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CONTENTS. — 5» 106. 

KOTES :-Xew Ye«*i JHj. a i>. 1770» 1— The Honac of Stanlej 

ud th« L^pnd of tbc Bvgle and CMld, 2— Tbc Wlso Woman 

ol Wiftj. *— 'OiTKOf: "Oriacni"— Autolychna, 5— Ch»rl« 

~ " Snppretcd Prince"— A NottinitbwiBihiw 

Htm T«r^ E?e Ctiatom— CromwcJrJi W&itniieii'* ilkdni, Q 

of Amanm« 

1 of dt, PiAl'a— Earope&Q iRnonoce 
SBuad la rog»— Th« TtOa '* Jt«verend," 7, 

QimiBI :— Tb« MetTicftl PmIioc^ 7— An Old Plctii7e--Arobt- 
iKtaiml IiMUtat* of Sootl&Qd— " Aoth tive llo»blt«i«"— 
Briilol QM^liednJ Llbruy^" ' AUorDey,' oca who In piH," 
At.-& Lalfta of OUerton— Barns -Biibop Pococko's Visit to 
looa. 8- "The Pteicflt 8Ule of LootJon "— Beresby— Mr*. 
uUtU T»ot-" Brood Church "—London Britlge— FlckHa 
ADd BerD«y FsmlUe*— ^ E. UArvcy^HvTftiaic-An Old 
Csrol— " A ToochttoDe for Gold an^l SilTer Wftre*," *c.— At- 
plnvsll— ThomM Clvlu, t>— "Sorlom : a Pity by the E. of 
B./ ^c. 10. 

MBFLIEflt-PbllolQ^al, 10 -Robert Pii«glove. 11 -The 
Sqetily of FVieDd»— Sweaiins on the Moron at Hlghgabe— 
" ' 12-Dr. Johnson and the Ford and Hidk- 

IS— Poet* the Mulen of Langnae»— AnbeUi 
14— *' Caipet knijht "— ** The Bcottlsb Honie of 
*» Syetero of Oonsanguliiiiy- " Braagle"— 
Ra&d«. Ifi— Ckldea-Sir Uobert Ker Porter— "The 
BMory of Uviog Men," &-r.— Archdeaeoni' Seale- Episcopal 
A^ttnitm at ConilrtaatJoo — AnoleiJt Irltb Croiaet, 10— 
fHilke C^k of Tothatn. Ksmx- Claude Amyand— Le N«v«'» 
-flMd*'— fleraldlc-'Ha»>. 17-" Teetotal"- WiHUm. third 
Zm of Pembroke, of the tierbert FkniUy, IS. 

Vote oo Booka, ^, 

NEW YEARS DAY, A.D. \77ii. 
On New Year's Day, a hundred years ago, Eng- 
1 ' ' -sed or elated (according to politicid 

cct of atlkirs in Amerie:i. London 

V u . ,»'t lu opinion on the question of "the 
PrMv^n l.ih " and the mother-country; and was 
.1- in v\<:iive hut ineffectual agitation to save the 
unn-V*rother9 Perremi from being handed for 
r. 1 , rv While George III. wna donning his 

ired suit, hia three eldest sons were 

. on their tiny dress aworda, and the 

<,nit en and two of her daughters were in the hands 

of tljfrir tire- wouien— all in preparation for hearing 

the ''Ode for the New Year" in the Couucu 

V "liuLnber at St. James's. 

This ciuloni of singing an ode hy the Laurente 

WM lime-honoured, and ceremoniously observed 

1st of Jiinuaiy and on luich recurring 

I dfiy ; " ode!iV\*^'>id Gibboti, with bis 

: .1 n^ !r. sense, "which .«;till ndom of 

y'A of our British kings," These 

m very *'^ tolerable, iind not to 

^ to a music wliich often cor- 

y with the words. On New 

>\'hitebead was the Laurente. 

i. r in 1757, and was followed 

n :iip otJi*:e by Thomas Warton in 1785. The 

'-jiji[io-*er of the muaic was Dr, Boyce, a true artist, 

who »tood, and sUmda, his ground well in the 

estimation of competent judges. Whitehead was 
the son of a Cambridge baker ; after being afij 
Winchesters he entered at Gumbridgej througl 
the benevolence of another baker of that town, one^ 
Thomas Pyke, who had founded a scholarship ox 
two at Clare Hnll. Whitehead was admitted as %.] 
Bizaff his claim being recognised a^ the ot^han aomj 
of a man who was of the same trade as the founds 
of the scholarships. What 'WTiitehead wrote beforftl 
and after the first day in 1776, when he and Bojce 
stood together in the Council Chamber, may be 
read elsewhere. Nearly all is now wrapt in an 
oblirion which would have delighted the Laureate's 
enemies ; but not all desent'es to be so forgotten. 
Whitehead, indeed, was savagely snubbed by 
Johnson, but he enjoyed the approbation of Gray ; 
Campbell thought the Ilys,-4U8 of ^V^litebead's 
Vreum exhibited finer feeling than the Ion of 
Euripides ; and Coleridge held his Oiargt to the 
PmU (which stirred Churchill's bullying Muse) at!! 
the most interesting of his works. Whitehead has 
been called, in some things, a feeble imitator of 
Pope ; it would be more correct to say that he 
was, at times, a splendid imitator of Young. 

At the aide of the Cambridge baker** eon, in full 
cijurt dress, stood Dr. Boyce, the son of a Londoa< 
cabinet-maker. Boyce was now organist and com-j 
poser in the Chapel Royal Only those who nv%\ 
ijnterested in the history of music know, or perhai)! 
would care to know, how great and various are the 
claims which Dr. Boyce has upon the gratitude of 
at least those whose souls lu-e "moved with con- 
cord of sweet sounds," It will save a world oi\ 
space if we bricHy say of these two humbly boraj 
men, poet ami iimsician, that they were thorougki 
gtnlhmfn^—thc word embraces every fine quality' 
and stands for all. 

Now, there was much curiosity afloat as to the^ 
uttemncea of the Poet Laureate at this critic 
juncture. In the Birthday Ode (June, 1775J hoj 
had been hani put to it for subject for decent 
rejoicing. Walpole (in August) met him at Nune-' 
hrtm (Whitehead was, for yeare, a domesticated 
friend in the Jersey family), and Horace wrote to 
Lady Ossory, *' There was Mr. Whitehead, the 
Laureate, too, who I dmibt will be a little pu/zled 
if he have no better victory than the last against 
Cii'sar'a next birthday. There was a little too 
much of the i^erttre, fuverilms iriumphoA, for a 
complimentary ode, in the last action." But, since" 
the hirthday,'worse incidents hrid occurred than 
the fcurrender of Ticonderogii nnd Crown Point. 
The insurrection had become genend, as the King's 
speech intimated ; public opinion in England in a 
great degree sj-mpathized with the insurgents ; but 
the drop of comfort in the goblet of sorrow waa 
that i^tucbec bad been gallantly saved from the 
attempt to surprise it by Montgomery and Arnold. 
The Laureate made the best of a very bud bua,\,w<i9A. 
He ftnd Boyce separtiled aa \\v6 ^va?, ^mx^ ^w«Jt 


[5«* S. V. Jak. 1, 76. 

entered the Conncil Chamber. They arrived so 
early that veiy few of the nobility who had been 
invited were present. The late comers were shut 
out, and the following was the ode, sung to Boyce's 
music, at St James's, a hundred years ago : — 
*' Od the white rocks which guard her coast, 
ObeerTant of the parting day, 
>\liose orb was half in oceao lost, 
Beclin'd Britannia lay ; 
While o'er the wat'ry waste 
A pensire look the cast, 
And scarce coald check the rising sigh, 
And scarce could stop the tear which trembled in her eye. 

' Sheathe, sheathe the sword which thirsts for blood/ 

She cried, ' deceived, niistaken men ; 
Nor let your parent o'er the flood 
Send forth her yoice in vain. 
Alas ! no tyrant she ! 
She courts you to be free ; 
SubmiesiTe, hear her first command, 
Nor force unwilling yengeance from a parent's hand.' 

Hear her, ye wise, to duty true, 

And teach the rest to feel. 
Nor let the madness of a few 

Distress the public weal. 
So shall the openmg year assume 
—Time's fairest child— a happier bloom ; 
The light-wing'd hours shall lightly more. 

The sun with added lustre shine ;— 
' To err is human,'— let us prove 

* Forgiveness is divine.' " 

When the King and his family appeared in 
public, after the performance of this rather lachiy- 
mose ode, they were received with loyal cheers. 
New Year's Day was then in the first half of the 
London season, which begnn in November and 
ended on the King's birthday in June. As 
George III. and his Queen passed much of that 
time in London, there was much ffidety always 
afloat at Court or in the mansions of the nobility 
and gentry, where " winter in London *' was a long 
and joyous one. The tradesmen of the capitd 
profited greatly. What money there was circulated 
rapidly, and by that rapid circulation one pound 
did the office of many pounds. But all this did 
not affect the freedom of expression as to politics 
generally, and the policy of the Government 
towards America in particular. Nothing can 
better show the existence of such freedom tlmn the 
publication of a counter ode in the Morning 
ChronidCf two or three days after Whitehead's 
ode, on Britannia with grief in her heart and a tear 
in her eye, had been sung at St. James's. It was 
as follows : — 

*' On the green banks which guard her strand, 

Regardful of the rising day. 
Whose radiant orb illumed her land, 

America reclining lay. 
Far o'er the boist'rous main 
Her aching eyeballs strain, 
Tet she disdain'd to heave a single sig^, 
Or drop a single tear from her eniag^ eye. 
' Jn vain,' she cried, * the sword ye wield, 

Te poor, dflceiVd, mistaken men; 

Old Freedom's sons disdain to yield. 
Though they have sued in vain. 
In truth no rebels we. 
Who live but to be free ; 
Who ne'er denied your mild command. 
But scom'd to sink beneath your wrathful hand. 
' Learn to be wise, and learn to know 

What all the world must own— 
Your blessings from our blessing flow. 
While commerce guards the throne. 
Learn this, and let each future year 
More radiant than the rest appear; 
Let Peace and Plenty smile again. 

And let fair Freedom shine : 
Thine was the fault, Britannia, then 
Be reparation thine ! ' " 

In the following July the Declaration of Inde- 
pendence came Hke thundering echoes of this 
counter ode. In 1783 "Britannia" recognized 
the Independence as a fact, and she made graceful 
reparation, as recommended in the above lines of 
177C, in the last of the simply eloquent words 
addressed by the King in reply to the words 
uttered by Mr. John Adams, when, in 1784, he 
was presented to George III. as the firat pleni- 
potentiary to our Court from the United States of 
America. Let them be kept in nicmorj' on both 
sides of the Atlantic : — " And, sir, as I was the 
last person that consented to the independence of 
the United States, so I shall be the last person to 
disturb or in any manner to infrinpje upon their 
sovereign independent rights ; and I hoi>e and 
trust that from blood, religion, manners, habits of 
intercourse, and almost every other consideration, 
the two nations will continue for ages in friendship 
and confidence with each other." Amen ! 



Students of history have come at last to recog- 
nize the supreme importance of consulting con- 
temporary documents, where such exist. Without 
this, history is reduced to the condition of an idle 
romance, or a vehicle for jxirty prejudice. I pro- 
pose to illustrate this principle by reference to a 
little episode of English history bearing upon a 
family illustrious in the annals of our peerage, and 
never more so than at the present time. 

The Chetham Society have recently issued a 
volume of Lancashire Inquisitions in the thirteenth 
and fourteei\^h centuries, from the Towneley and 
Dodsworth Collections. The information aifoided 
as to the state of society at that period is curious 
and valuable. The documents are of the highest 
authority, being returns to writs from the Crown 
on evidence, on oath, before juries or commissions, 
in respect to the property of feoftces of the Crown 
or Duchy of Lancaster. Several of them refer to 
the family of Lathom, and the Stanleys their suc- 
ceasora, at their first emergence into notice in the 
reign of Bichard II. 

5*S> Y.J A5. 1,76-1 




The rise fit the Stanley family Kxa a lej^endfiry 
Lbstory atUched to iL Thin is fully set forth in 
the lli^onfc/thc lioHJie of^^tnnhtfj hy John Sea- 
come, 1741, The ori^mil legend runs aa foHowa : 
Sir TbootA* de Lathom, early in the fourteenth 
centuT}', ir*Ikmg with his bdy, who was childless, 
in his puk, drew near to u desert ;ind wild situa- 
tion, where it wss commonly reported an eagle 
buiJt hsT nest, and, upon their near approach 
fbert-of. h^ani the erle^ of a young child, which 
was found by their aervants in the nest, being t\ 
nude infant dressed in rich swiuldliu;: clothes. 
' *,-.--;.,„ u(j male issue, looked upon this 
; 8ent from heaven. Tlx^y took 
riiti'ftion, had it carefuUy nursed, 
rhcirown name. The child be- 
, and at hia death left an only 
daughter iiiimed laabel, whom Sir John Stanley 
JDnrried^ and^ in memory of thifl event, took the 
eac|e and child for hi» cre.^t, as ^ince used by his 
noole Ruccessore the Earls of berby. 

The legend, a* modified by Seacome, commences 
with Sir Thoraai^ de Ljithoni, who lived in the 
reign of Edward III. ; that he and his lady being 
hjl^dy adviinced in years, without any issue bat 
008 d.i lid he being denirous of male 

i«ie, 1 ring thereof by his own lady, had 

m lore intn;/^!]*. with a young fjcntlewoman of his 
acqnaintance, who bore him a son, whereof he wjis 
g;rmtlT rejoit ed ; but the diftii ulty arose how to 
introcCoce this younjLj scion witliout inducing do- 
intf^^tlr ^nirp. After ieveral M;hemen and proposal^ 
ti >n the expedient of phicing the child, 

n • d^ in the vicinity of an eagle's nest, 

V H found by the servants, and received 

1 .y with kindne'^3 and affection. The 

<) it.iptized by the name of O.nkatell de 

L Tnot hers name being Mary O^kritell. 

TLt youth did not ultimately succeed to the family 
wtiite*, which descended to Iwibellu, La<iyde Stan- 
ley ; but he was fHirtioned off with certain manors 
at IrhLra and Umiston, near Mnnche^ter, and 
other lands in <Jhe;-bire. Sir Thomas, in memory 
of the intnt, U st.ited to have aiwumed for his 
crest an cajole up'ii winjj repirrlant, and that the 
Stanley?, de-^piwin-^ 0^k;tkdl and hin prctenylon?*, 
tnfk Mr...n ilwni i\\r ('uglc and child io tokcn of 

ver form be adopted, presents 
: ; »n it« face. The eagle bearinp a shield, 
''•'-<' I' li! J or, on a chief indented az. three be- 
' II . m found on a weal of the father of the Sir 
^ ' Mils Io whom the let^end attributes it. The 
i«'j;cnd iUiidf is ikS old oj? the time of King Alfred, 
to whom a simihr incident is ascribeil. 

8«M»me records that Sir John de Stanley, 
*«a«il *jn of 8ir Wra. de Stanley of Timperlev, 
tiihr, - •' , «7ih or 28th year of Kini^ Ed- 
^nl J }, nnd that ho distinguished him- 

•elf a; .... .M^ile of Poictiera, under the Blick 

Prince, in a.d, 1357. This was very remarkable, 
as, according to the chronolopy, he Wiis then three 
years old ! 

Ho further relates timt on Sir John's return 
from France he visited most of the Courts of 
Europe, where his superior skill in arms was 
generally applauded ; that on his arrival in Eng- 
land he conquered a haughty French champion 
in the jousts at Wine-heater, under the eyes of the 
Court, among whom was the heiress of Lathom, 
young, beautiful^ and rich, by which feat he won 
the fair lady and gained her inheritance. 

Ah Lady de Stanley^ eldest child wa? not born 
until thirty years :ifter this eitint, the atronj^ pro- 
bability is that ahe was not then in existence ; 
and the donghty victor himself could not have 
been more than six years old ! 

Now let U¥5 see what light is thrown on the sub- 
ject by the documents to which I have called 
attention. They prove «!emon»tratively that the 
story, in whieheTcr form it ia presented, is a 
fiction from beginning to end. The true naira- 
tive is as folio wb : — 

Sir Thoma.^ de Lathom, the father of Lady de 
Stanley, so far from being cbildles!*, or having only 
a danphter, had five children, two sons and three 
daughter?", all of whom attained maturity. His 
second son, Edward, died before his father, leaving 
a widow. Sir Thomaa died in March, 1382. Hia 
elder son, Thomas, succeeded, and inherited the 
entatCH, which he only enjoyed a year and a htilf, 
dying Nov. 3, 1383, leaving a posthumous dau;^'ht€r 
Elleno, bom three months after her frtther^s de- 
ceajte. At her death, issue in the male line having 
faileii, Isabella, the eldest daughter, who had mar- 
ried Sir John de Stanley, Bucceeded, in ordinary 
eoiir^e, to the property, wliich has descended to 
the Stanleys, Earls of Derby, to the present day. 

Lady de Stanley sur^'ived her husband a few 
months, dying on' Oct. 26, 1414. On March 12 
previously, she bad settled the estates on Henry 
de Halsale, Archdeacon of Chester, and Richard 
de Stanley^ Parson of Walton Church, in trust for 
her souj the second John de Stanley, then aj^^ed 
twenty-eight years. The Bi>eciiic manner in which 
the Inquiaitions deal with the property of Sir 
Thomsifl de Lathom precludes the idea of any sup- 
posed Oskatell inheriting or even existing. 

An Inquisition, 8 Kichard IL (March C, 1385), 
draws a lamentable picture of domeBtic life. Poor 
Sir Thonnaflj so far from being the " galactuomo " 
the legend represents, was himself the victim of 
his second wife's frailties. The document states 
that Johanna, the lady in question, had formed 
an adulterous connexion with Roger de Fazaker- 
legh, and, her husbnnd being in a feeble state of 
heidth, Khe had introduced the Raid Roger into 
the hall at Knowsley, ** in magnum dispectum 
dicti Thome tnarlti sui,** "et jacuit cum Rogero 
de FazJikerlegh adultero suo apud KiiG««s\fc^'vDt 


[Jtfc S, V. Jan, 1, 76. 

alta camera in lecto predicti Thome mariti sui et 
in a1ii8 locU secrete ct apertc nd volunUiteDi ipsius 
Jolianjie," &c It is further related that at her 
husband's decease she h:wl c^tried his corpse to 
the Priory of Burscoiigh, and there interred it 
without prjeat or religions rites, and umnediately 
there-^fter, being then pregnant, she had inter- 
married with the said Roger, her paramour. It 
does not appeiir that Lady de Stanley and her 
hasband at all interfered on poor Sir Thomases 
lielialf. It is more than probable that they were 
not married until after his deceitse. 

It apoears to me that the circuuiatanees here 
related indicate pretty clearly the origin of the 
crest of the eagle and child. The eagle already 
existed as the cognizance of the Lathom family, 
and passed with the estatew to the Stanleys. The 
illegitimate offspring of Johanna, above alluded 
tOj if a son, wonld prima facie have a claim to the 
inheritance, which the rei)ort in the Inquisition 
would set liaide. What, therefore, more natnral 
than the adoption of the device of the eagle of the 
Stanleys triumphing, or, jnetaphorically, picking 
out the eyes of the babe in the cradle ? 

The tnlditionary account of these circumatiinceSj 
garbled and modiEed as such stories usually are» 
crystallized into the myth of the illegitimflte babe 
Oftkatell This is strongly confirmed by the lan- 
guage of the legend itself, which goes on to say 
that " Sir 0»katell, being degraded and supplanted 
in the hopes and prospect of an immense fortune, 
was slighted and despised by hh tiathought-of 
rivals, who, either to distinguiah or aggrandize 
themselves, or in contempt and derision of their 
spurious brother, took upon them the eagle and 
child for their crest» in token of their conquest 
over him." 

It is to be feared that many a pretty legend, 
when tested by the dry light of documentarj' evi- 
dence, will, in a simiW manner, turn out " the 
baseless fabric of a vision,'* but " veritatis aimplex 
oratio est " J. A* PicTOS. 

Sandjrknowe, Wavertree. 


About eight or nine years ago there died, at 
Oakham, a woman named An»elia Woodcock, 
better known us the "' Wise Woman of Wing," 
from having previously lived in thatRatlandvilhige, 
which is clo^e to the Midland Railway, between 
Stamford and OakhaiiL She was scarcely middle 
aged when she died^ and she had' settled at Wing 
fifter an early marriage with a labouring man. 
I am told that she had no experience as an 
hospital nurse, and had not received any kind of 
education or training in medicine ; but she rapidly 
established a reputation for her power to treat and 
heal every variety of disease, including cancer. 
At the outset of her career she made a great point 

of gathering herbs from the fields and woods, and 
making them into medicines that were supposed 
to act as charms ; but, as soon as her reputation 
was firmly established, she had no leism^e to quit 
her house in search of herbs, and contented herself 
with drugs ordered from a chemist. It was in 
consequence of her neglecting to take exercise, and 
to the habits that her confined life produced, th&t 
her death waa attributable. 

Although she continued to live in her humble 
cottage at Wing, she wajb visited daily by persons 
who — a» I am told — " came in their own carriages"; 
and I am further inform&ijOn good authority, that 
medical men also came to consult her. Her 
patients were taken in regular turn, without dis- 
tinction of rank ; and they were so numeroni 
that, as she was unable to .see them all on the day 
that they came to her, many persons were obliged 
to take lodging:^! in the yillage or neighbourhood 
until the Wise Woman could see them. She dealt 
rapidly with her patients, and, after hearing a few 
words from them, told them that she perfectly 
understood their complaints, and could cure them. 
She had sufficient wisdom to avoid using iiowerful 
drags, and what her medicines lacked in quality 
was made up for in quantity. They were given 
to her patients not only in large bottles, but also 
in stone jars. A chemist who supplied her with a 
large portion of her drugs paid hi& first visit to her 
when he was just starting for himself in business, 
on the chance of getting an order from her, A^ 
soon as he obtained admittance to her room, she 
took him to be a patient, and, before he spoke to 
her, said, " I can see, young man, what is the 
matter with you." — "Can youf" he answered, 
thinking it best to humour her. — " Ye:*," she said ; 
** you Ve got an ulcemted liver." — " Bleaa me ! *' 
he cried, in feigned alarm, for he was in excellent 
health at the time ; ** I didn't know it was as bad 
as that."—" Yes," she said, '^ and it 'a an ulcerated 
liver of some standing. It 's lucky that you came 
to me, for I can cure you. You might have gone 
to a dozen doctors, and they wouldn't have been 
able to do you any go<3d.*' He deemed it best to 
play the ptirt of a patient, and, without speaking 
of the sjiecial object that had brought him into 
the presence of the Wise Woman, he paid her for 
a laig© bottle of medicine, and went away with it. 
It is needless to add that the pbyaic was thrown 
to the dogs. In the ensuing week he jmid her 
another visit, professed to have been greatly re- 
lieved, and went nwuy with another large bottle 
of Btutf, which he used as " the mixture as befbre." 
The next week he went again to her, announcing 
his perfect rccoverj', and tlie complete cure of his 
ulcerated liver. He then modestly introduced the 
topic that he waa a chemist, just storting in busi- 
ness, and tliat he could supply her with drugs at a 
very reasonable rate. The interview ended by her 
giving him an order for drugs } aud this vrn& followed 


S"9.T, J*».l,76.] 


Op by otUer», lud, for some years after, the Wise 
Woman of Wing wxw one of his best customers. 
He tell ft mf. that he usually sent ber a «irt-load of 
<h 'jceaaion&Uy^ a vAn-load at a time. 

niwn me several of the letters that she 
sent :> lum, and from these I select the two {o\- 
\owxngopdaa^ which I hftTe copied correctly, though 
not vilJiout difficulty, the Wise Wouiui'a writiDg 
being » peeoliar as her spelling ; — 
No. 1. 

•• Onkbam- 

'^SSrwiU yoo icndl Mrs. woodcock 1 galland of aava- 
Jitte 1 of red UiTftotUr 3 of niter 7 pound of jeJap and 7 
iripies iMlfatoae of ipanii just and I half pound of biter 
Impli fcalf •ioxit of June per beriei tiiid anne aeeda 6 bottles 
of qoaoiiie %■ niiaU possll of red salre 1 dosen of Hkins 
•ad 10k worth of coff piJli 2 bladders of s^^m 4 stone of 
tin»ct« m» earlj as coayenieu Araealia Woodcook," 
No- 2, 

"JoBuy 2 Dear fren eje liare tent you a small order 
ifjimtfiiiik wdl to exccp it 6 gxUandsof niter and a 
Jarf • bottle of dark mixture 1 |^allaud of savaletta 1 ipd- 
land of laTundcr 1 quart of oil of juncpcr and 6 pound 
of bU«k plaster the same of red and 'i pound of gebp 
5 '^" .« bottles of qmne." 

_ 'ired in the above orders are the Tarioua 
articje^, qninine^ wil-voktlle, aniseed, and Spanish 
JaiOB. Tm inpterious drug tKit appears in the 
cme order ks "iripJca," and in the other oa " hile- 
pka,' wws a tpecial favourite of the Wib© Woniati, 
who serer bad the slightest knowledge of the 
Uttliire of the medicine ! It ^^-as a recipe brought 
froni JrtrttaicA by an assistant of the chemist, and 
i* don was kept a profound secret* The 

>' I m had the greatest faith in it» and it 

r od in every order that she sent. Let 

.tit did her patients a power of good. 
I Iii»e tiie chemirt's word for it that there was 
not anything in it. or in the other thing«i that he 
rapplied to her, that could harm patients, and 
that they might (posssibly) benefit them, especially 
• ' * .n«alt£hd her with the firm conviction 
'■ aid cure them. Perhaps some corre- 

' ' ■ ^ " ' • -hboiirhood of Uppi ngham and 
< to give some further parti- 

^ ,\ Oman of Wing. 

CattiBEBT Bede. 

fhrut^^: " Gr.«cu8.**— Dr. Mommsen {Hist. 
\ L p. 13) has : — 

. ^e esaential unity of all the Italian as of all the 
icreek races mitst have dawned early und clearly on the 
of the two great nations themtitlveei, for we 
in the /^i- nan Jfingoa^e a very ancient word of 
J. Grtfius or Grutcwi, vrliich i§ applied 
tone) ! in like manner amongst the Gtttkt 

the an " *5on 'Oinroc, which is applied to 

*H<i/ <iU stocks known to the <J reeks 

'uifariii f to the lapygioo* or A'frT'jrmraj," 

This fiinguiar correspondence in tise and form, 
«tending even to identity of snfUx {-ko^ -cks), so 
tnggtstire of • oorrektion in idea, Ima not been 

followed up by the learned doctor, who suggests 
(p. 22) that 0/>toi (with Ofct\&c.) means " labourers'* 
(root as in opus^ &c,), leaving frrrpcuj nnderived. 
Let us try then to find something more satisfactory. 
Prof. CurtiuR {Gh. Ehjm,^ § 120) says it is impossible 
to separate F/iatico^ from root ytp (primitive oAn), 
"aged, old," found in yc^tai', ypala. The only 
meaning, then, which can attach to this word, us 
applied to a nation or tribe, is that of " the older 
settlers,'' or something simiJiir. We shall, there- 
fore, look in its correlative Opicm for the sense 
younger or UiUr settlers ; and thiu vre find in it if 
we connect it with oi/'t^ oTrcipo, «^t-, (J) Oj>jnni. 
This derivation accords well with a Gra*co-Italian 
migration from east to west, for the more eastern 
Greece would be colonized limt, and, when that 
was occupied, Liter bands of settlers ('Ottikoi) 
would have to go further west to Italy. It accords, 
too, with the fact that that part of the Italian race 
itself which settled loit, the Samnites (Momma., 
iJii, p. 34), is styled jxir tJcdUnft Osean or Opican. 
Nor can we find a difficulty in the change of mean- 
ing from "aged** to '* ancient " in tJracus. It is 
not an uncommon oae» and, perhaps, we may trace 
in it a disparagement of claims to antiquity by a 
rival kindred race, I do not know whether thifl 
conjecture hxis been anticipated ; it has not cer- 
tainly, aa I think, been discansed aa it deserves. 

J. P, P. 


M€t'*AitoAi'kov tc koX vras, 
Mt/t/jos: f»/s irartp* io'Bkhv cJs dvBptairov^ ckc- 


'Ep/Ktas; Horn,, Od., xix. v, 394-7. 

Why has Autolychus found so much favour from 
trantslators ? Pope (Fenton) says :— 
" Autolychui the bold, a mighty uaine 
For spotless truth and deeds of martial fame,'' 
Bo7.s!oli :^ 

"Clie fa d' accorto ingegno c lealtade 
n miglior cavalier di (jttelU etade." 
Even the trustworthy Voss states the perjury, but 
posses over the thieving : — 

" Der hoch ron den Menschen berlihmt war 
Durch Auirede mit Schwur.*' 
Van 's Qravenicteri : — 

" Die bij*i menschelijk geslachl 
Door sluwUeid was Termoard.** 

Cowper's is the fairest version %vhich I know, poor 
but honest : — 

"Wio far t'xcelled 
In furtive art€ and oatlwi all human kind." 

Clark cites the Scholiast, Julian and Plato to abow 
that Homer's words are to be t^-iken in their natural 
sense, and were intended to he complimentary. 
Emesti jvdds : '* OpMo porro intellige j«ra«rfi arti- 
JkiOj i|Uod est, cum venim jiuramus, et tamea 
altenim fallimus iinc noxa.'* Damm {Ley, How., 
V, OpKOi) gives examples, but says upon this pas- 





<«t jcAcTrroo-i'ii;. As nojrrt niay be 
*' criuie ^* or *' luibility to punUhment," 
I liope EniC4ti raermt the latter. Tho text does 
Jiot limit the hwearin;^, and Daium'si limitation U* 
steallug, au<l keeping the goods by out-^n^eanng 
the Droftec'Lition, does not raise our opiniou of 
Autolychns. I Hhall be thankful for an elucidution. 
A modern in^itiince may be iidiuiaaible. I know a 
nwn who ciiK^ littlo for any wine and greatly dis- 
likes sherry, yet was utiked by a friend to go down 
with him to the Docks to advise on the purchase 
of some. Out of mere courtesy, when asked to 
taste it, he tips as little as eivLlity allow?, and 
•ays, with perfect truth, ** I have seldom tasted 
Bherry which I liked better." So he is reputed a 
good iudgo. H. B. C. 

U. U. Clttb. 


Prisce." — I am much obliged to CLARRT(iv. 484) 
for his kindness in ascertaining what the records of 
the Marine Society tetl as of the Charles Wilmot 
8en«8 who was received into that society in 
Murcbf 182i3, and on April 2 pbiced on board the 
Buckinghatiii^lure, East Indiamaa, If the st^itement 
of bis u^ in hh petition and in the register of 
the Bociety, which repreaents him aa bein^ seven- 
teen in 1825^ be correct, it is clear he is not the 
" SnppirefiEed Prince " who was bom in 1803, and 
was consequently not serenteen^ but twenty-two, in 

Serres, in his interesting holograph will, accuses 
liif wife of *' fnving birth to iliegitiuiate children, 
and unnaturally deserting them to be supported 
liT others.'' His biographer states distinctly that 
sae had two iUe^'itimsite cliildren, and in the Me- 
moir (p. 33) says : ** While thus confined during a 
period of nearly two years, information reached 
him of the birth of another illegitimate child of 
his wife ** ; and the Charles Wilmot Serree, who 
was placed by the ^Marine Society on board the 
Euckingh.imshire, m;iy po>«ibly be this child, and 
the second of the two of Mra. Kyves's " royal and 
revered mother." A friendly oomespondent has sug- 
gested the advisability of a search in the books of 
tAe BucktDghamshire. As I am not able to make 
this search myself, I mention it in hopes of at- 
tracting the attention of another Clarry, who 
knows where tho.^e books are, and who may be 
able and willing to make the search. 

Looking to the identity of Chnstian name, 
Charles, I should have been inclined to believe 
that the age was understated in the petition with 
the view to getting admission into the dociety 
within the limited age ; but it is scarcely possible 
that the committee tould huve passed a young 
man of twenty-two Jts a boy of seventeen, a fact 
which strengthens the probability that we have 
here a second Dromio. 

It is true that in a US. autobiography of the 

*^ Suppressed Prince," which is now before me, he 
passes over the first thirty odd years of his life with- 
out any mention as to how or where they were 
passed. But then we know that on the death of 
Mrs, Serres, in 1834, a son came forward, and en- 
deavoured, b}' an application to the magistrate at 
Union Hail, to obtain possession of her effects and 
papers ; and from the report of the proceedinjjs in 
the Timts of Nov, 29, 1834, we lenm thnt he 
claimed to be the only child of his mother, deny- 
ing that she had ever had any daughter. But then, 
oddly enough, this son, of whom Mr. Murray, the 
magistrate, said he knew nothing to his credit, ad- 
mitted be had been to the Cape of Good Hope, 
but had returned, being unable to obtain employ- 
ment. Will the records of the Buckinghamshire 
clear up this mysterv i Willi ah J. TaoMS. 
40, St. George * SqMire, 8.W. 

A NoTTiKoHAMseiRB Ne\\' Year^s Ev^r Ccr- 
TOM.— The following custom is still observed, to a 
limited extent^ in Nottingham. One of the heads 
of the family^ previous to locking the street door 
for the last time in the year, carefully deposits a 
gold coin in close proximity to the door, where it 
is allowed to remain until the new year has been 
ushered in by the ringing of the church belle, when 
the gold is taken indoors, Thie is bidieved to en- 
sure the supply of money for the year's necessaries. 
J. PorrER Briscoe. 

Nottingham Library. 

Cromwell's WAT£R3iKN*a Badges. — I ai^ 
curious to know whether any of the watermen's 
badges, described in the subjoined order of the 
Protector's Council, are still in existence. Never- 
theless I fear that^ they must have been all melted 
down at the Restoration. It is very probable that 
the celebr:ited Thomas Simon made the design and 
die for the badges. The arras, &c., were similar 
to those on. Oliver's Great Seal (made b}' Simon V 
viz, :— A square gjimished shield bearing quarterly 
of four— 1st and 4th, the crois of St. George ; 2na^ 
the saltire of St. Andrew : 3rd, the harp of Ire- 
land ; over all, on an inescutcheon, a Hon rampant, 
the piiteraal arms of Cromwell. The shield is sur- 
mounted with the royal helmet, ensigned with the 
royal crown, sapporting the crest of England, a 
lion statant-guariiant, imperially crowned. Sup- 
porters :— Dexter, a UoB guardant crowned ;. 
sinister, a dragon. 

The following is the order from the Council 
Entry Book, No. 106, p. 139, in the Public Reoord 

*' Wednetdav, 9th September. 1657.— Ordered that the 
Communon** for the A.din'' and ^arj doe forth «r*^ Causa 
Badges lo be msde for hia Highne«» Watcrmca, accord* 
tng to y* drsa^t noir agreed on in tlie Ccuaseli, beinj; 
the Annei of the Com'on Wealth with hts Iliglineas 
EecatebeoQ of t>retonc«, the Crett on a Crowae, a Ljon 
punni CrowneU, the Supporters, a Lyon Crowned, a&d 





m I>T«n«k^ with ihA Leiton O P ftt the upper p't [p«H] of 

Tim hidgia, 58 in number, cost 34TZ. Sx. 5tf. ; 
and tile Mowing (from the Money Wfurant Book 
of Um Conocilt No. 1^27) b the warrant autbo- 
rixinif tb<» pirment of tbi» sum to Edward Back- 
well, goldjrmith : — 

" In ponuance of an order beareing date bercirit}!, 
Th«ie&r« lo will and reauire yoa^ out of atich mnnjei nb 
I fnCo JfKtr biiDuA on »ccotnpt of the CoutimIIs 
to «ti«fie and pay to Edward BackvrcU of 
G()!ii^rtiitli. ^t^.. sora'e of three hundred forty 
1 fiTe petie«, hettig in full 
L Bridges for bii HighneiA^idt'i tv ii.ii «j»id Edward Backwell in pur- 
of two teTerwtl orders of j* Counsel!. Hereof 
not to ffcUe. and for bo* doinj; thi« Bhnlbe your 
It Warmnt. OlTtn at Whitehall this ]Ninth dajr 

'^•I'Titd) He. Uwrrr-- ^^-^ -'^nt, 

iTe, Phi* Skipfton. 
1 i.i'lc, Char. Wolaley, < -114;. 

T^ GuttJter Front E5^^ 
fSmltf. for y Conncclla Contingenoyeu/* 

Henry W, Henfrey. 

TwK Oattis of St. Paul's. — Posterity may be 
-^ad t the State entrance j^ntea of St. 

PlulV >l^ and about 12-5 feet of iron mU- 

iaCi a» now utfered *' for a lamp buqi of JTiO^.," 
'^MiTeriwI to r!\n« at our yanl." by >[«>»»srs. 
Davic* of Tanxhall, iron and metal inereh;int?, 
Tbe*t> f!at<*?. with the railing, were erected nb>out 
the vi '"' ' I rly the la«t specimen of 

^trnit AH the Engliah »ove- 

i4i^ ^i>M« .-. .ii II -who have come to 

SLPkl&l'e during ir ive passed through 

lluee pitr» Pu^r. i»irpni»ed to learn 

the gatM en refiiBed even at 

mode«r ^ ^ e. A. J. M. 


IMiblisbed in England about sixty yeiirs ago 
ndod iSalem. Mniisnchusetta, with Salem, 
T ' ', i| it as a city sitniite on 

Ah I'l 'Ware, opposite to Phila- 

lypbiit ' 1 u .^u.ji..u.e 13 excuaable when coiu- 
psMd with thut of a graduate of an American 
eolW^, who, on beinff atked in Europe how the 
Fttsident of the I'nited States was elected, 
Auwered that the governors of the dift'erent states 
nui together every four yeorti and elected the 
id«nt. M. E. 





-J ri vpry intereiating 
I ill's works» of 
ving their ahip 
finj; ft calm for a few hours' visit to a amall un- 
ited rockv iiland lying a little way out of 
irae. Shortly after landing a fog came on, 
irrdifced them to tftke rather hastily to their 
after rowing a little way, the fog thick- 
^di tbkt tbcy fouiid all dt once, to thek 

peat disroay, tlwit thoy liad lost sight both *■>( 
island nnd ship. They continued in this rather 
alarming predicament, floating about and not drir- 
ing to use their oars, for many hnarB, until at last, on 
the fog Tiri^vno/^fni^iv lifinr f hey fouud t^l'1l"-^•^ '•■? 
but a sh ir ship. Ti 

part of til _, whorcmair ! 

ship had been contra titly tirinjtc signal guns, not onn 
of which had been heard by tho^e in the boat. I 
I>erfectly well remember reiuliriK the account many 
years a|^o in one of Biwil Hall's works, but cannot 
recollect in which. This reference may, perhaps, 
be of interest to some just at this time, 

R. Hill Sandts. 

Thk Title ** Retf-renp."— The following is &oni^ 
Prof. Willis's (\i7iifrhiry CotJudral^ " Qui ope et 
nuxilio Rcv^ patris T. Anindell navem btius eocle- 
»iit' . . . renovnvit " (tUjit. Aug, Sac., p. 143)» The 
date is A.D, 13&t>- 141 1. Another example 1 copied 
from Preston Chmch (" N. & Q.." 5"^ S. iv. 4110), 
of the date a.d. 145^. W, K HoBSOir. 


[W« most request correspondents deti ring information 
on family mntterti of only private interest, to atHx their 
names and addrep^ca to thoir queries^ in order that the 
answers may be addre&sed to tlem direct. ] 

The 3rETRicAL Psalms,— Among the partial 
versions noted by Mr. Holland in the FadmUU of 
Briinin, 1843, 1 do not tind this :— 

•'One and fortie Divin? Odes, Englished, set to King 
David's Princely Harpe hy 8, P. L. London : Printed 
by M.Lt\. 1627." 

Another title :— 

"An Allay, or Brohanan his Parapbraaea on the 
twentie Ptalmes of Dnrid, translated. Lond. : R. Y. 
for Richard Moore, 1627." 

The latter applies to the earlier part of the 
'"Divine Odes," showing it to be one work. 

My question, therefore, is. Who waa this 
S, P» li, ? It may be premised that two Christian 
numes were not common at the period, conse- 
quently these initials are more likeJy to be indi- 
cative of the authors surname, and, seekinfr to 
fix them upon a known name of the day, I find 
they will very well fit the name of Sempill. Now, 
considering that it was fashionable at the time for 
royalty and nobility (King Jame'^, Lords StirUnL% 
Bacon, &c., for examples) to try their handti at 
David*8 harp, 1 venture to suggest that the initials 
will suit Sir James Sempill 

There is certainly not much in the known work« 
of Sir Jame« that would lead us to this conclusion. 
fle was, however, in the habit of abbreviating his 
name, as shown in his Sticriled^e S't^raily IlandJtd, 
by I. S. L., and his Ficktovtk for the Pope, b^ 
S, L S. 

It may U fuTihet uaj&utAOTkfia. xX^iA. ^vt ^myv^ 




the godson of King James— his fellow-pupil 
under Buchanan — and one of the Court set ; xind 
from the following extract it may be inferred how 
ready be would be to follow the king and tutor's 
example in imilatin^ the Psalms :— 

*' Ye», behold." iajs he, " what int«re»t I hftro alto in 
our SKcre d Datid : eren devoted to his Service, by my 
pi^rentSj before I wka ; thereafter named in, nnd after his 
MajestieA owne name, before himaelfe could know it ; yet 
after knowledge, confimied, nnd in lii« H. Court, almost 
ever eince, both nursed and schooled. And ao U our 
David the king of my birth ; the maater of my Berrico ; 
the father of my name ; framer of my nature ; and the 
Gamaliel of my education ; at ivho«e feet (no. at whoiie 
elbow, and from whoao mouth) I oonfesse I liaTe nuckt 
the beit of whateoerer may ho thought good in me/'* 

There is certainly one leetle point I had not 
obiten'ed before framing my query, and that is that 
Sir Jamea Seiopill died in 1626. The book Jimy, 
however, haTe been ix)sthuiuouB- At all events, 
the q»e?ition of authorship ia of interest f and I 
shall be glad to hear if any eorreapondent can 
throw light upon it. J. O, 

Ax Old Picture.-^I ahull be c;hd to receive 
information on the following. I have a rpiaint 
old picture by Cerquozzi (Michel Anrjelo); the 
old man is giving the boys a taste out of hia large 
mustard pot, which I did not nnderBtand until I 
met with an old Dutch print with these linea : — 
"Eloigne toy d'icj; paas^nt Melancholiquo 
Cet imti^e n'a point I'Art de pblre a tes yeux, 
Tu gemis, tu t« plains, tout y paroLst Joyeux 
£t jiuques aux Enfani^ chacua t'y fait la nique. 
Cebon hamme sur ious riant de ton Enuuy, 
Te declare la guerre^ en broyant ia moutarde, 
Et notis ohWiffi toui pnr ion bameur K*illardc, 
A banuir le Chagi-in, et rirc comme luy." 

TrioMAR Warkkr. 


This Society issued to its members a series of 
djuwings, entitled " III natrat ions of Scottish 
Builflin^'g," during the Sessions from 1861-62 to 
187i)-71 inclusive. Can any of your correspondents 
inform me if any such were issued for the Sessions 
imb-m, 1866 67, and 1867-68 T If ao, what 
buQdingd did they represent ? 

Thomas George Stevknsojt. 

**KrTH THE MoABiTESS."— 1 have the proof 
copy of this— *^ Ruth the MoahUm, a Poem, in 
seven Rc^nes, with notes. Not published." Neither 
author^ place, printer, nor dale j but, as Heber's 
PalfJftine is alluded to, it must be subsequent to 
1S12. It is covered with MS. corrections ; and, 
05 I have never met with the poem in its corrected 
or any state, I desire to know if it passed the press 
and the author's name. J. O. 

8m Satriledffe Saerpity Handled, Itfl^, 

Bristol Cathedral Lirraky. — I read some- 
where lately that, in the Bristol riots of 1813^ the 
library of the cathedral was destroyed by the 
rioters. Is there a catalogue extant of the library 
as it existed previous to the riots, or did it iJerish 
together with the books and MSS. I 

J. Macray. 

** ' Attorney '=onc who is put in the place or 
takes the turn of another. An old writer speaks 
of Jesus as our oidj iittomey between God and 
man." — I have a note to the above effect in my 
KaUahym. Can any of your readers say who tb& 
" old writer " referred to was I 

Etc ET UniquE. 

Saml'kl Leigh ofOllerton. — I shall bemudi 
obliged to any of your Cheshire correspondents fo» 
information abont him. He was second son of 
Peter Leigh of High Leigh, ivho died in 1658. He 
was married at Rostherne to Sarah Yarwood of 
Ollerton, near Knutyford, in 1073, and died ia 
1690, By his will, which is at Cheater, he leaves 
liXV, for a school or some other charitable objeot 
at Ollerton ; hut no mention is made of wife or 
children. I should be glad to know if his wife- 
survived him, and if he Imd children ; if so, what 
their naines were. Samuel Leigh was, I imagine, 
a Presbyterian, Mathew Goch. 

BcRN's. — Why does Mr. Carlyle, in bis Rcroc* 
and Hero-Worshipf phice Burns amongst the " Men 
of Letters " instead of amongst the " Poets " 1 Hi» 
two representative poeta are Dante and Shak- 
speare. But^ although Burns was Jar below these 
giants in poetical power, he was as true a pott as 
either of them. I cannot understand why BalSto 
should be a " hero, as poet/' and Burns only a 
*'■ hero, as man of letters." 


Bishop Pococke's Visit to Iona. — Pennant^ 
in his account of lona (vol iii. p. 206), mentions, at 
a little distance from the ruins of the monastery,, 
"a square containing a cairn and surrounded by a 
stone dyke," and adds : — 

" This !■ called a huriiil place : it must have been in 
very early tiniei.cotemporftry with other cairns, perhaps 
in the day a of Druidifm, for Bl^^hup Pocock Tuenttons that 
he had seen two utones, seven feet high, with a third laid 
acrosa on their tops, an o^fident cromiek ; he alao addl, 
thtit the Irish name of the inland was Miflli Dnini&h.'* 

By Bishop Poncock, Pennant evidently mwins tKe 
celebrated Eastern traveller, Dr. Richard Pocockci 
who was made Bishop of Ossmy in 1756, and 
translated to Meath in 1765, He is said to have 
travelled in Scotland ; aud a description of a rock, 
on the west aide of the harbour of Dunbar, re- 
semblme the Giants' Causeway, was published in 
the Fhilomiihiral Transactiona, vol. Iii. art. 17. 

As Bishop Pococke died in September, 1765, 
and Pennant did not visit looa tiU 1772, it ia 



vious tliftt Ptimant imint liave derived his infor- 

tion &wn some pablislied account of Bishop 

i Scotland, but I have been quite 

ver from what aource Pennant 

:. 1 I - ndy ob%ed if any of your 
rtuder^ u*alti jt^ier me to the work of Bishop 
Poeoeke from which the quotation is nuule. 

William F. Sk^ne. 

"Tits Prksbxt Statb op LoKiwjr."— I Intely 
met with n kTiiiiU Toltinie, in tm imperfect state, 
pp. 4 to 47ii, beftded oa above, but witbout title- 
page, &c The book appears to have heen pub- 
liBb«d in the year after the estubliahuient of the 
Pmm»f i*<>*f, vl7^» in H3S1. It contains much 
conoos infomiation About London, and has en- 
gmrings of public buildings, the city gates, the 
urns III the London comfMintes, &c. The book is 
prohoUy well known. I would bo glad to know 
the Dame of the author, and when and where pub- 
lithed. W. H. Patterson. 

Be&ssbt. — ^A cttj-ious coincidence with regard 

fr ' - > or family ha^t lately come under my 

r ' re is now living tit feirnsley, co. York, 

• L Reresby, a labnonrer, born July !), 

;ia only sou of Leonnrd Reresby. The 

Tnufted as an inmate of theFoimd- 

' 748, and wa8 bnptized Oct. t) of 

ud waa named Leonard Rereaby 

White. His number in the Hospital 

d in 1760 he was sent to Ackworth, 

vxk Vc«k. The hi3t baronet but one, Sir William 

Bcroby of Thriberfr, i« stated to have died a 

UpMer in the Fleet Prison. Bis brother, the last 

hifiOQ^i, Sir Leonard Eere^by, died Aujfust 11, 13 stated in the Gcnt^ Mag, to have left 

to the Foundling Ho>ipitaI. I shall be 

* ^v whether Mr. White had any reason 

Ije child Leonard Rereaby, beyond the 

u.^-. .1..,^ 4*ie baronet of the sanie name bad two 

moatJM previously left 4iK)0t. to the HoispituL 

Alfred Scott Gatty. 

Ecclufield \'icATmg«, Sheffield. 

Mrs. Olivia Trast.— Can any one give me 

Lafbnn*tion rwpectinjr Mrs. Olivia Trant, who, 

^ - ' - nry of the Duke of Orleans in 

^^yed by the Duke of Ormond in 

r - ^-^ts of the first Pretender? 

jW I particulars of the escape of 

Hit . ..„..-. .:,.....: from Innspmck in the year 

1710 i A K. 



* "'—When was this tenu first 

lebnited article on ** Church 
Partici [ iviitu. iv r- , No. 2(K), Oct., 1853} contains 
th^ <acU«»t iDiention known to W. H. 0. 

LQiirt>o^ Btiiixoe.— To what parish does London 
Bridge belong, and where are the baptisuiaJ^ mar- 

riage, and burial re^isterf? of those persons who 
used to live on the bridj^^e itself now deposited 1 

Queen'a College, Oxford, 

FicKLiK ATfD Bbrkev FAMILIES.— Can you 
give me any particulara relative to the Ficklin 
family that would assist lue to complete a pedisrreo 
of that family ? What are their arras and crest ? 
I nm idfio desirous of discovering where any por- 
traits of the Berney family (baronets of Norfolk) 
may be located, Have any portraits of its mem- 
bers ever been engraved ? Beta- 
Sir Etjar Harvf.t.— la there any portrait ex- 
tant of C.ipt^in (afterwards Admind Sir Eliab) 
Harvey, commander of the famous Temoraire in 
Nelson's time, and subBecjuently M.P. for Maldon 
and Eaaex \ Is there any pubiiahed account of his 
life i F, R. H. 

Heraldic. — According to Thomaa's edition of 
DuRdale'3 Antiqnitin of IVarwichkire^ there was 
a shield in Coleshill diurch displaying these arms : 
Quarterly 1 and 4, or, a tower azure: 3 and 4^ 
bnrry nebuk'e of six or, and aable, for Blount. To 
what family did the former coat belong I It like- 
wise appeared in a quartered shield of the Mount- 
fort family in Middleton Church, in Warwick- 
shire ; and is still to be »een, in conjunction with 
the arms of Blount, upon a quartered shield of the 
Willoughby family in Wollaton Church, in Not- 
tingharaahire. Burke's General Armoury states 
that theBlounts of Maple-Burhani, in Oxfordshire, 
quarter, auionpst others, the nrma of the Castile 
n*mily. Are they identical with the coat in quea* 
tion 1 A. E. L. L. 

An Old Carol.— I shall be much obliged if any 
one Will fin in the following old carol up to the 
twelfth day: — 

" The first day of Chrifltmns my trae lore tent to me 
A partridfre in k pear-tree. 
The second dav of €hriitinii.A my true love B«Dt to ma 

Two turtle doTCH and a jmrtridge, kc. 
The third dsj of CbriRtmos my true love tent to mo 
Three French hcni, two turtle doves," kc. 

H. H, 

"A Touchstone for Gold and Silver 
Wares ; or, a Manual for Goldsmiths.*' By 
W. B., of London, Goldsmith. London, 1077. — I 
have lately obtained this curious little work. Who 
was W. B. i Was he a liveryman of the Gold- 
smiths' CompaDy l Willl^m J. Grbkn. 

AsriNWALL. — From whom did 
Central America take its name ? 


town iQ 

Thomas Clarke.— TMio were the parents of 
Thomas Clarke ^ who lived at High Wj'combe, 
Bucks, for many years, and died thew, \tv\^^^^ 
iiged ninety -one \ He 'wi\a iViaa \ioi^ m « ^^nj^. 



1738. He was three tiuies married ; lat (in 1766), 
to ElixabcLli Fowler ; 2ndly, to ^lartha ShrimptoD ; 
and 3rdly, to Betty Williums. All these raiurrbi^cs 
took place in High Wvcombe. He was mIso 
several times Mayor of High Wycombe, and in 
the early pi rt of his life wua an adjutant ia the 
rBucks MjJitijk I do not find any entry of hia 
^ivptism in the regifiters at Wycombe^ but I thiDk 
he wns bom in Buckinghamahire or Berkshire. 
Wm. a. Clarke. 
The Grove, Chippenham, Wilts. 

" Sodom : a Plav, by the E. of R,," was printed 
in London, in 16S4, with the false impress 
" Antwerp." Heber possessed a copy, which did 
not go to the hammer with the rest of his collec- 
tion, but was reserved, and probably destroyed by 
his exGcutorrt, Can any of your correspondents 
give me furtber information concerning tliis 
notorious production, or, better still, atlbrd me the 
inapcction of n copy ? Further, any iufornrntion 
concerning Fishboume^ the HUpposed author, will 
be acceptable. Eeferences to wcU-hiomt. bio- 
bibliographical works are, of course, superfluous. 


(5»»» S. iv. 489.) 
In asking *' whether Danish, Swedish, and Nor- 
wegian are Teutonic or Scandinavian langiuipes,'* 
^your correspondent tmiclies upon an important 
question, concerning which the most contradictory 
nns^vers might easily be given by such jis are 
unaware of the trchnicttl mmning of the words 
employed. The whole puzzle (a pu/zle which 
some, to my knowledj^e, are almost unable to 
.4K>lTe) consists in the highly technicil and artificial 
^meaning in which the term "Teutonic" is cm- 
ployed in grouping languages, whilst at the same 
time it 1ul% in ordimiry speech, a much sinipler 
meaning. Ordinarily ''Teutonic'' is almost a 
convertible term with '' German " ; but, in the 
science of lanpua^e, it has a very ditt'erent and 
purely technical meaning. In botany we speak of 
classes, sub-classes* orders, rjenera, hpecies, and 
varieties. In language the corresponding terms 
are families or classes, sub-claa&c*^, branches, 
groups, langtuiges, and dialects. Thus Danish 
belongs to ihe Indo*European family or chuis^ 
Europeim sub-clasM, Teutonic bmnch, Bciindi- 
navian group ; being in itself a language. The 
Bame is true for Norwegian, iSwedit^h, and the 
extremely important Icelandic, which should not 
have been omitted in the question. 

The common misUike is to confuse *' Teutonic " 
in the above sense with Cerman ; and, even fur- 
ther, German is confused with High German, Yet 
Teutonic is the name of a hmndif fligh German is 



the name of a Qroupt and German is the name 
languagt. No wonder that most contradic 
and confused ideas are current, when these 
terms are constantly being used as coDYertihle. 
It is just as if^ in botany, we wert? to make no 
distinction between Ro^a and Eoancffn, 

I hope it will thus he evident that, though 
Danish is said to belong to the Teutonic branS, 
it is not German. Moreover, the Scandinavi 
group is so far from being "Gerumn" (in t 
wider sense of High German) that it is much more 
closely. allied to the Low German )^roup. 

The right scheme of the languages of the ** Teu- 
tonic" bmnch has been given many times ; 
<r,f7., March's Amjlo-Saxon firamniar; M( 
Historical (Hitlin(« of Evgluk Acridaice ; PeiJe'l 
htfrodvcHon fo Latin ftnd irTcek Ehjmolo^; 
St.hleicber*.s Compmdiurn. ; the works of Max 
Wiiller, Whitney, &c. They are all agreed in 
principles, but they employ vuryinj^ t*^mis. Thiu^ 
in Tfu:^ Life fl"'^ Growlh of Latu^imge^ Profemot 
Whitney uses " family " a^ synonymoua with 
" class," but Dr. Morris us^fs " family " as synony- 
mous with '* brancli/' The former method is, I 
think, much more convenient. The scheme, as 
given by the above authors, is as follows :^ 

Ftunihf or cla^if. — Indo-Euroj^jm (sometimes 
called Indo-Germanlc, in order to midie confusion 
worse c« a founded). 

Suh-dax$cs.—l. Arj'an. 2. European. 

Bmjuhrji.' J. From I lie Aryan : I. Indian j %. 
Knmian or Imniari. II. From the European : 3. 
Greek; 4, Albanian; 5. Italian; 6. Keltic J 
7. Slavonic ; 8. Litbuiiuian ; 11. Teutonic. 

(t'roupff.^l omit the nubdivision? of the firat 
eight of the above brunches, and consider only the 
Teutonic. Of the Teutonic ^►rjmch the p^roupis, 
are: — 1. Low Gcrmiin ; 2. *Sc;indinanan ; 3w 
High German. 

i(r)i//t««^M.— Here the subdivisions are the fol- 
lowing i—t. From the Low German; 1. Mccso- 
Gothic or Gothic (dead) ; 2. Entjlish ; ',\, Frisian 
4. Old Saxon oT Phltl-Deul>^cb ; 5. Dutch 
FicmiNh. II- From the Scandinavian : 7- Ice-] 
laiidic ; K. Sweilibli ; 1). Danish ; 10. Norwegi; 
(wliich is, perhaps, more a dialect of Djmish th 
a eepamte huiguage). III. Ftvin the High '^ 
man : 11, German. 

If this be understood, the comparative descrip^ 
tions of English, Icelandic, aud German vrill ap- 
pear ;\9 follows : — 

Brafich, Teutonic ; group. Low German ; la 
gnagfy English. 

BrmtfK Teutonic; group, Scandinamn ; la\ 
^^lage^ Icelandic. 

BTavrh^ Teutonic ; groitpf High German ; la 
ipinf/f, GerraarL 

The confusion constantly eithibited by "etymol 
gisitf " coubisU iu mixing up the Teutonic 6mi 
lligh German j^row/ijund German hmjuti^e^ta 


C^S.T.Jm. 1,111.) 


tbem ail inlo one ; from whence comes the absur- 
dity of lookiag upon EogUsb and Icelimdic a^ 

It is ae^ to aee how the trouble arose. It ib 
ib» old Miory of the sculptor and the lion. If the 
lioa Ittd ♦iecuted the sculpture, he might have 
wpin<nt»ri the lion ua cod que ring the uian. The 
muadfttore caiue from Genrnmy^ and hence not 
imlj vw Oermaa u^ed to mean a language, but 
JGUgh Oerman designates one group, Low Germuji 
aiiDther ; next, Teutonic was given as the name of 
A wholr * - ^ much aa if an Eojrlishman were to 
•call th ' Anglic." Nor did the forced 

iiiomci2L«>....w . .^p here, but the attempt was made 
to Qse Genaanic sa the name of ii sub-class, makini,^ 
Genoany to include nearly all Europe, and then 
lodo-Gtirmunie became the name of the complete 
£imiij ot languo^fl ! Happily^ the lost term has 
"^ "y ionnd favour, and thus a last source of 
ii&ion has been set aside. Much as wc arc 
l&dcbied to the Uernians, I think this numen- 
^attiT9 hnx seriously mi^^led a great number of 
Xr. " It would have been better if sotne 

jri term, such as Gothic, could have been 

ir • n :\ ID f- n f t li f b ranch- 

; I lu li : nit is the ''deriving** of 
L 1?^ If'jiu Gft jiiuD, It is 8omethin;j like 

lo H rose on an apple-tree, because they 

t to the Hosacut. 

J I r MO who has any difficulty upon this sub- 

ji' ly u^ the language of botany, he will 

ftt ' a cJear idea of the matter. The 

;ia ordcr^ the *' gfoup " ia a jfnu^j the 

_'r in n tpfcitM, Xeither Icelandic nor 

•* T»;iitrinir" in a f^incric sense; they 

' rder of Tiutonncar^ which is 

I, Wai^ter W. Sk^at. 



I i^-' 


^- T' -it^h ,^nd Swedish hir, - must, of 

issed under the tt^n avian," 

L» vTi^,..,»;y not nnder that of * .i.^ ...c ' ; but, 
IQu the Sajton and Dutch, untler that of ** Gothic." 
The Osmanli Turkish is based upon Uigur, Mon- 
ttif uid perhaps a few other of the numerous 
alar dialects But the j^^eat body of the Tur- 
^ would seem to be composed of Arabic and 
Plerkan, a f.ict which Mr. Ihoac Taylor woidd 
ii A ell to note when he endeavoured to 

tr >n to I he so-caUed Turanian languages!. 

T lino some words from Greek and 

iijrea. The proportions Jerived 

tr. l.iri;,aiage maybe seen by referrin;; to 

l^r I nurirsof Kieiltr and ilLancht, and Eed- 

htJQMe. K. i», CUAELNOCK. 


RoMOrr Ptit'^^iwurt (6«» S, iv. 451.)— In Tides- 
^cD Quutli, CO, Oefby, is an interesting brass to 
iiim blahOfu I copied the in^i ription this summer, , 

and it contains a full reply to W. L., except that 
there h no cout of arms. The brastt was till lately 
on a raised tomb, but lu now on the floor, in what 
h believed to have been its originjil position. The 
bishop is rt'j)i-eaented in eucharlstic vestmenUi — 
mitre, chasuble, stole, enihroidered gloves, but 
without maniple, and with the pastoral stall' over 
his left ahoumer. This ia notewortby, considering 
the date of hia death. At the comers are the 
Evangelifttic s^Tiibols, and this le^'end : — 

" 4- Christ Is to mo as life on earth, and de&tb to me i» 
galne Becaote I triut through him alone aaliration to 
ubiakie. So brlttlo is the state of man, so soon it doth 
d«eay ; So all the glory of this world mtist pa* and fade 
ttway. This Kob«rt I^ungloTc, Bometyme Btihoppe of 
Hall, deccMsed the *J day of May in th« yore «f our 
Lord tJod, i:i79." 

At the foot of the stone is another inscription on 
sin oblong brass ; it is in black-letter, excepting 
the words |>rinted below in Italici, which ai^ in 
Roman type : — 

** Under this stono as here doth Ly a corps aomtituc of 

in tiddf4tPaU bred and bom tnuly, itolert Furt^tow 

by name, 
and there brought op by parents care at School & 

Icartiing trad, 
till aft«rtrard3 by uncle dear to London he was had, 
who, WiUium Bi-adsfutw ht};;ht by uaoiOi in pauls w'h 

did him plnce, 
and y' at Schoole did hicn maintain full thrice 3 whole 

y«aT« space, 
in S< 

to O^hud then ivba did hizn Hend into that CoUedge 

And there 14 yesrs did him find, wh Corpus Chrinti 

hight ; 
i^rom tb«noa at length away he went, A Gierke of 

learning great^ 
to GtMlfuiti Aifftey Streig^^ wai sent and placd in 

Prior/ seat. 
Bu/top of llufl be was also Archdeaatn of N'ttinghftm, 
pTovod of ItaTHerata CoUedye too, of }'orJt eak 

two OramtT ScKoqUs he did ordain with Land for to 

one ffospttal for to m&mtnin twelve inmoteni and pour. 
O Gulurnf, thou with TtddawdU Town. Lement <Sc 

mourn ycut may, 
for this Said C^c rjL of grc*it renoun Lyeth here coiupast 

in clay ; 
though crucll Druth hath now dow* bro^jbt tUis 6orfy 

w' heritf doth ly, 
yet trrimp nf F>nut Stay can be naught to Sound hia 

pn.i-' ; * ■ ■!:. 

Qui v^Tsum orebro relitimtm memoreris 

Ml -ium tutjuc cadaver cris." 


This divine was Prior of Guisbura Abbey, Arch- 
deacon of Kottingham, Provost of Rotheram 
College, and in 1059 '' Suffragan Bishop of the 
See of Hull/' 

(^hieen Elizabeth, by ktlew poXcuV *m Ocit atstts^^ 

t then into the Abbervo was placed ns I wiah 
Southwcirke coil'd where i( doth Ly Saint Jiatji 







and third years of her reign, granted him sepamte 
licences to found a grammar school at Tyddeswell 
(Tidej<well), Derbyshire, and a fn^inmnr school and 
ahnahouse at Guisburn (Guisboroiigh), N. R., cov 
York. He died Miiy 5, 1579, 

IL M. Vane. 
£*toii Place, S,W. 

He died in 1579. A fine brass, with i\ bio- 
grapliical memoir of hini, remains at Tideswellj 
and a full account will he found in the Cambridge 
Cumtien Societj^a Ilhutratioiu of Monumeniut 
liraaa^ p* 19. There are no anus on the bmss. 

C. E. Mann I Nt J. 

Diis lUctory. 

After (^hieen Elizabeth begun her reis^i, Ihe 
Oath of Suprenwcy was offered to him, but, refus- 
ing' to take it, he was deprived of his ardideaconry 
and other spiritualities. He retired to Tideswell, 
where be founded the Gmrnmar School, and there 
died in 157[>. For further pnrticulars see Wood's 
AihoKT, G. W. Nailer. 

Alderlcy Edge. 

See Brett's »SwJffaffan BiihoiJt, p. 61. Wharton 
identifiea this binhop— Brett does not, p, 67 — with 
one Robert Silvester, who is called abo Bishop of 
Hull and Archdeacon of Nottin<;haui. But Le 
Neve calls Archdeacon Silvester William, 

a F, S. Warren, M.A, 


The Society of Friends (6*^ S. iv. 479.)— The 
Society of Friends have no official publication to 
record or report their meetings, except at the 
close of their annual or yearly meeting, when an 
abiitruct of the minuteit and proceedings of that 
meeting is pubUshed for the use of the members 
generally. The periodicals devoted to tJie Society, 
in which the reports of the meetings^ and other 
information of interest to the members, will be 
found, are as follows : — 

1. The Friend, puhlishcd monthly tri LoriJon. 

2. Tho Briti*Ii Friend, publislte-J monthly in Glujgow. 
3- Tlie Monthly Record, published in Birmingham, 

4. The Frlcnda' Quarterly Examiner, pubhslicd in 

Any of these periodicals may be obtained at 
Samuel Harris's, bookseller, 5, BiahopBgate Street 
Without, who ha.s also the care of the pubHeations 
belonging to the Friends' Tract Associatiun. There 
iH also published and edited by Joseph Smith, 2, 
Oxford Street, Whitechapel, in 2 vols* 8vo., 1867: 

"A De'crijitite Ctttalojyue of Friends' Books, or Boots 
Writti-n tiv the Society of Frienda, commonly called 
i^uakerij, from their first Rise to the present Time," kc. 

This work also contains biograpbicAl notices and 
other information of a trustworthy character, col- 
lected and arranged with much care and industry 
by the compiler and editor. 

to doctrinal and other works circulated in the 

Society, if Ethelberta will favour me with her 
iiddresa, I will send her by *' Parcel*' Delivery " or 
otherwise, as she may direct, a copy of each of the 
smaller editions of Barchiy'a Apology and Bates's 
Doctrines of Fritnf^s, both of which are aathoriy^ 
expositions of the principles of the Society of 
Friends, I would aJso enclose with the above a 
catalogue of the Friends' Library of Devonshire 
House Meeting, 8^), Houndsditch, these books, 
under certain reguhitions^ beintr lent to individuals 
not in membership with us. Of period iails in the 
interest of the Society of Friends in America, the 
oldest, and most conservative of the original prin- 
ciples and pmctices of the Society, is The Frtendf 
a Ediffioiu and Lit&ranj Journal, publtflhed 
weekly in Philadelphia, and sold by an agent In 
London. This periodicit! has been in existence 
nearly half a century ; the London magazine* 
about thirty-five yeitrs. Should Etrklhehta re- 
quire any further information, I will endeavour to 
supply it. John Hickes. 

12, Biihopsgafce Street Without. 

Swearing oy the Honys at Higkgatk (!•* S* 
iii, 342 ; iv. 84 ; xl 409,)— I desire to know what 
reprcBentations there are of the above, except the 
folio wing» copies of which I possess : — 

1. *' Swearing at Highgate." InMription coding, "So 
h«lp you, Billy BrKikin, Turn round and fulfill tout 
Oath. Publiflhcd 12th Sepr., 17D6| by Laurie & Whittle, 
53. Fleet Street, London:'* 

2. " Woodward, det. Craickshanlr, scnlp. Swearinc 
at Uigbgate. London : Publiahod by Alien is, W«ft, l^ 
Pftterttoeter Bow, Auut. 27, limr 

3. *'R. Crtiikshank, del, White, bc. 

Johntiy the maid for the miatress refuted, 
Because he*d been dworn at Ui^bgate, 
By the moiutrOuB hums at Highgate." 
Followed by "The moniitruiLn homa at Hi/hgate,** tbre* 
itanz&a, apparently from a liook. Query, WKatt 

4. " Swcaririfi^ on the liorus at llijghgate, from HoDt'l 
Erery-Day Book." 
Hone says : — 

" Anciently th«re wai a register kept at the Oaie-hooMr] 
wherein pcrsoua enrolled tbeir names when sworn tberSf 
but the book unnccnuntably disappeared many yean aiO^ 
Query, Is it in Mr. Upcott'i collection of autographs Tr 

Can any of your readers inform me of the present 
whereabouts of this book, or of any account of the • 
oath except that given by Hone 1 

I should much like to purchase or see copy 
print representing^ the above published by Carnng" 
ton Bowles, St, Paul's Churchyard, iibout the endj 
of last ccnturj'. Gkorqe Pottkr. 

42, Grove Road, Holloway. 

" Serbokian hog " (S*** 8. iv. 328.)— Milton evi- 
dently adopted from Biodoms Siculus the notion of ^ 
" armies whole sunk in the S^erbonian bog " : — 

'•There k a lake/' ob'iervefl that author, "between] 
Ccelo-Syria and Egypt, very narrow but exceedingly 

deep, called Serbon compared round with vast beapff^ 

of sand, great quantities of which are ddlted into tht 
lake by the continued aouthem wiad«, a&d so coTcr tlie 





tt resamtkles (imJ * -^i- 

m) ilt7 land; th*. 
irCljf of th$ tjifit, hr i/' 

together with wUvU uty>Ua." 

\*T(itv Tyjv iS<o-i/Trt TO? 

statemeut of Diodorus, 

laatd Orafcia roendnx 
Listoriii" {*^'af. x. 175), 

BnrtentoBa Gra^oorum mentlacLi '* 

lih, TV?, c. ix. an inBtunce U given 

^0 lake of a portion only of 

(Artoxerxea III.) against 

lu i.(*t native Kin;; of E^jytit, the 

of which cxp€dition Rii^nauy ful- 

•^•cy of Ezeklel (xxx. KVu " There 

a prince of the land of K;^7pt," 

vent abo\-e minied is narrated by 

tbeie words : — 

n% ifaTutrnJcra? S'cttj, rijv a€yd\i}V 
.ifTTi ra ituXoviKi'a fidpa^pa, 


icollected %\\ )i1« foi-ces, marched 
rbati he ciLiiie to th« Great Lake, 
irfttbi*a, throuj^h iicnorance of the 
of kii force in th« bogs." 


<^dition of MiltoD's Fatadm Lmt^ 
<r note on ihia passage : — 

a lake of 300 furlongs in length, and 
, betweoQ the ancient mountain Cajiitii 
dty of Egypt' <^ *>rie of the more 
>f the Kile. It waa iurraunded on all 
io« Band, i»hicL, carried into tidewater 
cened the lake a» not to be di«- 
of the continerit, nhere whole 
ralloweJ up. Read Herodotua, 
»Aar*tt/. TilL :*3!), &c/' 

O. W. Napier. 

is oelehfAted in history for 
^«f at least the pnrti&l destruction 
D B.C- 350, when Darius Ochui' v as 
_ ftormiDg of Sidon, to -Ejcypt, in 
lAlitbarity of Pcma in tbnt kipedom. 
bit probably exnggerated the serious 

Eniltilation of the invading hust/'— 

Edward Peacock. 

THK Ford and Hickitan 
;. L 3H, 112, 249.)— Since my last 
on the above subject I have founul 
Joseph Ford and Jane Ford, liis 
m described us of Oldawinford, in 
~ li^tp Mrs. Ford's will, which 
\v9d at Wor- 

cester in the following montii, contains an inte- 
resting allusion to Dr. Johnson's parents which 
clearly establishes the relationship. She desires 
lier son CorQeliua to pay to her brother-in-law, 
Michael Johnson, and his wife, or their trustees, 
"the 2<Xi?. directed by his late dear father's will 
to be paid to me in lieu of auch moneys na my late 
hnsband received in trust for iny said brother 
Johnson and his wife.** 

I liave not yet ascertained the parentage of Mrs. 
Ford. She mentions her sister, Joice Ward, and 
her nieces, Ann Hunt and Mary Withers. Nor 
have I discovered the baptismal name of Mrs. 
Johnson's father ; hut I nm inclined to identify 
the latter with Cornelius Ford of Kinjjsnorton, co. 
Worcester, who in 16(j7 was ''overseer" of Uie 
will of John Brettell of Kidder mi nKter. It aeeui9 
now quite clear that "Parson Ford" was not 
Cornelius*, the son of Dr. Joseph ; for Mrs. Ford 
leaves the residue of her estate, real and personal, 
to her son Cornelius, and request*^ him to "con- 
tinue a friend and father to my family." She 
also appoints him sole executor of her will \ and 
no doubt he was the Cornelius Ford who was 
buried rtt Oldswinford, Bee. Id, 1734. 

Dr. Ford mentions three brothers in his will, 
Cornelius, Samuel, and Nathaniel ; also a sister, 
Mrs. Elizabeth Bowyer (to whom he leaves ^40^.). 
To Ph<i'be, the d;mghter of his brother Cornelius, 
he leaves certain property, and desires his brothec 
Nathaniel to be her fjuardian, although her father 
was then alive, I think the " parson " must have 
heen a Bon of Nathaniel, and that it was with 
Cornelius (h. 1693, oh. 1734), the aon of Joseph, 
that Johnson resided, when at school at Stour- 
bridge in 1724. 

One of your correspondents communicated with 
me privately soon after the appeamnce of my for- 
mer note, calling my attention to a passage in Sip 
John Hawkins's Life, of JohmoiK in which it is 
stated that upon Johnson's leavinir the Universitv 
"he went home to the hou!*o of his fntbert which 
he found so nearly filled with relatives, that is to 
say, the maiden sisters of his mother and couain 
Cornelius Ford, whom his father, on the dencease 
of their brother in the summer of 1731, had takeft 
to board, that it would scarce receive him." This, 
as my correBi>ondeiit remarks, is far from clear. 
Does it mean " the maiden sisters of his mother, 
and thoae of his cousin Cornelius"? And was 
the penon who died in 1731 the brother of Mrs. 
Johnson or of the sisters of Cornelius ? I find in 
the Oldswinford recjistera the burial of "Nathiniel 
Ford, Dec. 25, 1731/' who, I suppose, is the 
brother in fjueation, thoujjh he could not have' 
dieii in the summer. A " Mr, Nathaniel Forde"^ 
was also buried there, July 4, 172i>. 

Mrs. Ford mentions, amon^' others, her "dau%lit« 

Acton '' ; and Dr, Ford mei\li<iTv% \v\s ^^ ?^tl-W\»w , 

iVf. Clement ActoW Tbe \fiAY ^aa ^\3at^^ 




daasht^r of Mrs, FonI by her first husband, Gre- 
gory Hickman ; and it wtu her daughter Mary to 
^bom tlie Rev. Walter Hickman refers as hla 
^ kiti«woiiuio and affianced bride." 

I may aa wall here mention that the proieot 
Hickmoiu an descended from Gregory (son of the 
aboTe Gr«^fy) by his oecond wife, ELixiabeih Iaw, 
bio fin»t wife having been (it will be remembered) 
the widow of his cousin, Richard Hickman, and 
the mother of Mra. Turtoa. I ahall be greatly 
obli^'tMJ to any correspondent who can itate the 
parojaUgie of " Parson Fonl/' 

H< Stdtset Grazebrook. 


PoKTs TH« Masters of Lajjoc age (4"» S. xL 
110; 5»* S, iv, 431, 491.)— I have not only read 
Max Mtiller, but have bestowed on him more 
vuirtfin^liii than on moat books on my shelves ; 
and I wholly differ from him in his theory that 
lanf^uaiie ia a ph\fiu>il Kience. The matertolifim 
which i« now fashionable cannot endure ; and the 
attempt to apply Darwinism to language, the 
vehicle of thought, ia, in my judgment, a complete 

W. H. remarks tliat " not even a Byron could 
€flt*ct niich a mdical alteration aa the conversion of 
a tmnaitivi* verb into an intransitive one, abcays 
ynmdBd that there he no latent ccii»\c\ty of cJiangc 
emttinff in Ou woTtL" U not the phrase I italiciae 
a pHitM yrineipiif Haa not every word that 
capacity, patent rather thiui latent I When Virgil 
naed the intmnsitive verb tremUco transitively 
{JEmeid^ in. 646), is it not probable that Rome 
aoc«^pted the innovation 7 

I ojiree with W. H. that man may be, and 
indeed ip, the fornuil, but cannot be the efficient, 
can "' liitc^e. It ia only a part of a wider 
tfii' tu is not the primal cause of anything 

— tln»u-!i I bold man to bo the final cause of afi 

••Who," rwka W. H., "would be considered 
ijicn^xible of being entrusted with this power /"— 
the »>oicrr of chan'j'" " ' '""'ifige. As well oak who 
ahall be I'utrutlcil war of leading armies, 

of making discover: . iiiiatry or aatronomy, of 

" Wielding at will m fierce dcmocratie." 

The complete answer to W. H. is that great 
writer* mM speakers do cJiange the force of words. 
** When Geoeral Wolfe first used the eiprcsaion 
•choice of ditrKultieV which was contradiction, 
choice then meiming voluntary election, he made 
those to whom he wrote see his position with much 
more etleot llmu could have been produced a second 
time by the same words" (De Morgan, Umihk 
Aljfthnt, p. 9(1, n.). In a similar manner Earl 
Russell h»iJ9 widened the meaning of the word 
" connpicuous," and has made a person or thing 
" conspicuous by absence/' Makrocheir. 

Arabella Fitzjamks {'y^ 8. iv. 488,) — ^Thii 
bdy was Arabella Churchill, eldest ehUd of Sir 
Winston Churchill, and sister of the great Duke 
of Marlborough. She was at one time a £svouied 
mistress of King James IL when he was Duke of 
York, and assumed the name of i - She 

was the mother of fou r ch ildren— i ; icits, 

the Duke of Berwick ; Henn,- Fir ^ trie Grsod 

Prior of France; Henrietta 1 ; -^, afterwaids 

Lady Woldegrave ; and Eliza bttii Fiujanies, who 
became a nan. 

Arabella Fitzjanies, having been Iop- "— » i^««? 
by the Duke, was living in comparati' 
when he came to the throne. Coxe, /. 
borough, 1818, I p. 34, states tha 
Revolution she was in receipt of a p** t 
Tri.4h establishment. She then i 

Charles Godfrey, who, through tl; r 

brother (then Earl of Marlbowu:^ -i 

Keeper of the Jewels in the 1 .''. 

Go<Ifrey she bad two danghterr, the tdder d 
which. Chariot, married Viscount F'almouth, snd 
died in 1754. 

In Chalmers's Bio. Diety under the head of 
** Churchil), Sir W.," there is a short notin of diii 
lady, in which occurs a most remariatbls error. 
The author rightly mentions the four chSldren of 
Amhella Churchill (or Fitzjames), but describe 
the fourth thus :— " The youngest daughter wa* i 
nun^ but afterwarda married Colonel Godliney, by 
whom she had two daughters." Tha sentoaif 
ought to have been :— *' The youngest d; 
was a nun. Arabella Chnrchill afterwards 1 1 _ 
Colonel Godfrey,*' &c, Edward Sou.1 

In the Necrology of the English Ben 
Liidies of PontoLse, her obituary notice is 
corded : — '' Marv Ignatia Fit/james, da 
James IL and Sirs. Churchill Profi 
died November 7, 17tU, aged 30." 
obituary notice is of Agnes Arthur, 
Sir Pun i el Arthur^^ of Ireland, and of 
Smith of Crabett, in Sussex ; died 1765 
The lady abbe^ at the time of Ara 
jnraci^'* ttrst residence at Pontoise war the 
Anne Neville, daughter of Henry, Lord 
gavenny, and Lady Mury Sackville, daugl 
Thomas, iirst Earl of Dorset. 

Mr. Hilton Price will find a detailed 
of the community in Uerahi and Genta^ 
vol iii. p. G6, &c. He would confer a 
oblij^ation by stating how this paper Gime into. 
posse!^sion, as it might give a clue to the fate' 
others which have been anxiously sought foT- 
vain. Teu) 

Under the heading of " Fitzjames," I find 
James Fitzjames was a natural son of the 
of York, afterwarda James, King of England, 
in 1671 at Molines, to which place his mol 




Anbclla CbnxcMlt sUter of the great Pake of 
MArlborotigb, M joameyed* H. S. 

"Cjlrfkt K^iGifT" (6* S. iv. 428.)— The 
fe xnro H M an ''carpet knight^' may be found in 
MSxrmiim^ iod I suppose corresponds to *' feafcher- 

.•re-tUTn'd jointo nnd atr«DKth of limb 
J htm t» carpet iKt^ht ho trim, 
H jl in ekitm fight & chiimpion grim, 
la e«Bif« mTttader mge. " 

Canto i. stanza 5. 

The allitsion is, of corniie, to Lord ManuioD. 

John Pickford, M.A* 
Xnvbottrtie ftectory, Woodbridgf . 

■^ • ri^gin of thU expresaioa hiw been tmced to 
ireefr : in the first pLice it applied to one 
wuo tnud \ftitn knighted at CVmrt by favour, ini 
diBtiiiipiifthed from another who had gained the 
^QII0ur J- 'V ' ' "-^^ ■••Tjance of aonie deed, military' 
or oUi' atitled hira to, or in return 

for wLiv^. .^. . . . J, the dignity of u knighthood ; 

■od ia Uie aecond pbce it was used in the case of 
kvjm, nuiyora, and other civilians, who were 
invambfr knighted kneelinff upon a carpet. 

Sw Bandle Holnaeft's Atademy of Armoury ^ iii. 
■i* ;— 

** All andi m liftTtt atiuiled Ltw, Physic, or any other 
Ifti sad Scieti(^r4, whereby ihcj have becoiDe famuii*,, 
... ^Jtf H b« the Kmg's plciiHuro to kniglit auj «uch 
ifHetins they kro not kijlj^hted as i;oldiert, thcj 
l)liir«lore to tue the Horseman 'a Title or Spun : 
'MVVUj t^rmM simply m>t4$ abd mililgji, Knight or 
'of' or Knight* of the Green Cloth, 

I thute Knight« that are dabbed 

ItJC- JtlUtil, ' 

C. F. 8. Wareejt, M.A. 

*Tnw Sc^fTTUsn House of Roobr*' (5*^ S. iv. 
35ft.) — Hog«r, Rtdph, and Hugh nijiy have 
Wn mtmes fn \t^ among the Normans, but the 
firtl two art id the last u of Dutch 

:;iLr was originally Play- 
ierived from a river Phiy ; 
Hi, n atream, which id liable 
'jl^ r/i, pH : thus rivera named 
lay, Ijer, Lee, Cl;«y, Gl»y, and Play would be 
ftj^anlfjgiculJy the hhiuc ; jimt as iim, would become 
Coa, GUo, add Flan. But there la an inverse of 
(^ tMXn€« V. c Fairplay, which, as a Gothic or a 
Sbao-Ssxoo compound, would tmnslate " sheep 
or nwadow." like the afumame Farley, and 
tl»e locji I light, in Sus.-ex/ Hul- 

L> fr^rn <» ' ;*, noble warrior (oonf. 

Adal* n, Uerwui). Bodgei or Roger ia 

tbt I. ih^ 0.0. Radiger (inverse of 

GaiBki: -several ways. Thus 

^ , -^ liahed in counsel/^ 

onAn, If 

k^ it vit- 

^SU# the ion: 

or " jiowerfuJ councillor " ; rat-ger, " a war cotm- 
cillor." Wachter variously rendera — 

'* Hat, consilium, conciliuiu, senatus, consiliariiis, con- 
suitor; ^ctr, tclum. tctuj ot totalitcr, f^ratus. perfectua ^ 
fftr, telum, missile, bellutn, uIIdj. aponte, Ubcntur, aiuaa- 
ter, gratanter, ex animo* cupidus, cupitlti, studioius, 
diligenter; and md, dto, OQterit«r, oelor, ftlacor." 

R, S. CnARjiocK. 


MoRGA^f's System of Cunsanucinitt {h^^ S. 
iv. 405.) — Under this he.iding Mr. Gommk has 
Home remurks on the use formerly niade of " ne- 
phew ^ and "niece " to indicate other rehttionshipa 
tliun aimply that of brother's or sister's chUd. An 
instance of this occurs in the epitjiph in Bolsover 
Chtirch, Derbyshire, to the memory of Sir Charles 
Cavendish, who died in 1617 :^ 

" Ckarlii Cavendish to hit Soiit. 
Sonnet, seek not me nmong these polished stones. 
Those only hide part of my flesh and bonei; 
Which did they here so neat or proudly dwell. 
Will atl be dust, and may not make me swell. 
Let such as have out!iY*d all praise 
Trust in the tombs their carelul friends do ralss: 
i mode my life my monument, and youn«, 
To which there 'a no material that endures; 
Jior ycti»»criptiori like it. Write but that, 
And teacho your nephews it to emulate; 
It will he matter loud enough to tell 
Mot when I died, but how I lir'd. Farewell." 
As we have nephew and niece from the Latin 
ntposy our present refltricted use of the words is 
a narrowing of their original signification, 

St. SwiTiiiK. 

"Braxglk" (5«» S. iv. 405.)— A hrangU^ in 
the diidect of Lindsey, si^'nifie« anything confused 
or entangled. A man said to me, within the liiat 
few days, talking on drainage matters, ". . . . 
gotten his sen into a strange hranglc about Ran 
Dyke, an' there '11 be some brass spent afore he *a 
gotten his sen otit ageiin, Fm thinkin*." He meant 
that the person whose name is here indicated by 
dots had become entangled in a serious and com* 
plex matter with regard to drainage rights, and 
that lawsuits were impending. K. P. D. £. 

Shaktwo Hands (5»»« S. iv, 487.)— In England, 
down to the reign of Charles IL or a little hiter, 
the kiss wns the common greeting to friends and 
strangers alike, and shaking haods wns a mark of 
close intiinacy or high favour. In the Diary of 
Anne, Coiintesa of Pembroke (why does not the 
Camden Society publish it?), her ladyship thinks 
the fact of her shaking hund.s with any one worth 
noting. The kiss for greeting was not the rule 
on the Continent in Henry VII.'s time, for Erasmus, 
who then visited England, was much amused by 
being kissed on iUl sides. When the kiss went out 
as the usual greeting, the stately, diBt^int bow took 
its place. When hand-ahakiog beciime common I 
do not know ; I suspect not very long since. 





Calctes (5* S. iv. 405, 471.)— The word caku 
h no doubt the same sa cattsiy^ in which form it is 
ftiLI in common u»e on the Borders to signify a 
■narrow way either in town or country, and not 
jnerely a paved road or chaustic^ tLs commonly atip- 
posed. But instead of u Latin etymon, Scotch 
philologist A (as i^ibbald and Jamieson) derive it, 
with more probability, from the Teutonic kassU^ 
kav^j€f kauhiji^^via ttnttOj the liquid I being in- 
iierted for the sake of euphony when it occurs in 
medmjvftl law Latin, as in some Scottish Acts of 
"Parliament, or in poetry. TbnA Sir David Lind- 
Miy :— 

*' M&k jour abboitis of rigbte rtligioaa men. 
And not ,...,.. 
Of Aiiiay pBikerii nor of publii^ni," 

In common parlance the word is still pronounced 
hereabonta exOrCtty according to its normoJ fonn, 
quaii caul, easifaj, causey. At the Bristol meeting 
of the British Association in August la&tu the Ber. 
J. Eiirle (editor of the Hkt^ton 0trotiim) read a 
paper in the Biological Section "On the Ethno- 
graphy of Scotland/* in which he showed, from the 
Gt proportion of Nor^e words occumag In Low- 
Scotch, that the popuktion between the Forth 
and the Humber partook lai^iy of a ScandlnaTian 
origin. This will aocounfe Ratisfoctorily for the 
preserration of the word in ita unaltened form to 
the present day, W. E, 

Concerning the connection of chavstie with caX- 
eeaia, made with lime, Littr^ remarks ; — 

**Ja cbaai8<^e est aurtout une lev^* de terne ou )a 
•eliailt n'antre pu ■ lUul rt.ut il mieujc prendre ealcigiiutj 
chMiuae, pull foti1£, sens qui u troiiTa en eflet dans le 
bw>Uttn (tdj. Bu Ciuife,C4Uciare) de wrte que la chftunee 
Kftmit 1& Um foul6e, prottet." 

St. S within, 

SiK KOBEBT Km POBTZR (5** S. iv. 370.)— Hts 
only dttiightcr married, about the year 1837, a M, 
Kifcine, a military man, not belonging to the titled 
nobility, but holding rank,^ am all Ruaabn gentle- 
men do, accortHng to position in the Government 
sendee* M, and Madame Kik^ie were both 
liTiDg two or three years ago on hiB estates near 
Moscow, and probably are bo atiU* They have no 
chQdren of their own, but have adopted one or 
two. Sir R Porter had a brother who died some 
years ago, I think at Bath, where ho resided. I 
"believe he wag not married, and I know of no 
other relatives of the name^ B. V. H. 

" The Htstort of Living Mmt," &e. (5** S. ir, 
42fl.)— By John Dunton, See "N. & Q" 2«a S. 
iv, 336. J. O. 

AncHDiucoNs' Sbals (5* S. ir. 327, 35S, 378, 
3B1.)— I hare before me at this moment the beati- 
tiful seal of William of Wykeham, ai Archdeacon 
of Lincoln, from which the engraving wm made 
for tha Wineheater Boofi of the Aichjvological 

Institute, repeiited in Mr. It Wakott'a William 
of [Vykdmm attd hi* CoUt^cs^ and also in Byiho|) 
Charles Words wo rth^s CtyUcgc €>/ Ht. Mary Wintcn. 
It ]& a very poor representation ; for, though the 
Quperseription is even more worn away than 'whm 
it was engmred, the word " lincolnie " ia dcMcr 
still than in the ec^ving. 

There is a remarLkble interest attaching to tliis 
seal, OS contmdicting the "Beport of Rdbeit 
Glover, Somerset Hendd, to Lord Treasurer Bnf» 
leJgb, concerning the dispute between Sir Riduud 
Fiennes and Humphrey Wickham, Esq., djil«d 
March, 1572/' referred to in Lowth^a I^fs vf 
Wijkehant, p, 10. Glover there aaya ; — 

"The tnid BIshoppe bare hit anas divenily &t two 
Rdndry tjmet, &a tbe s«a.!s ther«df abi'ived by Sir Elehard 
Fjnei tettify. Before he wilb Biftbopp<^, when a« jft 
be wu bat Archdeacon of Lincotne^ he maXtd but «itJi 
Hdne cbeTfiron ia his anneft between three rawt*; bst 
afe«r, when he waa advuictd to tfao Bivbopprteke, be 
■Mied witb two cb«irercini between three ro#e« : aod m 
u- i^enerallj knowa to thii di^y to bo liis witUout ooacrs- 

In this s^, however, w^e have tbe twochev* 
ronek, or double chevron, when he was still nn' 
doubtedly ArchdeaooiL C. W. BotOHAX. 

I have before me an impression of Oardiml 
Wolsey's seal when Archdeacon of Northaroptoit. 
It is not hersldic. The mscriptton is :^** gkil- 
lam . Thoma; . Wobey , B,T.P, . Archidiooni. 
Northampton^^ It Is bom tbe collection of the 
late Sir H. Kllis, and at the service of the Arch- 
deacon of Oakham. John Hirst, Job. 


S. iv- 249, 374, 39<>, 417, 430, 474, 49ii.)—Soii» 
English Churchmen may be interested to know 
that Archbtahop Whately, who came to Dublin in 
1B31, immediately began tbe practice of add retting 
the young people extempore before admimst^ring 
the rite. He always continued to do so, and also 
insisted that the catechumens should join in the 
Holy Communion immediately afler on the mmt 
day. This was by some thought objectionaWi, 
and waa found practically inconvenient by aU—it 
leaat in the city churches, where the numbeiB 
were usually very great. His Grace always aiped 
the tickets presented at the mils, and hadum 
returfled witn a request that they should be pre- 
served, and attached inside the covers of the Bibles 
or Prayer Books as remembrancers of the fiiat 
communion, S, T. P, 

Ancient Irish Crossks (fi**» S. iv. 349, 473.)— 
What a pity it is that words are used io often 
in a non-natural seose J " Eunic " means hearing 
I^unic kUtrSj but it is often unhappily employed) 
as I Buppo^ by GftSTSTiii., for beaTtng mak$ <w- 
nanunU or other winding or interlnced decorations. 
Ko reaUy Hunic cron exists In Ireland. The -only 

^•8.V. Ja», 1,7<1] 



o(^«o( as yet §mad m that countty bearing Runes 
tt » f^ngmeat of a »word<belt, dug up at Greea- 
moa&t,ln LostL For iU diacovtry we bive to 
th&nk the Ad of Major-Gen* J. H. Lefroy, now 
GoTextior ti llie Bcniitidas (see Journal of tfu 
Arth, ImtlituU, London, 1870, and Jouni, of tht 
Rcy. SUL mmd Ar<h€£oL Auoc of Ireland^ April, 
1671, 1^ 471-502). Perhaps GREy&TEiL may 
J^Y« hiin. iknkixig of the lale of Man, which hus 
nr Banic cro«e=s &Cv George Stephens. 

^ten, Denm&rk. 

Chajll«b Clark of Totham, Essex (5*^ S. 
iv, 4&4f 62L} — For reference to his publicationB 
iee the Bwikdhook of Fictitious Xames, pp. 29^ 44, 
lOlr tad 197. I hope that the personal appli- 
otioa win he more succeasful than in my own 
ctiae, hot I doubt it. The modesty of authors— 
wlio joitit far publicity t — is ancoDquerable. 

OLritAn Hamst. 

SSy Xkrag^tj Street, Mf.C. 

Clacdk Amtavd (6^ S. iv, 348, 307, 477,)— 
As it U ftlways desirable to have accuracy enforced 
in the pages of ^' N. & Q.," may I be rdlowed to 
itale that I beliere one or two errors have crept 
ialo nij Article »t the hint named reference, and for 
tke^eOirecticQ I am indebted to a friendly letter 
ivethw) on the subject i The writer, an old con- 
talPBtar to your ootumnn, mentions that Sir 
dandliM Aniyftud, the eminent surgeon, h^d three 
mna — George, Claude, and Thomas, George, the 
dde»t BOO, iAra» created a baron et, died in 17(>6, 
mi WM tuooeeded by hia i*on, who married Miss 
GonewAn, afid took her family name ; Claude, 
dit MBond son, as he h distinctly called both in 
tSmt fSitdAun into college at* Westminster in 1732 
tod to Oxford in 1736^ peems after hia father's 
<iitlfato have heeii (Ville<i Claiitiius^aDd died issue- 
Imp la 1774 ; Thomiw, the third son, wa« Rector 
of Bomblcdon and Fauley, married Frances Kyder, 
and left only three daughters. It will easily be 
Men bom the above etatement how I run into the 
CBirof inppoffing that there were two brother*, 
40e tamed Ctandeand the other Claud iusAniyand. 
B«t why the ttltenitiou of the Christian name wiia 
mtd6, or wlukt renAon could jnatify the chanj^e, is 
Ml m apparent. Jons? Pickpord, M.A. 

Sfvboanto Bcdory, Woodbridge. 

AUtmni fKatfrnoTuutm^ruef is wrong in styling 
tktmoi tm the second son of Hlr Claudius Amyand. 
& &tlifT never wsii* a Uronet. The baronetcy 
wa» Dot ntil 1764, and his father died in 

1740L only three sons — 1, George, 

ocsled a Uuuaet ; 2, Cbndius, the person a«ked 
rbo nurried in 17G! ; 3, Thomaa, a clergi^- 
" tliree daughlem 

Chables Hawkinb. 


Wat0ianaMmintes, edition 1S52, pp. 301 and 

Le Neve'b " Fasti " (5** S. iv. 47ri, 492.)— I 
think your correspondents' reijinrks on Sir Thomas 
Duffus Hardy's edition of the Fasti Bcdeaiir. 
AntjlicanfT. very unfair. It is a work I am in the 
habit of constantly using, and, after very frequently 
testing the statements made therein, I have come 
to the conclusion that it is one of the most accu- 
rate books I have ever used. Of course, there are 
errors in it. Does any one who has had experi- 
ence in compilation think it possible that such a 
book could be so made as to be free from mis takes? 
The wonder to me is that they are so very few. 
Edward Peacock. 

Botteiford Manor, Brigg. 

Heraldic (5**» S. iv. 388, 436.) -The subject is 
treated, and appropriately illustnUcd, in Mr. 
Bouteli's English Heraldry^ London, 18C7, p. 173, 

J. Ma>'uel. 


'H% (5t^ S. iv. 443, 494.)— I cannot agree with 
Mr. Tew that Jelf.^ Greet Grammar or Liddell 
and Scott '» LcAcon contains a satisfactory Recount 
of the adverb vj^i/, If he reads the urticle on this 
word in the former, he will find a vngue uncer- 
tainty running through the whole explanation ; 
and, in the latter, no gtiimtil root-meaning of the 
word is attempted. Aa yet, therefore, I still 
adhere to my original statement. But it is also 
plain, from the nature of the case, that the accounts 
given of this word have not been satisfnctory. Else 
how would Mr. Tew explain the fact that my first 
o notation was so wronglv translated by the famous 
Cambridge scholajr, and met with such general 
approhatiOD? Liddell and Scott's Ltruon and 
Jelfs Gredt Chramjaat were even then in the hands 
of the public. 

Since the appearance of our article in " N. & Q*" 
I have had a letter from Prof. Blackic, of Edin- 
burgh, in which he accepts our explanation as 
correct, implying, at the siune time, that he had 
been unable up to that time to Hod imy adequate 
solution of the word. And yet I should think 
that Prot Blackie possesses copies both of Liddell 
and Scott's Lcncon and of Jelf's Greek (rmmm/ir. 

He also further iilustr.ited our view from the 
etymology of the word, supposing it to be an 
emphatic form of ot;, just as y /iv)v is an emphatic 
form of /ji>ii . Hence, he very truly remarks, tjShj 
must imply commnmation or cubnination. 

I should hardly have troubled to make this 
reply had it not been that I wish to enter my 
protest against the d^ndivt spirit with which 
grammars and lexicons are generally so deeply 
imbued ; a spirit which is so contmry to tliis 
inductive age, RobVs Latin Grammar is a re- 
markable exception ; but aa yet no Greek grammar 
of corresponding exocllence has appeared. 




(5» a. V. Jxs. I. 78. 


"Teetotal" (b^ S. iv. 429.)^! hare heard 
Uiis word and " ti^totaUy " used by Lancashife 
people befofti tbe daja of the TempemBce more- 
iiient. At this diatiince of time, I reniembef per- 
90118 who httbitually used the«c wordfi, and the 
prefix seemed to me to b« intended to mid force to 
" total " and ** totaUy." Ellcee. 


I ani sure that I used to hear this, as a kind of 
iDleDsificiilion of ** total," before it w»h applied to 
abstinence from strong drinlc But I iiaw, about 
forty years a^o, a copper medal, halfpenny size, 
bearing the *' ima|;e and superscription ** of a cer- 
tain workman (whose name I forget), with the 
a<iditJon» " inventor of the word teetotal." It was 
strtick, I believe, at Birmingham. S, T. P. 

WiLLiAsf, TniRD Earl of Pembroke, of the 
IIkrhert FAiriLT (b^ S, iv, 487.)— I am aorry 
thai I cannot r(ive Tyko the dote of nmrringe for 
which he ask$, but I can supply him with the dates 
of death of thia Earl's two wives, and perhaps these 
may assifit him in his inquiries. 

Aiuie Parr, iinit wife, died at Eaynard's Castle^ 
Feb. SO) 1552, and wa:i buried in St. Payrs 

Anne Talbot, second wife, died May IG, 1676 
(sor^'ivio^ her husband), and vma buried in SaMa- 
bury Cathedral. Hermkntrude. 



The Life of Jonatluin StrifL By John Forskr. 

Vol.1. 1067-1711. (John Murray.) 
The great bio}Tniphy of this seawon, 1875-1876, is, 
nadoubtcdly, Swiftn life by Mr. Forster. No 
book of the same cIjws has been 8o impatiently 
waited for, or hna been ao long stimulitiDg ex- 
pectation. At lenj;jth it is in the liands of the 
£ublie, and theij will uncjuestionably find that they 
ave lofll nothing bj* having been kept waiting. 
The readers of " N, & Q." need not to be t^ld how 
great ia the curiosity with regard to kSwift* \m 
aaying^, his doings, his thoughts, and his designs. 
Our ( Jonend Indexes bear witness to this fact in 
their numerous entries under the word " Swift '" ; 
and this oqIv reflects a wider general curiosity on 
the part of the public to be more closely and ac- 
curately acquainted with a great man who has 
suffered by miarepreaentation^ whose errors have 
been exaggerated^ and whose virtues have been 
denied. Mr. Forstera biogniphy (taking the first 
Toltune as a guarantee fur the two that are to fol- 
low) will gratify the curiosity to which we have 
alluded ; or, ruther thun curiosity, we should, 
perhaps, say s^j/mpaUiy, for there hnR never been 
waatiog sympathy for the Dean, even on the side 


of those who are his advermries in reference lo 
social and political matters. The reason thereof 
is to bo found in the circumstance that, in the 
light of transcendent ability, the human fttil:' -^ 
of the man disappear ; just as with the man \ym 
is found worthy of being acknowledged as a 
limely inspired poet, under the touch of divii 
inspiration, the shortcomings of hia humanity 
matters with which w© no longer concern onrseli 
It may be that Mr. Forster has a too highly heai 
measure of affection for his hero, aa is the 
with miiny biographers ; but the volumes to o 
will show if be had not warrant sufficient for 
love which abounds in thia first instalment, 
must be confessed, too, that 5Ir. Forster has 
the threads of a complicated storj- so well in 
and such a grasp of his important subject^i 
render gainsjiying of the testimony he addi 
favour of his illustrious client a very difficult 
indeed. It is impossible to conceive a story m< 
carefully, elaboratelv, and minutely worked 
far aa this first volume carries it. The spl 
portniit, which serves as a noble frontispi 
from the original picture bj' Jervas : and 
give a favourable opinion of the powers 
Ihsh artist, who also painted the portraits of*! 
and Addison, to those who have been preja( 
against him by the malic* of critics and the bat* 
aism of Knelier. From this portrait, t *' '•'^* 
page of the volume, the interest ia m\ 
auatained. Ever}* chapter adds sot" ♦' 
proviously garnered knowledge, ■ 
tome long entertained error. Of tb 
yean of Swift's life, this volume nn 
struggles, joys, and sorrows of the first • 
Thus the greater portion is told, but by tar the 
more romantic portion awaits the telling. 

En^lUh BiMtoryfor the Uu of Public SchcoU, Bj 
Rev. J. Franck Bright, M.A., Fellow of Uni- 
versity College, and Historical Lecturer in 
Balliol, Kew, and University Colleges, Oxfr^rd ; 
late Master of the Modern School in Marl* 
borough College. Period I. Mediaeval Monarchy* 
Mr. Bright, who followed his old head-masttt 
from Marlborough to Oxford, and has there he- 
come a very popular historical lecturer, write* 
directly for our old friends,** the boys," with \\ hose 
requirements he in necessarily well acquaintcil. li 
is, of course, imposaible to avoid making 
comparison between his book and Mr. Gr» 
though both the scope of the two authors, and 
their mode of treating their subject, difi"er con- 
siderably. Mr. Green, as has been already iKiinted 
out in these columns, professes to write, not a 
School History of Engtand^ but a History of the 
English People. Mr. Bright, at the request of 
an aaaembly of Public School masters, undertook 
what he intended to be a " useful book for school 




a want felt by those who 

Mr Bright hii» been to 
distinct periods, which are 
aepar&t€ voluiues ; and, if we 
mt aright, each periud ia to V>c 
and purch^isable sep:imtely, 
od, exteadioyf from the depar- 
to Boaworth Field, is bow bc- 
hunds of a nuister who knows 
Middle Ages it will be a usef\U 
tmrrative ia clejir and concise, 
udeftd plans and mnps. We 
Uiat wc fully catch the meaning 
of (gamboge which are diHtri- 
of Eogknd and Wales^ 1006- 
m their prevailing Largely ia 
, and Wales, wc ii^-^iimc they 
Hi the predoDiinance of the 
the population of the dktrici* 
it would have been better to 
in a note. We are sorry to 
t's part, an occaiSional care- 
Lerminology^ which seem^ to 
not thoroughly gntspcd the 
vol history. He seems sui- 
' appeals to the jadraienl; 
rt q{ international arbitra- 
t, and often valuable, 
pie ^liddle Age^ ; and 
Sigismund's success in 
lete sopreraocy of the 
man Empire " to the *' activity and 

at * ili- 

m L^ . :.... .......ty" 

VD of little avail. But Mr. i5rit;ht'rt 
, flnifihed, and we shulJ look forwivrd 
I kb next roliime. 

"Briefly oonsiJered a? Jlcvcaling 
mit of Mum*n Nature. By Atidrew 
Edition. (Loo{^»n« ^V Co ) 
I, indeed, developed in thia volume. The 
ta^ of tJ*t Offerintjt in Lrttticuji i*fa,r 
n^ hi* rendrrs. Those aciiuatnted with 
na iti wnter here reproduciik^ bk for- 
originaJity of thoagbc. A niyitic vein, 
fthall be found running thronghoiit ibis 
but the ore u sometifnep, it mutt bo 
lite to tlic grit of fancy, Conceilmi? the 
0ji(irr,vr n.^i) Hod tbftt tbe things of the 
ived, there still reni«rn 
uon. In placci a morn], 
d a(<pTO{in6ter, is fjrced from the sacred 
hmm^ too, ha,rd]y carry oflF, in the Pre- 
Iu« %u UitTTTi ; for^ if their own idcaa and 
iin them were omitted in 
'.vould far from reach its 
«uc iD«rtt«, however, Kr«'&tly out- 
of thought and allegorical 
_ •flMUtof Adaaj, represented by 
tflOW IBAek careful sCady, and open t 

Wide field of meditation. No nne esn read the book 
without feeling itratefnl for beinv; no much instructed, 
not only in the types of fJenrsir, but in naany collateral 
portion* of Scripture. 


" T1)e glowing portraits fresh from life that bring 
lioiae to thn licart the truth* from whence ihey 
spriaft, " kc. 

'* Xear, n very n^ to God, 
Nearer I cannot be ; 
For in the person of his Son 
I am as near ai he," &c. 

" Tlie spring retttmi ; but not to me return 
The veriuit ioya my better years hare known*" 

I), A. D. 
•• Oh thst the armies indeed were arrayed, oh, joy of the 
onset ! 
Scrand, thoti trumpet of <Jod I come forth, great eanae, 

to array Ui J 
Kin^; and Leader, Appear ! thy soldien sorrowing leek 

a M. 
** Deep Blighted in inlelllKeueea, 

IdeuH, lit^niis, iii<lui;nceii." 
" Now voices orcr voices vise. 
Wit I' 1.0 tho IptvrDed*st viea ; 

Nut . rtic! OH t>r matter 

lu ci iiitde such a clatter ; 

And Miidai now eoneludoe hie speeches 
With AS£c«' ears and- — ,"* 

8. D. L. 
*' Eiae^ Jupiter^ and snuff the moon.** 

T. J. 
" IlMrd is the seaboy'a fAte* 
His openini; hoitra d<:uicd the shelter of pateroal 
bowers," kc. 

A CoNjtTAsrr SmscaiBta. 
" Sitting .... by the jKiisoned uprinps of Ufe, 
Watting for the morrow which shal) free ui from the 

T. W. C. 
*' £xig« itaque a loe, nou ut gptimi« par sim, sed ui 
mjdLs melior." 

J. H. 

" If Heaven be plexscd when ainnera ceaic to lill, 
If Hell be pleased when ffinnem enter in. 
If Earth be pleaaed whene'er ahe low a knave. 
Then mII are pleased since Bonuer 's in bis grave," 

A C. *). 
" Children we are all 
Of one great Father, in whatever clime 
His Providence hath ciwt tlto ^vf^^ of life. 
All tongues, all colours ! Nciti>er after death 
Shall we be aortcd into laii^uagos.*' 

" Beaatiful ialaads ! whore the grrren 
\f hich nature wears waa never seen 
'Ncatb lone of Europe ; where the hue 
Of Hen and heaven in such a blue 
Afe England dreams nut/' 

*' And every hcdffe and copue is bright 
With the quick Aretly's pUyful light. 
Like thousands of the sparlcUni^ gems 
Which blaze on Eastern diadems." 





" Cftn tbe eartii vrheTct tlie harrow 14 dnTen 
The shenf of the furrow foresee f 
Or thou guc« the b arrest for he^veu 
Wbere iron hits entered in the© !** 
These lines were <)uoted br the late Lord Lyttott in his 
paper on The I*Jiutnc* <J Love upon Littratwt and Reai 
Lift. Asov. 

0Dt(fei t0 CorrftfjiaiiQriitf . 

Oh nil communicutiona ahould be writteu the name *nd 
ikd({reaa of the sender, notoeoeasarily for publication, but 
M a guarantee of good fiatb. 

" AiLEKN AiiooK " : " RoBlK Ai>AiB-'*— On tliii matter 
tbe renly to J. T.*a query from Pockliaglon ifl tbat tbe 
air, called by both nainei, ia said to hnre been compoied, 
with tbe original worde^, by an Insh knight, O'Daly, 
who carried off " Ellen the fair " tn much tbe » 
■tyle aa Locbinvnr did Aii fair Ellen of Netherby Hall. 
To the old Irish air Kcreral Kta of worda Lkto been 
written, among them Moore's " Erin, the tear and the tmile 
in thine e^es." But the name Kobin Adair was one of 
an Ixiflh hrm of wiiie-merchanta— Aldridge, Adair, k 
Butler. Mr, Aduir (on ancestor, it is «aid» of Viscount 
Mole?worth) went to Foxhall (Connaugbt) to collect 
money long due. Ail tlmt be got was a song from bis 
boMt, to the air of " Aileen Aroon/* part of which was to 
tbis cifect :— 

" Welcome to Foxliall, sweet Robin Adair, 
Welcome^ &g. 
Uow does Tom Butler doi 
And Jemmy Aldridge, tool 
Wliy didn't they come with you! 

Robin Adair I '' 
Tlie words became known, and were universally aung. 
and when freftb words to the old air were written for 
Braham to aing, the tHJctical name of tbe Irish wine- 
mercbaut wt^ retainecC and 0om« thing more than half a 
century ago tbe higbwaya were harmonious with the 
Iftokadaiaical complaining of^ 

•* What 'a tliia dull town to me ^ 

llijbia AdAir ! 
What sbould I wish to see t 

Robin Adair ! *' 
ViULVCSacA asks for inHmnation about Tetnplo Emmet 
lot contained in tbe following works, viz., Madden'a Lives 
|«*u£ Timet Of tht Unitvd Jtiukmnt: Orattan't Life, by hii 
Mton ; Curran and his Contauporaries, by Charles Phil- 
jlips ; and Tl<e Imperial Diclionary of Vmverml Bioffra- 
Iphy. Fiu>cRgCA adds :— " T. Emmet's life, though very 
■burt, was so brilliant that it seems poa&ible and probable 
"lat much inforniation regarding Inm still exists unpub- 

Wut Mil. F. 0. Stephkks, who in *' N. & Q ," Oct. 10, 
1,1875, answered a question of Epchuoxjii, say whether 
[iftrnd if so, when) a i^ninting of the same artist, Henry 
'Thompson— " Three Children and a Live Robin"— was 
exhibited! F, H. 

0. E— There is a well-condensed account of the Lin- 
colnshire hero, Captain John Smith, tl)e founder of 
rVirginin, in Catcs's Dictiunary 0/ Gtmr&l Bia^rttj^hi/, 
Bora in 167t», be died in 1631. Hia scrviccfi in JElungiiry 
are referred to in the abore account, 

F. P. B.— To thretiten to De-Wit a person wiw, in 
leventeentb century s]angt to threnten lo treat bim as 
^e great John De Wit and bis brother Cornelius were 
'treated by a l>utcb mob in l"i7-, by which mob they 
were barbarously murdered. 

W. P. P.— See Pope'fl translation of the Odyiuif, xr. 
£3; al»ohi6 Humid Uniirt, bk. ii. line llfO. For answer 

to the «e«ond cjuory. see Sbak&peare'a Fint Ptot 
Htnry VI. f Act ii. so. 4. 

TKNPLAn aslu to be referred to an article on Cba 
books tbat apTieared some yeara a^o in one of the cbii 

W- T» M.— Plutapcb'a detcription was referred to by 
our lamented correapondent Ciuttkildkoog in "N. & Q., 
4"' S. vi. 16. 

W. S. T.— Both wftys; but the spelling followed by tbe 
Tivus it tbe more old-faahioned. 

Vera (" The Keya of Peter "') 10 requeated to forwirf 
her name and addreoai. 

T. F. had better send oa the Terses, if he poeaesMt 

a copy, 

W. G. D. FtETCHKR.— We will forward a prepaid 

J. N* 6.— The paper named luia not reached "X. k Q.' 

Editorial Oommunications abould be addressed to *Tlt« 
Editor of * Notes and Queries ' " — Advertiaementa and 
Buftineaa Letters to *' The Publisher "—at tbe Office, 20, 
Wellington Street, Straridf London^ W.C. 

We beg leave to state that we decline to return cei 
municationa which ^ for any reason, we do not print ; 
to tbit nUe we can make no exception, 

NOTES AND QUERIES.— Wanted to Porcrai 

h< flTtfu l)j JOHN FRAXCrS. 9:1, Wellioston StrMt, Stmad. 

i^UEKIES, Not. n. 17a, IBIt, ftnd Index to Vot W, 
THIItD hERIKH. One SbtlllDC eiih wiU be Rltreti hj JOItlf 
FttA NCI."). »^. Welliiiftim Stnet, ^tniuL 

Tht Boak ; or, Pro«Ts»tlaAted Utraotn, I4mo. ISl*— Mmioln «f 
J. T. Serre*, >t«ribe f'lkijitef, Sro. lllS6-l»0cuinent« t« pruve Mm 
f*em» tlif Lefritltnfttel^ttghttfrciftjie Pnkiof CMiiilitflufn!, n. 'jnsrta 

ibrti mot datrd), l^«»-raoiir a Lcitcr to tha E»rl of w _ 

Jpia-LctltT m Lord Cftitler«ii«L. HSIO- Ei«y on iW TrJiBity. »8W— 
Etny in Fftvour or tht nukn of York.- WI1<L1AM J. TllOlU. 

4fl. St. ueanrcB S[itt»re.K.w. 



ANTED, by a Young Man, a SitDATioN where 

ftix Vm,n* Ent^rifiiM iun larse KablLtbing Uouw. at Qeocnl 

Book-liMper. and I'urrvFpoudfUt, would lie of scrvleB. Veit 

nrerenee*.-Ai»pir te X, ¥. Z,. llcan. Adhou k FruioM, B9« rv«c» 

WORKS on TOT SNUPF, &e.— Book- 

Hllert h»Ti;Qff Hi' . Hdu)T. iLt., or MM'Mioci, 

.lournili, or NrvipapcrK o^. i : . h ou tbetatoKt. fct* tarttM 

ti) Tfpori lucb ti> tt»# '.iHice ui i.-uj/a tuBAOUO i'LAKT, 10, L«id 
Nibon Street, LlvcrpooL 




,r»7i I II i .1 I I , 


• It m , ftDdTLj.j.k\ 
I I KS kud rii(«r Int-i ^ 
*. and LlTJi<M;RAPUk 

Orcti* mnd poit free, 

BOOKS.^CATALOGUE, No. 1, Just Ready. 
nFulM) IIANU lloOKN, Inoludiiift Switt'e Norclt. Is 
FfuultirBkru'M IJrM*<. in th« OrlxIbAl I'art*. lar/f p»p«r— Le 
Fl'iwer Uooka.cumplrlr— MumnljrFy»'ii ItoTlji luid Aukt«r{ltM; 
nutnvroQft cjrfra IltU4trftt«d Ifix^ks, tn ii«w and fl[|,« liludtjEU^- 
JACKS^J.N, 101. GrMt Portland Strwit. LvM^iti, W. 

P«rtrmltila Volainci«r t'oUeetloai purobated. 

lOR. Mob, «crri»B* piid to lioadon, 

' nhriMiorf r*MtlflcfttioiJi, Vir*» f.f Totm fend PuhUc 8iiildlnc«| 
UonilVlKliKK-.S fLAN of NWUWICll. mi*. Both perfect. 
It, HLDXA H, Ci'uatr Cbdiaberi, Euter. 



I^'JJfpi^J. ^'^ATL'ITDA 1' JAyCAHrf, W*. 

CONTENTS, — N* 106- 
VCynE9>-4tai SiBofaape nod Lord 'M»tmilmft "Cpltapli nn 
■ r ■ r ilil u" "T n^ 1 1't' - r — * - %t Borne mm\ EliewUere. S2 

A IM «f IfeacUilk Word* Ui«<t bj French Wrilcn, anil 

l» UtU^'s ^kfu^uFiuin. 2^ - Pknllel PossaRea— 
Epitcopekl OinaecratioDs, f!t-i-hrt»t. 
VMftSfer vtth Mr I*ep7i— PftU<¥ * f tb« K^rU of MercU «i 
ITMHwiJ Ifli 1^ HI II ■ I II '■ Arms " ' it Ion in Eiifrlani) 

Id QH,'' as—"* !■ thex« mnyth r the •un ? *— 

«C &VtDiOB--S«I»W L'ttAih of XiOff 

araUfli>-Ctect«diOQie-EplUph iA Cuh«| Cathedral. 37 
Qukla and the Do Brftdrfortltic — >ftTimel 
t/tGminAy. ct>. Orkney, IStuonet« of Nov* 
I7<l7.2!l^0ldiriilt Hiikn— IiirlrAitof <;!iln5' 
,toll*«to»iire-Helfry Bulcs-Jojin Holland -8hell.-y 
ttsrtnieie}-— 1« the Lite of B&rdaey Id GATDArTou- 
r m PisilMrafecttiire ? -Cabinet CoancU, ^. 

■V ■ "«-Jew« in Irelanil. 30-*' Sea- 

tkiwim "Goda ACre"-Tba 'IriMle 

tf fWe^^'v ^»— \.^<j»iv . — Cbulos Wilmot &>«nr««, a 
**imai«MMi t^noa" — "Hard Linea "— Cnwley and Bar- 
1^ FlMBtlfa«. 34 — A PuDoinK Book * ruto — DwaiUioi 
B>U-Rln«eri' Utoratare — Francli Donglaa — 
SlS — Ponnlt of Ueniy Clarke, LL.D, — Mrt, 
fohn of Gatint':! Coat, 3<t— I'oets the niuUrs 
h — lU^ldom of WiKtooQ ' (;>-ll bud FletDyug 
!*• RlybU — Atilhor Wftiit«<i— Whipping 
4ini of Church, 37 — Deao Swift - The Prinoea* 
iV* ^-' ' T»- -^ I' ' Uale-Slr Richard PhilUps 
~«p-f|^ WM an ap«'— Walkiag on 

V>:.< ^'~"A nook and h*li yard 

«flM«i — ^^i^,^, '.i X .../ — " Clriers "— M«*tal Tolucco 

By the deatb of Lord Stanhope the literary 

■-* '^ne of its brightest ornaments, and 

of their best frifndf*. Few who 

ullv, or hnd deiding*< with hrm, 

me genial or kindly trait. 

1 sties was the promptitude 

he uoMwered correspondentd even on 

ct"i. Hnving had octiiHion to cntre- 

lly and other W(io, I Mpeakon 

nence. One instance occurs 

i think tmj he worth a note in 

ing his lordahip^d accoant of the origin 
of Sunday achoob, in The TUslory of 
I from the Paxct of Uiuch i lo tfic I'mce a/ 
vol. viL pp. 333-4 (5th e<i, 1H5S), 1 
on Dct^ember 17, 1869, to aend him n 
'<BO^ <if the (Uiurchnmn')i Shilling Matftiunc for 
Afff^tf 1&6^, contiunin"^ an article of my own 
m&ktm. "Who WAS the Founder of Sunday 
T* aa<l, by return of post, I received a 
nod enclosiUf^ of whicb the following are 

*' Chevening. Dec. 13 (1369]. 
** t>tnr Sir.— I retom to you many thanks far yuur 

and Article. 
" You bftve c«Tt»m1j succeeded in showing that the 

Her, Mr 8tt>clc had at tewt a very prominent shure, if 
not the jprinoipikt, in the foundation oT Suitd»y Scliools. 

'* Pcrnai, B in rettiiTi the occoiiipMiymg very beautifol 
lines niuy not he unwelcomo to you. Slucc Lord Muc- 
nulay'ii d^ath ttiey have br^on published with acMne other 
thiiigu, but dul *ju»te nccamtely. 

*' I reninin, de&r Btr,, 

•* Your very obedient nertnnt, 

'*S. R. Towti*heiid Mayer, Em\ , F.R.S.L." 
(Copy of enclosure printed on half a sheet of 
note paper.) 


WUn WAS bom in Durham 
And buried at Florence. 
(.\.s written out lund prcfented t'» me by the author nt 
A tueetin;; of the Trastee* of tlio Britiab Muncuro, 
May »tb, 1847, Mahuh.) 

To my true King I offered, puna from staiUj 
Courag*^ jiud faith ; Tain t"*ith, und courii>;e vain. 
For hirn I threw laud*, hourjur,% wealth, avrjiy. 
And one flweet hope, whicb was more prixed than they. 
For him I lanjjui'.hcHl in nn alien climo, 
Orcy lift t red vriih norniw in my mntihoodi prime; 
Hear] o»i Lkvemia Sctirgiirs whispering trees, 
And pined by Arno for my lovelier Tees ; 
Beheld each night my home in fevered steep, 
Eiich morning started from the dr>'am to weep ; 
Till GovU ^ihu Mw tiie tried too forcly, gnve 
The rL'stin;^ pluce I itsked, an early i^rravc. 
Ob ! thi>u whom chance le id4 to thin namelesi stone, 
From the proud country which wmodcc mine own^ 
By tboeo white clilTfl I never more must uee, 
By that dear langimgo which I tpak« like thee, 
Ferget all feuds, and shed one English te>ir 
O'er Engltflb du^t. — A broken heart lies here. 

T. B, Macaulay," 

The lines are to be fbnnd in The MisetUantws 
Writinff^ of Lord Mamulay^ vol. ii. p. 429 (Long- 
mtvnH, IHHO), but, fts Lord St^mhope says in hi& 
note to me, they are ^ven '*^ not quite nccurately." 
None of the obituar)* notices of Lord Stiinhope 
thikt I have seen in the didly paper>» mentions two 
little volumes that I believe be bud a grent alfec- 
tion for — Afww/ii'iJU^*, first and second series 
(Miimiy^ 1863 and 1872). The tirst seriea pjwsed 
into a second edition, which is not remarkable, 
seeing that it comprised sevend important original 
papers, such as some letters of Sir Robert Peel on 
the House of Lords and Sir Robert Walpole ; Me- 
moranda by the Duke of Weilinpfton on Marl* 
bontn^h and the Retreat from Moscow ; Lord 
Macj\ulay*8 Valentine (1851) to the present Coun- 
tess of Bcuuchamp ; the origin of the Whig Co- 
InnpB, bine and buif, &c. ; whlkt the second nnd 
3 ' (ion contuini? a curious Ttulian Memoir 

I try Wortley MonUigu ; Correspondenco 
Willi .>ir. Ticknor on the C;ise of Major Andri!" ; 
Corre^t^ndence of Mr, Pitt and Earl Temple ; 
Canninjr's Account of his first interview with Mr. 
Pitt ; Cofrespondence with HfiOam, M. do Bis- 
mondt, Prince Louis Napolecm (Napoleoa Ill-X 
Lord Macaulay, &c. 

Admirers of the charming sirapltcity of Lard 
Stan hope's epbtolary fltyXe, uiv^L «\\ ^W \wisjw ^<fti 



[5* S, V. JAJf. 8. 76. 

inteiiBe ttiiereBt he took in hiBtorical and titerarjr 
matters, feel convinced that a fund of valnaWe 
reaeiirch and origin^] thought lies scattered through 
hia letters, and it ia to be hoped that before long 
it will Bee the light under the editorship of his son 
and heir, the present e&rt. 

BichzDond, Sorrcj. 

The catacombs at Rome have been hitherto 
viewed with great interest, principally on religious 
grounds ; but it ia believed that, for the other 
reaBons now to be ftsaigned, they have not been 
viewed with nearly bo much interest us they are 
entitled to be. And tbifi greatly increased interest 
would uDt apply to the catacoraba at Rome, or 
elsewhere in italvj alone, but wherever they exist. 
A»f however^ the historical or positive proaf, now to 
be founded iipOD, exists, if not altogether in con- 
nexion with the Italian catacnoibB, at leaat t^ a 
much greater extent than in connexion with those 
of any other country, our attention will first be 
more particularly directed to those of Italy. 

The first <iuestion which I would then ask is this : 
Are not the Italian catacombs ancient human 
dwellings, which dwellings, in point of fact, had 
formed what may be termed subterninean towns ? 
The reaifona Bhall now be given for answering thia 
queiition in the affirmative. 

There anciently lived in Italy a people who 
were known by the name of the CiuHnerii. It 
need scarcely be said that the in Cimmerii 
would be pronounced bard at the time referred to. 
Now it is matter of positive history that the Cim- 
merii dwelt " in subterraneis domiciliis." Further, 
the Cimmerii were represented by the Latin poets 
118 dwelling in darkness, " Cimmerian darkne«a " 
was anciently proverbial. This darkness haa 
grently puzzled commentators ; but, if it be viewed 
in connexion with the Cimmerians dwelling in 
what are now termed catacombs, the difficulty 
vanishes, and the explanation is completely and 
thoroughly satisfactory. 

Cavea of natural formation were, it is well 
known, the abodes of the human race in ancient 
times, and, in certain localities, they are still 
used for that purpose. But nalural caves were 
limited in number, and were confined to particular 
localities. When, therefore, mankind increased in 
these localities, if they were still to dwell in csives, 
these ii;»d to be formed arftifici«f/s' under the ground 
or otherwise, Thia implied the careful aelection 
of proper pbcea for the formation of these cave or 
tinderground dwellinjafg. And thei^e underground 
dwellingft had, in the courae of time, and under 
favour;ible circumatancea, resulted in the formation 
'' underground towns, the remains of which now 
•u the catacombs of Rome, Paris, Knd elsewhere. ] 

Accustomed u we are to dwellings above 
ground, we are scArcely prepareil to do justice to 
the merits of underground dwellings. For one 
important things their temperature would be very 
uniform and equal, a condition of easential im- 
portance in the preservation of health and comfoi 
and in the restoration of health. It is now, it 
understood, a fixed point in medical pnictice t 
it is chierty a uniform, and not so much a hi 
tempemture that is most beneficial for consu 
tive and other delicate patients. Uudergrou 
ianitaria^ judiciously used, might be of udvan 
to such patients, even in the present ihiy. Und 
ground dwellings, properly constructed for 
purpose, would also be easily defended ngai 
hostile attacks in very ancient tirac»» a matter 
transcendent importance. It will be kept in vi 
that, in the present day, a very large jnirt of 
populfition live, in point of fact, much uuJergrou 
— I refer to our miners,— and that, it is believed, 
under far more unfavourable circumstances than 
the ancient Cimmerii io their underground habi- 
tations. The Cimmerii would, of course, walk 
about and labour on the surface of the earth duriAg 
the day. 

It may now be here mentioned that it is stated 
that c^itacombs are formed generjdly in a rock 
which is soft and easily excavated, such a^ 
and that they are to be fmind in almost • 
country where such rocks exist. Oiito<omb» ai^ 
to be found not only in Italy and France, but 
Greece, Asia Minor, Syria^ Egypt^ Porsin, and 
other countries ; and they have also been found 
in Peru and other places in South Amcricu. It 
!«omewhat Ringulnr, however, that nn catacoul 
have been found in the United King<lum, at I 
so ftir as I am aware, although cave und und 
ground dwellings are found to have existed to 
great extent. 

It is not disputed that the catacombs Wi 
ultimately used as the abodes of the dead. All 
now maintain is that originally they were used 
the abodes of the living. And, in confiruiation 
the views now submitted, I would quote what 
stated in Chambers's Cyclopitdia regarding 
ruins— the deeply interesting niinM--of the city 
Petra, in ancient Iduraea, It is there stai 
that — 

" All alonp the ftcs of tho rocky wall [forming 
ancient town] »re rows of cave tombi hewn out of 
solid lionp, und ornamented with fiiyadeB. OrtginjUl 
th«j were probably dwcllintca of the li\i«g, not of the 
d«?iid, It su|tpo»iition justiBcd by an examination of the 
interior ; but wben the NAbatheani built the cUjr nropeTi, 
in the Iitt1« biurin of the hills, they were, in alllikelttior 
ttb.indonecJ^ nnd tinen £«t apart aa the family ncputchi 
of those who had formerly been dwellers in tho olaftt 

And so, in like manner, when the Cimmerii. 
who inhabited the cat^icombs, ultimately becai 
dwellers on tho surface of the earth, the cntacomi 






had been, in tbs oouise of iimef converted bto 

I would aobiul that *' comb," the third syllable 
of cAtacombi » eoosecUd with, being derived from 
the &nt ^liftble of, the niime of the Cimmerii ; 
jnch tint irlkble beiog found in various forms 
^Tbe Cimmeni Jire no doubt to be regarded as the 
chiJdi^n of Gomer, the son of Japheth, tneDtioned 
in G«e<^* T. 2, Our Weliib countomeD still 
I'm" * t he Cjmry or Ciimry, that is, the 

f county of CaiitberkDd takes its uie origin. The Cirabri (c=k), 

*i. . T7J i ., i .^fly in Roman history, were 
tht» Bttiut iiwi«r, lite race had other names. The 
Britiili and other European natioos are, to a 
laxgc adail, their descendaDts ; but the consi- 
dctvlMm of these and other interesting points 
mu«t be deferred. Henry Kilgoor. 


in M 

tsrr; ' 



' fiE. 

>an — "Oberon [in a piciurt by Mr. 

^. r>ir »nn costofDO et M beHiite grf-oo- 

>ani dont oa n pu iidiuirer dans 

viiUette«, lo fliaiernc nntique et 

UK — iii. Gautier, Lu Btaux^Arit ta 

vt 53. PArii» Al. L^TjT Frercs. 1857. 

— " Si'^iaient Us p&» aMurd^^ [the AiDcrtcans, 

f (if a war A£ain«t England] egalement de 

irt, par Irur^ crruseura, par leuri corsalres, 

ierco maritime de TAnglo- 

- la Marine Fran^^aiit, i. ; 

.: ,. / ..,-. let, 1874, p. 1S3. 

. — "* Dans lo troupcau de cctte ferme [SctU 

17^1], il naquit un as^neau qui, tans c&uie 

'■ (e corps plus loni^ que tou» les ditreri types 

' Tie « tie plui «e« janiuea titaien t; tr^s-courtes 

levarit cTochac*. Su- lingular itt* le fit en- 

i p-»rticulier», et ce seul indlvidu anormjil 

he 'Je !a race ioutre. ou ancort dea Anglais." 

I La Tfoit RogntM de la Nature, 

- bk direction du Dr. J. C. Chenu. 

und Spenier et Sir John Davia font de 

>. rskble des tflaanciers pros^urefl par lea 

> u4>leau qui rappelle exactemeat la sltua- 

I rief* dt!s petiti cultiviitcurs a<l ipi// de rir- 

:/' — K. de lAVeiejCt Lti Loii da lirehofu, 

Ikur Monde*, 15 Avril, 1875, p. 803. 

L,es babies britanniquei ont dei t«mta de 

tewius cfr tic Iraifie." — Th. Gautier, Lts Beattx-ArU en 

i«re/i«» fol. J. r, 44. 

Ayno.-^" Jc me rendia, lana difforer, aa lieu d« 
rbajnu.tinn, qni iuAt le bagno de l-haacery-lnDO."— 
KkApW Pr<T<«tt, Aftm. (t AvfhL d'uA Jivmvit d* Qualite, 
la. L a, 355. Paris. Leblinc, 1810. 

Ttifs Is. I think, the English haffjiiOf Italiiin 

jsh hoTio, French bain. 

-\'j % pas [in Xew York] de cafes comme en 

tUAd le» ftan, lej buir«tt«». a*>nt nartoat.'*— 

run, L<i A*i"/«?M drs Hues a JVVw Yorh, u. ; Hev. 

«*> tjtut Mintdtit V Jaavier, 1876, p 

. — *' Toe sorts dc BaruMm^.,.ufk de ces ex 

ploHeari de soandale si oommuns aux Etats^Unis.''— Tb. 
Benlion, VAm Dori en A mcriqui, iii. ; JUv, du Deux 
M<mdu, 15 Mard, 1375, p. 331^. 

Beagle. — ** 11 tiom est encore vena d'Angleterre una 
autre espece de chiens ! ce sont les l>eaoUi."—3oi, La 
Vall(^c» La ChasMc it CQurre, il. 6{). Paris, L. Huchette et 
C", 1850. 

Blttcihoot.—*' Les eofans qui font ce metier peu fati- 
gant [bootblackinirl les blacklooti, j (fagnent on salatre 
raifunnabte/'— L. Simonin, Les En/ans Set Jiva u Sew 
Tori; \u tJ8. 

Hlaek-ma it.—" Quand Jo maitre avail paj£ . . son black- 
innii ttuz industrii^s Toisinea qui araieut le droit de lui 
refiiier ou des clous, ou de» tubes de cuivre^ ou tout 
autro element indiapfninble de «a prodoctioo...," — Jales 
Sininn^ La Liberie, 2"" part. ch. iii. t. ii. tH. PariSi L. 
Hacbettc et C*, 1859. 

Blr/ikade runner.—*' Une Joamfie de brume, une nuit 
Eombre, ce seiait sASez, quand bien mume lea exigences 
qui forcent les tiavires de blcous...u rester sous petite 
vkesie, ne permettrsient pas aux hlocktide-runnn'S d« 
r^ussir eti plein jour et devant lea crotaeura ennemis.**— > 
T. Aub«, L'Avenir de la. Marine Fran^., I 182. 

Board (council). — "A la t>no de co departement est 
un board de cinq commisiaires."— L. Simonin, Let Etab- 
list, de Chixrittj et de Correction i Xetn York/ Retue 
de* Dtiix Mondet, 1' Ffcvrier, 1875, p. 636, 

Bfiulder cUy.—" En Angleterre, on a trout 6 dons 
plusieuri localit^s des silex UU)6s sccomps^es d'osse- 
itieus de grands pAchjdermes repofaut lea una et les 
nutrra immedlatement sur le ternan glociaire ancien tUl 
ou honidcr c/ay, '*—Ch. 31artins, Rtcherch^s sur /« 
GLacierit'xx,; lievue dtt Dmx Mondet, 15 Avril, 1875, 
p. 800. 

Box. — ** XJa box ou bureau ferm^ [in the Mtfe-depoelt 
banks at New York]."— L. Siraoaiti, Xew York et l<t 
Socitte Am^ncatne, i.; Jiev. det Dtux Mondes^ \* D6- 
cembre, 1874, p. 060. 

In the SifppUmrnt Littre gives only "box, stalle 
d'ecurio ou compnrtiment de wagon pour uti cheral 

Boif. — " Lflsjcunea Joj/J de New York." — L. Simonin, 
JVev York et la Societe Ambnc, i. 665.—'* Chaque hoff a 
son lit tout mont^."— L, Siraonin, Let Enjant du Ruee, 
ilL 7<5. 

Braiditme {the phyeicinn Jamoi Braid). -^" M. J. P. 
Pbitipg, ajoutant aux idees do J. Braid lea aicnnes 
piopres, a rcuni...daa9 son (?pu»*f Thioriqw <( Pralifi%e 
de BraidiMmtt imprimc en 1860, des fsits, qui tout rat- 
tacht-a qu'ils soient a dea hypotbcaea fort ct^ntcstablea- 
ik'en offtent pae molwa une oitrLme itnportonce/'—L. F, 
Alfred Maury, La Magie et rAatrologie^ 2™» part. iv. 
434. Paris, Didisr et C", 1864. 

Brekotv (hiit ).— " Les htehimi, qui out donnfi leurnoia 
k cea recueiU de loia [the Brchon Lawa], offrent la plus 
grande reascmbLince nvrec Ics druides de la Gaule lels 
que C^>ar noua los fait consialtrc,"— E. de Laveleje, 
Les Lais des Brehon»,787. 

BroKuit.—** En Ecosse et en Irlsnde, ce sent les Elfif 
les Brownitt, lea CUricannetf et bien d'autres g6niea^ 
h^rititra d«R anciena dieux celtes. qui, dans lea tradi- 
tions pujmkirest poraiisont sur Ic premier plan."— L- F. 
Alfred Maury, La Magie et VAttroL, 1-" part. rji. 189. 

Bvggtf.—" Y'll^B vontw.caTalcader au Parc-Cenlral, 
amaxunes infatigablea, ou y courir follemcnt daiiB un 
buggjf qu'ellea conduisent ellea-memsB."~L. Simonln, 
iVew York et la Soc. Amiric., iv. 685. 

Littro has boghti^ and the abbreviation hoc, I 




hanre ni«i witli ho^y: " Le boghey fut attel^ en 
toute httte."— Th. Bailey Aldrich^ PruiUuct Pat- 
fny, viii. ; Ma\ ties Deux Motide^-, V jQillet, 
^874, p. 1U5. 

Buil^.—" BuU'drgs : Whasp. h M. MHedonutti. «t 
Bull, 2- prix, i M, JoUi?et, Exposition d? 1803."— Dr. 
J. CJ. Chonu, Leu Trou Rlgna </e la Naturt, 1804, p. 36. 

See LLttr^, ** Bouledogue," 

BuH'ttrrier.--** Bull-terriera : Tom, Fixette et BdU k 
M. Edouard Delewort. N'ont naa #te expose*.**— Dr, 
J. 0. <JU«im, Z,« Troif JUgMS, 1864, p. 37. 

Biu,—** Lcs omnibus ou tttu/fs, fnfnil1i>reinfnt et U- 
comquptnrnt 1«« htu, desaorvent uurtnat rintermmitblo 
rae «le BroA/Iwi»y [New Yoric]."— L. Siiuonin, jWw Fori- 
e< /o Soc. A meric.^ UL 6S0. 

Henri Gausbejion, 

Ayr Academy. 

{To U contuwtd*) 


There is a remarkable coincidence between the 
two following passages, the one from St. Luke, the 
other from Mua^ua ; — 

*EycreTo 5c 6v r^t XeytiV avruv ravra, (Trripatrd 
Tii vifiir/ (iiUiiniV tic Tou ovAoi* itirtv avTiZ. 

tiKiipia tj K'oiAea y patrrafracrtt (r«, nai fiacTTOt 

pUJt 04 UKOl'oi^f? T(Jt^ AoyOV TOU BCOU, Kttt 

<^vAa<T(ro>'TC9 avror, — xL 27, 28. 


"OA^tos y« fr€ f/jrTet^fTf, *ca2 oAjStof i^ riife fVQTrjp^ 

Vaimpi T y'l ir' lAoj^ct'cr^ fiaKitpTtxr-q. — 138. 

The former passfige from St. Luke's Gospel is 
thus beautifiiUy pura phrased by that truest of 
(L'hrtatian poets, Juhn Iveble : — 

•' Biefjs'd is the vfomh that Hire Him -blea8*d 
Th-i I) 040111 wliei« His lips were prcsa'tl. 

But rnther ble-Mi'd ure they 
Who hear Hii w<-rd nnd keep it wrU, 
The living himnes wlieix* Christ ihAll dwel!. 
And DCTcr [lus ftway." 

/Tymn on Oi^ Amttivcuifwn, 

John Pickford, M.A. 
IS'ewboumfl Rectory, Woodbridffc. 


Anatolian Folk:- Lore. — The following ought 
to be reprinted in ** N. & Q." : — 

**Nenr the wnTMtJe was ii Iftrj^ cfcim of itonM— fttir 
people rcltnioualy added tlieir quotft to tltp heap- it was 
clow to the toino «tf acme !it>}T mnn or cither, jind ^rcr it 
WM a tree thickly hunn wiib frajfrnenta ««f mna, kc, 
▼otiTe offeringH it may be."— Rev. E. J. Dftvi*, vlwa- 
/o/w!a, 80- 

A note adds : — 

*' This rau«t be a relic of «t>ine licathen ciiotom, for 
pure MohMi'medimiura doo8 not «.Ilow such cb^nerTinceB. 
it M, however, common enough in Egypt, and I once 
obttTTed the nme thing at tiie rained Temple of Vr-nuSp 
tt Afkft, on the .^dnniB river, ia the LebLiian. lit iht 
Th**xuand and Que sVuffitf (Lftiie. vol. iii. p. 222) there ii 
a Tcrj pretty anecdote coanected with tbb cuatotu. Mr, 

L&ne, I beUeve, confesses that ho can anign no 
or ori^nn for it. But it Bcema to be a common 
Btilion aroQng»t Muslims that, by tyii^^ nr tiailing a tmoll 
piece uf their gamnentfl to a tree pUnted over the ^ava 
olaome holy personage, they mny free them^elTes froia 
any trouble or sicitnesB that afllict» them." 


TooTHACiTB. — It is remaTkalile thnt the 
Zrsilundera should ascribe n toothnche to the 
cause as do the country people in (Jermany 
the Orkney laiitnders, viz., to the gnawing 
worm. The fact of this belief existinfj in 
Orkney Isles ia proved by a contributor to " N", 
& Q./' !•* S. X. 220, who g^ivcH a charm in common 
use there. A North German incantntton, 
inencing, " Peur-tree, I coraplnin to thee, 
worms sting me" is quoted in Thorpe's Nori 
Myihohgy, toL iii. p. 1G7; and in Shortland^ 
Tfitditums mtd Superstitions of the Ne\(^ 
landerSj pp. 108-110, we read, "The toothache, 
being supposed to be caused by a worm havi 
the fortn of an eel, which eats fur iti^elf a hole 
the tooth, 13 cored by charming out the worm,' 
The following ia the charm used : — 
" An celf a fplny-baokj^ 

True indeed, indeed : true in sooth^ln lootli 

You mmt eat the head 

Of said spinjr-hkck."* 

Grimm, DeuUckt Mytholorjie^ p. 1109, rei 
tbttt the Poles call the *' white people," t. «» 
elvB3 who cause diseases in raen, '^ worms," 

Charles SwAiN.so3f. 

Utghhurtt Wood. 

AifEBicAif Episcopal CoNSBCRATiosa- 
should like to note, a* I hiu^e not seen it 
where noted, that the Scotch threud in the 
ricun Episcopate h by no means so strong 
generally supposed, Tbia episcf>pate is u»ual 
8p<jken of lus if it depended on tbrit of Scotli 
nltofjether for its validity ; but the facts are tJ 
(i t!tke them from Mr. Perceval's list in the A\ 
tolical Stte^iaion) : — 

1. The first American bishop (Seabury) 
consecrated by Scotch bishops. 

2. Thb three next by English bi^hope. 

3. The fifth {Clafrgeit) by the^t four. 

4. Scttbury never aaaisted to consecrate again, 
."i. Chiggett assisted to conaecrate four bis! 

at dilFerent times. 

C. Of these four, two never assisted to coi 
at all. 

7. The other two assisted to consecrate oi 
bishop eudi, tmd in one case the descent meri 
as the con !*ec rated bishop was one of those uLrend] 
mentioned in No, 5. 

8. Seabury's thread, therefore, is to be tiucei 
through only one bishop, and ia of very little im- 
portance coui- pared to the English tbread ; an< 
further, as thero were three bishop.? with kirn at] 




'T ' * onaeroition would h.ivc been valid with- 
.ilL C. F. B, Waruen, ]M.A. 

CitR^cTVA^ Dat with Mr. pKPTS.^The new 

V9 Diary contmuA more detailed 

r^tofore of the manner in which 

[;cAt the anniTersaries of the feast of 

!'■'; ', •In ihK morning to church, where Mr Mills 
tfuuic « tcry g'w4 wmion. After that home to dmner. 
where my wife uitl I mid inr hroLher Tom (who this 
morelof cune to see my wife's new tDaiitle put on, 
which do oletse roe very well), to » ^lood ^houldtr of 
mafcton an<I « cTticken. Aftn-r dinner to church ugaiii, 
m^ wife And I, whei e we had a dull i^eriQon of a airani^r, 
whieh mutli? me Bleep, and io homo, and 1, before tmd 
after «aupcr, to my lute and Fuller's Hiitory [of the 

i.-.*i . t- .1. _ . -^g ^ church, whereat the door 

" I J ^taJ, because thot the eextoa 

Ik' r. a gfM>d f-ermon of Mr. Mills. 

I>iui:d aL k- nits aII bll&ne, and taking: occasion from tome 
faalt in the mtt to complain of my mayd'a sluttfry, my 
^f ,- iir..i I f^ij Quf^ Btid I up to my chamber in a ducon- 
t dinner my wife comes up to tae unU a!) 

1 ' 11, an J the ami I to walk upon the leadfl, and 

tb*rL> >u w. Pen called ui, and we went to his bouse 
and fliiiiped with him.'* 

J. E. B. 

Palacf 4>w Tfrm Gajils of Mkrcia at Kixos- 

wmr. — Til' lif Kingsbury (mentioned at 

Icncth in 1 thirteen milesfixnn Coventry, 

:ir ' vorth. The " ptlace * is close 

I inda on the ver^^e of & steep, 

itt 200 yards from the foot of 

le. It is now a half-rninoua 

,..o or three rooms being in- 

rcat portion of the wall is still 

'iilf>>^p^ the fftmiyard. Portions 

oi ft r^B are viiible on even 

a »til n — the ancient Snxon 

ptUaev, A luediavnl castle, a niAnoT-bouse temp. 

ChirV? f. or IL, and the comparatively modern 

i We saw and explored two '*dnngeons" 

ord wall before mentioned. There nre 

T ' of two turrets at least, and the wall 

^ m ia about twenty feet high. There 

inaina of passages coonectiDg the dun- 

i^» - f lich latter seem to have been cells in 

lii.. it.-^nt of each turret. We talked with some of 

th* rillftgers, and learned that Kinfjsbury ** was a 

moth greater pljico oin e " ; und thia did not only 

rtfer to the posting-days. It is stiid thai the 

ancle tir kfn'-i of Mercia had their biirying- 

pLu^K we were shown a spot near the 

(Arm »^ the pa luce gate stood. Tradi- 

tion RAVn (iv-H iii»ual) that there was anciently a 

jruliUrrAnmn Tmnjrp from the p:dnce— in this 

CM*, to A 'c. This wonld he, T ^'Uppose, 

iDUeh iDor 'han the date of the iwilace. 

We WttPB 'A.h<j ''aaiscM and nights had 

iKJili M«n " ia the old rirmhouac. 

Our guide accounted for there by the fact that " it! 
was a verj' old place, iind there was a i;ood many 
murders done in old times." Is anything knowmd 
of tliis interesting Saxon ruin, and has it ever beea 
thoruuf^hly examined I If Leofric a.nd Godiva 
held their court here, there must surely be somo 
trace of the palace in history, and also, perhaps^ 
traces of the Saxon lords of Mercia, which would 
repay a careful examination of the spot. The 
church is a woful monument of early nineteenth 
century restoration. Among other sins, of white- 
washing, &c., a school-room has been built, of 
ordinary brick, over the south transept, and here, 
1 believe, are kept the monuments described by 
Dui^dale, but none of which I think is older than 
the fourteenth century. Unfortunately, we did 
not know of their being there till after our visit. 
Mary A. M« Hoppna. 

Shaksfe are's Arms.— Some time a^o, a cor- 
respondent of one of your contemporaries made tho 
not!\ble discovery that Shakspeare's arms belonged 
to the class called arms parlanU.^. The *pMr, ho 
admitted, might have been observed by previous 
explorers, hut the correspondent of your contem- 
porary especially plumed himself upon being the 
first to discern the ihake^ which, lie says*, h con- 
veyed by the cognizance "a falcon with his wingf 
displayed," or, aa aonietimes termed, " rousant,'* 
Proceeding upon the oasumption that the^e arms 
were made for Shnkspenre by Gdrter and Claren- 
cieux, he tella us that this discovery at once settteB. 
the question of the spelling; of the poet's name an 
Shakespeare, instead of Shakspere or the other| 
forma. Now, to any one who possesses the slightef 
knowledge of heraldic matters, the idea thai 
Dethich and Camden invented any such rebu^for 
Shakspe&re or his father is jiimpty ludicrous. 
What they did in this and similar cases wa* Ut con- 
(irm and legalize an old traditional coat, and it Ift^ 
difficult to see, therefore, how it cjm possibly afflectl 
the spelling of Shakspeare's nume, either one way 
or the other, for I suppose no one <Joubt8 that the 
word is really compounded of fihak^ and spmrm 
however they may be f^pelled. A good example of 
the kind of arms manufactured at this period mayj 
be seen in the coat granted to Dniyton, who wat 
also novuikomo — A [legaKus in a ^eld azure, gall t^e 
d'eau, with a Mercury's cap for the crrnt. 


•• Phonusciatiov ijr Enoland ix 1726."— 
Under this head Mr, Solly givea a Hat of words 
from Bailey's Introduftton (o the EvqIUU TonffUff 
I72fj (5**" 8. iv. 346). It is a curious fact thiit 
most of these wonls .ire pronounced by the un- 
educated Irish of the present exactly th^i same an 
by the educated Englifh of IfK) years ajro— foti 
instance, the words cnronrry owion, tvin/f, WedniM^i 
day, which ure pronounced **crowner" (this foi 
of the word is fast going out of use), " inian,* 



" vaut " (id its meaning as a cavern or grotto tills 
word 13 so pronouRccd, but the verb *' vanit," to 
Jeap lightly^ is pronounced *' waut"), " Wenaday." 

Many more of auch p;iraDeI forms of pronuncia- 
tion could doubtless \>e produced if occasion re- 
quired^, but they are perfectly needless, as it is 
(jiiite evident from the examples quoted above 
that the assevcmtion which I made in the be- 
j»innini;of this short and imperfect note is per- 
fectly true, namely, that tlie present pronunciation 
of the uneducated Irish ia exactly the sameiui that 
of the educated English of a century and a half 
ji^fn. But the questirm, How if* thi? 'i remains as a 
philolof^ical, Icxicographiad stumbling-block for 
all modern pbiloloi;ists. 

The only explanation that I can offer of this 
singular truth \a that, perhaps, when the Irish 
Ian;iuuge bejjan to be {rencrLilly discnntinued about 
the year 1715 or 1120, and the English to be 
adopted as the languajre of the country, and the 
Vernacular English of that period being pronounced 
fi^ given in Bailey's Dktiou'^ry^ it continued to be 
u?ed in IreUnd without the " iniprovements*' of 
tho modern Englisb, with that tenacity so expres- 
sive of the Irish character. P. G. Cooa^. 
Bftlldghiulerin, oo. Miifo^ Ireland. 


Aristotle, in the Nicfmutcktnn Ethics^ dividea 
nmnkind into two cla^geH, the 0vy.r^TiKUi and the 
€Trt9vff>}TtKtit, the "irascible" and the ** concu- 
piscent/' This division of the ninst acute and 
searching moral analyst that ever lived has been 
accepted by philoso[>beri), approved by divines, 
and confirmed by the rdiscrvatiun and experience 
of the world. Every family attests its accuracy. 
Metif ran^je them-selvea according to it in clas8e» 
l»y natunil attraction- Parties in religion and 
pt.ilitic3 form its gramlf-r developTuent. It even 
jTiichea, nccording to Jewish doctor.'^, into the 
hierarchy of heaven : "The cbcrubiju know mod; 
the serdphiin love most" 

Ovtwi^ anger, blazin^L; Hre, and cTri^i/act, desire, 
uniioulderiDg tirCjare chief motives of buuian action : 
6vfLo^ associated with the hiffliest intelligence, 
€7n$i>^na with the most intense nlfections. 

Aristotle makea uvSpm, manlinefH^ trac courage, 
the virtue of t'l'/^O'? ; trfrnf^ppfrvii^^ temperance, 
ibe virtue of iwi^vfiia. In his 8j*5tem rfi'/io? ia 
chiefly the characteristic of the male sex ; €Tri- 
Ovftta is chielly exhibited in children. 

Aristotle missed neceascirily what I believe to 
be the truth, viz., that Otfia is the original 
chariicteristic of the first nHin, tTriOifiitt of the 
Jird woman. It is to be observed that all the 
Bubsequent varieties of human character are trfice- 
able to the various proportions in which these two 
original specialtiei* are distributed by the mixture 
of the Hexes, There are masculine women and 
there are effeminate mea These are the extremes. 

Tliere are infinite intermediatea. But the most 
perfect man and the moat perfect woman are thejr^B 
m whom the true and original type, according to^| 
sex, prevails without overmastering predominance. 

1 have never seen this stated as a pro|^K»sition^ 
or taken for granted, or alluded to by any writ-er. 
And this fact of my own exten^ive^ but of course 
limited, reading ih the ground of the tentative 
question at the head of this paperj " Is there any- 
thing new itnder the aunl'* 

Herbert Randolph, 


SwisTo?»s OF SwiNTON.—This family had at tl 
close of last century jwaaessed the estates for aboi 
740 years, and during that long period, and 
withstanding the strife* and wwrs at home an< 
abroad, only twenty-two barona held the landi 
The estate wcls first granted to their aticcstor " 
clearing the country of the wild boar, and sul 
seqiiently confirmed by Malcolm Canmore for 
assistance rendered by another ancestor in 
recovery by that king of bisi throne. This ehai 
is one of the first gmnted in Scotland. The fil 
baron died in IStH). His tombstone- hI ill, or 
any rate till recently^ extant— bears the inscription, 
" Hie jacet Alanus Swintoun miles de eodeni.*' 

Seth Wait. 

Straw Necklaces. — The straw necklaces, 
collars, which are mentioned by EraBuius as bei 
warn by pilgrims, were the cause of Bever^d not 
in the First Serieit of " N, & t^*.,"' but their wean 
is yet to be explained. In the new edition of 
late Mr. John (iough Nichola'a translation of 
FUfjrimfifjcs, the following not* occurs : — '' Thi 
allusion I am unable to explain, sxb I do not fim 
such emblems eJHewberc mentioned." '' N. & QJ 
has now .1 jDUcli wider circulation thfin in it 
youth. Sume of its readers may have hit upoi 
something that explains the use of these straw] 
ornament s. 

It is useful to notice corrupt words and forms 
words when they appear* Newspaper readers ha^ 
long been fwmiliar with nheatiy though the prop 
plural is undoubtedly whaif. I have to-day, 
the first time, met with strmcs used in a wron^jj 
manner : — 

*' There wat n clause in the lease ta the effect that 
Mratcs were to lo curisunjcd on the preminea.'' — j 
Mercury, Nov. 12. 1875. 

The plural of at rate is Miraws; but when the word' 
ttmic is used not to represent the Rtem of a grain- 
bearing plant, but a bundle, heap, or i^tack of such, 
sterna, it 1ku5 no plural, or if a plural it have, it is-j 
atratc as in the singidar. Anon. 

r)E.\TH OF KiNu Charles II.^Tn reference to' 
Dairy mple'.s Mmimirs of the RevoltUwn, Woaley' 
says in his Jmtnutl (vol. iii. p. 458, ed. I8C4) : — 

** He cordialtj believes that idle tale which Kin^ 
Jamei put^lJAhed concerning Father Huddleaton's giTin^j 

!?»8.V.Jax. S.Tfi] 



King (Jboj-leii eitrtint unction. My elde&t brother oakcd 
Lailjr <>^[tilM.n.-- . i.certiiiig tlii«. * Sir/ eaid »lie, T 
never ni tho moment the kin;? was taken 

ill till "Ut of his botiy, and I aver that 

tieilhttk^ rnijicr n Mf i.i irHtoH HOF ftby priest CAinc into tbe 
liOOM lUI Hi« d«&tli; ' 

E, H. A, 

■Ckktkxart."— In these days of centeonial 

' !■: Jin ortho^rnpher's eve la offended 

' -lice of thia mode of speliinnf. 

uiuif-fijv iiua V 

ijicnology require '' centenniiry.*' 
S. T. P. 

tW# anal ftqUttit eorret]>ondcnt«i desiring information 
on liMiiilj m&tMn of only private interest, to aflix their 
OUMi tlld liddremei to their rjueriefl, in order that the 
UMWin smy be addressed to them dir«ot.] 

CiTARTEiiHorsE. — I have wished to send some- 
4hing fr»r the Christnuis number, but have not 
A time to do so ; but lately, on reading nn 
int f)f the old and ncv¥ fuundation of tlie 
*^' 'p, feome of the quaint names and 

^ it induce me to send, in the form of u 

»|ijet7\ A note or tvro. 

In the account of the Hospital, am it vrm first 

' Ung is *'Fop Weakly Beitvon*." 

. ord mean beverages ? I conclude 

uirf giving a list of recipients, it suing 



1.1 I jctiaml BeaTori !— Weekly, xx»iii/. \U 
ot. ; ftAtly, M.ra',xx3.iL xviiii. j\d. ob." 
It fu^luw^ on with a headmg, "For exceeding 
dayi," uni\ gives a list of them as numbering — 

-TniM.f iiir-.n exceeding dayi, namely, Ckn'HMni 
^' . .S'i, John, tHHOcenU', N*%o Y(ar$, 

J """, Shmrf Sunday and T1usda^f, 

i^ '''■"'-■ /, EatUr Day, J/ira 

*^ ' ndaif, Alnnday anil 

T , All ^iHt*\Fi/(h of 

StfPftn^'Tt, «i»l j'icffijiA tf( JJKtmif€r. AmmountiDK in all 
t4> %\inU. ix$. iind." 

Wku were King*9 and QneenV Days, and wm the 
li'th of I>ei:rnjbcr the day of tbe foundntion of the 
H • ■ 

the rules for the beliayionr of the 
' iifen " of the chnrtty is one tbat infers 
L^ dayg it was customary to sit down to 
jiti w I Jj your bat on, for it nms :— 
All the poor Brethren, and other the Inferior 
rern nii 1 Memtren of the Mid Hospital now being. 
rc88ors that shall hereafter nt any time be 
■hcAr r^^Atnfl, sbnll give dutiftil Aevereiice 
' Tor the time beiner, where- 
in his preocmce, or when 
- f tbein, or any of thera 
Uiiti, they thali at And before 
'icoTer<d» not presuminc. i*hilst 
to put on their Jlat« (tj'nfpt it 
rri a< UtHHrrond ^upptt')," he. 

41. «t* .. u-Uici it was cuslomary to sit 



down to meals covered f llie order is dated " Per 
Ordinem, 24 Febrmini, 1G22." 

Another order of Feb. 26, 1622, is mthor n 
quaint one : — 

"??oneofthe gaid poor Brethren, or other the niid 
Inforiour Officer*) and Membcrfi «>f the said Uogpitnl, 
shall wear any weaponi, long hair, colonn-d boot*, apiirs^ 
or any coloured shoep, fciithers in their htiU, or auj 
Ru'Stan-like or unseemly App*f el, but such a« becoineS' 
Ho0pttabmen to Mcar." 

In Thoma^ Sutton's, the founder's, will, dated 
2nd Nov. — proved 4th Dec, 1011 — is sn ileiii 
which seems a rather curious way of payitig a 
legacy : — 

" And wlicras Mr. John Oardintr, brother to my late 
wife, by his last Will nrid Toiitament, did give unto A »n# 
D^tdl/1/, now wifo to Hir Ficincig Pojihanif one hundred 
pounds to he pnid to her at the day of her marriajjo, the 
■Jime hundred ponnds was and is paid hy mc, at or 
bef >re the day of her marriage, vii. In a Chain of Oold 
bfiitif fourscore and serenteen pounds ten »litllin(;9 in 
Ooid, and fur the fajiluon paid to Master Padfwtt, Gold- 
smith in London, fifty FfiiniMga, which compleata the 
huinlre'l pound** f^r the which, amonget other thlnft 
which I delivered in tniat, I have do acipiittance. " 

D. C. E. 
5, Tbe Creseent, Bedford. 

Epitaph in Cas&el Cathedral.^ 

*' Mileri i^Ia^Tath Archiep. Ca^h. ad viatorem carmen. 
Venerat iu Dunam priino sanctisstmaa oHm 
Pntricius no«itri gloria nrjagnfi «>oli. 
Huic egri Ruecedens, utinum tarn tancttu ut ille, 
Sic Duni priujo tempore pnesul oram. 
Aiiislia Tuhtra decern se<\ post taaseeptra colcbam, 
Principibu* pl«oui nwrte tnnnnte tuis. 
Hie abi aum potltiu non sum, sum non ubi non 6ttm» 
Sum ncc in ambobua sam nee ntroque looo. 
Deus e<rt qui me judicnt 1 Cor. i^. 
Qui fltftt cjircat ne cadat. 162i;' 

I take this epitaph from a paper in a late 
number of tbe Guardian (Oct. 6), *' Roimdubout 
from Dublin to Ca^hel, No. 11." Many years o^o 
I copied the eighth and ninth lines from tie 
monument, reading sal in place of tbe second nrr.. 

Miler Maj^th was first a P'rjincifican friar, and 
bid been appointed Bishop of Down by Pope 
Piui V. Afterwards bo becfime a Protestant, and, 
in 1570, was made Bishop nf Clojtjhef, and then 
wa*? elevated to the Archtrtabopric of Ca<*hel, 
which he held for forty-two yertrs.* His cha- 
racter is rather roughly handled by Mr. D. Mac- 
Oarthy in his Lift and Letters of Flcrmc^ Mac^ 
Vaithif Mor (London, 1867). On the epitaph he 
remarks : — 

** The Itflt two years of hii life lie fpent in bed, whrre 
it ploaned him to eompow on epitaph, which in duo time 
wa<i to be, HI " jrnved upon hi« ujonumeat. It ii 

itself a rflfit /t^renniH^, of his erudition and 

the subtlety ' .-^ »*. No learned man of hu own 

daj, no onK <luriii.K the two and a half conturies that 
haVe paasod •ince, ha» been able W expound the meuntng 
of thia enigma" (p. 431t). 

* See the AhJiaU of IrtUnd (Dr. O'Donovan], vol vi. 
p. 1908, note, 



LB'^aV. Jaii.8,76. 

The difficulty of whicb Mr, MiicCarthj speaks 
fiepius to be found only in the eighth and ninth 
lines. The fifth refers to his haiing been Biehop 
of Down ; the sixth states that be bad been 
fifry years a Protestant bishop, from 157<i to IC20. 
The B€veDth line, " Prinoipibus phicui marto 
tontiDte tuis," can be expbiine^i by the fact of the 
wurni supprt he gave to the English Government 
during the Irish wars in the reign of Queen Ebzii- 
beth. Perhups some contributor to " N. & Q," can 
"expound the enigma" in the eighth nnd ninth 
ILnea. E. M. Barrtt. 

Scothome Vicarnge. 

Bamborouoh Castle and the De Brade- 
PORDKS,^ — I shouhJ be much obliged if any unti- 
quiiry, versed in ancient tenures, would inform 
me. from the followinjif extracts from the ntitionul 
records^ what connexion the family of De Bnide- 
fonle had vvith Barabornuj^h Castle in early times. 
In the published Calendars of the Inqnisitiones 
Past Mortem (which are a very brief sumiiiary. or 
sort of index, to the matter contained m these 
records), under the names of several neueriitiouH of 
the above fauilly, appear " Bradefonle maneriuni " 
iind " Bumburgb Cjistruni,'' as if the aiatle, like 
the tjumor, wa* held in fee by tliem (as tlie* latter 
certaiQly was). I am told^ however, that this in 
not a necessary inference from the matter eon tuined 
in the original recordft, which I quote below ; and 
I shall be glad to know what office connected with 
the castle, or tenure of it, it implies. In an In- 
quisitio Post Mortem on Alexander de Brade- 
fordo, ** ttmp, Henry II f,;' it is j*aid of him, a» of 
several other generations of the same fiimily, that 
he paid annually " ad wardam Castri de Buniburp," 
and then follows "et od cornaj?iura xiijf/. et sus- 
tinuit quandum domum comp«tentem infra pre- 
dictum ciiHirum de suo proprio et ha'c predicta 
f;vciet berea ipsius." Wu^ a ca-^tle guard or fmy- 
tiicQt towards it a special ciRce, or was it a thing 
cotatQon to all tenants i?t capitc who held property 
of the CrowQ near any castle ? The office, however, 
8t4ited in the latter quotation from the Inquiaitio 
post Mortem above mentioned "sustinuit qiiun- 
dam domiim conipetentem infra predictum caatrum 
de ?!U0 proprio," &c., must, I fancy, have been 
special to Alexander de Bmdeforde with regard to 
the castle, and apparently hereditary. But what 
was it ? Ad exi)lunation will much oblige. 

SAMpEt Roper, Ac.— Anthony h Wood, in 
his Fasti (ii. 8, ed. 1721), state?! that Sanmel 
JRoper, Esq., the friend and patron of Sir WiUiani 
DuLjdale, was "cousin Kormau to Richard Scawellj, 
who had married his (DugdaleV) sister.'' 

I learn from the Heralds' Visitation of Warwick- 
Bhire, taken in 1619, thiit Richard Sewall^ of 
Coventry, married Mury Dugdnle, and by her was 
father of three diuightera, Margurtt, Mary, and 

Elizabeth, then respectively aged four, three, and 

In the same Visitation, William She well, of 
Coventry, is stated to have married Anne, one of 
the sisters of Richard WafrstatTf, living? 1G19, And 
a Heni7 Sbewell was one of the "supervisors" of 
the will of Alverey Greisbrooke or Greysbrook* 
of Mtddleton, co. Warwick, gent., dated Sept. 

I wish to know how Dugdale's broth cr-Jji-lai 
was coiisin german to Samuel Roper. The lattc 
was the son of Thomas Roper (of the Heunor, 
Derby, family) by Anne, one of the dtiuj^htera 
the above-named Alverey Grcysbrooke. Wl 
Richard She well's mother a Roper or a Gi 
brooke 1 

Alverey Greysbrooke had three other daugbten 
unmonied at the date of his wilt, viz., Margaret 
Prudence, and Mary. I do not know to whoi 
these ladies were married, but it may be that oi 
of them espoused a She well, aud became 
mother of Dugdale'a brother-in law. 

H. Stdnkt Grazieuroor 



OF Nova Scotia, created 1707. — See list 
Baronets of Nova Scotia, in Beotsons Politic 
Ind''x, 3rd edit., 1808, vol. iii. p. 1806- Can 
reader of '" N. & Q." refer me to any bistorjr 
these baroBets, or any accouut of the Ci 
family of Gairsay { None is to be found jn 
fair's Bnroiiftftfj€- of tkoiland in lb 11, from wl 
one mi»;ht infer they were then extinct, yet tl 
are not in Burke's Extinct BaronettKjc of iicotl 
(1844) ; while in Lodge's Baronehuje (attached to 
his Fctrage), from 1832 to 1842, appears *' Sk_ 
William Craigie of Gairsay, Orkney (S.), 
1707/' but no date of birth or of successioti 
in Dod's /'f^Trt^f, &c., of 1841, is the like entry. 
To Renduli pnrish, according to John Brand's de- 
scription of the Orkneys in 17tH (six years befott 
the baronetcj')* *' belongs Gairsiiy. a little pleasao^ 
isle, wherein lives 8ir (sic) William Vrai{f (j"* 
of Gairsay," probably then a knight, and posai' 
afterwards first kironet. 

In FulhirLon's GoMtker of Scotland, 1848, 
" Gair^," it in said :— 

" Close by the aoulh ahorc atatid the reniaini ©f 
house, Trhicb seema fnrmcrly to btve po^a«ned 
degre ■ of oleganoc and frtrengtb, and vran tbe rei 
of Sir Wiiliam Craiffie aud ttlhors of that iwm« 

The registers of Rcndall are unfortunately 
With the exception of these two Sir Wf 
Craiyies— one of whom was etriavdy beforo 
baronetcy was created, and the other probal 
long after it was extinct— I can find no 
of the family. There is none in Nisbet^s Utrahli 
cor in Doughis's Baronagium. Is there any 

re " Sir J 


5 entrv^ I 

e»8.V. Ji«.8,7«,] 



lory of ibe Orkneys giving iiu account of the pTin- 
cipal piopdeiots there, aad of tbeur genealog}' ? 

G, E, a 

Or.l> JntSB RjsTORT.— I am deairous to knoir : 
1, Whlt&«r the Irish people possessed nt nny time, 
befew or after the introduction of Christittotty 
into Okt blind, a system of mythology. 2. If so, 
can /«! d'tnct me where to look for an account 
llieno/f 3. If thpyposMBscd nothing in the shape 
of • mythology higher than their fairy belief, cnn 
JOQ teU Die where t^i look for a complete account 
of tile orli^in, rievelopment, and nature of belief in 
Iboie spribei ? 4. I>o you know of any book or 
booki eaatutning a broads clear, and comparatively 
impartul A&alreis of Irish character 1 

I Infie mta sorue of the writinj^a of Carleton, 
CfoktT, Kennedy, Keightley, Griffin, Moore, Edge* 
worth, and others, but have not been able to find 
IB thena Anything very aatisfactory on the points 
nuicd. Wh. H. Ltons. 

&A Tenth Street, New York. 


I heard the other day of a person who had a 
jiifU&it of Gainsborough for sale— n niiniufure said 
io h»ve been executed by himself, and to have 
flOBie* fmm some raembcr of the family of the lt»to 
ifoha Constable, Can any one inforin me of a 
pofliHit in miniature of htm, antl in wbo»e 
ili*n it now is? Falchtr speaks of ono 
]< y of this class, and at the time of his 

t» > it was in the possession of a Mis^ 

Ulatke. Any information will oblige. Nemo. 

EELrnr Rules. — We hare had a great deal 
sIkriI not ringing in spur and hat, but I do not 
muvmbcr any reason being assip^ned for the 
pobibUi^^n. Wad any danger to self or fellow^- 
ctfigers likely to follow so doing ? P, P. 

Jomc HoLT^AXD. — Who was John Hollimd, 
■thor of (^ntrinyio, f — Liverpool, printed nnd pub- 
Hihed by D, Marptes & Co. ; London, Ham ikon, 
JUams^ Co., 1835. St. Swithin. 

c%,.,,,..Y — I iiave a copy of an old romance 
^ 1 lowing: title : — 

4. i>>fne; or. the RoncrQcian : k Komance. Bj 
s Gmtleman of tbe UtiiTenity of Qsfurd. Loiidou : 
J Stockdide. l&ll." 

Can any r«*ader of *' N. & Q." inform me if it 
•M written by Shelley? I have an indistinet 
TKjollection of having seen a statement to that 
fffect Mjnewbete. R. K. D. 

\ViLKi3EsON* Baro^tetct. — Was there ever a 
WjIIliiu Wilkinson, Physician to the Lord 
L»t!it#iniint of Irthmd, nnd by him created a 
,hwt*ni'l If I have been referred to Burke's Eziincl 
umfU^f*, second edition (by a gentleman since 
ri> dj, for confinna-tion of this fact. I happen 

to possess that very work, but T can find therein 
no mention of a Wilkinson baronetcy. 



SHIRE OR Prmbrokesrirk? — Ta^niio Pap. Nick. 
/r., A-D. 1291, says, "The Abbey of Btirdesey, in 
the diocese of Biinjior," P"o/or Ecdcna^tictu^ 
temp, Henry VIIL, has, " The Monastery of thft 
Blessed Mary of Bardesey, in the deanery of Llyn^ 
in the county of Crimarvon, and the diocese of 
Bungor." On the other hftnd, tradition saya 
Bardsey is in the county of Pembroke. I visited 
tbiR iitland in 1867, and in converHnticn with th^ 
inhabitants found that they and their ancestors 
considered Bardsey to be in Pembrokeshire, jisMjjfn* 
ing as a reason somewhat about the flow of the 
race. I am told there is also a tradition in Pem- 
brokeshire that Biirdiiey is in that county, and in 
the parish of Hasguurd. ' 

Aaron Roberts, M.A. 


Cabinet CoaKOTL. — In what year was this term 
first used, or in what book is the phrase first known 
to occur ? Edward Scott. 



(!y^ S. iii. ICH), 313, 398, 414, 438,478, 4D4, 500.) 
The following correspondence, printed in the 
Melbonme ^-irr^Ms for Aujjnst 3 and 5, 187o, may 
int^*rest your correspondents. In any case it will 
*«erve to show the popularity of ** N. & Q,," and 
the prompt ness with which questions of a literary 
sort are noted and queried by residents in thin 
fifty-year-cLi city :— 


" To the Editor of tbo Ar^fV*' 
"Sir,— Yfmr London corrcapmrlcnt, in the 'Town 
Ta'k ' printed in Satwrflay't WHtio, roo'itiont an early 
poem of Tentiy^ion'i hiring been printed for private cir- 
culHtion in his youth, but fuppn-psed <s«yB toe Wnrftl) 
' in con»eqiience »if it-« ncfpticril npir»iii.Ti9,' It would be 
difficult, I think, to condense a InrKer amount of literary 
wickedne^n into the lama cnmpHH thati ihi^ quotation 
from the Wttrid contnins. Erery r<de of right, every 
carii n of criticism, is by imphcNtion violated ifi it. For 
her« are the facta :— 

"i. The poem in quP«tion (Siippotfd Ccnfijn'oM) 
was printed in the fir.t of Alfred ToTmysm'i neparatc 
workg. 1 once po^neiired thut precioua Tolume for sotne 
TBiiTa, but unluckily knt it to » literary friend, who, 
Wii g an expert in book keeping, of course nerer re- 
turned it. 1'b<i title of the Tolunte is ' Poemt, chiefly 
LyiicB'j by Alfred Tennyion. London: Effingham 
Wlldcn, lvS30/ The frtmmi review of it. written by 
John Wilson, in to be found in BfackiDoo4i for May, 1S32. 
"2. There wa» no printing for private cirraUtion,and 
no iup()re«KTon, then, in the case at all. The poem was 
a« fjurlv puMinhod as was the niatchlate Mariana, the 
gurtfootu R^odlfctiont of ihe Ar^hian NiqkU, or that 
mournful wjiil of Oriana, rMpecting xrhicu t^^Ti. 5<iV\\k 



[P» 8. V.Jill. 8, TO. 


WiJson wrote tliat it vivls • perhaps the mont beautiful of 
Alfred Temijsoii'i composition?," and which cerlaiulj 
never Tvas excelled as nn iiintatiou of the ancient h&Ilad 
Btyle, not cTcn by iSurteea'a Jiarthmm's Dtrye or Misa 
Eliiott'B FiowfT* of thf Forut. The tlireo yiieceB of 
TenayBon'fl Just named >vere all inoluded in his firat inde- 
pendent publication. 

" 3. The SttfjfK'sed Conftni&nd were no more autotin- 
graphical than the Two Voices, which wonderful poem 
wai an amplification of the other. Like all young poetn 
And all youthful arti^U, Tennyson KiRde many rough 
«kotche« at first, which he aubaequently wrought up into 
filiiahed tvorks. Now, the sole rc'ison why these Con- 
ftuiont wore not preflerved as an intej^ral portion of the 
poet'ij; standard works wan because th^y were auporteded 
by the consumnmte performance. Tlio implied charge 
as to the auppre-^sionj I repeat, ia therefore jaat a» falae, 
juft at unfuundcd, bb chat iniplied in the statement about 
priTftte circulation- 

" 4. The hiighef^t effort of geniuB ii achieved in creating 
new types of character, new moods of mind, and so de- 
picting them as that they shall seem expressions of the 
poct*«, or draTnati»t'fl» or noretist's own indiriduality. 
ThiA is the SbakNpeannn range, culminating in Hamlet, 
and the Alii tonic, culminating in the ^!atan of Paradite 
Lost. It ta treason tn genius to identify the creator in 
these cases with his crealioni'. It is to sink Sbakipearo 
to the level of Roufiaeau, Milton to the level of Byron. 
Such treason to genius is the literary crime perpetrated 
by the World in Tennyson's regard. But the author of 
the T*co VoieHf and still more of the immortal In Mi- 
mttrHinit 11 unaayallable on any such grounda. 

"5. Ab to Gray. The writer of the 'London Town 
Talk' seems to be utiaware that the variation§ in the 
first M.S. of the Ehi^v ha^e been comTnon property for 
all studftita of EnKlish literature ever since Maaoti ptib- 
lighed his edition of Gray's priceless poems. These 
variation* are all set forth in Mitford 8 (the Aldine) 
edition, a very common V(4iim«?. To me it has. always 
seemed a fact nnaccoun table that the omitted stanzas — 
Gray waa! painfolly over^fajstidious in resj^ect of bis own 
compcsil ions— are not now included in all the printed 
copies of the EUi/y. Could eloquence surpass— could 
loveliness of poetical expreasioa transcend — these 
Btansas, for example 1 — 

*' ' Bark ! bow the sacred calm that brrathes around 
Bids ever? fierce tumultuon* passion cease ; 

In still B^mall accents whlapering from the ground 
A grateful earnest of eternal peace. 

Him have we teen the greenwood aide along. 
While o'er the heath we hieJ, our labour done. 

Oft m the woodljtrk piped her fkrewell song. 
With wistful eyes pursue the setting sun. 

There icattered oft, the earlieii^t of the ye»r, 
By hands unseen nre showers of violota found ; 

The redbreast lovea to build and warble there. 
And little footsteps lightly print the ground.* 
—Yours, kc, Davis Blatil 

•' August 2." 

"TMriTTBox Aim Grat. 
* To the Editor of the Argut, 

"Sir, — I have read with interest your London corre- 
■p<mdent*8 reniarks concerning Tcnnyi^jn and Gray, and 
Mr. Blair's obscrvati'ins thereon, 1 venture to think* 
however, that both gentlomen may be mtst&ken — your 
London correspondent about Tennyson, and Mr. Blnir 
about Gray. 

** 1. I believe that the ' snp pressed poem ' of the Lau- 
reate wto not that one quoted by your correspondent, 
and so ably defended by Mr. Blair. It is quite beyond 

question that Tennyson withdrew — na Mr, Blair suggests 
—the sketch when he had completed the picture. Th« 
Suppoied CoH/usions were swallowed up in the Two 
Voictt. Among a bundle of jiapers sent to nie fromi 
London by the last mail wag a Fi'jaru, Fro^oi it I^ 
extracted the following advertiiiemciit ",— 

" ' Early Work by the Poet Laureate.— A poem of 43 
pages, ©(ItitU'd Th* Lovtr's 7"tttt, written by Alfred 
Tennyson at thi' ago of 19, aad withdrawn before publi-| 
cation, 19 for sale/ 

A private letter received at the Mme time informed 
that 'some excitement * had l»eea created ammig lltcnuy| 
folk by the an notjin cement of the existence of ' A Collega 
Poem' by Tennyson, of an erotic character.' The' 
announcctiieut, however, was by many people believodl 
to be untrue. I cannot but think that your Londonj 
correspondent has been misled by this report, and " 
quoted the wrong poem. .... 

" 2. As Mr. Blair very properly says, ' the variational 
in Gray's Klaj^ are nil set forth in MitfonVa cdition/J 
and the charujing verses which he quotes are 'commoo 
property fnr all filudctit-* of English literature.' Bat 
there are other verses attributed to Gruy which are notl 
printed in either Mason's or Mitford's editiuti, but whicbj 
are set forth in that literary Bcrnp-book, AatM afi4{ 
Q u tries. T bese te rses are ^— 
"* If chance that e'er some pensive Spirit more 
By sympathetic Musing!* here delayed, 
With vain, iho' kind enquiry shall explore 
Thy once loved H»uut, this long dainerted ihade.* 
This stanza has eviilently been improved into— 
•' • For thee who mindful of lb' laiihonourcd dead 
Dost in the«ie lines their artles.<) tale relate; 
If chiince by kindly contempUti^m led. 
Some kindred spirit shall enquire thy fate,' 
—which originally stood as follows, atii is quoted b] 
Mason : — 

" ' And thou, who niindful of th' unhonourcd Dead 
Dost in these notes their artlasa tale rebite, 
By night and lonely conlentplation led 
To wander in the gloomy walks of Fate* 
Another verse, on the authority of Dr, Doran, is laid 
have been published in the first edition : — 
"'Some rural Lais with albconquering charms 

Perhaps now moulders in this* griiHSv bourne ; 
Some Oelen^ vain to set the world in iirms. 
Some Emma, dead of gentle lo^e forlorn,' 
A correspondent «*f ' N. & Q/ (G. B., Chester), wriWnl 
in the ia^ue of that periodical for May 22. says of thf 
stanaa, ' It is not fouud in ^Maaon's noteSt and is of vet; 
doubtful autbeoticlty. It ia not consistent with tl 
dignifvcd tone and language of the rest of the pneni.* 

■' Mr. Blair is rarely mit*tfibn when he speak* aboi 
books, but I venture to submit that tbe^e lines, or soiu 
of them, are realty the newly discovered * rariationt' 
spoken of by your correspondent*— Yours, kc.j 

"Majicus Cl-vrkjs. 
*' Tkt Pablic Library, Aug. 3." 

Marcus Clarke, 
Publfi: Library, Melbourne. 

Jews in Ireland (5"" S. iv. 268.)— There is 
plac€ on the south-east corner of White Sti 
Cork, now built over, whieh ia said to have beei 
the site of a cemetery once used by the Jews, 
the last century there were many J^ws in Cork , 
they were employed by the merchimta, who ex^ 
ported large quantities of provisions to the Wei' 

It*. S.'NJ 



liT ^ r>lIow*mtf, from the Lctter- 

iro, formerly emJnfnt iner- 

V in I he possession of tbut 

Mr. Henry Franks*, will 

lit*: .i^ti<- ou tliisjiuUject : — 

JttQ., BelTaflt 

"Oct. 12. 1771. 

m'uh jours of Iho Ttb, ajxl obutrve 

§m (ll« 'iohn* Uiitt.r nl 3' qtiality is nt 

*»., i^. 8h ' oreacb kind, und 

ooirt emu 1 mttke up f«.r y^ 60 

unrt lU-e tv.l ; i '. "<n :tq Hu'lurks. but 

■pWtJiat VMiir -. . ". . :../ 'In- :.■!!, vcd. I 

fli0 04xr Jev> l'.yt.i.»i'T ui. 'ir r,,.- -.i I mon, but 
I ber will t>ut gifc a ctTtir.'-iitr. [ii it'ji], I »m 
^oobtfnl if Ht\r cert f: • i- n • uy. I 
^ a f'^*^ 'itmi'D fa i» Jttv hi Jiitiiatra 
o«rl iiftil no cNMiiplHint, Rum ia 

i Aft - : ^^ uf an tuldiU(>n»l duty of 6ri. 

We iiuic ricil jtbcnrc 24.HJ nunchoona here in 
\ert htuid* for saJle, tUercfore dituk it tuust 

owing, from Bnxtorfs %n<»j7o^ Judaim, 
ri., ** De peroria Judnici coaiestiane et 
?i^ Ettfiil 8vo,, lot) I, muy be read 

D ti the passage above reliLting to 

r ' ;— 

^ u'iAsis An ullo atilmftli edere, 

b -^-ns ft dirisafl, quodque ciburn 

kju, i^; V^-st-n et 0?e«. UuUe non eduat 
|bn>ctilo«« PorcoH, 

|j „ ., -.!..„, r-. -., . .^5 ^gji habent squnmaji et 
» s ct similes ; pttcea Kibi 

It I*-' COS Occident. 

» 'Uinea ftve« rftpaccf, et 

I'll CI LcVitici ciipite 
.... vumeduut, qiiii; nb aliit 
B* illoniiu rel TiLfi4 culinariiJ!, 

I fti^ri potest ut illu nsurpulA 

» rrj. Bminn, Oriura tel 

f": - - . , , if, iii. 17, »mji€tH arlipnjt, 

mywtnfm nan cmn'dtii*. Neque ot Am ArtTium 
L Unde maZTto ttudio, et sccurKte, oinhem 
nrrram fomoris ab animjxlibui rnactaiido 
ct -ntiiM cruj-a.-*. nrcru Mactationcm, ad super- 
Ti -ant Judwi, ct nrngnjo artis 

^ t to, leu, recte mactare posse. 

uui .TiacUi^i ' ■ 1 pctn'jt ei CO, quod Deut. xii. 
fC«0tr ■■'.■ lobtutttis.ct dcpccuJibus 

I ttbi i'uti. i,ij?, yrnx Tri«3 qucmAd- 
K?tpi tibh 

Dnt, coDtineri pneceptam genemle, qiiando 

)»i «t wmfi'';' "' filei Tero ejus Leges lion 

I innut, ^\. Q^ttMbdmodnm prtecfpi 

•libt. A'^ : legitar D«ui tp<*cinJtft 

UOdfrtA M«'iLk d' disac ; Itaquo seniaB hctrum 

ft. QitiniW( tiii profctpi ore tfhu^ in 

\; o&dr eft ex Lcg« Orali di^ceuda ot hitbendn 

WUm Iwnc diicir, p«r aliquot annoa perito 

Sti a^feMC debet ; tot Tcro tanltHque rw eit 

>« ip*dalc« enim librt hue 

\i fktpeeta nemo perfect*- 

w t,.^>*^ 3'.>*^'-- ^■'•t^'.ut»t »it ti»cuiiib«ridum. 

totionesex pecutiAriboi librli petenda- ct 

The following is a translation of the t<»5timonium 
or diploma gninted by the Rubbi to the butcher 
perfect in hia art : — 

"llodip exploravi et ox&minari prsttatitem et egrc- 
i^mrn N. filiuui N. et ilium in arto mactondi peritum ^t 
induitrium, turn ore, turn tnanu case comperi, ideu illi 
fiecus mactare et iiiquirert! pertuitto^ et libcre cMnedl 
potorlt. quicquid mactavorit et inquieiTerit. Unc t^imcD 
if^e^ ut adbuc per tTitcgrum annual, nini^uUfl hcbduiiift- 
dibus HituiiL itituA niactatiouia et iuqutaitiuniB dtU* 
jrenler porlcgat, anno rero «ecundti rinj^ulia iticnsilmi 
flcniel, tan«lem reliquo vita? awsc ipxttio Mngutti triukcatri- 
bua svmel tantum. Attcetante Rabbino IS,*' 

The following m the method to be adopted in 
sbn^htering animals :-- 

*' ^fsjoribuapecudibnaquatuor pedes in nnum colliBanfT 
Abrabami cteniTilo, qu^-m TMifico mtttnw ct pedes vinxiM© 
volunt. (|uum ibum oflTerrc vcUct : ju^ium postea et 
fiiiice^ una res-jlvuHt sections, st^timque cultrum inspi- nu^piam retu«tw,ifelcpcnumconfequut(Uifiient; 
crcna cnim in cuhro pcous terret, ct longuii in cur co^^itufg 
adeo (it eflluere non poaait. bncqne ratione pecu» ilUi-'itum 
redditur cttusque illiui interdicitur. PoBt^^uam acctio 
tlhi felioiter euccesait, pecus euFpendunt, inteatina deri* 
piunt, e regiono cordis ab utraque parte foramen 
refcifidunt, inde Mactator, vel quihb«t alius qui beua 
inquircre novit, manum iznmittic, et an nihil adnutum 
fuiTit, inquint, an nuepiam ianguia utius lattat^ toI 
aquex} puBtulae jecinori et pulmoni adfaxrennt : ct, ${ ret 
minimu»dtfectnidepr«hendatur, pccuB illi hoc 

audeat Judaeua comedere, uti fcribttur : .1 et 

IttCtratum a bettiit non eontedctis, tul projic^-. -. , -. .ti, 
llinc stolide pro mare suo conctudunfc Judoti, nuUutn aibi 
peou* cdendnm eiae, niit omnino aanum ct incolume ; 
quamvis Scriptura non dc vivo »pd de mortictno, quod 
prr BO mortuum^ tcI a feria lacerotum fucrit, loqiiatur." 

K. 0. 

"Scatolooica" (5** S. iv. 427, 523.)-! know- 
nothing of this controver8}% but Mr, Swiftb's 
suggestion that nentology mny be derived from 
intttv iR '*very tolembte and not to be endured." 
He, indeed, does it leas than justice in deriving 
*' acato/- " from " sciiteo," for the nearer form tcaio 
is in Lucretius and perhaps elsewhere. 

hnl there is no example of tlje alUx " -logy/' or 
" -logical/' after a verK however adapted* It is 
always after a noun, conmjouly a notm substantive, 
or a participle (as in *' ontology "), which in a 

Nor does itraUo very eai*ily indicate compn*hen- 
Hiveness ; nor do I know Mr. Swii-te's nnthority 
for deriving the English gcntter from *eaUo, The 
root U8nally given is a Saxon word, 

I am not aiire if M. Gantillon is in earnest 
with his " BungologicaJ." But though no less a 
WTiter than Dr. Whewell has suggested " Tido- 
logy," I c^mnot but think that this tying together 
of English and Greek is ugly, not to say bar- 
barous. Ltttklton. 

•P^S.^Since writing I have seen with much 
concern the death of Mr. Stivifte, whose retention 
of his faculties till the uge of ninety-nine ia mar- 



[S'^^S. V,Ja».8,7«. 

velloutt, to the degree In which it was gtnnted to 

[Thi8 intim&tion of the d*fctli of our Tcnernblo Corre- 
spondftit will we ktc hxitc, eTcito the regret vf ftH our 
retdon. Although so umr to a huDdred jrc&rs uf age, 
JIfjt Bwirre wrote & clear, itrong, lej^rible hanJ, ni ca^'y 
to rf»d ai print,— tery jilcasiant to the wearied eye* uf 
compoflitora. " readers," and editors. To mch ever- 
irorfchrg folk, liatidwritini; like tlmt of the late Mr. 
8friFTE'i corne? jntt as nnipht a gentlemnnly courtesy. It 
•eema a warrant for many virtuea, and ioducea a belief 
in tbe posstble perfectibility of mam] 

MusiCAX. Eevenge: "Hudibras" (5**^ S. iil 
32.% 393, 456, 61f> ; iv. 277, 295.)— Mr. SiEriiENs 
iuM furnished " N. & Q/' with a list of illustrated 
editions of HvdibroM (" N. & Q.," iii. 466), and 
your industrious correspondent niaintains that the 
existence of such a list (in the British Museum 
Catalogue) rjenioustratc's the g^nidually increasjDg 
popularity of Butler s epic, as generation after gene- 
mtion became ficquninted with it. Miu Stepoens 
observes, nnd with due penetration : — 

" IlItiitrAted editiona were made, of course^ to«e1I« and 
Ibnt they did eell is proired by the fact .... that con- 
sidorable numbers of iuiprefsiotiB muat liiTe been taken 
from the durable copper- plates." 

Here is ft confession that the pictorial editiODA 
were ^'made to sell." But then this is, per sn^ a 
"trick of the trjide." It does not, therefore, dia- 
prove my hypothesis, bat seems to confirm it. The 
old booksellers doubtless found Hudilfras u safe 
Htock book, to a certain extent, to trade on, eonse- 
nuently they did not mind experiraentinfj upon 
Ine letter-press by Icndinfj to it the charm of 
cngrnvings. It might be long before the stock 
could be exhausted, but it would not be ft bad 
invcstntemt at uny rate. It is a principle of the 
trade to invest tlicir money in works of a per- 
manent chunicter, und wait for the result. But, for 
idl that, Hndibrat did not, I suspect, get into any 
other handj, amongKt the public, than those of the 
upper clashes and the better-otr middle classes. I 
think a youth from school during hia holidays, 
having an illu.strated Bnikr's Poems put in his 
hands to-day as a Christmas present, would be 
puzzled to find out how to admire its contents. 
I'or my own part, I have been always accustomed 
to estimate Hudibrai as "a book of reference" 
nither than as a splendid satirical epic. So, pro- 
bably, doe'i many a literary man in these days. 
But to take another view of Hudibrastic readers. 
The buyers of books for tho hat ten generations 
have, of course, been a suceessively increasing class. 
The rich parvenu and the ogtentatious pritrician 
trere both fond and proud of a well- selected lihniry, 
and were nr> doubt continually adding to it ; but I 
fancy thyy might not be readers of book^!, but only 
posFtsporK of ti iihrary, which they showed to their 
friends, without knowing, perhapsjndler'a JForlhies 
from Plutarch's LivtA, '* In my mind's eye" I can 
!*oe my old friend Isanc rucock, magistrate in 

Berks fifty years ago, sitting in his sti> 
accustomed cluiir in his old library, juir^i 
oriel window. He has a copy of Bmli 
hand.; but for what purpose? Pocock w«s i 
dramatist, and he is searching for some apt witti- 
cism or sarcasm to fit into the dialogue of a nrw 
play for Covent Garden. I believe the men; 
fcishion of assuming book knowled^'e in the old 
times stood for the love of books for the readinsV 
sake- In this way, then, we may account for Snt 
constant i9«^uing of new edition.^ of the classics, 
ancient and modern, over a period of 
Are not iHustnited ** family Bibles,'' 
Booh of MftTtyrx used to be, now f 
country people by colporteurs or book 
vassers, in numbers at sixpence, lei«i or u,,, i. 
same system is about a century old ; and aiic: 
one way of circulating illustrated books. Th 
be called active inultng in new editions, 
cannot be said that it proves the ever ineii 
popularity of Hudibras. E. H. Malcolm*, 

"Ubchard," the Translator of Ejlbei 
(5*** S. iv. 428.)— I beg to say thnt the trans 
of Rabelais is 7iof "always called Urquhart" 
aUernative Urchard is given in Gorton's Bit 
phitial IHt'lionartj (London, 1820). In fact, 
(hiird Is the older way of spelling the 
William Urchard, of Cromarty, wa^ herit 
feberilT of that shire in th© reign of Robert 
about ninth in de.seent fron» him wi\» this 
Thoma.-', who was knighted by Chnrlea I., 
afterwards taken prisoner at the bittle of 
ter, fi^rbting on the royal side, which he di 
with his pen ako, as well as Ida sword, 
author of Beveml curious works, one of i 
truly characteristic of a Scotchman, was a 
alogy of the Urtpiharts, in which he prof, si 
trace their deiiLGnt by regular ^enemtionii ft 
Adam. He died soon after the Heyloration ; 
this l>eing so, be cannot be styled *' the cnlhtl 
of Ozell and Moltcux in a translation of Ual 
if the big ugly word implies, as I suppose, 
three worked together at the same time on 
srime book. I will expl.dn. It uppears th ^ 
T. Urquhart tniTi?!lated only the first three 
of Riibehusof which the third was not prints 
some c^rmsidenible time after his death, MotU 
a Frenchman, but a gtwd English scholar, di 
over here by the revocation of the Edict of NanI 
added tn Sir Thomases three books a transktioi 
the remaining two, contuining the account of. 
tagruel's voyiige, exphmations, and nlife uf 

After Motteux's death in 1718, Ozell, a con< 
fellow of French extraction, and much inferior^ 
attainmeuts to Motteux, at whom he carps 
C4»vils in an absurd way, published a trinj^hitioii" 
Rabelais, which is simply a reprint of Unpil 
and Mrittcux's. All that he did for Rabelais 
to add to the existing translation certain nol 




Cm AS. 

ftntsa > 


ciiiefly stoltw fnm the Tate new edttion of tlli^ ori- 

gtiukl Frendi hj I>iichAt. I huve a copy of OzelVh 

ccUtioia, priotaa at Dublm, 1736. Both Motteux 

aiHl Oaeil%iir» m tbe "Dandad." One word more 

Abnui the lllieUiog of UrquJmrt MotMJUjc spells it 

UMUrf; ObbII tpeUa it Urqnari. The oldest 

form iMPt lo lui?9 b^n UrcJiaH, accordiog to an 

old 4md rftfefring to u GuUeroch Urchart, alluded 

to Irr J. Boike in Lib Landed Gentry (London, 

ism}, J. H. I. Oakley. 

t fj rWyb j T p Meltoti Moirbmy. 

The woff^ I", i.ri lu .M.iir. correct: it is spelt 
eopiedT ftii t is pronounced, 

th<m|»b ftR i - — :1 probubly c«U it 

VfUltie-hftft, There are many other Scottish 
mmes wbidi are pronoanced in tbe old way dif- 
ffvmtilf from what they are spelt in tbe new, f.y., 
Muait^ Buchuuminf Colqithoun, M*Kenzie, Sec, 

J, R, Hjlio. 

" (5*^ H, tv. 406,495.)— The ip-mt 
jd is, 80 it seems to me, whether 
realty a tmnslution of "Gottes- 
an old English expression revived, 
u.'^ whether and where it is to ha 
time of Longfellow ] If it is an 
a revived, nothing can be said 
1 that the revival is not likely 

li ^' 'ptance. But if it is a 

tntKUtion of '* < -r," then 1 think Mn. 

DlXOK is perftL... . v- l, and that it is a mis- 

UuultttioQ ; and I cannot conceive any ono who is 

at att f ktiiiUjr with German defending it. An 

CKpr t be said to be adequately trans- 

ytffi . lea conveyed by the translation is 

t hat conveyed by the orijrinal. 

n fiiind the word Acker coa- 

vvTi a«s of l»uii .. • , idea of measurement ;* 

t^t tho onlinnrf I nd the word acre conveys 

r L ol measurement. Itinuse- 

i fnan (as Mr. Warrkn does), 

' Tij tUii oxpr«?3sion " God*« acre," 

' f of the idea of a certain fixed 

•|UAmiv\ (., * ■ ■■ ■ ihle for h'm to do 

•k It is c " Gottea- Acker '' ia, 

taoiea niii - ..j,'ether inadequately 

mdftred by ** < ." "Acre" may once 

tcvf l,:.j {|iM in. I " Acker" has now, hut 

ig, and it is uaelesa to expect 

- .n it. 

ia coDciojiion, wouhl any one propose to render 

* 1 hare lired io Gcrmanj^ and ipoken and written I 
Hnfliii niacb Tor the l&ct tweatydght yoArs, but I have 
iMar hcftfil Aeher n».^d in the ftence of a mcaiure of Und^, 
ft«mVic ti leiveo tbit meanini; in the dictionariefl. I 
h^tal-^"' i'^^H Mrrrfftn ii»cd in tbie M>r»ie. I erpeci 
>l<tr, u ameuure, iscoikfin^d to oerc&in 
Perhaps lome G enu«a reader of 
ft«^ Kill teUttt. 



the Italian equivalent "campo aanto" by "holy 
acrn"? F, Chanck, 

8jdeuham HilL 

I had no intention of dbcussing the etymology 
of either J ci:er or acrg. What I meant, and still 
mean, is thia» that at the present day the word 
Acker suggests to a Grerman a special sort of land 
— " plough- land/' and tbe wonl n^^rt suggesta to 
an Englishmiin a detinito quantity of any sort of 
laud, and therefore that the two words are not the 
equivalents of each other. J. Bixu!?. 

The Trade of TANNtNo (5* S. iv. 428.)— In 
tbe history of our own conntiy we have the 
brothers Robert and William Kett, wealthy tanners 
of Wyniondham, in Norfolk, who headed an im- 
ptvrtant insurrection in tbe reign of Edward VL 
They came to a more ignominious end than Cleon, 
for Robert was hanged at Norwich, and William 
on the steeple of Wymondham Church. 

Wc know on good authority how long a tanner 
will "lie i' the ciirth ere be rot." *' A tanner will 
last you nine year, . , His bide is so tanned with 
}m trade that he will keep out water a great whUe ; 
and your water is a aore decayer of your dead 
ho^^y —Hiivdtif V. I . J. iL L OAKi*ar. 

For an account of an eccentric individual (James 
Hirat), by trade a tanner, see Ocnt. Mag., Dea> 
1829, p. 070. Then *' There 'k Best's son, the 
tanner of Winghamp" 2 Htwry VL, Act iv. sc 2, 
what about kirn I Mr, Praise-God Brircbonc was 
ii leather-seller and leader of the Repulilicun Par* 
Uament. If your correspondent is iatereared in 
ahoeraakers, he will find much curious information 
in Crispin Anccdtdes, coniprinng Inietesim^ 
Noticfs of Shocmakem, with other Matters illuMra- 
titr of Oie History of iiu Oentle Craft, Sheffield, 
1827, 12rao. Hone's Every-Day Book will also 
afford some scnipit relating to St. Crispin and hi* 
followers. Gkorce Pottkr. 

42, Grove Koad, Holloway, N. 

There w the balhid of Rnhin Hood and the 
Tanner^ **ft merry and pleasant song relntinj: the 
gallant and fierce combat fought between Arthur 
Bland, a tanner of Nottingham, and Robin Hood," 
Ritiion'a Hobin Hood, p. 75 (Griffin & Co., n, d.). 

Cleon waa first of all a tanner. 

There is an inscription in Gaiter, p. 648, n. 8, 
of Cleomenes, "Coriariusauhacl^rius."— /''arc. Sex. 
V. "Coriarius.'' Ei>. Marshall. 

Some interesting references to thi^H trade may be 
found in two journals devoted to itis interests, the 
Tanners' and Currieti Journal and the Leather 
Tradu' Circular and iievwu?, both published 
monthly in London. H. S. 

Mn. P. FAsrATT baa not mentioned one very 
memorable man connected 'wVlVv \\\va Vtw\^, 'Oofc 



[S*"* S. V- Jax. $, '70. 

"Unner's grandson" of Fttkise, WUlinm the 
Cooqueror. M. L 

** Abarca" (S*"* .S. W. 169,364, 415.)— Lumniendi 
traces overytliing to Bii^qiie, and is no authority 
at >d]. Diifresne ^Wes Lucas Tudensis tia a.n 
ftuthoritj' to show tluit this word ia found written 
avarca. He, however^ refers to olpiiTfjaiu^ 
*' aparteti, csilcei ex fnnibiis, Hispanis alpnt^/a^ in 
Cf»nstitut. T<?rc:3iananim, cap. 8 . . . CoUert, Cone. 
Jfupan, p. 707. (?idiga« faciant et cannabiiceaa 
soleaj*, viiJi^o alpiirpites. Alpargata vertit Sobrinus, 
in Les. II IttpM^all.^ une cspuce de soulicrs fait de 
chanvre : il s en hit aiissi de soyct et de joncs la 
pIuparL" The Jh'ec. dt la Acad, Effpak. givers 
alparyaia^ *' lo uiisiuo que alpargaU^ en y tuuchas 
party's usan !Uiin:u'Iti aifsi con toruitnacion feine- 
Jiinu " ; and aipargntr^ " especte de calzado, que 
sc bncc de cunanjo o espuito ; pero a este llaman 
en la Mancha y Murfia Afhorgns o E«parteuas . . . 
8ii etyraolopa dice el P. Alcjtla viene de la voz 
Arabij^a Pargaf^ que vale lo iiiiKun), y nnadista 
el articulo wJ, y li e nl fin, por no ^er proprio en 
nuestm lengim reinotar siis voces en f. se dixo 
alpargati" Inaamuch as the Arabic does not 
possess tbe letter p, tbe word mnst. be looked for 
under ^, but is not found. Zedler (t7>in\ i*^.), 
afttr dcfinin^r Ike word ahurmy says : *' Konig 
Sancho I., soil aucb da7on deii Namen Aharm 
bekommen haben, well er dcrglek-hen schulie 
ani^ehabt, ats er die Regierung angetreteo. Tule- 
tanU9, IM Rfh, Hisp.^ v. 122 ; Covarruviaa, The- 
*tiur. Liittf, Cajttclt:' It nnistj however, be noted 
that Abarca and Ik Ahnrr't were the names cf 
several celebnited men, and that Abarcas and 
Alharca are local name.s in Spain. 

E. S. Cmarkock. 


Charles Wilmot Serres, a "Suppressed 
Prince' (5^^ S. iv. 461, 484 ; v. 6,)-! am glad 
to be able to furnish Mr. Thoms with the link in 
the hiMtory of Charka Wiliuot Serres next ia order 
to that contributed by Clarrv. 

Having been discharffed on April 3, 1S25, from 
the Marine Society, Charles? Wihiiot entered, on 
the 27th idem, the maritime service of the late 
Eft^t India Com puny, and wjts attached to that 
C^ompany's own i<hip Bnckinjihamsbire* 13G9 ton?, 
Cupt. Richard Glafespoole, which was then about 
to make her fifth voyage to tbe East. 

He sailed in her from the Downs on May 2, 
went to China, returned to England on May'31, 
1826, was discharged from her on June 1 following, 
and on the Dth idem received himself, from the 
Company, and signed for» the wages due to him for 
the voyjitre. 

The Company subscribed annoaliy to the Marine 
Society, and took therefrom a cert^iin number of 
the boya into their njaritime service, placlDg them 
in their own ships. Some of these were appren- 

ticed for a term of year?, who afterwards general 
remained in that service, riiiio;; lo superior 
tions in it ; tbe othera were mLrely taken O^r tl 
voyage, and were dischargeil on its completion, 
was tlie case with ChnrleH Wilmot. 

It ia not unlikely that he may have made oil 
voyages to ladiii in shiiMi owned or freighted 
the Company or by tbe public (for the trjtde 
India was open then) ; if so, and he went n\ 
ships connected with the Companyt I might 
able to give further information regarding hil 
provided I am furnished with the names of 

In respect to the place and date of hh bii 
which Mil. TnoMS atutes as being " at pi^ei-ent if 
volved in obscurity,'^ as " he was iit one time- 
school lujister in one of the Cape Coloured Ri 
ments," Mr, Tiioms might find further inforri: 
tion (than appears in Wibiiot's letter and tl 
Marine Society's recordij) on these fK>ints in tl 
recomls of the War Office. Charles JIaso^'. 

In ilia Office, WljitebmU. 

'' Hard Lines " : Caxes (5** S. iv. 40T. 
in noticeable that Fnller writes the name of 
Jewi&h measuring-rod I'^nn) ChcJ>el (Pijignh-Sigl 
orig. ed. bk. lii. p. 396), and not hhlhily as 
modern printer hiun altered it ; and it ia tl 
brought nenrer to our word eahk. There 
reason in the "Uppoaed connexion of the word 
Ps, xvi. 6 with the common phrase *' bard lini 
It hxs not escaped tbe notice of Mr. Grove, 
sayw, Smith's DiH. liik, IS03, p. 298 :— 

*' Tlie use of tlie word in this ien«e [that of bllutmci 
in our own idiomatic cxprcsaiori— ' h:iid lines ' —will 
bo forgotten. Other corre«pondencks between Ch 
as applied to measurement, and our own words roc/, 
chain, and hUo cofd^ u npplie't in the province* 
cotoniei to solid meastuts of vvuod, ^e^, are obvious." 

It may be remarked that Fuller, in the sai 
folio, say s th:it the river Ivuuah (Jo^b. xvii. 9) 
'*«o called fmi\] reeds, Kanuh [nap] in Elebi 
(whence our Kngitsh word CfiUf'?, or w;dkiug-staT< 
fetching both the name, tind thing from the 
Conn trey»), growing plentifully thereabouts'' (bk. 
173). The writer of the article ou weights ai 
measures, Didionarsf of the Bihk, p. 173<J, cal 
attention to the similarity of these words, B, 

To me evidently derived from drawing ai 
painting, where the phmse is in technical use. 

AtheniKum Club. 

Cb.\\vt,et and Burn'ell Families (5'** S. 
42J).) — Is there a place adled Crawley ia H< 
ford shire ? Ctuttcrbuck does not mention it, 
docs Ad am a in his Indcf: VillariSf nor the modi 
Ckrtjy LiM. 

Thomas Cmwley of Nether Crawley, in 
parish of Lnton (Beds), was tbe father of 
Francis Crawley of the same place, one of 



the t-tii*^ of Charles I. Th^re was no 
ty ti L branch of the fuiiiily, 

I nov4v % represented hy Mr. John 

dke Cmrlrjr of Btockwood Parkf in the 

tj, HUSRY H. GlTtOS. 

*a, Begmt'i P&rk. 

ro Book-Plate (5** S. iv. 464.)— I 
le of Mr Charles Ciark'B book-plntea, 
^lue degree from the one quoted by 
"" IK, there beinj^ in my copy several 
the te\t, while the heading nins 
leader to the Needer when a Reader," 
Mnder to the deader not u Heeder." In 

foot of my plute is the date 1869, 

(t^ly I mjty note thnt my example la 

a copy of a quaint discoursi', 'Tiod 

lontf the Goda ; opened in a Sermuu 

kble House of Comiuons/' &c., 

I' :>y John Wurd, Minister of the 

H^wicuj and a Member of i)w ABaenibly 


S O'Meara (5t«» S. ir. 467.)-This 

waa physiciun to the Butlers, the greiit 

e. The 0'Meara$ were heredi- 

iciiins to the Butlers. There is an 

Dcrmitius O'Meara in the LeariJi fr&m 

Phyniciun \n the Seradeenth 

1 by the writer hereof in the 

k^M .li I UK Tloynl Historicsil and Arcbtco- 

bciety of Irelftnd, in ilhiMtnUion of Dr. 

Arthur Fit^wiJliams'a Fee-Book of a 

)^A.U. 1619-1666. 

Maurice Le:(iuan, M.R.I.A. 

LlTKKATUBE (5»* S. IV. 62, 153, 

f belfry rules I know of are 

I mi bluck gothic letters on the wrdl 

e-door in the tower at S cotter, 

•• Yow ringcrt All 
who bus re doe fitU 
AficI doe east over 
tk bell doe forfeit 
to the Cljirk*' tbeirfore 
A Groute I doe yow 
c«ll & if yow 
ihinck it be to 
little k be&re 
A railimDt minde 
ymore yow giTO 
mto him then 
yow prove to him 
mor« kiude/* 

J. T. F. 
HaII, Durhftm. 

T version of the lines quoted by A. R., 
irious add it ton^ marked below in italics, 
be seen on a tablet on the walla of the 
Bowden Magna, Leicestershire : — 

** If you get Drunk tttid hither Eeel, 
Or witli your Brftwl Disturb the Fcftl ; 
Ot leiUi mumtuntfeoui* horrid SmoaJk, 
Ton ctoiul Ihe /ioom, and Hmffera C'hnal- ; 
Or if you d»re proylmne this Place 
By Oiitb, or Curse, or LitD^irunj^e Bate ; 
Or if you »hal1 preBunio in Peal 
Widi flfttt, or Cr.ftt, or armed Heel ; 
Or turn jour Bell in careless way. 
For I'Ach Offence aball Two Pence pay ; 
To break tliese Lawi if any hope 
May leave the Bell, and take the Rope. 

Ei)WAHi» EvoLiciiSftN, Church warden. 
X.B.— He who plucki bia Bell over when turned ih&ll 
pmjf Six Pence." 

Thomas North. 
The Bank, Leicester. 

Fba^cts DoutJLAR (5*'^ S. iv. 4S7.)— I huie no 
Dcnifrhis pedigrees to examine, but offer iVIr. 
CoTTELL u jotting which nuiy interest him. I 
po3se.«ia severjil books printed by Francia Douglas 
between 1750 and 17G<) in Aberdeen, where he 
WA^ a printer, and fetl hia press partly with his 
own productionH, My authority also enables me 
to »ay that he had a son^ luost likely of the stitne 
Christian nr^rne^ and, residing at a seaport, the 
latter may have donned the blue jacket, tiud in 
process of time have beo^nie Ciipttiin Fninciii 
Dougtas. Whatever bin name v-vis, the printer's 
son died in iwi>7, at the age of eighty-one, and I 
think Ijoth fattier and son would lit into Mti. 
Cottell's date**- The old pri nter was a remarkable 
man ; he threw himself into the celebnited Douglaa 
Ciiuae by wTiting n pampblet upholding the wiuuing 
8ide, for which Lord Archibald Douglas rewarded 
him with a favourable leaMe of Abbot Inch Farm, 
near Paisley, where he died in 17B4 ; and although 
the Fon wan then living, he was succeeded in tne 
farm by a son-in-law, which raises the presumption 
that the young Francifl,upon my theory, was plough- 
ing the main, and not dis^wsed to turn fanner. 

J. 0, 

"Wilter" (r>«h S. IV. 46a)-" To wih or 
icHkr, to wither. These flowerH are ail in' Hat, 
South and west." This is what Captain Grose 
says of the word in his Frorhtcinl iilostmrtf. I 
never heard it used niyiielf, and I think It may 
fairly be pronounced a "provincialiim.'^ 

J. H. L Oakley. 

Wjverby, Melton Mowbray. 

It is sometimes spelt icdtir. The word is 
commonly used in Cambridgeshire, and ixho in 
the Isle of Wight. It is tn be found in Webster* 
IHctionary, and an example is there given from 
J. Taylor : — " irelUrcd hearts and blighted 
memories." S. N, 


** inUj to Jose freshness, to droop ; to make 
rtaccid as a green plant, hence to destroy the 

* MuMluHfjw, i, €., stinking tobotico. 



WilUtf to fibdcy witbeTf u Id firaqnent me Sn 
BMbpflitfe lo Ibt pUcea oev tfae oooatf town. 
It ti Mid ofM AM vlitii it fiHi tbat ii *^ wOli " 

or » " wtltiog.'' Tbomjlb Rxtvum. 

la tnj boyhood tlit word wu in ooxumon ti% in 
Berkaliire ; »nd unoDg boji who Inpi laibbits it 
WM a •tricl rule to fire none but tnluA leares to 
ih« animALi tut their hc»lth'« Mke. X. P. D. 

It will be found ia HaIIiweir« DiVfionary as a 
BnclrtnjdiaiiMhtre ezpreMiiia. W, T. 31 

See Stemb«rg'i DiaUct ami FaOt^lmc of Xorth- 

PonTRAtr or 11*5* ST Clarke, LLI>. (q^ S. 
JU. 307, :*v ^'"; ir. 3180-1 am indebted to 
jour cuti fur communloitlons relatire 

lo thtJi If *;-;,.^. !► ;> ^^m.h to be 

wijihfHl tl He wae 

in hI'jL 1 ....:...: „„^ ^.„.ufd. Liver- 

poo] ,1, and Sandhant, where suc- 

ceiM , IJc died intestate, at I«Itnj^on^ 

in J 818. It wujK bin fate, when proposed, in 1734, 
a« a Mooib^T of the Eojal Society, to be blackr 
bftJlcd by the Prt»ri(lent, Sir Joseph Baoks, and 
the tliUUanti nioniberu ; and in the course of the 
aoicry drbutc which took place at thjit time, the 
lettrnod Horali'y, aft^^rworoa Bishop of Rochester, 
^mmt.tpv'rmil the ** low '' ncbootmnster aa "a gentle- 
jDMi of thn moHt unblemiNheiJ cbiiracter in life, a 
mathctnutician of the ;^Teutet«t euiicience." 

John E. Bailey. 

Ma». Pritciiard (.j»»» S. iii. r>(«> ; jy. 296, 431, 
•492.)— The mjotation of "yulgap idiot," dec, ia to 
be found in IJoiweirw Life of Johnton, 1791, 4to. 
ii. p. 4(18. Ho givea it on tlie authority of KemUe^ 
a» uied by Johuson in u converii^ation with ]\Ira. 
8idilon«. It in very probable that Johnson used 
th«! woril idiot, but it ih hardly fiiir to quoto the 
expreiinion a^ a deliljentte criticism or opinion of 
Johnnon'H. It must be remembered that the con- 
verFwition took plnce in 1783, within a few months 
of hi* ileatli, wiit'ti Ii«5 was sufferinp; from rhe cllects 
of gout, \tn.Uy, &c., mid ibat his recollections of 
Mn. Pritcluird*H acting and actions thirty years 
bi*fore were probably not pleasant. Is it not fuirto 
coDcbule that what he Kaid meant rather, "com- 
pared wiib Mrs. Siddons, Pritcbard was a vukar 
idi6i"1 Edward Sollf. 

Brcauuo Mn. W. WnrsTON cannot find a saying 
of Dr. Johnwon^H in bis " fire references," lie sonie- 
Vfhni hastily conchidea it i^ not in the book, and 

implies a chuge of '^namcunej to pcterifoiis writen; 
the number, by li^Il^eitiii^ tiwillie 

It would 1^ eaaf to pnnne, m HsmT^ anT 
statetneDt bj tadi mMLsa; batttAden^^tf.iLi^ 
expect, and are aocnstomed to, gtf ter cmclnegL 

I caanot gire Mr, WaIS1^all a lefagace 
Crokei's edition of Boawell, but he will find 
fbUowing under date 1783 :— . 

«* Prtlchaid, in oomnoo 1if«, was a nOgae 
weak] talk of ber jwW— but when she a|it»eu«d 
the atace la e iu t d inspirad bj geDtUitjand omSta 
iac/*— BoewelTf JL«/< «/ Dr. JokntnUf «oL in 
edC 18381 

I Teotared to object to tbese wordi, 
coBTeraation, being brought forward now as 
cifin on an artre*? who for some eigbl-:^nd- 
years held a leading position on the bonr*^«. 

Wbetber ber brother, Mr. Vaughan. 
not, aaasstcd by Mrs. Pritcbard is n 
oonaeqacnce ; bat why doea Me, Solly rjiy ti 
i« *' DO doabt " he was I The facts point to • 
ferent conclusion, for he appears to have "s 
bimaelf by claiming as coheir in some 
left by a Sir. Leonard, the expectation 
had partly decided Mrs. Pritcbard to re( 
her profession. See Thespian Dictiov^^- 
and DarieSf Life of (/arriei, ii. 
Sollt would add to the value ot 
munication by criving his authority for the 
ment that AHcIa Tindal Palmer was 
Pritcbard*! grand-daughter. Chakles Wn 

An omission in the indei to the fine edition 
Boswellj mentioned at 5* S. iv. 492, has led 
into asking an unnecensary question. I £nd' 
Johnson spoke of Mrs. Prit\hai'd aa ** a 
idiot/' &.:., in a conversation with Mrs. Sid( 
17S3, «o the resemblance to Walpole'* *'iDS 
idiot " is accidental. I trusted somewhat too 
plicilJy to an index I have hitherto found 
trustworthy. W. TVai8T0$.| 

John of Gaunt^s Coat (5* S. iv. 445, 494. 
Without the least desire to disparage John 
Gaunt's cojit, I would suggest that the descripti* 
is suspiciously that of one of the bripandine jiicke 
u^ed by archers and foot soldiers in the tiftcei 
and sixteenth centuries. The quilting of cam 
and string, the lacing down the front, the comi 
no lower than the hips, and the sleeves 
unattncbcd, »ro very cbymeteristic of the bnf^ 
dine described in Skelton's MtyridvA Arms ai 
ArniQur^ vol* i. plate xxxiv., where we have 
bowman ia that costume. Sometiuies 
jackets itre mad^: more protective by small pi 
of iron being quilted in, and the sleeves have tl 
small plates also. My improasion is, they 
worn by the inferior gwbdo of soldiers, 
c^ostume is now so well understood by antiquj 
that an ** expert " would soon decide the poii 

SPB. V,Ja». 8,T«.J 



T hnpc I am wrong, for I would niiich rattier a 
reuHy corioaa nllo of " tiuie-honourod Lancaster" 
v'liou.ld be in Imag than cot. P. P. 

T^ K r*i "-'*in Park, Oxon., tbere isa pond, now 

. called "Johnny Gaunt's pond/' 

.nrs ia\y his " spirit " dwells. A 

' ']y cut down, was also called 

«'/' Plot says, in his Natural 

I l! (1G77), that the manor of 

>. part of the possessions of the 

kmjr^ o( KngUntl, * and by descent " cnrue to John 

ofOutnt" J^tirely "Johnny Gaunt" must hiwe 

i' ' Kirtlington for hia nsune to be 

}i ese fire hundred years. 

G. J. Dew. 
Lower Htyford, Oxon. 

PoiT9 riTB Mastbbs of Lakouagb : Lord 
Btjio* (4** B, %i. 110; 5* S. iv. 431, 41)1 ; v. 14.) 
— Aj I #»ntirely disngr^e with MAKRocnEm 
':r. 'i?,V, \>nth in his estimate of Lord Byron's 
. and as to his or any piet's right 
mar for the sake of a rhyme, nnd 
Aitild to accept it as ;?ood Englisb, I 
:\cr of your reiwlew wbiit they think of 
' he word ** sung " : — 
the idea of Oreeca ! 
1 '- .1 iiud iung, 
J po'tce, 
nis sprung r* 

WiUtof ftcoit uses the wordg '*ahttU"and 

i ' In lii-f no%*elfl very confusedly; but this 

them h.ive no separate nieitning, 

c to think th.'it Scott's genius Wiw 

»• original than Byron's, Surely* 

depth and more achohirly trc:it- 

ritivi, Mattdy and Locktley Hall 

^• Harold^ The CWaair, and Voti 

• I atu sure that Tennyson would not 

to follow him iniklae grammar, if we 

i it ui hts writings. 

A.LPACD Gattt, D,D,. 
.. . . „ 1 Vicvnura, SbelB«ld. 

Riiit.&rtir OK WtQToiTX : Gyll and Flemtng 

-. iv. 511,)— H. S. G. is quite right 

- that the worda quott'd by htm 

. n ---V:, 1: ' ^ -,^ " 

'•.- -1 of 

^' i 111* fiitry 

. who married 
. *,.., ....... ,-... ..... . .;ve form, is q« 

rut Jftf«*v only •urriring datii^Jttpr of Hamilton 
T in the nrriiy. He cl»irmd the title 
>ri. but ivM fouiiil by the Liirdi'<* Cotu- 

•1 i .rnii>xc» to liATe bu right to tiia p»me " 

Oio. iLuutiiioH, Windjsor Ucnild. 

hi Koke,Oddin{Tton, Lower He}'ford,and, I believe, 
at Souldern, in O.xfordshire. The woman who 
oflBciated at Lower Heyford was the daughter of 
a pariah clerk who was deaf, and for year* had 
assisted her father at certain periods of the service 
by a friendly jo^. One baplesB Sunday afternoon 
the old clerk indulged in a anore, when tb** accus- 
tomed joj^ brought out a sonorous " Amen " in the 
middle of the «enuon. G. J. Dew. 

Lower Hey fori, Oxon. 

Author Wanted (6«> S. iv. 467, 522.)— 
C. H. P. poesesaes what appears to be a somewhat 
valuable edition of Lord Brooke\i works. Lord 
Brooke, better known, perhaps, as Fulke Greville, 
was one of the most prominent political characters 
of his day, and the power which he acquired under' 
James L excited the jealousy of Cecd himself. 
Hia most important poetical work j3 Coe/iw, a 
collection of graceful and unullccteJ lyrics. Of 
bis pby of MuM'tpJui^ Bvhk'f^L^ {Dram. Art and 
LiL}^ after speaking of SuckviUe's Qorhoiluc, says ; 

" Mftaiftpka, another URtucc>P89fu1 wort of a kindreds 
dcscrijktiou, antl also l«y a i^at lorH, U n tcdiou* web or 
all Kirt» of jRtUticid subtleties; thochorucciiu |)art)ctil&f 
are true treatites/' 

Perhaps the best account of Lord Br^wko mskf^ 
be found pre6xe<i to his works in Grosart's edition|,' 
in 4 vok, m " The Fuller Worthies' Library." 
Geo. W. Nkwam« 

The book referred to by C. H. P. evidentlj 
wants I he title- paj^e. It is as follows : — 

''Ceitft'me Lc»med and EIegai»t ^VMrk*;i of the Ri^bt < 
HoTiuTiible Fulke, Lord Brooke, Written i« Uia Yout}t|. 
Af*d familiar Exercise with Sir Philip Sidney/* Loudon» 

kc, -am. 

My cop}', which was formerly Southey's, baa his 
auto;Trapb' After the title-pnge the work begins, 
as your correspondent aays, on p, 2^. 

.Southey, in bis notes in ray copy, snya : — 

** Twenty ' ■• "^^ the beRinninj: of the volume bore 

been canct?' il»W they cohtaiucd fomethm^ to 

wliichth<'< ted. No coi>y coiitajnif4g thtiia 

has yet beeu fuuivd," 

Various conjeclurea have been hoxarded as to 
what these pages contained, but no thoroughly 
satinfactory solution has been Riven, except the 
one in the Bioyrophia BritanniAia^ quoted by Mr. 
Groftart, viz. :— 

" That 'here wa» r' ' "* ' itter, cont^inini; a life 

of the author, with fu i hi< oiurder thun hi« 

friends cared to let thcj j. ' 

a. W. KAriER. 
Atderley Edge. 

WHirrxNQ Doos out of Chup-cu (5»* S. iv. 3t)0, 

A curious illustration of the custom of 

ilojis to churches n»ay bo found in the 

^. n out of ten picture* of ijiteriora of 

irite subjects with Dutch artiste In 


panyiti^ their oWDeiB in tbeu lacred edifices. Two 
aucb pictures are now in tlie Museum at Betlinal 
Clreen. I cannot positively lecoUect a picture 
showing a do^ in church during "service time.'* 
""* Yolgrave '* (Youlgreave) Church iw near Bakewell 
— Dot in the Peak, aa Mr. Sleiuu appears to tell 

UB. F. G. STEniENS. 

Bean Swift (5*i» S. iv. 328, 397, 434, 497.)— 
In Sir Walter Scott'a Mtmoirs of Jonathan Swift^ 
prefixed to his worliSj he distinctly etntea thftt *'a 
moat intimate friend of his own" (the father of 
Lord Kinedder) ^* declined to .see Swift in his 
♦lotage hj mean.^ of privately giving money to his 
servants, hut that he did see him through the 
interest of a clergymsm." WOl your corrospoo- 
denta give their rvusons for disbelieving thia clear 
statement ? Lindis. 

The PaiwcEsa Sobieski, 1719 (5^ S. v, 9.) 
— The cscnpe of t!iG Princess Sohieski from lun- 
BpiTick in April, 17 HI, was arranged and carried 
out hy Mr. Charles* Wogan, with the aasistrtnce of 
Major !Mi«set and hia wife, together with Cliateau- 
deau, who was gentleman usher to the Princess. 
A full account was published in 1722 by Wogan, 
under the title Fcmah: FortUvdt cx^^npUtiai in 
the Nairativi of the Stizure^ Escnpc^ and Marriage 
of the PrinciJts Chmmtina Sobie^ki^ London, 8vo. 
A good general account of the matter is given hy 
G. H. Jesse, in The Memoirs of tkc Pretenders a7id 
t!u^ir Adhemils, p. 54, Bohn's edit., 1858, Further 
interesting details are to be met with in The Stuart 
Fapers^ edited by J. H. Glover, 8vo., 1847. A 
letter from Home, in the Mernire nifto7ique et 
Poliiitnie for June, 1719, gives un account of her 
reception at the Quinnid by the Pope^ to whom 
she wna introduced incognito through the garden, 
and who received her "»vec tie grandes marques 
de tcndresse." Edward Sollt. 

Bee reference to Sir Oharle:s Wogan's work, 
" N. & Q.," 2^^ S. V. IL K. NuROATE. 

[Seo ftko "N. & Q.," 4'" 8 ii. 104, and CCC X. !.'■ 
rrferenco to farther particulars to be found in Mr. 
'Ingiftirii'a account of Jftcobttc medftlB in the Num., 
^Ckron., First Series, ISOl?.] 

Thb CfULD or Halr (S*!* S. iv. 44, 95.)— In the 
Gurird Chamber fit Hurapton Court there is a por- 
tmit by F. Zucchero, which is described in the 
guide-book as follows : — ** Queen Elizabeth's Por- 
ter, in a Spanish dress. He wa5 seven feet six 
inches in height." A note to this states that he 
wn& " the Child of Hale, born Nov. 2, — » burte<I at 
Hale, Latic.'iahire (the property of Ireluud Black- 
bume), north about twelve miles from Liverpool" 

Emily Cole. 


Sir Richard Phillips (5^ S. iv. 95, 136, 180.) 
— I, ai well «s Olphau, would aak why 

" alias Sir Philip Richards " I There mn be no 
doubt as to his ufuue; if not a native of Leie^sster, 
he live*! there before going to London. I knew 
him hy sight myself, and was well acquainted 
with people who had been intimate with him in 
the various stagefl of his life, while living in Lei- 
cester before his rise in the world, during bis 
prosperity, and after hia fall. 1 remember onej 
person, who knew something of his circum3lani.M 
being present when his knighthood wtw nventionedj 
and he said, "You will soon see him xvhrreasd^ 
This expression I was too young to underistai 
but I found it referred to the advertisement 
bankruptcy, which formerly began " Whereas * 
commission," &c, Ellcek. 



The Vicar ot Savot (5«* S. iv. 149, 191.)- 
Dr. Ltttlediile*3 article on "Church Parties, 
the Contemporanj Rtimc of July, 1874, he refeis 
to the Jesuit Lorinua as saying that the '* per- 
petual tigony of the lost is to be one of the chief 
delights of glorified saints in heaven," Dr. Little-, 
dale adds emphatically, " Ugh I" M. V. 

"TnERE WAS AS apk," kc. (5th S. [y^ |4<^^ 21 ^ 
275.)— I think Middlk Templar is mi^t.ikeii 
when he says, " It is gre^'lt toes to their feet that 
they want." ** Hinder thumbs ' they certainly 
have, iind know how to use them ; and it seems 
to me that these may well be called " great toea," 
by courtesy at least, though the beasts ;Lre termed 
qutidrumana. W. J. Bernhabd S«itu. 


Walktno on toe Water (5^*^ S. iii. 44G, 495 j 
iv. 17, 276.)— 

"To do tlii?, take two Uttle TimbrcU, nnil bind tin 
under the soIcb of thj feet, and ut thy stavL>'s end fasti 
iinother ; unci with theso you m ly wRtk on the w»terj 
unto the woii<icr of all such m «lmU see the fume ; if 
be jou riften exercise tbe Ansae, wilti a certiiin boldnc 
and UghtiicM of the bodj." 

"Lightness of the body" would doubtless be 
veiy important proviso. A w<Khlcut illustrates 
process. The above occurs in a curious little " 
entitled ^ — 

" Natural and Artificial ConcloHions. . . . Enj^lisht 
and BCt forth by Thnmas Hil}» Londoner* whuse oi 
Experimeate; in tliin kind were hetd most excellent 
to recreate Wits withal at vacant tituot. bofidc 
Printedby A. M. . . . 1070." 

Smallest Svo., black letter. See sig. D 5. 

T. D. 


M'Kekzie Family (5*^8. iv. 248,377.)-Tl 
only date which I ciin give with regurd to tl 
M*kenzie query is that of the death af the Rei 
WiliitimGarnett, which occurred at Jersey in 18^ 
His age was eighty four, so that he must have b< 
born about the year 1760. W. G. TAlTN'rON. 






iii, 409, 453; W. fl6.)— A "nook" wna a quarter 
of a " yard knd" Phillips (Did., ed. 1706) says 
that «ome reckoo a nooK the Btirae an a furdel, 
"whilst others will have two fardels to make one 
noc»k. Thij difference probably jurose from the 
varying aixe of a yard land. Cowel stateH that the 
yard wms aometimea styled a verge of land ; it is 
commoal J derived from the Saxon Girdland, In 
tlie law dietionarieg of Cowel and B!ount the 
rooanipg of the word nook is not given» but it may 
be found »o Phillips, Bailey, Keraey, Ash, and 
mofit of the dictionaries of the century. 

Edward Sollt, 

A " node " of land ii described by Bailey as the 
fr —"* : "Tt of a "yardland," The same author 
hmd " is a quantity of hind containing 
iti --Ji. ijountiea twenty^ in others twenty-four, 
Uiirty, and forty acre*?, but at Wimbledon, in 
Sarrcy, no more than Hfteen. Dr. Cowel's Inttr- 
prttcr sayR ; — 

** TkU yardlanJ. Bracton, lib ii. cap. 10 and 27» culla 
Virsfttatn terrm, but expreues no certainty wlj&t it 
cfitiUiu*. Il i« culled ft rerii© of ItiniJ, Anno 25 E. I., 
8U(ate of Waidfl. Soe Belden'« TUtcs of Honour, ful. 

John Parkin. 
Idrtdgthay^ oear Derby. 

« V^s^x " OR « PE^•T " (5»» S. iii. 148, 336 ; iv. 

113, £o>4.)— The spelling of this word Ln the 

/ ' 1 Version of 1611 is by no mean* 

In »S. Matt. XX. 2, xxii. 18, it ia 

. ; 1ft versefr9, 10, and 13 of the former of 

•t -V :\i .{)t» r-, and in Rev, vi. G, '*penie" is used ; 

n S. AUrk xii. 15, '* penny." " Penni worth " 

r-1 in S, Mark vL 37, and " penyworth " in 

:. I hn ri. 7. In the marginal explanation given 

nt S. ^tatL xviii. 28, and S. Mark vi. 37, xii. 15, 

we hare ** penie," and in that at S. Matt. xx. 2, 

** Rsny.** T. Lewis 0. Davies. 

«w Tree Vicamge, Southkmpton. 

** Ci?iltM " (6»* 288, 472.)— Civier occurs 
as a tuntODM in the seventeenth century in the 
Daiiih regtttefs of Oldswinford, Worcestershire. 
I alirayi i^iippoaed the family to be of French 
iil>MPt> It is tometioies written Sevier. 

H, S. G. 

MrrAL Tobacco Pifks (5**' S. iv. 328, 496.)— 

lit* AshAntee ppoil* exhibited lately at 

liHington Museum were to be seen one or 

! hanasotne tobacco pipes, both bowl and 

ng formed out of pure African gold. 



Animal Parantis and Meismale*, By P.J. Van Bene- 

den. With Tliirtythree lllustratioiis. (H-S. Kingli 

Thk abi^ve i« the twentieth volDme of the Internatiorial 
ScienliGc Series, und the accom}iii&lied pntfesaor Mt the 
UnirerBity of IrQUvain tnay r«Bt weured tniwt he will have 
a gratefut, if often itftrtled, public. There is an much 
amutteiDent U* be deriTcd from Prof. Bencdeti's pagea aa 
there is instruction. The hist pace recommend* the 
prcierTfttion of the 3f&skcd Reduvius {Reduvinx prrno- 
»atu«), ag it is the IJerceat enemy of "one ipectcs, the 
name of which may be readily guessed — Arunthiti //da- 
ifdriVt "'; but V) he re there is eorupiilouf ctetinlineu in a 
houfchold there would be no coign of vantage for these 
two dirty adrersuries. 

A Jlutory of Eton College, 1440— ]S75. By H, C. Max- 
well Lytc" MA. \\n\\ inuntrttiona by P. L. Delji- 
mntte, ic. (Mncmilliin &, Co.) 
TuiiS book m&y be be«t drscribed by saying that it ii 
splendid citemally and internally. It would be difl5- 
cttlt tr> excel Mr. Ljte in bia qualifications for the au- 
thofiihtp of such a uork. Hia narrative, nome of it 
ii.cludiiig much important history, is attractive from 
be|;inning to end. The typo is somelhing " comfortable " 
for uny eye to contemplate ; the paper ai stxixu to the 
touch; the illuitrations of the best artistic qiutUty; and 
the binding original, nnd in the rery boat tuste. Muchi 
Kaa been written about Etonians, and rery well writtt-i 
too: but Eton OoUfge iCflelf hai never had «o gmceful 
and perfect a chronicler as now, in the person of Mr. 
by to. 

Qnttn Mary. Two old Plays, by Decker andWebtter,| 
nnd Thomas Hcywood. Newly Edited by Willii 
John Blew, with & Pr^fntory Lsfapr on the Relational 
of the Old and Modern Dranuu m thia Chapter ' 
History. (Piok<rii>g) 
IT ERK are two ohl play«, Thie Fumnus History of Sir TAoinc 
U'}/a(tt fttid that very singulnr drama, ff i^nu Know a< 
Aff^fon Know y»fKtdy ; or, tht TrouhUi of Qu^en Ehu 
brth. The latter bat been recently reprinted in Oer»| 
many. They afford opportunity for compariiou wtLk 
Mr. Tennyson's ^w*<*a J/ary^ and the two book* may be 
botmd together. Mr. Blew*! essay will repay perusal, 
and it should be read «fter the two old plays and a re> 
reading of the Poet Lnureute's. 

The Ltrntathirt Lihrary : a BibUographIca! Account of 

Books <^n Topography, Btograpliy, Uiitory, Science, 

and Mi«cellttneou.<i Literature relating to the County 

Palatine. Including an Account of Lancashire 

Tracts, Pamphlets, and yermons Printed before the 

Year 1720; with Collations, and Biblioeraphica(» 

Critical, and Biographical N«.tte« on the Rooks ami 

Authors. By Lieut. Col. Henry Fish wick, F.S.A. 

(Routledge k Sons.) 

All that the above copioui title page promises or im* 

pHcB is perfectly accomplt^lied in the stjcceedtng pagei. 

Col, Fiebwick ha* remlered most valaable and trr\pof tant 

service, not merely to the County Palatine^ hut to the 

literature of England generally. The neoesaary Irtboor 

must hare been eiiorm«iuf, and none eeemi to have been 

rpnred in order to give inqnirers alt the information that 

could be got together of authors, works, and the selling 

price of th» latter, coitncc tod with tho imporiant ihire 

of Lancaster. 

By Edward 8. Monc. M.D. 

Firtl Book of Zoology, 

|H. S. King ft Co.) 
*'Ca n*Qit <}ii« le pTcm\cT^«a 

VJuVftJ* utAlwt ^vsv 



[P* 8. V. JAsr. S, »7€. 

«rhelp to mnko a firat ttop Bftfely in the »tudy of any 
Bcienco the student ie often kept from niMkiiig vrogrcsj. 
Di% Morse, under^tindiiig youthful folk nthii^t for 
knowlcdfe, hu girert them just sucli a wark at young 
loologiitd require in thia Fit/t limk. 
Wifii ft/ Oku. Curious*, Eccentric, and B[;neTolcnt 
Collected und Armnged by William Ta^g. {Togg k 

HrRE ere % hundred and odd pagct of niattera grave 
and pay, and all full of character- They are all true 
i\Hi, and they -^r<? worth a «core of buoks of fiction written 
only fur auiiiaemeut. 

«ADTHO]ts aru Qt70TATio»8 Waktei* (6"' S. T. 19.)— 
•' The glowinj* )K>rtrjvit«, frerfi from life, that brjuj; 
Home tr> tho hoort." kc, 
From Uyriiu'^* Mitttotiy ort M^ 2)<a/A of Sheridan. 
" Deep sighted in int(.dligcnce». 
Ideas, atoBi!". iuflaence^/' 

Undibra*, part i. c. L 1. 533. 


•' Tlie Spring pctttms," kc. 

The porm imiuired for is an Ele^, written in Sprinp, 
by Michael firucc (born 1746), ebortly before his death, 
July, 1767, and bei^inning, " Tia \'Mt : tho irtm North 
htijt'dpent bis rii^e." The uixteen'h vcrwe is thi»: — 
"Now, Spring retunia : but not to mo returns 
The vernnl joy my Vetteryearw huve known; 

Dim in my breast life'* dyinp taper burn«, 

Ajid all til" joys of life with health are fl /wn," 
BcTcn veriea fullow. Sepnrftied from tho e:irlier veraof, 
" Now SpriDpr returns '' i»»« set to mufeic by * A Lady " 
brtore the cloic of the century. A pnntctJ copy h in tho 
British Muccum collection of En^iUah sonj:?, prtss innrk 
G. 7'M. The po*m. an intereating relic of poor Bruce, 
U iu Sharpe'ii liniM Poets, Iv. 91. J. W. E. 

Molaah, by Aahford, Kent 

Surely .MiUon'a tinea {Paratlitt Li»t, bk. iii. 40) 
bcgiiininjf, "Thu* with the yenr," mu»t be tho DAP of 
I». A. D/» (5'* 8. T. 19) i if not, the rolationsiiip is a very 
cIo6« one. F. E.dl£. 

Ajj Olp Carol (f)"* S. t. P.)— This carol is too lonR to 

JlUOte in fuU ; it in printed in The Merric f/eart ; u Vol- 
rctiun of flavour ite Nuritn-if Rhtfiticx hy M. E. Q. 
<London, C.«Mell, Tetter & tiaipin), ' HEirr F. 

Scci Halliwoira xV«r*cry Rkyvtet. H. 

I Ml 

I Oil 

I>TATfr OF W. DuRmA5T CooFEE, F.8.A-— It ifl with 
il> : that we haTe<to record the death of one of 

I coiiiriUittjra to tliese column*, Ma. W, 1>cp.- 

: ' I II, \rhich took place on the 28th ult. M'R. 

CvuFiii hud for many year* taken an nctive ftTid mieful 
j»art in the inaiiajfeiitent of the Camden iind other lite- 
rary and anti(juuii'in societies and hi^d etiited various 
io^ks for then*. He was one of the proiaoter« of tho 
Sussex Anjhajuhigical Society, in the wclfure of which ho 
look great interest, and was a contributor of many valu- 
able &rtick>a to the <Suracx Arehttitl<»pcalJournnl—otie 
of the moBt importiut of our local antiquarian journals. 
Hia tSiittfx (Jhfmty miid hta JJiUoiy oj Wmclithetf fur- 
ninh other proi'fa oC the tritereftt he took in the literary 
ilhtblratinn of his native county, where hu uarntr will long 
bo remembered iwith regard, as it will among a Urge 
circle of London friends, 

** CHtetTcxHAM Christmas Versks" (5" S. iv. 5r>4.J— 
Thceo veries, fluid by our correapondent W, B. Stkco- 
^«Li. to be sung annually at the door of every houac in 
CheUenbaoi, have, since they were in type, recalled to 
memory some of the literature of childhood, and we find 

them quoted by Mim Ediceworth (in Hoiinmond[). See 
Lucy Aikin'i f'otirv for Vhildrt'*. Tho original Rf*h>nt 
Pttttitm. baa conHiderably auffered in the wordt taken 
down •* from ii sturJy country boy." Aa to another fact, 
the editor of tho alile local paper. The Chdienham Mtr- 
rwrv. Bays : " Wo venture to assert that tho * oldest in- 
habitant.' ifhecould ijc a«ked to corn»boratc th.^ amettiou 
that the ' caro! U aung at the door of cvHry houie in this 
t>>wn at Chrietmaa-tide." woald u&y that his memory tttiMt 
be very defective, as it was never sung within bidr«mexD- 

Messrs. Chatto k Wikpus have nocomplithed a note-, 
worthy taak. They have publi§hed a fac-aimile of 
folio edition of Shakspean; of 1»J"2'3. One copy of tl 
original was ar>ld for TOO/. The fac-«imile costs but: 
few BbilUiigs. The type is amritl. but le^j^iMc ; and 
whole thin< is marvellous as a curiusity, and very mi 
to be desired for a posseBsian. 

A HKW edition of Tttt ingoid^hy L*gi>%di, in 
elegant»le volumes, has been iwued by Mr- 
ley, tt wHl puKTilc him, next year, to produce another 
more twiteful and gem-like than thii. 

Ilaticr^ to Cnrrr^liciitUrriltf. 

Uk all communicationa abouM be written the namaatid 
addrc»!< of the aondorf not necesaarily for pubJioattoin, 
VL» a Liiiarantee of good fnitb, 

Jaukz.— Charles Edward, tho "YontJg ProtBndaf,*_ 
creattrd his illcjcitinrntij daii^hter, by I^liss Wn Ik en thaw/ 
DnchtMs of Albany. The I>ucho-H died unmarried ia 
1789, the year after her father's death. The lirio^ 
Chcirlea Edward Stuart ia not old enough to claim to be 
her eon ; and if he werej it would not help him ii 
c'aim to be the legitimate representative of tiie 
prince, Charles Ednard. 

CiiiciiELE Fa MILT.— Some correapondcn'" ^"^v 
intoreated in th" following; extmct from i\. 
toKue of JWr. Brougli of Hirniinjrham :— *' <- 
Account of the Familrea derived from Thoma- Uhichi! 
or' Higham Ferrt-rs, in tho Co. of Northampton, 
plate*, and nearly 3Q0 Pedigreres of Families, old 
IOj. 13</. Privately printed, 17t>5." 

W. F. (Bury St. Edmunds.) -All that U wonted 
with regard lo " Not lost, but gone before," is nn ci 
in-tatrCt; of similar word^ proviouB to that afforded in 
epiuph on Mary Angell, who died 16^11 (** N. k Q. 
8. iv. 627;. 

Cahtab.— Strift'a Meditation upon a Broomi 
according to the HhfU and Manner of the Ho/i^ fh 
Boi/tt'a McditatwHSf is to be found in all editions 
Swift'a works. See also Mr, Forstcr'a Lif^ of S^i 
vol. i. p. -ilS. 

If Beta (S'^'S. v. 9) will commnnicata with roe, T 
perhaps help him as to the tatter part of bin qtierj.* 
K. Bloxam, County Chambers, Exeter. 

A. L, 0.— Sec "N. k Q," y" S. iv. 451. 
W. U. B.— Already recorded. 
N. B. W.— Next week. 

B. E. N, -^Accept our warmest tbanki. 


Kditortal Communicaiiona should be addreised to ** Tl 
Editor of ' Notca and Queries'"— A dvcrtiaeiBeiiti 
BuMRcss TiBttera to " Tht l'ubli»her "— at the Offiot, 
Wellington Street, Strand, London, W.C. 

We beg leave to state thut w« decline to return com* 
munications which, fyr any reason, we do not print,- 
to thia rule we can make no exception. 




L0jr90Jt, idjr&nA y, jakvarv ia, ir*. 

CONTEXTS. -N* 107. 

IfCyTB3>«T\EBa7loa«ld8bcnef, *1— The Freoch SUtc Paper 
O n t^—JBttoa't lt wrti y> 4S — Mrt. Blnckea, a DiiUEihtcr of 
til* PriBOM CHivc— Tbv M&Dtia, or HotU^ntot Ood, H— New 
TuiJmlll IfytiUil Atb«fMHtU, 45— The Exticuti^ibcr Ctf 
L — ••GeMBerty" — I^ijrzDolo^ of "Goldea/* co. 
: Bavjrmn «nd MAaUlon, 40. 

QUZRi;^ :— " Th» Pt*ct!c* of Piety "— Bfv, — Birch, Eector 
C< Hdo^bUM CMvjnect. Bedfonl. 47— Lkweljn ap Grimth 
•ad lui t> a c»B d » n to— Heraldic— Sir B. Wrcjoch, M.D.— 
FUls — PTt^fieformiktlQii Church Plate — ThotnM 
Gnj't Inn GuinsR "— N€e<l Fira— Heraldic— 
D*»id— "The Soaet7of iJlui? aud Orange." 4S 
— **Tbe Ukbop*! had his fool in it"— Marjorlil Conrts- 
Xke Seavenffd^ (MBott in the Seveoteeath Lcutuiy— Swmtoo 

:— -ITie Boffi,"4d-"Caldei"— PoeU tli© Muten 

: 'noUen— Knighta Templars, 32- 

BMnsdaiD," &3— Leases for tJU or (nxt 

of lABf 

GMMi kaigbt"— Canon Law— The Humrolng-Top 
Ic^ ftl— lioutae Latean— " Ek> nnto othen," j:c— Tlui 
«f Kxecaton— The Pie-Sfnkert ami Artiita to 
of the SeTcDteenth and Eighteenth Centniiei In 
GfMl BMtabi. &&-£. 8. Per?', M.F.-8kikelthorpo— WU^ 
Ham. UHfd Earl of Pembroke -A rftbella FltxJ4ine«— The 
I— Mrui-o'-the-WlBp- " Nea»": To Lamm, m 
I— The Ori^n and J^yrnJ^Kiltfira of the C*r- 
l« Bad fiat — '* Lunclieou "— L<jr-1 Ljtton'j ^*Kin|C 
;* *7— llfracombe— Trcenwore— iloounicntiit tnscrip- 
tlMM ia y^nnao-Frwich, 5S. 

Kebs ea Bodb^ 4c. 

I* Ibe p«nille]iana pointed out by Mr. BcLlex 
ly^ S. W. 464) more tluui one of msmy indications 
ftt ibe tuppence exercised over the niind of our 
lMna»te, ^*hen joun^;, by Shelley \ In the margin 
•rf my ropy I have noted many such, starting from 
)iii iir,t tifi>>lished work. Tht Chorus^ in the 
y re-echoes Shelley's poem on Deiitb : — 

_„ Ht\v the countleia forma 

i'! „'», the won Jrous tones 

i beast, are fall of strange 
,\'C. n-iiment and boundless charge/' 

'' AU that U great and all that; is strange 
ta t}je boundless realm of uneoding chango." 

I(Bny«oo*s Xo Mort^—^ 
"Oh ii«l AQ more J oh sweet no more f 
t»h itrange no wort / 
• * « « • 

Surelr all T>Ica«ant thingi had gone befor«« 
Low buriea fathomn-deop beneath with thee. 


-forcibly reminds one of Shelley's Lametitf of 
'iuch here is the last stanza : — 

" Oat of the day and night 

A joy baa t^en flight : 
tttem spring and aununcr and winter hoar 
lloT« my faint heart irith grief, but irith delight 
JKo more — ob, neter more • " 

Tcunyton'* Kraken, 

battezusg oo huge sea- 

wonns in his sleep," recuilld the Demogorgon*a 
words in Prometheus Unbound — " the dull weed 
some Bea-worm battens on." In The Poet, 1830, 
Tennyson writes :— 

^' Wisdom a name to shake 
Roar anarchies h& with a thunder-fit." 

This reciills the *' tempeat-cleaving swan" of 
Shelley's lines in the Enganean hilU, who drank 
the ocean's joy till it became hia — 

"And sprung 
From his lips like muaic flung 
O'er a mighty thunder-fit, 
Cl!;a«t<iiing terror.*' 

Hie PocV* Mind atfordji another illiistr.ition — 
" Clear and bright it should b© ever," says Tenny- 
son ; " bright m light, and clear as wind." Com- 
pare Shelley's The i:iunsci: — 

" There hUe vim one, within whose subtle being, 
As light and VNJnd within some delicate cloud, 
« « • « • 

Genius and Death contended." 

But a more remnrktible coincidence occurs between 
a passage of the same poem and some lines in the 
Fromdheut Unbound: — 

" In the heart of the garden the merry bird chants^ 

• • • • » , 

In the middle leops a fountain. 
Like iheet lightning 
Ever brightening, 
With a low melodir>u<3 thunder. 
All day nnd t ight it is evt-r drawn 

rrorii the brnin of tho ymrple inountaiii 
Which alands in the di<<tance yonder ; 
It spring? on a level of bowery lawil," &c. 

Shelley thtia sings : — 

" And a fountain 
LeAfs in the midst with ftn airakeuini; sound. 
From its currod ronf the mountain's frozen tears 

• « « » * 

Hang dfjwnwarJ, raining forth a doubtful light, 
And there is heard the ever-movin^g air 
Whispering without from tree to tree, and birds 
And bees; and all around are mossy seats, 
And tho rough walla arc clothed wiih long soft graw." 
Prvmdkoit Cnbonndj iii, 3, 

F'iimiliar passnge^'i from Tennyson's Mennaid 
and Mfrman are recalled by these lines from the 
Promdhcus Unbound:^ 

*' Behold the Nereidt under the green sea, 

* • * « • 

TJieir white arn'iS lifted o'er their streaming hair. 
With garlanda pied and stiirrj seailower crowns." 

The ''crowns of sea-lrtSda white" are alluded 
to in Shelley's Rosalind and Hdtn. Again, in 
Tennyson's EUdnor€f — 

** My heart a charmed slumber keeps» 

* • • « • 

And a Innguid fire creeps 

Through my veins to all ray frame, 

Diseolvingly and slowly, 

and then, as in a swoon. 

With dinning sound my ears fik.t« t\t«| 



[S^-S. V.jA|f.l5/71BL 

Jlly tremulous tongtie faltereth, 

I hjie iny colour, I lose my breath, 

I ilriiik the ctip of a costly death 
Brtmm«d mth delirious druu^btd of warmest life, 
i die with my delight/' kc, 

— we have something very like an echo of Shelley's 
poem To Connfantia: — 
" My bmin is wild, my breath cornea <}uic1tj 
'The blood is listening in uiy frarne, 
And throtiging ehudowj, fast und thick, 

Full on mj oTerf lowing cyea ; 
My heart ta quiyering like n flftme, 
As morning dew in the lunbeam lies, 
I am dissolved in theao consuming ecitasioi." 

It is trae that such passages belong very uiucb 
to that section of iinaormiitive composition which 
the " iDgenioua Mr. Dousterswivel ^* thought it 
would he possible to construct by m^ichinery, und 
are to some extent the property of all poeta, We 
hiive the sttine thought in Keats : — 

"Twasto live 
To take in draughts of life from the gold fount 
Of kind and paaaionate looki." — Entlpnion, 

The siinilo in Ftdim'i ("a3 sunlight drioketh 
dew ") is identienl with thnt in Shelley's Bdlas, 
" Ab the sua driukK the dew," "Widely dissimilar 
as the poems are, some curioms points of resem- 
hlance may be traced in the Palace nf Art and 
Pder Bdh Though with a difterent appUeation, 
Tennyson's metaphor, 

" A star that with the ehoral itarry dance 
Joined not, but stood," 

la to be found in Shelley's Einpsychidim : — 

*" A star 
Whi:oh moToa not in the moving heaftns, alone." 

The phrase " softer than sleep " of the Palace of 
Art also occurs in f>hel!ey'a Eosalind and Hthn, 
though, of course, it is a thought as old as the hills : 
•' Mufcoai fontesj et somno motlior hsrba/* 

Virgil, Ed. Tii. 45. 
The quotations would stretch too fiir, hat a 
comparison of the close of the Lotoji-EaUrs with 
Shelley's Revolt of Ishw, i. 2!1, viii. 5, h in- 

The epilogue to the fragment, Mori d'Arthurj^-^ 
" On to dawn, when dreami 
B^ginto feel the truth and stir of day," 

— is like Shelley's Hdlm: — 

*'The truth of day lightens upon my dreami/' 
Compar<? The Gardejia's Darf^/iifr,— 
" And in her bosom bore the baby. Sleep," 
— with Shelley's Quim Mah:— 

« On their lids 

The baby Sleep is pillowed." 
There are points of reaemhlance, too, which 
suggest that the germ of the noble poem Lochkif 
Bail max he found in Shelley's "fiit^inzas, April, 
1814." In each i>oein we have the hall, the moor- 
land, the rapid douda flying round it, the abrupt 
and eilective transition to the "serene lights of 

heaven," the recurrence to bygone love, the lov 
wronged and indignant ; in each the fair one aaci 
ficcs love to duty ; in each the betrayed lor 
propbesie.i that memory shall bo her curse, tl 
phantom of happier things rememl>ered shall c©d 
and go like dim shades, and that petvce will be ii 
possible for the memory of 

*' The music of two voices and the light of one Bwe«t smili 

'' Our spirits niflhed together &t the touching of ti 


in LochUy H"M, is like 

*■ When Boul meets soul on lovers* lips," 
in the Promethmg Unbound. 
The nightingale who {Poet's Song) 

'• Thought, I hare sung many songv, 
But never a one so giy^— 
For be ainga of what the world will be 
When the years have died away;'— 

might have been suggested again by the 
metfuus Unhound, ii. 2, where we read of 
♦' Those wse and lovely aongs . . . 
Of the chained Titan's wofui doom ; 
And how he shall be loosed., and make the eart 
One brotherhood r delightful Btralns, which, cl 
To silence the unenvying nigbtingalea/' 

My note haa already grown to such a length J 
I am iishamed of it, I will only add yne ori 
instances from the \pem from which Mr. BitlI 
quotes, the PrinctsA : — 

''Inland the smile, that like a wrinkling wlad 
Oti jjlassy wattr droTe his cheek in linea/* 

Princtftt '}• 
" O'er the visage wan , j 

Of Athanase, a ruffling atmosphere 
Of dark emotion, a swift shaJow ran, 
Like wind upon some forest-boaomed lake 
Glassy and dark.*'— Shelley, PHnce Athanatt, 

" They were atill together, grew 

iFor so they said themselves) inosculated, 
Jonsonant ciionia that ihiver to one noto.*' 

Pi i nasty] 
" We^-ure we not formed, as notes of music lire. 
For one another, though disairailar? " 

Shelley, Epiptychidit 

** Since to look on noble forms 
Makes noble, through the sensuous organism, 
That which is higher."— Pn'?i«M, IL 72. 
•* So he, 
With ioal-aufltttining Bonga and sweet debates 
Of ancient lore, there fed his lonely being. 
The mind becomea that which it contemplates ; 
And thus Zonoraa, by for ever seeing 
Their bright creations, grew like wisest men/ 
Shelley, Prina A ihaMiUt 

•'A doubtful smile dwelt like a clouded moon 
In a still water.'"— Prj'nfw*, vi, 

" His wan eyea 
Gaie on the empty scene as vacantly 
Ai ocean's moon looks on the moon m heaven. 

Shelley, Ah»t<i>r, 

5»8. V.Ju. W.IIJ 



*' If she be mmSi, ilig.lit^nft^tured. miflembie, 

How-«haiI BSD grow ) "-—Princfu, tu. 
" CftJi w*a bt firM if fromftn be a ilave I " 

Bhellej, Rtvott o/ /</om, ii. 

It would be CM7 enough, no doubt^ to extend 
thes»^ ,mr.f umoa. I only give what have occurred 
to ectiaional reading of ihe poets, of 

bot ( :u, like Mr. BuLLEJf, I am an ad- 

^l£ can scarcelj be needful to say that I have no 
^K« to suggest a charge of plaginrism. No 
^^pt the some parallelism might be illustrated 
^Hi the works of any one who haa been at the 
mgb taue a wide and appreciative reader and a 
nimer. Moth. 


ffuloirt tit» t^j"-'t da Archiva du Aifaxra Etrdnglra 

u FartM «K LoH^f en 1710, d Veriniita t)i 1763, tt de 

;fi««w» •• Paris en Divtrt Btulroiu tUpuit 1796. Pur 

Anumd BucheL Bio. Parif, Plon. 

I Third Article. I 

The second book of M. Armand Baschet's vo- 

I Itimc tale4 m to Versailles, where the Duke de 

Cbomil transferred the Foreign Stiite Paper 

' Office. Celebrated by hia liberal tendencies?, und 

bj his constant opposition to Maduine Dubarry^ — 

tion which brought about hia disgrace — 

al wfw in every respect a most dietinj^uisbed 

and, as our author remarks, he well deserves 

taken as the subject of some carefully pre- 

btog^mphyj for which materials are not want* 

big. Hia e:irly education had been neglected, and 

he Vffis not naturally of a Htudiou» diKposition ; 

n circumstance* placed him amidst the 

es of political life, he devoted his atten- 

tioa Ui hiatory, and ever Jifterwardii he encouraged, 

ev«ry means in his power, those persons who 

J talent for historical researches. Fully 

g the importance of bringing together 

umente bearing upon the foreign rela- 

lioa« of France, he gave the necessary orders for 

th* f.nij;^,, furnishing, and decoration of an 

• lilies, iuid the works were completed 

" 'v which aeenis perfectly u^toniphing. 

^' f u-'V\ Pari3 in T763, the Archives des 

Aii..ifr. j ,rr :>;:' f*^^ remabed at Veraailles till 17!>6j 

a Charles I>eiacroix, Minister of Foreign Aftairs, 

tbem to be moved back again to the 

of the most important events connected 

portion of history is the appointment of 

de Ditrofi' aa keeper of the Foreign 

iper Office instead of M, Le Dran. The 

ion took place in 1762, and having been 

kted to accompany the French ambas&ador, 

ike de Nivemais, to London, M. Durand 

Pived the excellent ideji of examining the 

loa* quantity of historical documents*, chiir- 

tiil^-deed?, letters, &c., reUtiag to France, 

iind preserved either in the Tower or elsewhere. 
The occupation of Normtmdy and Gtiienne by the 
English, during the fifteenth century, hiid natu- 
rally placed in the possession of the conqueror a 
number of state papers very valuable in their 
charticter, and which were equally interesiinj,' to 
France and to England. Would it not be possible 
to obtain leave to catalogue tho^e pupenf, sort 
them, copy them, and perhaps oht«in the gift of a 
few of the originals i From M. Damnd's letter, 
published by M. Baschet, it appeiirs thiit the Eng- 
lish Government, whilst refusing to part with any 
of the documonts thetii?>elves, were disposed to 
entertain favourably the rest of the demand ; and 
the final issue was a mission entrusted to M. de 
Brt'tpiigny, who, under the direction of the Duke 
de Choiseul-Praslin, visited this country twice, ivnd 
took back to France a rich harvest of historical 
documents, filling no less than ninety Isirge port- 
folios. The Ricueil dcs OrdonnanaSj the TahU 
iliTonohgiquc ties Chariu cohurnani tHUioirt de 
FranctykQ.y maybe named amongst the moat note- 
worthy residts of M. de Brequigny's scientific tour, 
accounts of which have been given by MM. < 'haia- 

E>llion-Figeac, Jules Delpit, L^'opold Delialc, and 
onis Paris, to say nothing of the comjdc'rfndn 
which the explorer contributed to the Tran*fidiong 
of the Acadvmie des Inscriptions et Belles Lettres 
(vol. xxvii.). 

Anquetil and Lemontey are the two most dis- 
tingutyhed writers whom we can name in conne.vioE 
with the Revohitionary period of the Depot de* 
Affaires ttrangeres ; they were freely admitted to 
study and copy the documents uccunuilated at 
Versailles, and made excellent us© of their oppor- 
tunities, GUSTAVE MASBOtr^ 

The Timts of Dec. 20, 1875, in a review of a 
book upon forest trees,* has given prominence to 
a statement of some errors in forestry said to be 
committed by Milton. With your permission, I 
will essay a reply to the attack. I copy from the 
Timet. " Thus " (says the reviewer) 
" MUton*B PcnBeroso^ wandering m 

* Arched walks of twilight grotei 

And ehadowB brown that SyWiin lovei 

Of pine or monumental oak,' 
hiB hitherto met with gcDertil approvAl, but Mr. Menzies 
wili have none of hiui. * No reuaon is kqown why tho 
oak ihoQlcJ be e&lleil " monuraont&l," and the whole poft- 
Kige IB ratb«r confused. Pinea and ouks seldom grow 
together naturally. The soil which producet one tree 
would not Buit the other, and neither of them is remark- 
iiblc for givinij '* arched walki" or **th<idowB brown/'* 
Bat wliat Mr. Men^ies thinks to be^ perhaps, the poet'a 
two we&keBt lines, 

* Fomt Tna ond Woodland Scimry, tx* dttcriUd m 
Ancient and Madtrn Poets. By W. Menziea. (Long- 
mans. ) 



[G^* 8. V. Jan. 15/76. 

• Under the ehndy roof 
Of bundling elm starproof,' 
though undeniably open to the accusation he ch»r^ei 
upon them, hu-vc earoly a beauty of tbek own, which 
pleads iM?»iin»t g'Uch condomnfttion. ' The elm/ inya 
Mr. Slenzies, ' ia one of the thumeit f«lifige<i trcea of 
the forest. After the lirst flush of sprinti the Jeayea 
begin to fade ; many drop, and long before the autumn 
they bei?in to shrivel, and present anything but a star- 
proof canopy.' This, however, i* not the most severe 
piece of criticism iQ the volume* Few pftsaages in Pttradist 
Lotl »re better known than the faniouH comparison of 
the fallen Archangel to a tree blasted by lightning :— 
* Ai when Heaven's fire 

Hath scathed the forest oaks or naountain pines 

With singed top their stately growth thoui;h bare 

Stands on the blasted heath.' 
It \A not clear, says Mr. Menasiea, whether the poet 
means that the lightning singes the tops of both oaks 
and pines, or only those of the latter trei? ; but in either 
case he is falae to Nature. The n«k. Indeed^ is liable lo 
II sort of baldness, alluded to by Sbakspeare, but the 
lightning ncrer singes its top. It cither shiTers the tree 
to aloQia, or cuts one long deep furrow dovra the stems, 
or diTides into three or four groorea, twisting and making 
the trunk like a corkicrew." 

Now (t<y take the points in order), Keightley 
tells UF5 the oak h culled " jiionumental " because 
monumenta in churchea arc often formed of carved 
oak. fie cites 

" Smooth aa monumental alabaster." 

Othdh, T. % 
and I'ljvys IMilton probiibly had io mind ** the builder 
oak " of Chaucer and Spenser, and wished to en- 
hance on it ; and that nothing, l>esideK, was more 
suitable to the Penseroso thi\n to think of the 
most solemn use to which the oak was put. I pass 
by Mr, Menzies's opinion that ** the whole passage 
is rather confused,'' and come to the statement 
that " pinei and oaks seldom grow together natu- 
rally.*' Milton does not my they do. But there 
is authority for saying that the pine will ^^tqvv m 
every de^jcription of soil and situation, thoiigli it 
thrives best in ;^ood timber soil It might, there- 
fore, well grow beside the oak, which will also 
grow in every variety of soil. Possibly Milton 
here speaks of the iJex or holm-oak — a monumental 
tree in another sense, fur Pliny mentions some m 
existin<j in his time which must have been l,4tM> 
or 1,5(>0 years old, and one of which had brazen 
letters in the ancient Etruscan chanicter fixed 
upon ita trunk. The ilex may have been known 
to iNIilton through books, for he was a ^eat reader 
of books of travel ; and he m.iy have ,seen it, for it 
appears to hiive been introduce*! into Enftlnnd 
about the middle of the Bixteenth century. Both 
the pine and the ilex tend to form "arched walks" 
by their freedom from low boughs :ind by their 
dense upper foliagfe. It ia noticeable that the 
poet chooses the pme and the oak, and never men- 
tions the yew, though every time he entered the 
church nt Horton he must hav» seen two fine trees 
of this kind ; which favours Keightley'.s explana- 
tion. But there are, or were, several oaks in 

"Windsor Forest, within a walk of Horton, whiob 
are " monumental ^ in the onlinary senge of th* 
word. Keigbtley also tells us the word " browd* 
is used in the .sense of the Itidian hruno^ dark. So 
far upon the Feuneroso. Now for the Arcadu, 
The weak point of the objection here i:* that tbo 
objector faik to see that the description is specific^ 
and not arbitrary. The meaning is — 

Under fhi* shady roof 

Of branching elm starproof 

Follow me, 

i.e. (probably) under the elm avenue at Hurefiell 
called •* the 'Queen's Widk^" in honour of Qu( 
Elizabeth's visit to the Lord Keeper and Count 
of Derby at the end of July, 1602. 

In the simde from FaradiM Lost, and elst 
Milton very justly uaea the oak and pine to expnm 
majesty and strength. He isj besides, happy hew 
in his choice of the oak, since it probably is mow 
often scathed by lightning than any other tree. 
The " singed top " is perhaps less defensible, I 
am not, however, concerned to prove Milton ao 
infallible writer on foiestry, but merely to sea 
justice done him, if ho be judged, — even by tl» 
Deputy Keeper of the Parka and Forests of 
Wind.^or. J. L. Walkke. 


Mrs. Binckes, a Daughtek of the PnTX'-ir« i 
Olive. — In a private and confidential 
which m now before me, which does not re] . 
the remotest degree to Mrs. Serres or her t-l. 
bnt contains reference.^ to many public and pol i. 
personages, mention is made of a " Mrs, Binckes, 
who was a daughter of the Princess Olive, and 
thereby related to the Royal Family." From 
another passage in the same letter, wliich is dated 
in 1S71, it appears that Mrs, Binckes had, aoin« 
time previously, retired to the Continent. As 
a periijsal of the letter leaves little doubt tl>»t 
Mrs. Bincke-s claimed to be a daughter of the 
Princess Olive, and the writer believed her to " 
so, I "make a note" of it for Mr. Thoms's info 
mat ion, M. L. 

The MANTts, or Hottentot God, — The 
lamented Dr. BleeVs notes on Buahman Folk-1 
throw a great deal of light on the myt] 
and traditions! of that curious but almost 

ople, especially on the subject of the 
Mantis pre(^aria of naturalists). As far 
tlie time of Kolben, the veneration of the Hot 
races (with whom he confounds the Bushmen) 
well known, and they were auppoaed to worship 
It ifj an insect of a bright green colour, belonj 
to a family of orthoptcroua insects, holda up 
forelegj* as if in the act of prayer, and can hai 
be drstinguished firom the plant on which 
reats, Dr. Bleek, in his kat report on Bui 
Folk-lore (Cape Town, 1676), aays of it :— 

6"8. V.JiX. liitGL) 



'^ Although tbe imtitis i* upparcntly tl)Q most pro- 
minent ftTTJf* in Htrtltfiuftn Rjvthijflogy, and, at k11 ctents^ 
th«sut' luher of mytlm, yet it 4oc9 

not tec t of any worship or tUat 


The 1 san, moon* and sUrs, are, 

lio^^' md thus the BuHhmen are 

cl d amoB;^; the nations who 

1 real AVorahip. The Bushmen 

< is a man from whose armpit 

In , and who lived formerly on 

ih, l>i»t *»al V >fiive light for a space around his own 

i3«. Some children belonf^tng to the first Buah- 
tnen were, therefore, sent to throw up the sleeping 
nun into the sky. Since thea be shines all over 
the earlh. In Bushaum mytholofrj the moon is 
looked uj>on tLi a niitn who incurs the wrath of the 
sn ■ - I tly pierced by the knife, i. "Cm 

tl :\ T\iU process is repeated 

ir >.iiuJe of the moon is cut away 

sr ttle piece K*ftj which the moon 

pii- — .. ^.^ il.e sun to isiKkre, for his children's 
■like, i-'roni ihiji little piece the moon {.'radnuJlv 
gTowa ugain till it becomes u full moon, when the 
euD^ cutting and stabbing procefisea recommence. 

The dax*e or tiyritx, the Bible coney of the rocks, 
is csUle^^l by the Bushmen the wife of the mantis, 
and the pc*rcupine their adopted daughter, Avho 
has A SCO, the ichneumon^ who plays aa important 
purt ia Bti^braan mythology. 

Atio^ IS myth ia that the moon is formed 

ctmn • I the manti.^, which he threw into 

tke sky w.LLi an order that it should become the 
moon. Tbui the m<Jon ia red because the shoe 
of tXi*' •• "•' .:is covered with the red dust of 
Bnahii fid coM because it ia only leather* 

Soai „„ -hut the mantis misleads BushmeOi 

hj putting evil ideas in their heads. Boshmen 
women aso a curious charm, made from the foot of 
tbft htftbeett, for their children, aa a protection 
•^fott the mantis. 

Many other curious traditions are found in Dr. 
Blcck a reiearches, but they require the use of a 
peculiar type to properly illustrnte them. 

H. Hall. 

Lftrctider Hill. 

Kr*" ZEALA?fDER*— This famoufl allusion of 
MftCftaby's I rcmeniber to have seen traced to 
Shtnl/'v. liii it w.n. ir?! to have belonged no nioro 
t ly. Happening to look 

ir , ITSO, Ixii, 129, I cjune 

fil a bouk of p4>ems published in 

IT r I couple of extracts of verse from 

i* v remarks, amoDgst which occurs the 

1' ' ntence : — 

- itip|>rt(tctJ to ti»it the rains of London ; 
* ! Briton, wLo officiates ai Cicerone, ia 

J. . ..: , ...L, 

it t >: of the book In given in full as follows, 
ftvbi mlii'.h it AppefiTs that the ruined portico of 

St. Paur^s is the site of meditation, and uot tlie 
broken arch of London Bridge :— 

*' Poetns by a young noblcmati, of dlstiaguidhed 
abilitica, lately deccft»ed, p^irlicularly the itato of Eng- 
land, and the one© flounshinRr city of Lomlon. In a 
letter from an American tmveHer, d^tcd from the ruinou* 
portico of St Paul'i in the yenr 21 99, to a frieni settloil 
in Boaton, the motropor«i of the Western Empire. Also 
Rundry fugitive pieces, princtpatiy wrote whiiet upon his 
travels on the Cootinont. 4to. 2i, 6d. Kearsty, 1760." 

There was a very clever book published in 
French, styled L'An £/mix Milte Quairc Cfni 
Quaranlc: Btve s'll tn fut jainaig. I do not know 
in what year it first appeared, but an edition was 
given in London, 1773. It is evident that the 
above vision of the year 2199 was suggested 
by the French book. The vision in the last 
chapter of the French book treats of the ruin of 
VersaillcB, '* ce palais superbe, d'ou partoient Ics 
deatinees de plusieura nations"; the seer tr^ds 
amongst its mmed basins and fallen columns, and, 
wandering, meets a man of contrite air in tears. 
*' Why weep," he cries, *' when aO the world is happy ? 
This wretched relic testifies to nothing but the 
public misery that existed when these ganlens were 
flcurishinrr." — " Miserable man," replied the wan- 
derer, "it wiiB I, LouiH XIV., who built thia 
woe-stricken piilace : * Je pleure et je pleurera; 
toujours,' " Our Frenchman was about to reply to 
the kingly shade when an adder irpriinj^ from the 
stump of a column on which it lay coiled ; it stung 
him in the neck, and he awoke. 

I suppose that all the foregoing must be known 
to some readers, but I have never yet seen the 
facts placed in connexion with the celebrated 
wimilc of the New Zealander, so that possibly it 
may be worth chronicling in " N- &> Q" This 
tuggests a work worthy of the labour of a man 
of wide reading, viz. The Growth of Fables, lUua- 
trations, and Similes in Universal Literature, from 
the Earliest Times to the Present Century. It is 
manifest that some similes develope according to 
the same law that governs the growth of national 
melodies, by change of note, by fall and turn of 
bar or key, by spontaneous change in rccitiil at the 
advent of every fresh genius, suggestion being 
caught from suggestion. C. A* Ward. 


Hetwood : Athes.:ecs. — It has not been 
pointed out, so far as I know, that the amuaing 
passage in Hey wood's English Tmvelkr, describing 
the "shipwreck by drink," is also related in Athe- 
ntcus (Deipnoioph, lib. ii. sect, v.), where it ia 
ciuoteii from Timreus of Tauromenium. Casau- 
boo's edition of Athena^us came out in 1597, and 
again, with a Latin tninslation, in 16CH\ The 
edition of 16(>() was probably in Heywood's hands 
when writing this passage, which, according to 
Charles L.^mb, **for its life and humour might 
have been told or acted by Petruchio himself.'* 



It h possible that I may have been anticipated m 
my remarks by the Inte ^Ir, Dyce, whose un- 
fiDished translation of Athena'us is now among 
his books at the South Kensington Museum, and, 
as I learn from Mr. Forster's bioj^pMcal sketch 
of Dyee in this month's Fortnighthu in a Btate not 
far from completion. I have myself not yet had 
an opportunity of examining this translation. 


Worcester College, Oxford. 

An Old London Theatrical Alphabet. — 

A Witt Archer, who pUyed his own ghost ; 

B wu a Baker, aft itijf aa a. poit ; 

C WM ft Conway, 'tis known he can rant well ; 

D wa* a Powton, oh, rare Pr. Caatwell ! 

B Unas an Egerton, clever in Clvtus : 

P wat a Fawcctt, bng tnnv he delipht us; 

G wa« a Oat tic, so glorious in Ton son ; 

H was 3Ii*9 Henry, I tliinlc she "11 get on Boon ; 

I was an IsaACS. (rreat in Wuff Artabanei ; 

J waB a Jones, still as briak aa crhampogne is ; 

K was A Koniblo,. a Win stone as bu»y as ; 

L was a Liston, oh, what a droll phiz he has ! 

M was a Matliews, show his equal who can; 

N was poor Naldi, killed by a stewpan ; 

O was O'Neil, wboie ri«e was so speedy; 

P was a Power, who mimicked Macrendy [ 

Q was a Quin, once at iJrury a dancer ; 

R was J. Russell, I hope bo nmy aosiver ; 

8 was a Stephens, may she yet draw a high lot; 

T was a Terry, superb in the Pih^t ; 

U was an XJiher, not a clown you II more odd see : 

V was a Vestrii, onco 31i?« Bartolozii ; 

W was a Ward, whom we see with delight ; 

X was his mark, though no doubt he can write ; 

y was a Ydune, whom 'tis fard tliey engape dear ; 

Z was Zacbelli, who '11 soon be the rage here. 

Fakky B . 

IQuin was the married name of Was Trte, the coltim- 
bineat Drury Lsne] 

The Executioner of Chahles I.— The fol- 
lowing '' Anecdote concerning the Execntioncr of 
Charles I/' appeared in the L<td\/s MagazinCf 
November, 1780: — 

" Riclmrd Brandon, common executioner or hangman 
ut that time, died upon Wednesday, June 2m, 1649 (with- 
in five months of the kings martjrdomj* The Sundny 
before Brandon died, a young man of hts acquaintance^ 
being to visit him, ntkeil him bow h« did, and whether 
he was not troubled in conscience for cuttlnjf off the 
king's bead. Brandon replied, ' Yes, because he wat at 
the kinu's trliii nnd heard the sentence denounced 
against him,* which caused the said Brand oii to make 
this nolemrn tow or protestation, r'lz., wi!«hing God to 
perish his Ijody and soul if ever he nppeaitid on the 
tcaffold (to do that wicked act) ; but immcdiAtely he fell 
a-trembling, and hath e?er since to his dt-ath continued 
in the like Rgony, He likewise confessed that he had 
thirty pounds for his pains, all paid him in balTcrowns, 
within an hour after the blow was struck : and that he 
hud an orange f tuck full of cloves, and an handkerchief 
©ut of the king's pocket As #iion us he was carried off 
from the scaffold be was pr^ifTered twenty shillinjrs for 
tb»t orange by a gentleman in Whitdmll. but refused 
the same; tut afterwards sold it for ten cbilUngs in 
Boseixiary Lane. 

" About six o'clock that night ho returned home to ht» 
wiffli living in Rosemary Lane, and gave her the i 
saying:, ' It was the dearest money thi;t over he e:. 
his life*; which prophetical words were sor.n 
manifest. About three d.iys before be died fa* above 
mentioned) he lay ?peechKs», uttering many a sigh and 
jfToan, and in n most depJurable manner depart<?d froni 
his bed of Forrow. For his burihl great store of wiue wtl 
sent in by the sherif of the city of London, and a great 
multitude of people stood waiting to see bia corpse 
carried to the churchynrd, Pome crying out, * Hang bua^ 
bury him on a dunglnll ! ' others pressing on him. sayinc 
they would quarter bim for executing the king. insomnBh 
that the churchwardens and mnstcrf of the parish wers 
fain to come to the suppressing of them, and with greit 
difficulty he was at last carried to Whitechapel church- 
yard, having a bunch of rosemary at each end tf lbs 
coffin »nd on the top thereof, with a rope tied aeroMi 
from one end to the other.'* 

I should like to know if this story is anywhere 
authenticated, and also if any exphi nation «ni b« 
ffiTen of the " orange stuck full of cloves " and the 
"bunch of rosemary at each end of the coffin." 

J. N. BLTtfl;i 
[See " N. k Q./* 2"^ 8. xi. 446,] 

*' Gramerct."— The following aDecdotc, 
Oxford JtstSy 1G84, shows what meaning waa 
tached to the word nearly two hundred yeni« ogoi] 

•' In March Inst, an elder brother, ond unmarried, 
accidentally kill'd by bia home, which the second bi 
behritig, immediately came and embmc'd the bors^i 
the ancient motto of the fjimily, which was ^^ <Af 
veitK UttU ; which the young gentleman bimng a w« 
experience of in bis elder brother's days, Jie pre 
changed into O'l^auwci/ Morse ; and after that 
never tufTer the horse to be rid, but gave him 

Boston, Lincolnshire, 

Ettmologt OF "Golden,*' co. Tipperaiit.— 
A writer in The Guard ian of Oct. C, Jed astrny by 
the seeming meaning of the natne Golden, snys ;— 

*'0a the road to Cashel, names like Golden, Goltieu* 
bridg«j Golden-bills, give an exiiectation of richness 
which a closer glance at the Suir valley does not dirop* 
point. The Golden vale is a meet setLiny^ for this jei * 
of the nrcbajologiat, C«i»el-nft-Rigb, Cashel of 

A reference to Dr. Joyce's work, Iri^h Nat 
of Flaci^f first series,' shows that "gold< 
simply means a little fork, from — 

'* Oalhixl youl, ijoical, and pole}, a fork ; old Ii 
^nhuly from the verb gaV, to *t»kc. At th« village 
'Golden, in Ti[vpemry, the river Suir dividet for a 
distance^ and forms a small island ; this little blfu 
tion was, and is etill, called in Irish G'afjfuxifin [poul 
which has been cf^rrupted to the present name 
village, Golden."— Pp. 510-11. 

£. M. Barrt. 

Scothorne Vicarage. 

Parallels : Buntan and ^Iasillon. — Oi 
day, when Bunyan had prejiched " with pecul 
warmth and enlargement,-^ some of his frii 
came to shake hands with him after the sein< 




and olje«rv<J io him what a "sweet sermon '' he 
had dcliTcr&d. "Are!" he replied, "you need 
not rem':nd toe of liiat ; for the devil told nie of 
5t ' -r^M out of the pulpit." — Souibey's Life 

A na "le ft'Ucitait sur ses »er- 

in« D- ;iOQdit-il, 'meVad^Jjadit pins 

^1< ',' e' : ;i*L ^ae vous."' — Eloge cZ^ 3/a^i7/o«, par 

E, M. Earrt. 

{We mmft requeit correapondentu dGBiringinrorm&tic^ii 
ttb fiBulj mfttten of only private intereat, to affix their 
■ftMce end addrefees to their queries, in order that the 
■mw e w ma J be addreiaeJ to them direct,] 

** The PfuiCTiCE of Piety." — The Liblio^rniphj 
of this little book is a desideratnin. I think the 
^^ition hn» Vteen often iaqnired for, but not 
l?d of. We frequently see the work noticed 
imendntion by old writers ; and nuineroos 
IS ore the recorded impressions, I doubt not tber 
gicstiy exceeded the number stated. As one of 
the fO^cadled people's books of an orthodox chiirac- 
lefy we do uat hear iimch of TJte Fractise of Fittie 
«ff«r 1734, when it seems to have run ita race, 
wad been 'iniet It put to rest in a goodly octavo, 
d^ignate'd the fifty-ninth edition, although the 
Btxt in XDj collection wouhl render that doubtful^ 
for it purports to be the seventieth edition, 12mo., 
Edin., Eiiddiman, 1761. The high episcopal tone 
of the w. »rk certainly would be no recommendation 
to it in the Xorth, and yet we shall see that it did 
gH Ml t^irly footing there. 

That rlie book wa^ printed in London at the 

v,'v )- M' ning of the seventeenth centui*)* there is 

ut the earliest inipree^iion I know, or 

of. is this» in my own possession :— 

** The Practite of Pietie, directing a Christian hn»r to 

Vllke thDt hi mav pleaBO God. The Sixt Edition. 

tata^^ 1 !»v the Author" 1 2mo. rp* 1*8*, and 

Miat: Iji|;h aril Mightie Prince Cbarles, 

^Hnce V .^.. Load., PrinteJ for John Hodgets, 


T\\U titk, **ginuen by Eenold Elstrack," is in 

1 I tnient?, the upper representing' a fully 

on hia knee.s olfering up his heart, 

Jcted, on a kindled altar, typical, no 

.'- good Bishop Bayly himself primarily^ 

' -'iUj^ his pious manual to the Deity; the 

Lr. fhp title^ between emblems ; and the lower, 

, )und, a itiotmtain, from which ih seen, 

y below* the battle between Joshua 

:. during which Aaron and Hur hold 

. of Moses until the enemy is defeated, 

in Exodus xvii* 12, Thia engraved 

ion to moat editions. The next early 

i-r, . .^c book I find is that of 1619, in the 

Bniish Museum, called the eleventh edition. Mr. 

Chalmers notes a remarkable edition, Eiin., 1630, 
us "the only copy known." I have not seen this, 
but there i* before me the twenty-ei;rbth edition, 
" Edin., Printed by John Hart, 1630/' which is my 
next in order of date. But a small edition, with- 
out date, and that which has prompted this note, is 
the one bearing a pretty copy of the engraved title, 
and purj>orting '*to be Amplified by the Author, the 
last and most correct " (called in the dedication 
the thirty-first edition), ''printed at Ed3'Tibur<? 
by Jacob Williams for the good of Great Britaine." 
Tills imprint is, of course, fictitious, and corre- 
5|xinds nearly with another impression of similar 
fi^rm, " Printed at Delf by Abraham Jacobs," for 
behoof of the s^ame benighted nation. A third of 
the same description i.*?, " Printed at Amsterdam 
by John Handson " ; all, no doubt, supplied from 
Holland at a period when Great Britain might be 
suppoHed to need a return to the sound episcopal 
teaching of the Binhop of Bangor— for I assign 
all these diimpty little importations to the time 
of the Commonwealth^— and probably originating 
in the filial piety and great zeal for the Church of 
his son, Thomas Bayly, then an exile in Holland 
for over-demonstration of his loyalty to King 
Charles and Hi^h Church tendencies (see his 
Motjal ChiuUr). In the introductory address to 
the Prince to all the editions of the Practice of 
Ficty here cited, the author says : — " This is the 
third epistle he has written to draw his Highness 
nearer to God, and that he here once again offers 
his old miic ntw stampt." And this is the last 
revise of the author, who died in IG31. The 
favourable antecedents of the old orthodox Frac- 
fke of Pidy have procured it a modern editor in 
Miss Grace Webster, whose edition, published in 
1832, like most old books so edited, adds little to 
the object of ray inquiry beyond a neat bio- 
jLjraphical notice. Among the many readers of 
'' N. & Q." who take an interest in the origin and 
progress of ft popular relijj:ious manual, which hm 
found favour and been printed in the original as 
well as translated in foreign lands, I hope to hear 
something more about my old book. J. 0, 

Rev. — BincH, Eector of HocfonTON Con- 
Qt'EST, Bedford.— Can you give me information 
regarding the arms or family of the Eev. — Birch, 
Bector of Houghton Conquest, co. Be^iford I His 
daughter Ann married Benedict Conque-^t, Esq., of 
Houghton Conquesit, A metuoranduni exists to 
this effect, and under it, in pencil, is a rough 
sketch or indication of their arms. The date of 
1733 is also given. This sketch would be more 
comprehenj^iblo had Benedict Conquest had two 
wives ; but I am not aware that he was twice 
married. The arms are Party per pale, dexter side 
clearly those of Conquest ; the sinister &idc seems 
to be Party per fess, and if so, the coat on the chief 
part might be Argent, a fess counter embattled 


i^ulea, and the coat below would iilmost certainly 
be Azure» a chevron between three priffins, argent. 
The tinctures and the three griflin^ are noted in 
writing, bitt the chevron is the only charge clearly 
distiDguishuble. The son of Benedict Con^juest 
and this Ann was Benedict Conquest, who married 
JMxin*, daughter of Thomas Murkham, Esq., of 
Ollerton, co. Notts. He sold Hoiij|;hton, and 
removed to Imham Hall, co. Lincoln. Their 
daughter and heiress, Mary Christina, married the 
eighth Lord Anmdell of Wardour, jpreat-grand- 
iather (materaally) of the present mierist, 

F. A. Weld, 

Lleweltn ap Griffith and nis Descendaxts. 
— The unntil accounts of the Tudor family inform 
iiq that Catherine, daughter of the last Prince of 
North Wales, married Philip np Ivor, and that 
they had an only daughter and heiress Eleanor. 
Xheae Tudor pcdicreea make no mention of any 
other marriage of Catherine's, but in Burke's ac- 
count of Moaiyn of Talacre (Peerage and Jifrrond- 
iige for 1805), lorwerth Vychan ap lorwerth Gam 
ia said to have married ^^ Catherine, diitii;hter of 
Dewelyn np Griffith, Prince of North Wales " ; 
and from this match the rest of the descent is de- 
duced. Can any Welsh genealogist kindly ex- 
plain this r Cl. 

HEBALorc— 1. When was the red lily first u?ed 
as the device of the Florentine Commonwealth I 
2. When was the red cross on a white field first 
Uiied as the device of the Florentine people ? 3. 
How far back can be traced (authentically) the 
use of this last device — arg,, a cross gu.— as tlmt 
of the people of England ? K. Nokgatk. 

Sir Benjamin Wrench, M.D., of Norwich, 
die<l AujjTUst 15, 1747, ii't. eighty-two. Can any 
one furnish me with an account of his parentage, 
family conne:xion8, and other particular* concern- 
ing him ? He appears to have been tiirice mar- 
ried, and to have left daughters married to Pri- 
deaux, Marcon, Jenny, and Wharton. Please 
comraiinicate direct with Charles Jackson. 


to examine the Racramental plate at Thoroage 
Church, Norfolk, I made some notes respecting it^ 
which may perhaps be admitted into "N. & Q." 
Round the chalice is the following inscription :— 
*' ■»- Thes .is.j*. grfte . of . iohn . Butc« . and , M«- 
gret . hvB . wjfo . 1456 . xrhych . died . 1477.*' 

In the same line are the initials L B, and M» B. 
Under the inscription is a shield bearin|j three 
star:?, and on a clievron three lozenges, being the 
arms of the Butes or Butts family. 

On the pten, which is very small and pl]iio,i 
the following words : — 

altred by 
I. Staloui 

a. ft* ises,** 

I conclude that I. Stalom was the rector at thai 
time, though hia name does not occur in the (in- 
complete) list of the rectors given by Bloomfield 
{Eutonj of Norfolk). 

Are there muny instances of pre-Beformatiatt 
church plate remaining in Enghnd I This chaJir^ 
is in excellent preservation. F. J. N. IsD. 

Bitjfield Hftll. Norfolk. 

Thomas Brewer.— lofonnation f;iven, Sept. 17, 
r{;2t),by James Martin, "re?ipecting Thaniaa Bre«-er 
and others, Puritnna and Brownists in Kcnt,^ ii^ 
noted in the Cakndnr of i^laU Paj^crs, I)oi 
Series, 162a-162fi, p. 430 (No. 110). Any infol 
mation concerning this Thomas Brewer, his fami* 
and descendants, will oblige. 


Hartford, Conn., U.S. 

" Grat'b Injt Guinea."— In Farquhar's coi 
of Sir Harry Wildair^ Act L, in the dh' 
between Col. Standard and Parly, is used 
term. What was its origin I F. P. B. 

Need FiKE^^Have any of yam readers ei 
heard of " need fire," and, if so, can they give 
any information respecting it ? 

Reginald V. Le Bas, 

SIL^^:R Plate.— I hare in my possession four 
silver covers, varying in aiie frmn two inches to 
four inches in diameter, intended for gallipot or 
glass receptacles, each cover having the creat 
a demi-lion issuing out of a mural coronet, 
bolding in its paws a shield or. charged with a 
chevron of the same. The covers are not ancient, 
as I fancj the head of our present sovereign, with 
the other usutil stumps, may be seen. Should a 
correspondent recognize, I shrill he happy to offer 
more information. C D. Milj 


Cumberl&ad Road, Bristol. 

Pas-RBroRMATioK Church Plate.— Having 
been allowed by the Rev. C. Brereton, the rector, 

Heraldic. — Wlien a family cfirry two luoti 
in their arms, one for the crest and tlie other unc 
the shield, is it correct for an unmarried daught 
to place the latter motto under her lozenge I 

W. M. M. 

Hiero?«ymu8 David. — Where is the fu 
account of this artist to be found I la there 
separate biography of him, or any published liat 
bis works 1 S. D. 

** The Societt of tre Blue and Orajjoe,"- 
liave Been in the possession of a friend an engi 
ing, under which the following inscription nppeai 

" In Memnry of our Itite Glorious D«lirerer Ki 
William the lit., this Plate (of tbe City and Cnitle 
Namur, talcon lti95) u rooit Humbly Dedicated to th« 





£ap«ri<mr, WAideiB^ and the Rest of the Memhere of the 
lioynl »ml Friendly Society of the Hlue niul Orange, hy 
^\. ..,v-- --« ►NfirniostbbUjfcd HuniWo Sorvaiit. John 
F: a the Origiual Painting now in the 

JS i ;.ip of KilUare [Gcorpe Stone, D.D.]» 

1713. Pinx'. J, Faber Fecit, 1743." 

Kit , A b the princiiml figure, and in 

r. 'lack horse. Can any reader of 

* ^ _ ' me with particukira of the ahove- 

n : :y f AUHDA. 


.h;q/, which I have never heard out of Derby- 
'hir».% is one used (so far as I have been able to 
note) chiefly by farmers' wives and cooks, who 
havt pTcttx frequently ocaision to boil milk to 
fi poiling. Any one at all familiar 

y>i .11-8 of milk will know that it i.s 

ftoiutjtiuieja Very- difhcnlt to boil it without burning 
it. Whate'ver care may be taken it will burn, and 
therefore be spoiled. When Buch a mishap occur?, 
ihe wife iir C4X)k will «at, *' The bishop 's had his 
foot in it*" The milk acquires when burnt a 
liecidiAr taJite and smell, and when thus is known 

mrM " hiahopped niUk.'^ Can any one exphiin why 
HBlinied milk in associated with a bishop ) 

™^ Thomas Ratcliffe, 


The Manorial Courts of former times had 

criminil jurisdiction over those slighter offences 

which are now dealt with by justices of peace in 

petty sessions. Ha& this power been taken from 

ilic maaor courta by statute, or only fallen into 

4-jttie I It is a common rppinion amonjj Rolicitora 

u.A "r 1, .,1 been aboli shea by Act of Parliament, 

mt of inquiry or research has enabled 

any such statute. Axon. 

TuESrAvr.xGER's OFFrcE IS THR Seventeenth 

C^sTtJRr. — Thoroton, writing of Nottingham and 

Ui trnremmpnt in 1G75, numbers among its 

I "^ lie scavenger, who, he says, "looks 

of the ptivement and streets of 

'■1 nMi, :inu attends utKin the mayor's wife." 

Thw ^cems to me a somewhat curious combination 

^ tluties. Now-a-days, T think, "the mayor's 

tif* " would harvJly dti'iu it " gooti enoi;gh '* to be 

^ ; iM iinr.n by, and otlicijilly connected with, the 

iger of the town. Was it the custom 

w-ns, at the time in question^ for the 

t^fficiai scarenger to attend upon the mayor's wife ? 

F. D, 

SwnnTiN Faxilv. — Is there any English famOy 
tf Ufce name of Swinton, bearing arms, that can 
vt99 given their name and their arras ns an inn 
■Jgn to Swinton Stre^^t, next to Acton Street, in 
^taT'i Inn Road I The street^ judging from old 
pUas of London, waa made about 1760. 

B. R. S, 

RALEinii'S MSS.-— "The famous llr. Hamden, 
a little before the civil wars, was at the charge of 
transcribing 3452 sheets of Bir Walter Raleigh's 
MSS., as the amanuensis himself told me." These 
words are quoted in that tantalizing book of Delia 
Bacon's on Shakapeure, where not one in fifty of 
the citiitions is verltied by chapter and verse 
references. Who is the writer who mentions this 
fact of Haraptlen, and where are these MSS. of 
Raleigh's? C. A, Ward. 


(2*"» S. vi. 431.) 

HisTORicus makes one or two queries, at the 
above reference, ns to this ancient corps, in which I 
had the honour of serving for some years. First, 
" Where w,is it stationed in March, 176 17 It 
sailed from ^pithead for Eelleiale on Thursday^ 
Maif 14, 1701/' &c. Surely HiSTORictis is quite 
wrong here. In the historical records of the regi- 
ment for the year 1760 it if* Kald :— 

^*The regltnejit hftTing ouffcred considerable loM In 
kflled and wounded, nnd by di»cft»o oriijntr from the 
climHte" (the French West India islands), « it retorned 
to Ennjtand in 17t>0 to recruit." 

1701. •' In the sprinjc of 17G1 it vrm ftg&in prepw«d 
for active f^rvice, tokd formed part rtf the forc« placed 
under the orderi of Major-Gen. Hodgson for an attack 
upon Bcllf -Isle^ a French island in the Buy of Biacfty, off 
the coMt af Brittany. The expedition appeared before 
this place ou the 7tk of Ap^-it, and a landing WM 
ftttemjited on the following dny," &c. 

•' Why hos this corps been termed the Nut- 
crackers \ ^' I ftm quite unable to answer this querj^ 
and shall be gUul to hear of the reason why. " Also 
the Resurrectionists, after May 16, 1811 ? " This is 
answered in a note at the above reference. " Also 
whet her tliis regiment is entitled to the motto, 
* Veteri frondescit honore,' and, if so, why I " I 
suppose, when dilferent articles of uniform are 
served out to troops by Government with a motto 
on them, that thei-e can be little doubt but that 
the ti-oops eo nerved have a right to such a 
moUo. If IIisTORicus means to ask whether the 
reghiient has a ^igh^, from its previous history, to 
such a motto, I answer that I belfeve no regiment 
in the British anny hns a better right to such a 
one. liCt me, in jw brief a manner as I can, give 
a short account of this regiment from the historical, 
recoinls : — 

1572. "Tn the month of March of this vear the 
citireus nf London hsd, in ctbodience to her Ma^iesty's 
commandi, selected from the several companies three 
thousand ' rnen at nrrns ' and 'shot.' in the u»ual manner, 
and iuRtructeJ in thi? military exercises by experienced 
officer*. On the Ut of May they were mustered and 
exercised in the prticnceof her Majesty at Greenwich,* 
and among them were inanyvetenui offi cers and goidior«, 

♦ Holinihed's Chroiiiclt, Staw, &e. 



[B-'S. V.JlM. 15,TS. 


wlio had Berved in IrelanJ, Scotland, Rnd France, but 
were lit this period unemployed. CaptAiii Thom&s MorgAC, 
an officer of disting^aiitbed merit, being })riTately counte* 
nanced by seTernt noblemen and other persons who were 
favourable to the Ftemisli cause« and assisted irith money 
iy the deputation from Flushing, raised a company of 
three hundred men, among whom vren upwards of one 
Luudred gentiemon of property, who, being inspired with 
a noble enthusiasm for the cause of religion and liberty, 
enrolled thcmselTea under the veteran Captain Morgan.* 
TbtK company was the nucleuii of a numerous body of 
British troops, which, after the peace of Mnnster in 
]648. was reduced to one repruent, and having been re- 
called to England ia 1(3(35, is now the 3rd Regiment of 
Foot, or the Buffs," 

Froui tills date, 1572^ until 1653 the regiment 
wus iu constant iictive service, chiefly against the 
Spaniards in the Low Coimtries, In thelatteryear^ 

'* The States, having now no enemy to fear, reduced 
the strength of their land forces; and the English 
Tetertms were incorporated into one regimentj which 
was designatod the Holland Regiment, and is now 

the 3rd Regiment of Foot in the British line, After 

the reduction of tlie four regiments into one, which event 
is said to have taken place in 1655, the colonelcy appears 
to have been co&ferred on the veteran Colonel John 
Cromwell, who had for many years commanded one of 
th« jumor English regiments." 

Anil now comes a bit of history that is very in- 
teresting, antl, I think, highly to the credit of the 
regiment :^ 

*' Although England had become a CommonweaUh, 
and the royal family was in exile, yet the Holland Regi- 
ment preferred its loyalty, and it appears to hnve been 
composed of men firmly attached to the royal cause. Tbe 
bnvve Colonel John Cromwell, who ytm a near kinsman 
of the Lord Protector, and who had been in the service 
of the State* upwards of thirty years, was particularly 
distintrui&hed for his attachment to the royal family^ and 
he litild the regicides and usurpers of the kingly authority 
ill >j.'h detestation that be obtained permission of King 
Charles IT. to change his name from Cromwell to 

l(>(]5. The regiment was recalled to Endand 
by Charles IL, and hh Majesty conferred the 
colonelcy of the regiment on Lieut.-Col. Rohert 
Sidne3% bj commiasion dated May 31, U!G3. At 
the srtme tinje its appellation of the Holland Regi- 
ment continued during the succeedinp; twenty-four 
years. It obtained rtink in the English army from 
the date of its arriral in England in M:iy, 10^35, and 
wa* consequently fourth in the British 11 dp. The 
first was Douglas'a Rt";i;iinent, now the 1st Royal, 
which arrived in Englantl from France in 'the 
summer of 1*361, and obtained rank from that 
date ; the second was the Tangier Eeghnent, now 
the 2nd or Queen's Royal, ndsetl in the autumn 
of IP*H\ ; the third wtis the Admiral'»t or Duke of 
York's Regiment, raised in 1C64, and incorporated 
in lOSi) in the 2nd Foot Guard* ; the fourth 

• Tfu ActioM tH. the Lo» Conntriex, by Sir Roger 
UTiUiam*, who wa« a soldier of Captain Morgan*a 

regiment was probably the origin of the Royal 
e Corps being raised. 


) time Ji 


%va5 the Holland Regiment, but after the above 
incorporation of tlie Duke of York s Regiment it 
became the 3rd Foot^ and obtained at that time 
the title of " Prince George of Denmark's 

1707. In this year " Prince George of Den- 
mark's Regiment*" was permitted to dispby a 
dragon on its colours, aa a regimental badge, 
reward for its gaUant conduct on all occasi 
The dragon, being one of the supporters to tl 
royal arms in the time of Queen Elizabeth, 
indicated the origin of the corps in her Majest 
reip:n. In this year was aho St. Andrew's Ci 
added to St, George's Cross on the colours of 
Euglish regiments ; and a colour with the t^ 
crostsea was designated the Union, 

I7u8, On the decease of H.R.H. Prince Geoi 
of Deniu:irk, Oct. 28, 1708, the regiment waa 
longer distinguisilied by his title. "' In official reti 
and orders it was distinguished by the name of 
colonel ; in newspapers and other perioilical nub- 
Ucations it was sometimes styled the HoUaSid 
Regiment ; and it eventually obtained a title 
the colour of the clothing. The men s coata 
lined and faced with buff; they also wore 
waistcoats^ bufi? breeches, and buff stockingAj 
were emphatically culled 'The Buffs.'" May^ 
not also pnrtly have arisen from the Yorkshire 
word " To at.nnd buff " ? i. c, " tinn,'' rids 
^'K. iS: Q.," 2«^» S. X. 21». "Steady, * The Buffi/" 
a not unfamiliar caution to many anEnglisih soMier. 

1751. Ua J\ily 1, 1751^ a njyal \uv? 
issued respecting the clothing and colours of ev^ rv 
regiment. In this warrant the regiment is *]■ . 
nated the 3id or Bufl's, and it is anthorizt . t - 
bear in the centre of it5 colours — 

*' The dragon, being the ancient badge, and the rose 
and crown in the three comers of the secoad colour. Op 
the grenadier caps the dragon : white horse and kin^» 
motto on the flaca. The same badge of the dragon to be 
Iiainted on the ilrums and bells of arms, with the raak 
of the regimeat underueath." 

175G. In this year it was increased to twenty 
companies, and divided into two battalions, 

1758. In this year the second battidion was 
constituted the CUst Regiment, 

1752. In this year it was styled the 3rd East 
Kfnt Regiment, or the Buffs, by the commands of 
his Jbjejjty by a letter ilated London, August 31, 
17.Si2, from* Field-Marshal Conway, Commander-in- 

1803. In this year it was augmented to two 

IH15. In this year the second batttdion waa 
ilislmnded. The early commanders of the regimeat 
before 16t;5 were Thomas Morgan, Sir John Norria, 
Robert, Earl of Leicester ; Sir Francis Yere ; Horace 
L(»Tii Yere, Baron of Tilbury ; Sir John Ogle ; Sir 
Charles Morgan ; Henry, Earl of Oxford ; Robert^ 
Earl of Oxford ; Aubrey, Earl of Oxford ; John 




Cromwell. Aft4Er that date, perhaps the most 
noted men were Sir Walter Vane, 1668 ; Charles 
Churclkil], 1666 ; John, Bute of Argyll, 1707 ; 
Imt amoMt mch a distiuguished list of nAmos 
Aft thftl of tlie oomxoanders conaista of, it b In- 
^ndimiv'to piek one oat before another. 

**Wiw il n-- ' to Lord Clare's Eegiment at 
the battle ' i, May 23, 17(>G, und with 

wlist moU. « ■.> not quite understand the 
Jt certainly was present ut Eainillies on 
and very much distinguished itself 
— '» RegimeDt^ under the command 
rfes Churchill, who was the son of 
Cliaiies Churchill, the colonel of the 

qne«tion, as to the Coldstream Guards, 

aniible in any way to answer. The Buffi? 

!nt at Fontenoy with Lord John Murray's 

mdera (now the ' 42nd)^ and covered the 

it of the army conjointly with that regi- 

In 1 87- the ofticers of the regiment, toge» 

'*' many who had formerly served in it, met 

rs Rooiii5 for their first regimental dinner 

'"•rate the tercentenary anniversary of 

, which is, I believe, what no other 

- fhe Bemce has the power of doing ; 

f think the motto, " Veteri frondescit 

}rt/* a not undeserved one. J), Cv E. 

Crescent^ Bedford. 

'It has the privilege of marching through 
•trrets of London with hayoneta fixed, band 
playing, and colours flving, vide *'N. & Q.," 4«»» S. 

•^Calcihs" (o»»> S. iv. 405,471 ; v. 16.)— About 

the in^onin;^' of the Mid. Lat. cakeata, cakda, 

taktia^ axli4n^ Fr. chanck, ckaussde, E. cakie, 

mufy, or eorrapily amntway^ there is no dispute. 

Ii<\g&iJies a made roiid, including often the notion 

^ i taifC'd bunk, with a surface solidified by any 

mr vn^ - r f I n ^^^^ r.i 1 1 1 1 ^ :i /^^er "* — ilarcellinua in Due. ; 

rustatna " — Sidonius ; " Be 

I m solidum viatoribus fieri 

twv — Ingulphus. The essential feature is the 

1*''^i*Trtn of a hard surface, xrhich can l)est l>e 

lid paving, as in the great highways 

^ There could not, then, be a more 

i. ^'on than one which made the word 

i V . i way, equivalent to the It. strathi^ 

I! Lnt. via strata lupidibus, a wa^' laid 

<)r the Fr. joaiY, familiarly used in the 

' ' Now the Portuguese cal^'or 

!, primarily to shoe, is secon- 
>ense of arming with a harder 
jLt is subjected to wear and tear, 
. „:i implement shod with iron or 
i ally it is used in the sense of paving 
Thus m/frtcia, the Ptg. equivalent 
!{• oar anury, is literally a shod or a paved way, 
' * ir is 80 obvious and the explanation so , 

natural, that it is surpri.sing it did not meet with 
general acceptance when it was so clearly pro- 
pounded by Spelman, who saya, " Non a calcando 
dicta, sed k calceando, quod vel lapidibus ve! dunV 
alia materia quasi calceo raunitur contra injuriam 
plaustTomm vel itinerantium." This explanation 
&eemi5 to me no complete aa to leave no opening for 
Diez's derivation (fwlopted by Mtl, Skeat) of eal- 
centa, in the sense of made of lime, even if he could 
show such a use of that terra. The same may be 
said of Littru's explanation (after Cliarpentier) from 
Mid. Lnt. calriatust^ " chausse, puis foule,"* shod, 
then trod or beaten down, \rhich fails, moreover, 
to give any account of the connexion between these 
meanings. If. indeed, the word can be found, as 
he asserts, in Mid, Lat. in the hitter sense, it is no 
doubt a mis-apelling for cakatus^ and never could 
have given rise to our M*opd. H. Wedgwood. 
31, Queen Anne Street, W. 

The " George -the-Third schoolboy" used to 
connect this word, through the French, with calx 
or coieewj, aa being a trodden or foot imth. The 
raised tide path — often a church path— is mostly 
distinguished from the roadway by this M*ord 
cauitimy. It has nothing whatever to do with 
lime, nor even limegtoae nor chalk, which are not 
used in preference to other materials. 

TnoiiAS Kerslake. 

This word is the translation, in the statute 
of the 23 Hen. VIII. c. 6, of cakcta in the 
statute of the 6 Hen. VI. c. 5, and no doubt it is 
derived from ml'\, chalk. The old, and, according 
to Johnson, the correct, form of raiisetrmf wfts 
Cftitsctj^ which is still in use in the IMidland 
Cotmties, iind is commonty applied to jyavetl foot- 
ways. Minsheu gives us, "chaussee ou chaulcee, 
a ealce, qua in pavimentis plernraque utuntur/' 
Clinmbnud's Fr. ef Antj. Diet, lias " ehausste, levee 
de terre pour retener I'eau d'un ctang, «!fcc., ou pour 
wervir de passage daoa les lieux marecageux." 
Bailey, Dki. gives " a Ijank raised in marshy 
ground for a foot passage." Spelman (Gkisary) 
gives three meaningg to cakeatc,^ cakdnm : (1) a 
paved way ; (2) a bank to restrain the flow- of 
water (" agger ad coercendas aquas ") ; (3) a pool 
the waters of which are kept in by a bank I'as I 
infer from the grant cited by him). The question, 
therefore, what mkU^ means in the stjitute of 
Hen. VIII. must be determined by the object of 
that statute, which was to cause the construction 
of works to prevent " the outrageous tlowing, 
surges, and course of the sea" and rivers upon 
low grounds. It is clear that a bank to restrain 
the flow of water would aptly fall within the scope 
of that statute, whilst a paved footway would not. 
The inference, therefore, is that cnkk.* means a 
bank ; and the term may have been applied to a 
bank pavetl on its ton with chalk, or guarded or 
floitered (as we should say on the banks of the 





DoTc) ifllh chtflk, to prerent its being washed 
amy tij the action of water. C S. 6. 

PoETB THB Masters or Lahguage : Lord 
Btbosi (4** S, xi, 110 ; b^ B, IV. 431» 491 ; r. 
I4j— Dr, Gattt uk» yo«r readem what they 
think of the following oae of the word " sung " :— 
" T>ie UIm of Gi««ee, itw tflet of Gre«cer 
Where Iramiog S^plto Lored und fvn^/* 
I am otie of jotir pe^en from the coninicncement, 
and I reply tjut it is good sonnd English— Anglo- 
Saxon if you will 

The verb nn^n^ A--S., or «t7i^«n, High Ger., 
iiggran, Gothic, is common to all the Teutonic 
dialects. The original preterite wm aing. tatig^ 
plur. jn(ngon,,h[xt very early $ang became corrupted 
into tiong. Thus in King Alfred's translation of 
Bede, speaking of Ciediuon be says, "tong he arest 
ltd ujiddan^^cardes geaceape" (He first aang of the 
creation of the world). Chaucer, Miller's Tak; — 
♦* Thcrlo he tong Bomtime a loud qainibk." 

By the time of our authorized veraion of the 
8cripttirea mitg and ^ung had become confounded, 
and u^jed indiflerently. Thus Ex. x\% 1 we have, 
" then Mo&es and Aaron tang thits song," whiUt in 
Rev. V, 9 we read, " they fung a new song." Biy- 
den {AUxrnidcr^ Fcatt) gives us : — 

*' War, he tung, h toil and trouble, 
Honour but an empty bubble." 

Shakspeare uses sun{f excluaively both in the 
singular and plural : — 

"To whom lie ntng in rude bareh-ionnding rljjmei." 

Kinff Jithn, iv, 2, 

and in many other pAaaages. With Shiikepeare 
and I>ry<leii to full l>ack upon, Byron can hardly 
be censured for using the ordinary current lan- 
guage of his time, but nothing can excuse the 
cockneyisin of " there let him lay;' which ia ab- 
horrent both to taste and sense. 

J« A. PlCTON. 

Sondjrknowe, Wavertrcc. 

GirsiES : Ti>'KLEBi} (r/** S. ii. 421 ; iii. 4O0,)— 
Having rt'ud lately the Extracts from the Coundl 
JiegUkr^ of Om Burgh of Aberdeen^ I hrive bad 
tny attention drawn to mimes of Gipsies which do 
not Beem to have beeu noted by your corre^pan- 
dents. "8th Mtiy, 1527" (vob i/p. IH), ^' Ekin 
Jaks, maister of the Egiptiang," ia accuaetl of st eat- 
ing ** twa silver spounis." Again (p. 16T), ** 22nd 
Jan., 154M, Barbara Dya Baptista and Helen 
Audree, ser\'unds of Erie George, callit of Egipt," 
are iwjcu»ed of stealing twenty-four marks. Is 
Erie to be considered a title, and did it confer any 
recognized authority on George ? Htis this question 
been examined? It may interest Mr* Kilgoitr 
to know that we can trace the word Tinkkr at least 
7<iO years back, to the reign of William the Lion 
(116ri-lLM4}. He will find it in a chitrter (No. 4f\) 
in the Lxbcv Eccksic {U Scon, Edinb., 1843. It 
ift the gift of a piece of ground in the town of 

Perth by King William to his armourer (galnton\ 
and the ground is there specified *' ilUm scilicit 

3ue iacet ioter terram senon incisoris et terram 
acobi tinkler^ Tenend," &c. Now these wen 
evidently shop-keepers of Perth, Serlon ht^n^ a 
publican, for Du Cange defines inruor— 
** Htatutum Communis Bonooiensij, a. 1 1 
the expression, " etiam ciui ca.«enm Incidi 
found — to be, ** C&npone^ hie interpretor, a] 
caseua in escam pot&toribus datur." This 
law of Bologna was contemporary' with this 
of William. James, tinkler, I take here to 
smith, and, if not, I would ask what is it 7 
had been tme that the Gipsies did not make 
appearance in Western Europe till the fii 
century, here we have at all events the 
Tinkler in the end of the twelfth or beginni 
the thirteenth century, I have great doi 
whether TinkUr was ever & special name of 
Gipsies. Perhaps Mr. Pictos, with his 1 
ledge of Northern and Eastern languncrfs, m 
able to throw some light on the origin »f this 
I xuppose itannvvi, which in the fourth cent 
came to signify tin, is of the same root. Can 
traced to the Ea.«it, as I believe Kacra-iTtpo^ a 
to some Sanscrit root, for in that ca^ it i 
lead us to suppose that there must have 
mines of tin known to Eastern nations before < 
wall was visited by the Phwnicians ? Where 
the?e mines, if such existed in early times ? 

The name of Tinkler continues to be funnd 
old charters to a comparatively late period, 
it appears in an old charter, of which I bai 
extnict before me^ referring to lands not far 
Hightae, where the Gipsies— the Foas, the Ken-? 
nedys, &c,, " the King's kindly tenants," as they 
were called — long lived, and where some of their 
descendants;, I believe, are still living. The eh r • ^ 
iR dated May 31, 143J>,the third year of Jaun I] 
It is by John Halliday of Hodholm (now Hoddoni), 
by which he wadsetts his lands cnlled Holcmft, » 
coteland, which was sometime belonging: to Wil 
Uam de Johnstone, and two oxgangs of land, v, h . h 
are cjdled the Tynkler's Inndf*^ in the tenetn* t 
Hodholm and lordship of Annandail, to Jo! 
f*jimitheTiB, Laird of Mousewald, for in/,, u;. i, y 
lent him ""in hisgrete myserie" dated Mouse^^.iM- 
The name also Tirukdlarix dialing, near Inchiunan, 
ftppears in an old document dated April 23» 1530, 
in a dispute between the Countess Dovr.oger of 
Lennox and John Sympill of FuUvod, ijuoted by 
Mr. Eraser in Ms work entitled The Lcnnoi 
(vol. ii. p. 235). C. T. Ramaoe. 

Knk.hts Templars (5**» S. iv. 266.)— In i 
HUtortj of Friewiisonnj^ Mr, J, G. Findel (of 
whom Mr. B. Murray Lyon, one of the Grand 
Stewards of the Grand Lodge of Scotland, wrote 
in 1860 : " So faithfully has the author perfonued 
Ms task 03 the historian of Freemasonrv, tlmt his 




naino will, I belirre, go dowD to posterity as the 
A\] ' he bect^ tbe fullest, und most itiipartuil 

ir. -^ daf on the subject of which it treats") 

say a ; — 

** Whan fnmauoarj erroQeoafly Btippoaed herself to 
be * daio^tatt of Tezzrplarinxi, ^e«t pains were taken to 
reitreaeoft llw old Templ&n u a ronch ill u»cd body, and 
the tnA vu repressed. The Freemasons, in ilicir 
e«(p«s»ett lo obtain hhtoric&l facts, permitted false 
stsitztDCBtf t» be palmed upon them. The iMeiBonic nd- 
mifcnoftbe Kniehts TempUra boii;:ht u|> the whole of 
Ik* donoDMfils of the lawsuit, ] ubliichea by Moldeii- 
J>fc«rr, beano* th^y proreJ tbe culjabilityof the Order. 
XoltfeohAver and jlUnter wUhed to follow up 'their one 
\«k by A MMod Tolome, but their connexion with the 
fnumaoia prerented them from doing so. In liie 
■illffli of tli*ci2;hteentb century «oine branches of Froe- 
Bftnvy sHslied to rcTire tbe Order of Knights Tem- 
plbn» mjWig; iba.t it had never been ouite extinct. In 
I751a Ft w mm iOfi Knight Templar, an obscure indtvidimU 
t)ablUb«d in Bnuaels the previous work of Duprei 
{Psria, IdSOlf, with leveral notes, additions, and ilocu- 
SMn»ts ; but so mutilated, that it doei not repret ent the 
onldr ttciultj, bat innocent. The rcprebensiblo policy 
ef the ^snplars^ and their licentiousnes*. is a lets dis- 
p«tt4 qi s a t iop than their mjiteriet, because theie latter 
do ftM a|if»ea,r in the Iiistury of the order ; but certaia 
tncBSoftaese secret teachings are not altogether want- 
lagf. The rcol creed of tbe order was Dcifm, tbe eceptl- 
caai«#th« fftJtrictan world, nriixcd up with tbe cabalistic, 
4ltrr»>c>c fupervtition of the Middle Ages. 

uldle of tbe eij^bteenth century, the report 

1 that tbe Order of Knights Templars con- 

vu . i cu tiist, although the order was destroyed in the 

<*rlf jaii of the fourteenth century." 

Ti ,, ^.♦t-, > „ ,j- ...,p Qf fgyj. centuries requires 

^ome sort of evidence before 

..- .— -■. .... . V .ibh Order of the Temple cnn 

W %iaiitled. Mit. Haig believes in it because 
W %doB|9 to it, and becau.^ie, oa he Ra]rs, the pre- 
■ttS 8ootti«]i order derires an income of Dn^. per 
maam fxom property formerly belonftiDg to the 
Order of the Temple. Can he give chanter find 
rene for the deeeent of this as reul Templar pro- 
grtT ftlirayii in the hands of real Templars? 

! « order was abolished, the power of tbe 

* annihilated, and it war impoMiblo to wake 

? ^ ■ sfome of tbe knights, escaping the fate 

^randered about in an abject state of 

they not go and live on thi.^ property 
' Again ; — 

ive knights cotild not, of thomselres, re- 

nnlcr. If tbe order had continued to 

«^«* 1 would most surely have incorporoted 

|Mf ^ -.v order of chivftlry which the Pope 

wsm «iii„, . ^1 to establifb on tbe iabind of Lemnns. 

TO the gniTe cannot deliT»?r up its dead. If it bad 
*nllttiseed tti the fourteenth ana fifteenth eenturiesi, it 
'^■U hare been dbcovcred and betrayed by tbe Jesuits. 
^ coold not bare remained even a score of years con* 
<<al«d, ttSIl toM centuries.'^ 

^ concIudiDfj a chapter on Tempi aria m, in 
^Ibth Findel disfKxses of tbe French and Scotch 
^'nDpIjus, he expresses hiB opinion that modem 

Templarism is " child's ph\y sind animt nonsense/* 
an opinion which I beg to recommend to the con- 
sideration of Sir Patriclc Colquhouu and hia 
"knighta." A Student. 

"SAUUAor>*A" : "BERSAXDUii -" (n* S. ir. 389.) 

" Sanvaglna.— Fera silveitrii : bete sauvaa:«# qai hablte 
lea fortis; oh sauva^n, saiivagfine (an, 1412). 

*' Dcrsare.— Venari< intra bcrw!! forcstso venationem 
exercere ; cha^ser; ol. beroer" — Maigne d*Amis, Ltx* 
Man, Med. ei luf. LaL, Pur., 1S66. 

Blount's Law DicLf Lond., 1601, has :~ 
'* Bersa (Fr, hers), a limit, compass, or bound;— 
poaturam duorum taurorum per totam bcrsam in foresta 
nostra de Cbipenham, Alc—Moa. Ami,, 2 par. foL 
210 a. 

•• Bcrsare {or Germ, bersen, to shoot). Beraare in 
foresta mea ad tres arcus (carta Bnnulphi Coxnitii 
L'eitrM, anno 1218)» that is, to hunt or shoot with three 
arrows in my forest." 

Ed. Marshall. 

Hauvagiimj or munaqina^ is wild fowl, and more 
especially thonc birds whose usual places of abode 
are raarphea or the sea^coast. Tbe French nauva^ 
(fine, has the same signification. There is an old 
French verb, bet-Fcr^ meaning to shoot, to hunt with 
a bo ST, with which hermnffum maj" be compared. 
Du Cange gives also the Low Latin hirsuj a kind 
of hurdle or osier-work used as a fence around 
hunting forests. B^rmre wouhl very naturally 
derive from herm. See Littre, Bercmu and 
Sauva^ine. HEyRi Oausserox. 

Ajrr Academy. 

Dufresne, under "Sauvaginti/' refers to sylmticuSf 
which he renders " agrestis, inctdtus, a«pero ingenio, 
sanvfuji, lUlhgrUcatiro" ; and under " Salvaticus," 
7jro Silvaticus^ he says; — '*In Churta Edw. IIL, 
Regis Atigl., torn. ii. Morttutic.f p. 768, Sauvagijw^f 
dicontur fonn silvestre.s : De tota saurogitui^ et 
omnibus hesiiis iilveitribits Cf'juscHnmie gentrU 
forcnt . . . quao invent^t in clauso iU KiU^ ad ber- 
sandujn^ vcnamhim^ iapirmlumf &c. Itali Balvaff- 
gifit dicunt. Philippus Mousliu in Menrico I,: — 
' Ciera i mit. et bisset et dains, 
Puis counins, lievrcs, et ferains, 
Et manierc de Bftuvejjine.' " 
And he renders BcrmrCy hirsart^ 'Wenari, intra 
bcrmi^ foresta^ venationem exercere.'* Lc Iloman 
dc iiariny MS. : — 

" Et en riviere r\ les faucons aler, 
Et en forest por cliacier el Jltritr," 

Lt Roman de (rirard dc Vuiine^ MS. : — 
" Et la forest ou li Kois dut Birier" 
And be renders Bersa;^ " crates viminifB, seu sepes 
ex palis vel r.imis gmndioribus contexta?, quibua 
silvte, vel parci undi<|ue incinguntur, ut millus 
cervis, ctieterisqae feris ud egressum patent aditug. 
Chart a laudata a Spelmanno : Intra Bersns /a- 
rahrj' &c. B. S. CllARNOCK. 



[5** S. V. Jah. 15, '76, 

Leases for 99 OE 9!)9 Year? (b^ S. iv. ^89, 
472.)^ venture on a conjecture that these have 
originated in lenses fjranted under the ])owers of 
lamilj^ settlements. Such powers, if intended to 
apply to mere agriculturjd leaaeii, would be limited 
to the usual term of 21 year:?. If intended for 
building purposes, on terms which would give the 
builder security for the possession by himself «vnd 
his children, with a prospect of reversion to the | 
lei*3ors family at a period not too remote to he 
contenjplated aa a reality, 100 years would be the 
natural limit. And if the leasing power was in- 
tended to be practically unlimited, it would be 
simpler to substitute KMKJfor 1(M» in the "common 
form," than to express the intention in other wonis. 
When the conveyancer came to act on these powers, 
nice questions might occur to lawyers, such as 
whether a leJvae to commence from a future day, 
fixed upon as the usual rent-daj', would or would 
not be a lease for a longer period than was au- 
thorized by the power, and might induce him, ex 
ahumlante cantcldj to reduce the term to 990 years, 
rigbtlj' considering thnt in a looo years' term a 
year more or less was of no practical importance. 
The same considerations in a less degree would 
account for the substitution of a 99 years' term 
for 1()«> ; but in preparing the agricuTtuml lease 
the termination of it would be too much in the 
immediate contemplation of the parties to admit of 
the term l)eing curtailed by a single year. Terms 
are created for all aorta of purposes in settlements ; 
and when they are for the purpose of securing]: 
jointures or life annuities, they are usually for lUO 
years, and if for securincj sums of money in gross 
they are for terms of 500 or hMK 2tHH> or 30u0 
years, arbitmrdy chosen for no other purpose than 
to distinguish them from one another xvhen several 
teciDJl are created by the same deed or aubsist in 
the aame family title. They are never for 99 or 
999 years, such terms being invariably confined to 
buUding leases. J. F. M- 

" Carpet knight " (5"' S. iv. 428 ; v. 15,)— 
The distinction is (ptite clear, knighthood of the 
better »ort being bestowed on the field of battle, 
but civic knighthood— an empty compliment to 
wealth, fussiness, or political servility— being <:fiven 
with tap of pointless sword on the courtier's 
shoulder as he kneeled on the carpet. W. 3L 
Praed devotes one of his sparkling charades or 
enigmas to Knighthood, and preserves the contrast, 
ending thus :— 

" Such things hare T&niahcd like n drefttn ; 
The monjErel mob gTow4 prouder ; 
And everythinK: is dore by iteam, 
And men are kill'd hv powder : 
lU.t, KuiclitbooJ] feel, alaa ! my fame decay ; 

I ifiTt" unheeded orders, 
And rot in piUry stute away 
With SLeritfs and Recorders." 

{Pomi, ISei, iL 395.) 

A clever satire, " Verses upon the order for 
making Knights of such persons who hud 46/, /ht 
nnnvm in King James I.'s time/' from Addit. MS. 
No. 5,S32, fol. 2j».\ Brit. Museum, will be found 
complete in the Appendix of Notes to Oioyu 
Dfiilkryf p. SO't, now printed and almo.^t ready for 
publication. Here is one verse, the third :~^ 
'* Kniifhthood in old time was counted an honotir, 
Which the be^t ipiritta did not diidftyne ; 
But now it is u*'d in so ba^e a manner, 

That it 'a noe creditt, hut rather a etaine : 
Tuih it's no<j matter what people doe say. 
The name of a knight a whole village will away." 

In the Laihj of iJu: Lake Roderick taunts Fi 
James as being perhaps a ** carpet knight," canto 
stanzn 14. J. W. E. 

Molaah, by Ashford, Kent. 

CAyoN Law (5"^ S. iv. 51 2.) -Me, Rcst wiD 
find an answer to most of his cjueries in part i of 
Fasting Communionj by the Rev. H. T. Kingdon, 
JI,A., Lonj^joans, 1876, and also reference* to 
canonists, which will enable him to get an nn«tr*r 
to the remainder. Mr, Kin^^^don heads the in 
thus, How Canon Lav: Bind^, and proeeoi 
show, first that there is a difference between ctin a- : 
next, how canons arc binding; and, lastly, ihyi 
disuaer abrogates canon law, 

William Cooke, F.SLA. 

The Hill House, Wimbledon. 

The HuMMiNr,-Tor (o^ S. iv, 209, 254, 45' 
4f>«*.}^Thoiigh the reason of the top sheping is» 
some extent, understood, yet that piienomenon \m 
never been accounted for by strict mathematical 
processes. The equations of motion applicable to 
the case have not been found to yield that liiuir^: 
case in which the oscillation of the axis is appi : 
mately juf. It surely deserves to be recorded, 
while this subject is on the tapiSf that the probieiB 
of the sleeping top was set in the examination for 
the Smith s prize* at Cambridge in 1845. On this 
occasion it is said Sir William Thomson (who 
olitnined the first prize) did not attempt the ^Vh 
blem, but jwinted out to one of the examin* 
the thing could not be done in the manner 
by them. It is believed that Sir Willi 
obtained marks for lea\'infr the problem alonfii' 
fMbat amounts to the same thing) his oppon< 
Dr. Parkinson, lost all he had obtained for a 
tion, which thus proved to be delusive. JaeI2. 

Athenajura Club. 

Heraldic (5*^ S. v. Q.)— Tlie arms inquii 
after by A. E. L, L. are those of Ayahi ; but it 
strange that they should be quarterly 1 and 4, 
Blount 2 and 3, Sancha, or Sancia de Aj 
d.iugliter of Don Biego Goraei, of the houM 
Toledo, often de.Hcrit)ed a.-? "Duke" of Tob 
married Sir John Blount, K.G, CrQke*a 
work on the Blount family, and the Sj 
pedigree in the Heralds' College, give ditter 




rtCCOnoU of tb« Toledo familv. 1 have failed my- 
self to discorer the ^Tounds upon which the 

I ijtjmerc»Ti^ nnJ^ai!shed descendants of Sir 

, John I the arms of C^astile. Is 

A- E. L ia that "Mountjoy" ought 

not to I - i Dste^vd of " Mountfort " in the 

I iKCouat t r .i.t -ijiiis in Middleton Church ? 

^L C. O. H. 

^^Bbe vnts ia rjneslion, viz,^ Or, a tower azure, 
^^ttfoe of tbe quarteringB of the ancient .Spanish 
WtSlr ot Avahk, :ind were brought into the Bloimt 
I c«t DT the* marriiige of Sir Walter Elount with 
DonA S&Dcha de Ayida (see Crt^ke's Ilisti^y of the 
I Blounti, n, jk 173). The shield in ColcsMll 
I Church iniist he turned the wrong way, :is the 
i Blonnt arms, Barry nebul«5e of six, or and &ahle, 
i should no donbt be in the 1st and 4th quarters, 
^m C. J. £. 

PRocisc Lateatt (5» S. iv. 513.)— Whether 
rLooiM LAteau (not Latour) niiU continues to exhibit 
the nine ijinptoma I cannot say^ but until October 
of laat year (1875) her state remained uuiUtered. 
Tbe taat account I hare seen of lier in Engknd 
▼liinthe Brititk Mfdical Journal for Oct, 1875 
fqtiotediD the Timcs^ t!ict. 22), in which extracts 
are giren from a letter of Dr. H. Boeos of Char- 
leroi, which inform ua that — 

•* Duing an inir>c*a which litited about a tnonth, the 
'ttjfisatic' bleediitg stopped, and the 'ecstasies' were 
replACcd by hj6tenc»]l fainting*. Afterwards, the former 
state of things recurred. M. Boens. who bui set a WAtch 
on the family, declares that he ii ia a pDsition to affirca 
and prove that Irouiee Lateau eats and dritike copioustj, 
tad perfomit all the ordinary fnnctians of Tiature. He 
aiMli tliat * ^be frequently rtibs and scratches with her 
m^ft. lod with a rough cloth, eq>ociatly duringthe ni^ht, 
ibc piacei where the blood. (low» ; and keeps up on these 
tp0l9, CTCii Biechaiiically during aleej]. prefture with her 
fitfera, to as to maintain a conottion of local congestion. " 

She is n Belgian, Boi^ d'Haine being in the 
diocese of Fournaia, a Walloon district of Belgium, 
anoary, 1S75, )*he wa« c>!Tercd (see the Thncg, 
7) 30,n<KJ fr. **on condition of subject- 
lielf to BUpervision for eipht days," but no 
was tftk^n of the offer. Whether now she 
been provtd an impostor or not h a matter, I 
it, which mU5t be left to the estimation of 
individuaL Her ciise is not, however, devoid 
terest, inasmuch ns it has already produced a 
tore of its own. Here are tho books about 
which hiiTe so far appeared ;— 
I "I^ni^e l/ateau. fa vie, set extases, wf itigmatet."' 
' " 're. LoaTain. 1>70. Second edit, 1S73. 
ijie de Louise Lateau." By M, Van Looy. 

LatcAU, la ftiginatiice de Bois d'Hftinet 
source* authentiques, mtdicales et tht'olo- 
Par Ic professeur l>r. A. Rohltoig. Bnixellea 

Lateau, die Stigmatisirte von Bois d'Haine, 

Bondern Ta^iichunj;- I*ie Berichte des 

febrre, Prof. Rohling^ Paul Majunke'« uad 

Anderer in ihrer HaltlosigVcit dargelegt ton Dr. B. 
Johnen. " Ciiln und Leipzig. 1874. 

5. " Louise Lateau. " Eapport Medical sur la sti^iiia- 
ti»t'e de Boi* d'Haine, fait a I'acadetuie royale de medecine 
de Belgique, kc, pur le D'Kleur Karlomont. Bruxellea, 

6. " Louise Lateau." Discours prononc^s h racademie 
royale de medecine de Belgique dans lea s^ancei du 'J9 
Mai et du 29 Juin, 1S75, par M. le t'octeur Lefebrre, ic., 
en i^ponge au Rapport 3itdicaJ, ic, Bruxelles. 1S75. 

7. " Louise Lateau devout la phjaiologie et la patbo- 
logic." Par le Docteur X Crocq, kc. Bruxelles^ 1875. 

8. ** Maladies et faculteBdiversesdea Mystiques.'' Par 
Ht. le Docteur Charboonier, kc. Bruxelles, 1S75. 

9. " Science et Miracle. Louise Lateau, ou la stijnna- 
tisce beige." Par le Doctenr Bournerille, kc. Paris, 1875. 
With a portrait of the heroine. 

10. " Louise Lateau, ou lei myett-rcs de Boii tl'Haine 
dcvoilea" Par Hubert Boina, &c. Brnxdie*, 1875. 

11. ''Fin de la com^die de Bois d'Haine." Par 
Hubert Botfiu. Bruxellcc, 1376. 

This list brings the publicationa concerning 
Louise Lateau down to the present moment. I 
doubt, however, whether it is complete. Some 
other contributor to " N. & Q.'^ may perhaps be 
able to make it perfect. Arts. 

" Do UNTO OTHERS," &e. (5"^ S. iv. 34a)— The 
"sneer" and iiuotation from leocmtes will be 
found in a note at the end of the fifty-fourth chapter 
of the Ikdine and Fall. H. B. c\ 

[The passage runs thus :— " A Catholic inquiMtor yields 
the same obedience which he require?, but Calvin vio- 
lated the golden rule of doing aa be would be done by ; a 
rule which I read in a moral treatise of Isocratea (in 
XicoU, torn. i. p. y3, edit. Battle), four hundred years 
before ihe publication of tlie Go*peI, *A Tratrxoi'ttq v^' 
*rfpwv opyt^tff9i, ravra toiq aWot^ pt] Troinff."] 

The Obugatioss op Executors (5^ S. iv. 
34£>.) — I do not think "it is Walker, the author of 
The Orif/inal^ who raises the odd question whether 
a man's executors are not bound to give a dinner- 
party for him if he dies between the invitation and 
date of the bamiuet," 

If Walker did raise the question, it was only at 
second-hand. I took in The Oriijinal as it c^me 
€utj now more than forty years ago, and ray re- 
membnmce of the idea dates from before that time. 
I feel sure, but have not the means of verifying my 
strong imcresaion, that Dr. Kitchener was the 
author of tiie remark, not as raising a question, but 
a5 laying down a principle which ought to become 
a law. Ellcee. 


The Die-sis kerb and Artists in Medals 
OF THE Seventeenth and Eighteenth Cen- 
turies IN Grkat Britain (o'*" S. iv. 44B.) — All 
printed accounts of these medallists are very 
scjinty, and are scattered among several ditferent 
publications. George Vertue's Life and Works of 
Thomas Simon^ the greatest of these artists, is very 
incomplete. Much new information has been dis- 
covered since Vertue's time^ 1753. Horace Wal- 

pole's Ajucdoks of Painting and Pinkerton's 
MeJaUie Hutory of England contain several 
brief notices of medallists. The Numismatic Chro- 
nicle contains some vulnable articles on Thomas 
Simon, the Eoettiers, find Croker (see the general 
index to the old faeries;. Consuit aliso the Hev. H. 
Rudin^a Annals of the Coinagt, 3rd edit., 3 vols. 
4to., 1840. Henry W. Henfret. 

Edmusd S. Pert (kot Perry), M.P. <5"^ S. 
iv. 450), was Speaker of the Irish House of Com- 
Eions from 1771 to 1785, when he was niised to 
the Peerage as Viscount Pery of Newtown Pery, 
cow Llnienck. Thougb twice married, ho left no 
male i»ue, and the title became extinct, His 
yoanger brother, wlio became Bishop of Limerick 
in I7ft4, was created Btiron Glentworth of Mallow 
in 17fM), and was preat-great*gmndfather of the 
present Earl of Limerick. Abuba, 

EdiEond Sexton Pery was descended from 
Edmund Pery of Stackpole Court, co» Clare, by 
the daughter and heircMS of Edmond Sexton of 
St. Mary's Abbey^ who died in 167L 

Edmund S. Pery wji» Iwm in 1719, Spesiker in 
Ireland from 1771 to 1785, elevated to the Peerage 
Dec. 30, 17S3, as Vi&count. Pery of Newtown, co. 
Limerick. He married twice, but, leaving only two 
daughters, his honours expired at his death in 
1806 (Lodge 'ft Fctragc of Ireland; Burke's Pierage}. 

H. M. Vane. 

74, Eaton Place, SAV, 

Skikelthorpb (6*^ S. iv. 450.)— W. N. had 
better consult (he will find it in the Unirersity 
Libmriea at Oxford and Cambridge, nnd at the 
British Museum) a work on geneaJogy, with a 
history of British faniilv names, by the learned 
Eev. W. R. Flett, D.IX, of Sidney Sussex College, 
Cambridge. He Avill almost certainly there find 
infonualJOD relative to the above-mentioned family 

A friend of mine, who says he haa heard of the 
name of Skikehhorpe once, many years ago, thinks 
that it is of Saxon and German origin combined, 
and that at some former time it was spelt and 
pronounced Sknttle-thorpe. Cousiss. 



Herbert Family (.'i'h g. iv. 487 ; v. 18.)^May I 
ask permission to append a correction to ray former 
paper on this subject ? Colonel Chester haa been 
ao Kind as to inform me that Anne Ttilbot, Countess 
of Pembroke, was buried at Erith, Aug. 8, 158H. 
My authority was Harl MS. 597, and I did not 
know that there was reason to suspect any error ; 
but I hope Tyro will pardon me for having unwit- 
tmgly misled him. Hbrhestrode. 

Atubilla FiTZJAMEs (5»* S. iv. 488 ; v. 14.)— 
In reply to Thui?, who deaires to know how the 

pfiper bearing this signature came into njy pos- 
session^ I have to inform him that it was one of a 
large and TaJuable series of papers (principidly 
cheij^ues upon Sir Francis Child, the well-knowy 
banker, which were stored in the upper room o\ 
Temple Bar), which I have had the plejisure 
looking through and sorting. I shall be happy 
ahow them to Thus. F. G. Hilton Price. 
Temple Bar. 

The Charterhouse (5* S. v. 27.) — Beavor 
obviously a variant spelling of Btver^ drink, wl 
is still in use at Eton .is the name of an afterD( 
provision of bread and beer, set out in Hall daril 
the greater part of the suamier half. The djiir i 
which this begins ia called Bever D:iy. F. F. 

WiLL-o'-TnE-Wisp (5'*' S. iv. 209, 235.) — 
the night befobe the day on which I read 
Peacock's communication on this subject I 
at Kiyoto, the ancient capital of Japan, six 
seven *' coipae lights" over an old cemetery on I 
hill. They flickered, but did not change plaoe. 

'^Nrss" (5^ S. iv. 265): to Lamm 
Beat (S*** S. iii. 384, 416 ; iv. 276.)— These 
are Irish, t.f., jV^m, Laimn. Nesjf signifies deat 
and the word J.? signifies a waterfall or 
and is met in many combinations of Irish namea 
plnces. For instance, Askeaton (a town in the cpui 
of Limerick, formerly of some importanee as hai 
returned a member to the Irish House of Conmi< 
and as having been in more remote times one 
the principal seats and castles of tJie Geroldine^^ 
in the province of Munster) represents three words : 
At, a waterfall or cascade ; cacd, a hundred ; idni^, 
fire=lbe waterfall of the hundred fires. The 
river Deel here falls over a series of lim< 
rocks ; and there is a very fine salmon leap, 
tradition as to the hundred llirea is lost in remc 
obscurity. Lamm- b no other than the Irish wc 
La'mhf a hand. Luchd Lfimhaigh were the boi 
men and slingera of ancient and media-val tim< 
and the phrsise ia now applied to shootei 
fowlers, &c. La'mhach is a casting with the 
and, according to O'Brien {DicL^ fo., Paris 
p. 316), •* it is now the word used by the Irish 
shooting." LamTti-jiife is. simply a rough haut 
sometimes called La7nm-hastijfg or hand-beatii 
Lamm-pye iscomposc*! of two IriHb words : La'mh 
the hand, and pighe=^o. pie. ** He haa got lamb ai 
salad " is a phrase that is sometimes heard amoi 
persons who describe an individual that has 
severe chastisement. The word La'mh=hi 
gives force and meaning to these phrases, 
act indicated is done by or with the hand, 
Lamm, The English word lavish comes 
La'mh^ the hand, as does dutch from the 
word Cluthughadh^ to grasp. In the last line 
the following passage from Shakspearo we hav© 



Iiiah word, wtidi is common to tbw day in the 
moutk^ of the people of this countn^ :— 
*' The elements 

Of wbcm jtm tirord is tcnj]>«red m»y as well 

Woand the lood vindj, or with bemocked-a.t ataba 

Kill tbt! tttll docnig Wfttcrs, as dimioiflU 

One dowt< ttel'i in my plurae/* 

"Bowte*^ » none other than dita^, a "strike" of 
flax, or ftith portion of Hux as may be taken be- 
tweto t^e fingers. It may hare been applied to 
ti» bsmd or tie of the plume, or to a portion of the 
plttnM jtodi 

Witb regsurd to the word A&^ I may add 
thai l>ttiMiit, or. in English^ the waterfall by the 
fort, \SL on« of the most remiirkablo and beainiful 
of the ca>-nrlir«. or falls on the river Shannon. The 
luuius i« ftom i>un=a fort ; as a waterfall 

it haft H rated in several works on Ireliind 

(»ee Hali\s Ireland, Brewer's Bcautia of Irdand^ 
Bftrtktt's Fictortal Ireland, &c.). There is the 
ruin of a majs&ive fort or dnn towering high above 
the fiill*, »8 the waters tumble and roar, in mimic 
Kiag:u'a*Ca&hion, over rocks, &c., at this place. I 
ooDmstaLite Dr. Charles Mackay on hb labours 
is the Atfutiffum in the yood work in which he is 
capgdd — ^of pointing out the many EritiBh and 
Inali word^ in the English hmguage as they were 
writUn by Shaksi)eare and some of bis contem- 
porvtes, and of which even Dr. Johnson was 
igooTftnt. A knowledge of international etymology 
wm\d prove of use in ereiy way. 

Maurice Lentha^, M.R.I.A. 

Hott!?GABTe (5»^ S. iv. 207, 378.)— I think thiji 
word iSL quite distinct from Hom-gddt, As the 
Utt« ojetins iKTini vtoneyj and is an abbreviation 
of Ux or money payable on homed animale, so 
HoTH-gitTth means horn atclottife, a guarded or 
wiicIosM plac^ in which homed animals are kept. 
(hrtJL is a-n old North-con ntrj' word, which in law 
dittiuaaries, such aa those of Blount and Cowel, is 
deftDod :i5 a fenced yard, backside, or close. The 
w«fd ^(irth was abo used to describe a water fence 
nr enclasure which retaineii fish ; thus a weir was 
kruicd a water-garth, and the man in charge of a 
t«r is called in statutes of Eic. 11. a Garths-man, 
Edward Sollt. 

The Objgik^ and Stwbolism or the Caiidi- 
m'8 Red Hat (5«» S, iii. 64, 233, 278, 456 ; iv. 
337,)— I can hardly hope to alter the present ntti- 
tede (p. 337) of Mr, Tew towards the work of 
Pietto GUnnone, but I shall venture to offer the 
naden of **N, & Q," both some means of testing 
lutralueas nn histormn, and some independent 
IcitiiDostes to the accuracy of his statement re- 
fftt^g the origin and Bymbolism of the colour 
<i tbe Cardinars bat. First, as to Giannone'a 
•ntkftrily ; it may be suflficient to refer Mr. Tew 
lo Hallam's Middk AqcJj where he will find the 

litOTvi CirlU dl Napoli nuoted along with Sb- 
mondi'a HuiQirc dea liipubiiqucs Italicnnes. Mr. 
Stubbs also <iuote9 Giannone in the now volume 
of hi.-* Constitutional History, Secondly, as to 
the attribution of the red hat to Pop« Innocent IV., 
and the precise date and significance of the gift, 
I will offer Mr. Tew concurrent lines of testimony 
from English and foreign writers of the present 
day, based upon mediaeval authority. 

Mr. T, L. Kington (now Oliphant), in his IJu- 
tory of FredericI: 11.^ Emperor of the Romans, 
vol ii. p. 3^8 (Macmillan, 1862), in describing the 
firat Council of Lyons (1245), suiy.s: •' At thia council 
it wai^ first decreed that the members of tbe college 
should wear red hats^ in token of their willingness 
to fihed their blood for the Church." For tho 
authority on which this atatement ia b;ised Mr. 
Kington-Oliphant refers to ** De Curbio," i, e, 
Nicholas of Corby, an English friar, chaplain and 
biographer of Innocent IV. This is absolutely 
contemporary evidence, and upon it, nn doubt, is 
based the similar account given by if. De Cherrier, 
the learned French historian of the struirgle be- 
tween the Pope.^ and the Emnerors of the House of 
Hohenstaufen {Histoire di la Lutte dcs Papes tt 
diA Empercurs de la Mais&n de SmiabCj par 0. Be 
Cherrier, Paris, 4 voIs.» 1841), vol. iii. pp. 13S-9 : 

" A droits, dans la net, les c»rdinaux-6Tt'ques occu- 
pftient lo premier rang ; puis Tenatent les prttres et le« 
diacres : touA yortaient Ja barrette roupre, qu'on leur 
aTAit dotin^e tout receiutmeDt comme un attribut de Icur 
dignitc cminente. On avnit fait choix dc cette coulftur, 
afin d© timoigner que cliQcun d'eux t'tait pret Hl Terser 
ion sang pour la dtfenie de rj*;gli8e/' 

It will be observed that while Mr. Kiogton-OH- 
phant's words imply that the red hat was decreed 
i>j the Council, of which Mr, Tew cannot find any 
trace in Harduin, the language of M. De Cherrier 
only asserts that a hat or cap (Barretle, Blretta) of 
that colour was then first publicly worn, while the 
symbolism is explained in the same manner by 
both writera. C H. E, Cabmichael. 

" LuKCHEOX^' (5«» S, IT. 366, 398, 43^4, 524.)— 
Very often have I taken ** las once " (5*^ S. iv. 
3!>8) in Spain, and heard it spoken of there and 
elsewhere ; but never did I hear the second word 
pronounced on-che. One/, whether it means the 
number eleven, or, as las onct\ eleven o'clock, and 
the luncheon taken at that hour, is pronounced 
Hn^tM in Uastilian, or im-sc in Southern and 
Amorican Spanish. 

Sometimes, by way of jest, las once h said to 
take its name from tbe eleven letters of aguardiente 
(= brandy), and to mean a draiti, 

Henry H. Gibbs. 

St. DunstanV, Regent's Park. 

Lord Lytton's "King Arthttr" (5^ S. iv. 
148, 192,)— Mr. Chas. Kent has alluded to some 
of the clever sketches of contemporaries contained 




in thia work flu *' not unwisely eliruinated from the 
later editions.'' I oianot see the wisdom of such 
eli mi nation. The portraits are in themselves 
strikiD^'ly clever ; and in mv poor judj^meut are 
C[nite defensible. It i» true* tlint the satire con- 
tained in some of them m pungent enough ; but 
then it is polished, and refers not to private 
cbanicier, but to the characters of the personage® 
aa thev appeared to the public, and^ in most aiBes, 
may be taken to imply a justifiable moral rebuke. 
I tn;jst, therefore, that they will be presen-ed. It 
may not be an interesting, lookiop at this same 
process of elimination, if a list of the portraita 
contained in the early edition which I read be 
giFen in " N. & Q." Those which I e^isily recog- 
nized were I^ui^ Philippe, Guizot^ th^ late £arl 
of Durham, Earl Kuseell (then Lord John), the 
Bishop of Exeter (Philpotts), Duke of Wellington^ 
Lord P^lmerston, Macaulay, and Disraeli. One 
other rather puzzled me at the time, ^ind I nifty 
l>e wrong now in fancying it to be the " Rupert of 
debate," the late Earl of Berby. But perhaj)9 
Mr. Kekt will give his valuable opinion on this 
{I have not seen the eliminated etlitioas) :^ 
*' £ut, like the rigour of & Celtic Ktream, 
C{)m«3 LrQbd^i rush of manly fen*e alonp, 
Freil) iKith tbe ipurklei of a Le&Itbful beaiD, 
And quick with im|»ulso like a poet's sonif. 
How liit ning croirdi tUat knigbtlj Toice dclightv, 
If from the crowd are bfttiiali'd all but knighti ! " 

M, H. E. 

iLFRACOMnE (5^ S. iii- 449 ; iv^ 31, 213, 256.) 
— Perhaps the epitaph of the wife of Eev. Leonard 
Prince would be acceptable in connexion with this 
place. The tablet from which I copied it is bow 
in the north chimcel aideof Tombe Church:— 

•* In memoriflm Elfzabetlicii! filiae Jiilmnnis Gougli € 
eomltatu SoineKettftisia Aniiigeri cnnju^ia Lcoiinrdi 
Frincfl huius eeelesiio p».BtiDris qiire oliiit -5* ~^'* Ai\o 
Doiaaim 1655^ ^Etatii Etife 37. 
tiuftlij emt quaoruB ? Kptruv eognoicito Lector^ 

yioo^tii* uix citpiint, marmora, talis emt 
E m«ljore luto pea* lianc SaturafjuQ firixit, 

Quippe Dei Veri yera ei ammitii aiuang; 
Corpora sic fiierAt, «ic tiiente bic uiidinue pukhra, 

Eifulgens doiiii (ut puto) nemo inngia. 
Corpui, terra tegit, Ca*li mc-ns sede i|uieseit, 

Quod tity mani?s erat, Vfc uiihi funug ent, 
Quse Ecribo niJ eunt luctum t^etjuitia ; non eit 

Est quoaiam did non licet augit ernt. 

Parce miki Lictor^ camemque redargue multum, 
C um Icuit loquitur qux j^uia ilia t tupet L. P. 
Nome&> El chart 
Anag. / puatibeei." 

T, F. R. 

TftsiSWARE (o'^ S. iv. 308, 33L)— The folbw- 
itig quotation clearly ^bows the mejimng in the 
sixteenth century :^ 

"Wban lid touclieth an ertben «He1I, it ihtdl bt 
broken; but tbe trtoi TenieU »ha]l be reused with 
water. '— Coverdftle'a translation of LeTiticua it. 12. 

Coverdide alao ii?ea tre where onr Authoriiied 
Version u^e^ *'wood"; in Gen. vi 14, **>faki 
the an Arke of Pyne trc.'* So, in Exod. xxx. 10, 
26, ** Make an Arke of Fyrre Ire " ; '* foare pilers ol 
Fyrre trc^ ; and in eh- xxvii. 1, " an Altare of Fine 
fr<.'' But the word krratc was used for terrestiial, 
earthly, as in Hooker's Ecclesiastical Pcliiy^ bk. t. 
cb. xxxiv,, " Urratc powers.' Thia might have heen 
pronounced trfetK PutieDhata, in his J.r*e of En§liA 
Fomtt hho speaks of " ttrrau and base goda," 
i. 3tii., and *^ terrene justice," ii. xi. (Arber's ed.). 
In the HoiiiUy on, the i^^-ramml we vead of 
" terrene and earthly creatures/* W. P. 

Foftflt Hill. 

Monumental lyscRirnoNS itr Noejia5- 
Frew'ch (5«»» S. iv. 449.)— Mb. Boask will find 
many instances of Norman-French iQicriptions in 
Haines's Manual of Momimtniat BrasMes, Catti'i 
Incised Slahs^ and BoutelFs {l\Tisfian Monu- 
ments, It is surely very exceptional to find, not 
only Norman-French, but any ingcnptiDns oo 
monuments, earlier than the thirteenth oentozy. 
A considerable nutuber of the thirteenth ce^nt^i 
bvit still more I fancy of the fourteenth centaif, 
inscriptions were in Korman- French, which wm 
the language of the Court, This toDgae «ii 
chiefly atlected by knights and ladtes^ whilat priiiti 
were, for the most part, heid in memory in cancoi- 
cal Latin. 

I have looked throitgh the pages of Weerfrt 
Funereal Monuments^ and find trie following niUB- 
ber of inscriptions in Kon nan- French : diocese of 
Canterbury, two without date, and four of the 
years 1»75, 13T6, 14iXt, 1407, refipectively ; dio- 
cese of Rochester, four without datt, and one of 
each of the years 1354, 1300, 1S67, 1309, 13A 
1385, 1392, 14f>7 ; diocese of London, ei^t wilt 
out date, two of 137^% two of 14W, ana one d 
each of the years 1221, 1350, 1362, 1371, 1380, 
139C, 1309, 1414 ; diocese of Norwich, foux with- 
out date, and one of the yenr 1373. 

There is onlv one monument, to my knowledge 
in the hundred of Scars<!ale, in this county, having 
ft Xoinmn -French inscription, and that i» in d» 
church of Barlow. It is to the nienjory of Julii, 
the wife of Adam Fmunceis, but the inscription vi 
imperfect and without a date. I take it, howerir, 
to be of the third cpzRrter of the thirteenth cen- 
tury, J, CaARL£3 Cos. 

CkeTin House, Belper. 

The Rev. Samuel Ha j man, in his pnblithed to- 
count of the antiquities of YoughaU oo, Cork, giftf 
three of these iascriptions from ancient monntBentt 
there. They are all rather incomplete, owing » 
the monuments being defacsed. One, which coui- 
niences *' Alathev ; le : >nercer : git : yci : " coof 
meiuoTates Matthew Le Meioer, who wa» coUeder 
of customs at Youghal, and appeus to hiw died 
there about the clos« of the thirteenth orhegiiuiiof 




<jf the fcmrtAenth e*»nttirT. Mr. Hayman i^uotes 
tbe mr ^ ' Exchequer of the 31st 

to iht rJ I.» in which there ia 

»ti cn« lo :>ianiniis de Coumbe, the suc- 

ceftj^oi er in the office of collector, 

\V, H. Patterson* 


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hy hit •wfing mtr«i]Ucc. 

A jperoMil of this Appeodix »boald be rafficieni. we 
l^^i-.t. -;„.,„ . „.. ^ j,g ,,|j^^ jjnj j,(j|. already attained 

CO il acquaintance with the litem- 

tu lo inicrutable nature of the ever- 

I.- - iiil and body and of the unseen world. 

iVBoeer at the shadows and fallacies 
V human reasonings, but on this, n« on 

»! vliereare we to select our guides if not 

f T who employ thc>e despised wraponal 

R : M above rcAson, and affords im litchts 

whi. .1 c 1 nitellect* could never attain. Sweden* 
h"T . isim to privileges of insight which are 

l< few whom Dirine Providence 

i^ '-■i b^ meana of which we obtain 

|t^ 'I that IB beyond our senses^ It ia 

f to reject hia and similar c la imj* ; but 

t: tiont of those who make the claims in 

c .iL the theoriea of thoee who build upon 

XI -an buman observation xs unfair to tbe one, 

^i,^ -A T>- ry to the claims of the other class of in- 

fonoante. I r we believe that to Swedenborg was accorded 
% Ti«w of heaven and hell, his revelations supersede and 
ItaderttnntOftiaryaU mere human conjectures rcgardint; 
iW qilHtoat world. If. on tbe other hand, we place his 
tm' T iiutx* (ti the subject of this Tractate to the account 
f^' ling long over tbe qucfitions that enchained 

ii- "* can Mt bim in no higher rank than that 

^*iut e reiuft of whose Ubours, 

fal tfcf ' 1 by him, the Appendix to 


]|r« * <' opifiiou that Swedcnborg'a philo- 

•eeliicui vras brought out by a special Pivino 

CI?' ^ !> be correct . diatritiei against unAided 

c - and theories are sit eopei^uoas as 


7 ttion Of Gttat i'tum^w/A* itith Oorlafou 

'i*n Bv Ohurle* Jnbn Pntmer, F.S.A., He. 

[m^ ".in 

Vr 11 to speak in terui« 

m ".Timer's well-directed 

IlKouns la imi tuUr m lorut wurih^ «f tbe aocteut «o4 

interesting town of which he is a native, the result of 
the many years which he has devoted to tbe study of ita 
records and htatorv. On the appearance of the first 
volume, in May. Ii572, we spoke of it {i'^ S. \x 437) ae a 
luciil history of which the author's fellow townsmen 
might well b<^ and ought to he proud. The second 
volume fully justified that eulogium; and now tlrnt 
Mr. Palmer hta brought his labour of love to a close hy 
the publication of a third volume, as rich in literary 
interest and os profusely illustrated, and made especially 
availnble by very complete Indices, we offer him our 
hearty congratulutions on the success of hh hibouri, and 
our teat wishes that he m»y long be spired to enjoy 
the reputation which must ever attach t ) (h« tiuthorohip 
of Thf PfrlmtrtUion of Great VarniOMth, 

The DitcTipaneiti of Fretnwson^Ti/ txaninrH durina a 

Witt't Un4*ip mih thf latt <fltf>raUd Lfxtfktr GUkti^ 

find other emin<nf Mosom, on fttndr*/ ttfucure and 

Dfj^tiiU Pastaga i« the ordinary tftdfte Lectnrtt, 

nrhick, althouffkopen, Qvettionj in Orand Lodfje, ronsti- 

tuU n Source of Ihutt and PerpitxUi/ ta tlt« Cfajt. 

By the Rev. O. 6Uver» l*D. With numerous Diagraiua. 

(Uo>rp k Co.) 

This title-pa^e so fully explains the nature and object of 

this valuable work, we need only add that a good deal of 

ftmu^enicnt it mixed up with the instructioD, and much 

ptayfulnesj with profound learning. 

Thi AriHcAaUd BooH' of Common. Prauer, furming a Con- 
cite Commentary on the Devotwfujj SvBtemof tht Church 
0/ Enffl<tnd. By the Rev. J. H. filunt, M.A., F.S.A, 
Compendious Edition. (Rivingtons.) 
So much has already been said in commendiition of this 
most useful work of Mr. Blunt's that it only remains for 
us to thank him for having now placed it within reach 
of the many. We command to our readers' attention 
Mr. Blunt's note on the Tt Diwm, as *' thm most vene- 
rable hymn * haa lately been a subject of discuasion in 
these column^. How many church-goers are aware of 
the fact that the Jubilate was interted originally as a 
substitute for the Ber^cdictuSf when the latter occurred 
in the Lesson or Oospel? Mr. Blunt writes;— "The 
days on which it (the Jubitatf) should be us^-d are there- 
fore the fr)llowirii; — Fah, \^^ June 17, June -4 <3L John 
Baptist's Day), Oct 15. The general e.ubstitution of the 
Jubilate for the Btnedictus ia Very much to be depre- 

Tfi€ y^fic Qtfartxjli/ Miig<uine, Januarv, 1S76. (Ward* 

Lock i£ Tyler) 
Tbe only chanize made in this popular periodical con> 
siste in an increase of matter, and, as a new and special 
featiire, a review of the literature of the precedini; 
quarter This is rather alashingly done ; bnt if tbe new 
censor i^ severe, be also haa the sense of faimen which 
leads him to quote the various judgments of other critics 
on the same work. This is both novel and good. The 
whole number i«i fuU of interest tr> the scholar as well aa 
to th. . ' nler. Miss Cobbe and Miss Constitnce 

Rotli- nish themMlves amon^ the ladies ; and 

Mr. M ilir.s haa a eamtfil goeaipin^ article on 

almanac>, A paper on .^uchylus and Victor Hugo, 
signed R. B., should be read in conjunction with as 
eaaay on the former poet in the Comhitl Ma*fatiht, 

ly Time and Time-Tejlert (Hardwicke) Mr. Ben«oo 
has ^ven a very interesting account of that manafacturi3 
with which his name is so intimately aesoeiated ; but, as 
modem wc>rkman*hip is included in hi« general survey, 
we mr>y be jmrdoned for remarking on the absence of all 
nicntiifii of tbo great clock at W^e^tminster. Mr, Ben*on 
tell* us that it is rumouTed that St. James's Palace cbick. 
is shortly to be remored to i^x^ ^cl^^\^x '!&A^!.!i&&.iy3>^ 



Jan. 15, 7G, 

>rmeura. May ire tentarc t^* exprcsfl » hope Ibmt, for 
the »ake of venerable Bfl»ociationi, the fomiltar o)4 dlala 
and chimes nifty remain untouched 1 

AUIUOKS A«I» QCOTATIONS Waated (5^'' S. ▼. 19.)— 

** Sitting by Ihfr poisoned/' kc. 
In reply to T. W, C, the auihor ii»ked for i*,I belierc, 
Siegfried Mahloiann. Tlic foJluwing Is » tnuuktion, by 
«t ><»ung lady, of the «tanzii of which the lines quoted 
form part :— 

*• When the gloom i* deepest round thee, 
When the bond« of grief harq bound thee. 
And in lotielinew and sorrow 

By the poisoned *pringt of Ufe 
Thou sittc5t» yeurning for a morrow 
That will free thee from tlic atrife/' 
If flic remaining ^tanzaj arc desired, they will he found 
in Mr*, Oore'a novel, Pars and Parvenu*. 
" If HeaTcn bo pleased," SiO. 
The Unea quoted by A» C. O. have hoen applied to 
other pertatie besides Bonner. It is recorded that on x 
ivindow at the inn at Aust Passage, near Bristol, \tas 
written the fullowinff:— 

"On John StokcB, Altomey-at-Law^in New Inn, London, 
If Heaven he plca^i'd when Sinners cease to Sin, 
If Hell be pleai'd when all the Damn'd are in, 
If Earth bo plens'd when ridden of a Knare, 
All must be plees'd when Stokes U in his OraTc." 

W. DlLKE. 


'* So Doar, BO yery near to God," &c. 
Thit i« one Tcrae of a hymn by C, Paget, which com- 
mencei, '* A mitid at perfect peace with God.' Lat- 
CAiTMA will find itaa No. 7 in tlie London Ilvmn Bool\ 
cr No. 2l7 in the Presbyterian CoMcction. I fail to 
discover it in other hymn books of which I have copies, 
Aud they ftre not few. Hfaa e.^tbcde. 

**TflB LATK ET>MFjr» LlHTHALl. SWTFTB, EsQ." (I. L. S. 
wriUs), *• wasthoyounffer eon tf Theophilus Swifte. E^q., 
«f Goodrich, Herefordshire, and grandson of DcfiaeSttifte, 
Esq., of Worcester, and Ca^tte Kickard, county Meatli. 
The latter ffctitletiian wa» the nephew of the great Dean. 
Although descended from the two great regicides. Mr. 
Bwifte waa a royalist of the highest order. With him 
loyalty was a principle, without which no man could be 
n gentleman* ilia attachment to the reigning dynasty 
inada it ft proud distinction for him to hare borne arms 
in 170d< He was the eldest rolurtteer. An accomplijhed 
tcholar and authority on the English laugu^ge, Mr. 
Bwifte had few equnh. He has loft a large and com- 
parotiTcly younff family to lament his loM. He lived to 
see hii deficendants of the ftftU generation. Boru on 
Julie 20, 1777, dying on I>ec. 28, 1875, he w&i conje* 
■^^nently in the ninctj-ninth year of bis oge, and in pot- 
eessiou of hi« great facultiea/' 

The l>ub!iti irarif^r has the following additional 
factt : — " lie was the last of & generation of the same 
blood of eittniordinary longevity, four of whom have died 
lit, or very near, the fttme ago, within Iho last twelve 
months. Ho wa? closely slUi'd in kindred to the fumiiy 
of Swifte, of 8wifte'« Htath, Kilkenny. He occupied for 
ihe greater part of half a century a post of high trust 
under (iovernmcnt as Keeper cf the Crown Jewels in the 
Tower of Londom At an advatiwd age he retired on a 
handsome iicn^ion, with the view of Pjn'mling the rest of 
his diiys in the more genial climate of France. Mr. 
Swifte married four wives, by each of whom be had a 
family, amounting in the aggregate, it is said, to thirty. 
He waa the second son of Theophilus Swtfte, a prrgoa^ 

cious subject, who, besiics having come to blows, literarr 
a4 well a« physical, with the principals of Trinity Cot 
lege, WM8 wounded in a duel by — Lennox, afterwudt 
Duke of Richmond and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland." 

•'Not Lost, but goxk before."— On ihi^ qi)Ot«t2«a 
a correspondent sends us the foUowini; :^'" .V* to tha 
referring of this phrase to l^eneca, i§ it generally know 
that what he says in his Sixty-third Epistle, wincT 
with the espres<iion, 'Fortasse. quem put»ris p<| 
pra?misjiis est,' is an am|«UfiC4tion of what Antiph 
one of the Gnomic pocti, wrote four centuries before '. 
His words &r«:— 

6v yap TiB^aviv, aXX« rtjv avrriv vt'ov, i/v wt 
i\Qnv tar avaynaiut^ ^X'^*'* wponXTjXv^airiv. 
Or, in the lran«lation. * Nee cnim pericrunt, ted 
<\Mxn\ iiecesjitaa indixit cunctis, antevorterunt 
Possibly Antiplianes was not the fyni to expi 
idea. Jobs 3lACPnBt80A.* 

Text por Issqribivo ovir a Dixing-Rooji 
"Whoso ii liberal of hl« meat, men shall fpeak well 
him ; and the report of his good hoiuekeepiog wdl le 
believed,"— Ecclesiasticus xxxt 23. 

J. L. Clutoed Sj 

C. M. ToRLESSK (Stoke by Nayland.)— Our 
correspondent, Mr, F. O, SxKruE.vs, writr-- 
is ft copy of this broadside in the British ^ 
lection of Satirical Printa, No. 14^55. When ' 
the famo I made considerable search into al 
and other local histories, wherever it ayn 
was a chance of getting information. I had i, . 
and was forced to leave the thing as it ia. 
there la nothing to explain beyond what ws XDKfl 
from the text, which is plain enough." 

A. M. D.— Gibbon, in the fifty-fourth chapter 
Biilmy of Oit Btdint and Fail of tkt Keviatk 
sayi, '* Luther maintained a corportat^ and Calvin 
presence of Christ in the Eucharist ; and the oyai 
Zuiogliu^, that it is no more than a«pirttua1 comi 
ft simple memorial, has slowly prevailed in the ""' 

F. J. v.— Mb, Skeat writes :— " I had not 
the correction in the Tvo ICobU Kintm^ii sn^jreftedl^ 
F, J. v., or I would gladly hava ucknowlcJ 
emendation occurred to mo indt^peudently : 
not difficult, I rather wonder that Mr. Djec 

O- P.— In 1793 the French revolutionary gorenw 
prohibited the performance of Vohoire's .1/ 
ground that there was in it a queen in, ii; 
lamented her dead hubband, and de*ired tl 
two absent brothers. 

W. WixTERs— The term quoted must have been' 
wh at you Puggett. 

E, K. — You had better write to the papers of 
you complain. 

C, A. W.— See Tocttui for the origin of th^ 
quoted by Earl Kttn«ll. 
T, AKD J. Tat LOR.— Forwarded to H. S. A. 

F. R.— We should be glad to see the lines. 

Editorial Communications should be addressed to ** 
Editor of 'Notes and Queries '"—Advertiacmenta 
Business Letters to " The Publisher "—at the Offiot. 
Wellington Street, Strand, London, W.C. 

We beg leave to state th<\t we decline to return 
mitnications which, for any reanon, we do not prifli ; 
to this rule wo ci*n make no exception. 




L03tpOA\ HMfCMiA T, JASi'A&r f». Wt. 

COITTBJfTS.— S« 108. 

inimot*f PotiBh Princen. 01— Who Shot Kel- 

TloMM Hill jAmleaon - Tbfl Ooun* of Thoaghl 

'i<n CbofM of Action— LtoM on the Letter U, 

^.mliw»— Special I'r»yer— J?*vcre Winter* - 

..chwd flanrej'a AUaamna to the Dnaitt, 65^ 

NaiaflB: Albeit— The A»pen in Ulster— luacrip- 

OB dock Fmm— FoolbAll—Boy ; BiAbotii— Tavern 

QirSUXB >^SLr n«iry Wottao— Lady Gre«nvlIJ— Pagfsmo, or 
Bmwm. r»' N»i»lw»-M»]or Fnwjclj Ilerwro, C7— WUrfonl 
WmmXfy <-* •■ ■' '^M School Hook— "LJber VcriUtii"— 
SoJbto 5« > >nlcr of the QinialdoUtes— *' Saturdaf 

JIlKhl'i -Lord ChjiBocUor KlIestnerB-Tho Um 

off ika *w- ..». o*^i-"Uinnli saltu*," &c.— G. Butter of 
Ikiikmxaiy — Portntil — Cookersiuid Abbe/ — 

KEf ait of Prwice and Spain, 65)— *• Brand- 

I, Jind Span New," 70— *H(?/j— K*^»»>i»* 

>i-«.. «-—....- — , Mast/T^ (,r ijimcrtiigB, 72— BegUtram 
iscrvB linl*vt*rtittm, 7'i—- -\Vatch SoaLs— Arch- 

dMCOMT SmIo— filMlapeiir. ' ' \V IUq ISegnilo "— 

IDod four rt ftod Q«> ix .r.e Leaved oo Ducal 

Ooroaeto— Dr. Boaer'a " iiiblc>UievtA Univeraaliii Auieri- 
omb" — FhUadfllpbia Aathora — L'hrijitmaa Mammeis — 

WlMttod FAmi 
-Tlie Tmmx 

'"'- KpistoJ* ad PolMoncm'" — 
—Irish Pronnncifttlon of 
[.re— NuraliHjaLic— *' Finn- 

uner— **St. Irvjnu ; or^ the 

tv-liefonnalion Omrch l*lale — 

tie of "m«ht Hnnoorablo "— 

-.-ir.nry Clarke, LLD.-- 

Latean— The Ute 

ll«taf «ft Bo':J£j^ 4-c. 


Amon-j tJie Rjany interest in nr topics diecwssed 
IC ' inrcstigat^d by the learned author 

of ifmiiti of Literature, Calamities of 

Auikon^ 4q., I do not recollect any inquiry as to 
wh(f many Vvrtk? cnnie to be written : I allude 
mort p^ ' ^ < • bookii on subjects quit« foreign 

Pa tlw I I the writers, and which may be 

ii^ to owe I to accident. Yet the sub- 

jfct 18 onr v rensire reading would have 

«littU«d him tu trc u amusingly and instructively. 

I b^eT« literary men may often say with 

* Tljere '» « difinity doth «hape our eodi, 
Bough-bew them how we may *" ; 

ajid thut circumstances often lead men to write 
rhnt th/ V never contPnir>l itp.L nnd to leave un- 
w: ':n on tbi^ Q of which they 

h- 1^ much th ;ae, and labour. 

Krir *:^ntury «^, when I began to 

rr. ?nme chaitnitig papers by Sir 
^ ive, and others, on the 

ular fictions," attracted 
ftUcDLjtj. Tht iiiljcct 90 fascinated me that 
1 {funriiHt 11 with earnestnesa, and was eventually 
r»«a7d«d bv the dijcover)- of what I then believed, 
Btni bcliere, to be an important ekuient in the 

history of the dissemination of popular tradition^ 
which had been orerlooked by those accomplished 
schoLirs, as it has been since' by Keightley, Prio^ 
and other subaequcnt writers. 

Having given the subject much consideratitm, 
and collected what I thought strong evidenoa of 
the .soundness of my viewa, I ventured to consult 
my kind and learaed friend^ the late Mr, Doao^ 
and I was warmly encouraged by him to pursue mj 
inquiries ; some years afterwards I received siim- 
lar advice from Dean Miluian ; yet, though I hav9 
many " priefs of it in ray note-book," — formed « 
collection of books on the popular songs, legendi^ 
and auperatitions of different natious perhaps ua- 
rivftllcd, — written a few papers on ^bakspeare** 
Folklore,— coined that aame word folk-lore, and 

fmbliBhed a long and perhaps deservedly fnrjiottea 
ittle book. Lays and Z4^entU of P'arioas Nationu;, 
—all the time, thought, and labour bestowed bj 
mo on this subject hm envied in nothing. 

But, though not a line has ever appeared of 
what I once ho|>ed would win me some reputation, 
I have been led, partly by force of circurastiJioea, 
purtly by what 1 felt to be an act of duty, to pub- 
lish two books which I certainly never conteoi- 

How, being neither physiologist nor statist, I 
was led to publish a volume, The Longevity of 
MaUf developing, for the first time in a book 
devoted to the subject, those views which a me- 
dical dissentient from them hi\3 designated the 
**Thomsiftn theory," I pa-«s by at the present 
moment. How, being neither lawyer nor politician, 
I have been led, I believe 1 may truly Bay, oe an 
act of duty to undertake the exposure of the in- 
numerable falsehoods of Mrs, Serres, ia more ger- 
mane to the present commumcatiom 

Two great lawyers, one a great politician, wero 
accessories before' the fact. When on a vutit to 
Lord Brougham, in 1858, he gave me a copy of 
Mrs. Ryves's Appeal for Royalty ^ which htwl ju5t 
been sent to him by poaU I read it, and told 
him, when he asked my opinion of it, thnt I 
thought it just as fibsnid and untnuhful as her 
mother's attempt to prove that Dr. Wilmot wn 
"Junius," which I had read some twenty year* be- 
fore. A long and curious conversation with Lord 
Brougham led me to feel an interest in the stib- 
ject which I had never felt before ; and when th« 
Ryres trial took place in 18(16, I watched its pro- 
gress with great curiosity. A day or two after ite 
conclusioD the Lord Chief Baron (Pollock) askt^ 
me if I had any copious history of Poland, and em- 
plained that his object was to ascertain some wtg^ 
ticulars of Poniatownki, whose ai.stcr or dtutgitter 
Dr. WUmot was said to have married. No suoh 
history exists to my knowledge ; hut u reference to 
the Annual Ktgidrr and Oetttltmnn'g Magazint 
gave me a few dates, nnd I \)tom\3>c4 VV^ \avwa«A- 
judge that I wou\d endeavour \/o wtt*'w«t^»^6>oj*''*V5 



[S*" S. V. Jak, 22, 751 

Happily 1 1 ucceeded. In " N. & Q." of July 7, 
1866 (3^ 8, X. 1-3), the reader will find, on the 
best Polish authority, kindly furnished to me by 
Mr. RttlatoD* the eminent Sckvonic scholar, that 
Poniat«waki had do sister whom Dr. Wilraot could 
have married ; and I went further, and showed 
that Poniutowski, having been only seventeen 
years of age in 1749, the date of the alleged mar- 
ria^e, could not have had a marriageable daughter. 

My interest in Mre. Serres^s falsehoods beinf; 
thus stimuLited, I next investigated her wicked 
scandals about George II L and i\\Q Fair Quaker 
The result was that, in *'N. & Q." of February, 
1867, I proved the whole story of Hannah Light- 
foot to be a myth as far as concerned George III., 
and, in the interest of truth, felt it my duty to 
reprint my discovery in the Httle volume which 
appeared in 18G7, under the title of Hannfih 
Lightfoot ; Queen Charlotte and th€ Chevalier 
If Eon; I}r. Wilmof» Folish Princesg. And this 
is the second book published by me under the 
force of circumstances, and the publication of 
mrhich I certainly never contemplated. 

The result of these investigations was to inteuRify 
my intejest in the story of Prince&s Olive, which 
was increased by my purchase, at the sale of filr. 
Robert Cole's MSS., of a large mass of original 
letters and documents connected with Mrs. Serres 
and the knaves and dupes who were her associ- 
ates. Among these are papers and letters of 
Serres, Including his will and the deed of separa- 
tion ; some ^W letters of Mrs. Serres to Lady Anne 
Hamilton, and MSS. in that lady's handwriting ; 
a sort of autobiography of the Eev. William 
Groves, who pretended he was the Prince of 
Monaco, and copies of his numerous letters to 
ministers, advocating the claim of the Princeas ; 
curious letters by Mr. Strango Petre, wlio some- 
times called himself Fitz-Stratheorn, sometimes 
Fitz-Olarence, and thirty-two printed pages of 
letters addressed by him to a lady of title, and so 
printed no doubt for the purpose of extorting 
money from her or from her family j also various 
other pai>ers connected with the Princess too 
numerous to mention. 

I have since from time to time exposed the 
utter falsity of many of Mrs. Serres's statements. 
I do not believe there is one which I cannot 
equally demolish ^ and I hope to be permitted to 
perform a duty which I feci I owe to the Crown 
and the nation, even though by so doing I offend 
those enlightened patriots who compound for their 
abuse of royalty by their patronage of those who 
are oniy pretenders to it.- 

Aft^r replying to the shake of the head which 
this statement may evoke from some grave 

"* .My pulie as youra doos temperately keep time. 
And beata as heultbful inu>ic," 

I will give him an account of a curious fact which 

I have just discorered, and which deserres a place 
in a future history of imposture. 

It is a stnjng proof of Mrs. Ryves's justifia* 
tion in believing the public had for^t*'^'*' -" 
about Mrs, Serres's absurd claim, that, wi 
revived it nearly half a centurj' later, 
the audacity to start, as her mother hi 
before her, with the marriage of Dr. Wli 
the Polish Princess j and Mrs. Kyves must liatv 
known, though nobody else in court, includtTi- thf 
learned counsel, knew it, that the Polish 1 ' 
had been proved to be a nonentity as long 
1825 t 

Those who, like myself, are unfortunately oil 
enough to remember the Princess Olive' wfll i 
remember that one of her rivals in notoriety wif 
Mr. ex-Sherilf Parkins, This gentleman ^ ^ 
reputation for gallantry, recorded in a } 
epitaph which some of your readers may r. 
while on the other liand he was cliar<j:i 
having given to her husband an ainator\ 
which he had received from Sirs. Serres. 
letter, a very characteristic one, has been pi 
in other places besides the Memoir of Serrf 
and as there is no reason to believe that th- 
wi^is guilty of the conduct imputed to hiiu, thcf^i* ■ 
no necessity for its reproduction here. ■ 

That the sheriff was at one time a bel>' 
Mrs. Serres there is little doubt ; but the u 
did not last long^ and bis love must hf>\ 
violent, to judge from the violent hate to v. 
turned. I have now before me a cutting,' 
newspaper (name unknown), which contsiiu 
vituperative letter from the ex-sherifi*, da 
cember i'9, 1824, in which he sjieaks of 
*' some years ago, in a letter written to 
paper, denounced as forgeries " the document! 
duced by her, and having since '^ produced 
vincing proofs that the Duke of Cumber^ 
not be her father," But the intexest of 
turns upon the contradiction, complete 
factory, which it furnishes to the absurd 
Dr. Wilmot having married a sister of Pouia 

The object of the letter is to publish the 
sheriff's correspondence with the CounteiM 
kiewiez, a niece of Poniatowskij who 
Engknd in the autumn of ly24. Mr. 
took advantage of her being in London to 
an inquir)"^ respecting her uncle's visit to 
country, which concludes with the folloi^nng 
sage : — 

"Was Stnnialaui, the late King of Poland, era 
England t If so, in wiiat yc«r did bo cotnr > ■» r 
year did bo rottira to Poland i H«d Krii. 
aiflter atvUd PrinceBs I'oniatowBka ] If «o. 
to England with hnr brother the king f uivd if 
returned ta Poland? and if fio, did she ever acknowli 
to hiLTo been married wLile in Englmad 1 " 

To these categorical questions the follow 
reply from the Princeas is short and complete 




From t\* PrmeeM fi^tatoi^^ta to J. W. Parlim, £t>/. 
" Lojidres, le 2'2 Oct. 
•' J'lii recti, mansirar. In lettre que tous ru'&vez fait 
Ihontieur <ic nrrtjrire. nvcc les pftpiefi et Jcs questions 
• i OS. Le feu Eoi de Pologne, StaniakuA 

'^itirement Gt£> en ilngleterre dana aa 
.1 ' r.ncuoe de sei ao&ure n'est T«nuo en 

<:t)ue. Yoilk ce quo jo puia oer- 
t ar, avoir satiflfiiit pur cc» repoiise« 

u Tutrc dt4ir J 4:t «uk &vec la pluR p&rfaito eslime tout a 
▼oa«« La Comtesa^ Tyszkicwiez. 

Pri|jice9ie Poniatowiikn." 

Kxieoara^p^d by the courtesy of the countess, tbo 
'^•— -ff o|*iim irrote to her; but, owin},' to her 
) to Paris the letter did not reach her for name 
T.I t} letter, in which he requested her 
•'with your signature in full, and 
tn certify the same, ua also the 
number, ages, nud titles of the ktt* Kin]:i; Stanis- 
laus's sistera," the following is the lady'd reply : — 
*' Puria, NoveinbTts 15. 1824. 
** J« ▼Ati« demftiiile purdoo, monaiear^ da la distraction 
q ' ' " ' prapcirtcr, sans le bat tor lo pnquet que youh 
1 ihunneur d* m'adreaacr la vtillo de mon 

•i . tjdre«. Quant an dcux lettres du 2ft et 'Jtf 

OcU>br«, Juot je revAtfl a I'lngtaut Ic duplicate, en date 
dv 12 Ngfwnbre^ je ne Ich ai point revuei, Je m'enipresae 
Am *.-.,.- r^riTojer 1m kttrea de la aoi-dlsante PrinceBW 
.ooa reclaxnez, et j'y joins ici raasertiun lu 
qno jtirDaifi aucune de mei tantea, anDutA du 
feu K i^ Aaguste, n'a <:t^ on Angleterre id 

ATtc ii: "eat la, je pense, monsieur, I'liffirma- 

tiQo Que -^uez, et it laquellc jt joins I'aseurance da 

nua pltu porfaitfl eatime. 

(Sigae) Ia ComtesM Tyszltiewiez, 

Prin cease Poniatowaka." 

The alleged ranrrlage of Dr. Wilmot to a kina- 
womanofP ! I is the foundation on which 

the whole ^ i ire of Mrs, Serrea's chnm to 

be OliTe, rnic . ^s VI Oumberhind, was founded, 

I hare now shown, so long since as 1824, 
it was proved on the highest authority thnt Ponia- 
toimki bad DO such kin;* woman, therefore the whole 
^niwTstructure fulls to the grouod. 

I yet, in 1566, Mrs. Ryves couM bring 

' this absurd claim in a court of justice, 

t her counsel learned in the law to 

i^e with the marriage of Dr. WUmot to 

i I . .< t ^ P*>niatowskL 

lirtly the force of impudenoe could no further 
William J. Tuoms. 
m. 09^Tf^*9 Square, 8.W. 

"A^rtnlnr^ of tbe * French Sergeant' who elaimed 
lo lia?« Shot Nelson and to hurc all but Witncaaed the 
iiwfnaflon of Admiral VUIeneure.*' 

A ihort article in the DaUi^ Telegraph of 
IWe; 5?' iky^ested by the defith, at Hamp- 

ton f*^' of Misis Hardy, the daughter of 

'^ JMHt come before rae. In 
arc alluded to, and the ball 
-^ i-iul: killed huu (now with iti setting in tbe pos- 

session of her Mttjesty, the gift of the niece of Sir 
Wm. Beatty, M.D,) is noticed as one "likely to 
reawaken the carious controversy regardinj;! the 
hand by which Nelson fell." The article thus 
refera to the Alt^moirs of a French Serffeant, " an 
English tran.slation of which was published by Mr. 
Golburn some forty years flin*e," in which ** the 
wTiter distinctly and impudently claimed the 
honour of having slain the scourge of the French 
nary. He was armed, he said, with a ship's 
muHket, and fired at random, but was much over- 
joyed when he saw the lord ' drop.* " I 
possess a rather rare collection of nava! memora- 
bilia^ Imvinoj had relatives who dis^tinguiiihed 
themselves in the service, and among my books 
have the work alluded to, the correct title of which 
18, Adrentnres of a French Sergeant during hii 
Campaigns in Itabj, i^pain^ Germany^ RutaicLf 
^Cyfrom \mb to 1823, with the English editor'a 
preface. It was published in 1827 (fifty years 
ago) by Henry Colbum, of New Burlington Street. 
The writer of the article doubtless wrote of this 
work from memory, and therefore his alight 
exaggeration of Robert GuUlcmard'a (for such ia 
the name ho j^ives) self-^loritication at his shot 
— fired from the tops of the Redoubtable^ ** at 
hazard," among the officers near Nelson, on the 
poop of the Victory— havin^f hit the admiral, 
whom he rcco^tiized by his orders and loss of one 
arm, is pardonable. The tlaimant of tbe invidious 
honour, if one reads the account published by Col- 
burn, rather excites surprise at hiy abstinence from 
crying, " Ha ! ha ! " over an enemy, and says that 
" though the shot that had brought down this 
admiral had rendered a service to my countr)^ I 
wsw far from considering; it an action of which I 
had a right to boast. Besides, in the general con- 
fusion every one could ckim the honour ; I might 
not be believed ; so that 1 was afraid of furnish- 
ing my companions with a subject of ridicule, and 
did not think proper to mention it to them, nor 
to the French olhcers I saw on board the Victory." 
1 do not wish to aill special attention to the 
above, for the subject may have been exhausted, 
but to make it prefatory to a&kinc if another state- 
ment made by the " French Sergeant " in hia 
AdventuTt* ever gained any worthy belief. He ' 
states that he was amanuensis to Villeneuve on 
board the Victory, after his capture, and that, on 
his having obtained liberty to return to France, he 
travelled to Morlaix with the admiral, thence to 
Rennes, where Villeneuve was ajBsas.Hi Dated, and 
that be wa;^ all hut a witness to the act, heard 
the iifisassLns departing from the bedchamber, tr>o 
late to give assistance to Villeneuve, whom he 
found with " five deep wounds piercing hia breiist." 
He then tells of his arrival at Paris, and hJs being 
sent for and examined by Napoleon as to the cir- 
cumstances of the death. Would any contributor 
to *' N. & Q."' be able to gi\'e any idea if thA« "^^a 




9ftT ground stated on reliable evidence of an 
act of murder having ended Villencuve's days, 
ntber than the general belief that he died by 
filicide ? I may add that the " French Sergeant " 
itates that he was a conscript soldier, and that his 
service on the Redoubtable was his first ta»te of 
¥attle. A. L. G. 


It was with a feeling of the deepest regret that 
I learned, from an appreciative obituary notice in 
ibe ikntsman of the l()th instant, of the death, on 
tiie 9th, of my lamented friend T. Hill Jamieson, 
tlic keeper of the Advocates' Library. His loss 
kks aifected me more than I can express, and 
leaves a scar that even time will not efface. Mu- 
tiial sympathy in study made us acquainted, and 
a few hours' conversation was sufficient to show 
m that however little we knew upon the subject of 
our esjwciid study, as compared to what we de- 
nred to know, at let«t we had devoted tlie atten- 
tion of love to the object we had pursued. Plea- 
sant, indecil, were the first hours passed in liteniry 
retrospect, and reciprocal the delight to find that 
each had been over the same ground, the sounding 
«f one another's knowledge of books and authors, 
till we separated, like two fencers, each of whom 
liad obtained advantages sufficient to convince the 
other of his opponent's devotedness to his art. 
This is the simple truth, though it may appear 
•gotisticil, and the result was an acquaintance 
which was kept alive by correspondence from time 
k> time. I little thought how serious was his ill- 
ness when he wrote to me a few months ago that he 
had been on the Continent for the benefit of his 
health, but had returned rather wors^e than better. 

He was most careful and conscientious in his 
work. When editing the i<hip of Fools I obtained 
Jbr him, that he might be accurate, an office copy 
of Alexander Barclay's will from Doctors' Com- 
mons. In 1872 he issued a prosjwctus of Halkett's 
great — and, so many deaths has it seen, I might 
almost say fatal — work on the Auonymoutt and 
Faeiuhnyinoiis Authors of Great Jiritain, noticed 
tj me in your number for May 18, 1872. The 
task of editing the MS. proved far greater 
than had been anticipated, and, in spite of the 
»ost arduous work which Jamieson's co-editor, 
Mr. Laing, has devoted to it, no further announce- 
ment as to its progress has been made during the 
last three years. 

Jamieson was always engaged upon some 
laborious undertaking, the editing of the new 
ptinted Catalog^ie of the Advocates' lAbrary (as 
to which I published a note in your number for 
Kay 8 of last year) alone being sufficient to occupy 
tlie time and energies of a large staff. Having 
icad nearly every line of this, so fur as printed, I 
am testify to the great care of the joint editors, 
Halkett and Jamieson ; at the same time being 

aware that it is far from realizing tlie ideal cata- 
logue which lK>th would have desired. 

The iicotnnan informs us that he was bom in 
"August, 1843." The same paper on June 12, 
1872, announced his marriage, on the daypreviooa, 
to Jane Alison Kilgour, who, with two sons, sos- 
vives him, to mourn his premature loss at tbe 
early age of thirty-two. Should I be spared, 
Jamieson's sons, in future years, may rely on one 
friend at least for their father's sake. 

llALpn TDoaiA& 

88, Doughty Street, W.C. 

TiiK Course of THomJiiT contrary to the 
Course of Action.— I have met with twocariooi 
translations in our A. V. which are not altogetha 
indefensible if taken as illustrations of this strange 

1. Acts V. 30: — '() B€o9 tu>i' Trarepoiv ^jfiar 
7/yctp€v 'hurovv, ov vfui'i 6u\€Lpi(ratTt^€ Kpefia- 
o-ai'T« cTTi ^I'Aor. — "The Go«l of our fathen 
raised iip Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged <m a 
tree.'' The tninsLitors idmost invariably torn is 
aorist participle into a co-ordinate verb, pretUiMf 
the main verb of the Greek. But here it ia taiki 
amusing to notice that the comparatively unnsml 
position of the participle after the principal T«b 
has caused translators to bring out a vartpof 
TTporepav in their version. I think that, to nj 
the least, this might lead to some misconcepdon a 
the truth in the case of a misinformed reac^r. 

2. Eph. v. 2G : - iva avrijv uyiao-^^ KaOapitni 
TO) Aoi'T^Mo TO? v6nT0'S Iv pyj/iaTt. — '^ That he 
might sanctify and cleanse it with the waahing of 
water by the worrl." Here the action of cleaosinc 
is exactly coterminnna and simultaneous with that 
of washing. But tlie mistake, if such it may be 
calletl, is exactly parallel with the former. I mn 
heard this called a serious mistranslation, whidi it 
certainly is not, although it would hoLve h«i 
better rendered ditierently. 

The well-known passage from the jSneii, 
" Moriamur et in me<iia anna ruamus," is abort 
the best instance of this figure of speech that I 
know of. The other (|uotations cit«d above oie 
perfect instances in the Greek, albeit that the 
language used in ordinary enough. It is when co- 
ordinate verbs are employed that the trope becoiMf 
striking, as a conjunction nearly always iniplia 
an order in action which corresponds to the oidtf 
of the words. 

Deduction and induction may be well explained 
by this means, the former being the scientific O- 
pression of the course of thought, the latter of the 
course of action. DnxELMKXsn. 

Lines on the Letter H.— The following liaei 
on *'poor letter H" have been given me<bja 
lady who is not actually a native of the eoaaij n 
question, but of an adjoining one. I do not le- 




member orrer to bwro £eea them before, undas they 
Are perba|» tiao new to many of your reiidoi^, I 
«end tll«tE to **N. & Q." for their amuBement :— 

MtmanHnmet Jrom the Lettrr H to the JiJutlitantt of 

** WberBM by yoa we hare been driTon 
^H^ FrotB bctrth ftod home, from hope and heaven, 
^^h And pLiced by your roost leam'd aocictf 
^^y In exile, uniruisb, and anxiety, 
P Wc boreby otaim full restitution, 
I And beg ycMi 11 mend your elocation." 
^Hf A fuwr /rvm. Uie IfihabiUtnU of Skroptkin. 
^V'Whereai we >e rescued jou« ingrate, 
^^B FfiiUi bell, from horror, and from hate, 
^^BFri>ir> bedgebill, horsepond, and from halter, 
^^Bylnd comc>crat«d you in altar, 
^^^ITc Uiiftk yuur ctaun is an iDtruBion, 
r Aiid will not meud our docution.'* 

I Jonathan BotrcniER. 

I LiRRRi HoifixES.— la the History of Land- 

iQiit pablished by one of ynur correspon- 

1 r, Fisher, there olvufs rather an impor- 

n as to the character of the alle^iince 

* 'onqiieror by the lihcri hominu^ at 

^* tisbury in lOSG. 

i are nmged the names of Sir 
., :-ni Williiim BlackstODe^ Hidlatn, 
; and on the other are those of Mr. 
iie author of the History of Land- 
liich I may add that of Finlitson, in 
>ry of £nglish Load, 
involved lb best conveyed in the 
lira on the one side, and Finltvson on 
tbo othter. ilallam {Etir&pe^ p, 527, Murray) sayn : 
J*V>aia m ree*ived at Salialmry in 10S5 (nV) the fealty 
>blers in England, both those who held in 
iroanU, thus breaking in upon the feudal 
IfeB molt eacentlal uttrihuie, the oxcluaive 
of a vaaial upon his lord/' 

JMiwoa, in a note to Reevers History of Eng- 
^Ltiw (vol. i. p. 54, note b\ WTit/es : — 

lo midlrn or sweeping change in oar inniitaticns 

'pet tenure of Jnad. except oo far aa re- 

t)< Id under military tenure, was left 

;d. . ..^ ...irtcr of the Conqueror, indeed, inj- 

oath »f aliejpanoe upon all Crcemon ; but alle- 

DpliM protection."' 

r. Stttbhs doe« not eeera to attach much im- 

ice to »hf"« pf>tnt, for he does not speak at all 

Ivfl* ' Mr. Fishet chums this au- 

* t of view : and, as the position 

^ "^^Is intimately connected with 

cjiie^v influente of feudpiisra in Enp- 

and nai r^i^en so much {llscussed by consti- 

kifttorians, it i^ important to know what 

ItcliC enn be thrown upon the tranft&ctions 

took pluce at the meeting at Holisbury above 

to. Feudalism was distinctly an effect 

collision of Iloman law with barbaric cuh- 

therefore w^ould be legs predominant in 

[than on the Continent. The wor^Ja of 

to imply that Williara destroyed 

feudalism, while the usual inference is that he 
introduced or rather intensified it, which is quite 
compatible with Finlaaon'a remark as above. 

G. Laurence Gommb, F.R.H.S. 

Special Pratbr,— The following, from tlie 
Exeter WtMtem TimeSy of December 31, 1876, 
ou^ht to be recorded for the benefit of posterity, 
Pynes b a few miles from Exeter : — 

*' The itate of the Revenue, as rerealed ia an antioi' 
nUory artiele on it in the Time*, give* joy to our lligbt 
Hon. Neighbour, the Chancellor uf the Excbequar, and 
will be Uiken rh an answer tt* the Special Prayer i>ut up 
\t\ Pynes Church, to the effect * that DiTino Providence 
would bo pleased to give prosperity to the financial 
nffaireof thJB ^reat Country, in order that an IJluatrioua 
Pariahioner might enjoy the blemings of tbit hallowed 
seaion undUturbcd by apprehensions of an adrercro 
reckoning at the end of the Financial Year/ The Ttm€t 
sayi that the latest reckoniitg of the sereral returns 
■howi that the state of the ReTenue i» more favourable 
than was expected. There is an addition of half a million 
to the total increase for the year, and the Budget eeti- 
niate ia substantially excecdocl, which augurs well for the 
conclujion of the teaf." 

A. E. B. 

Sbvere Winters. — It may interest some of 
your readers to mention that, about the Christmas 
of 1645, the cold was so int^'nse that three men out 
of the forces of Colonels Birch and Morgmn 
perished in the snow, during the niRht march which 
led to the surprise and capture of Hereford (Lords* 
JoumaUf Dec. 22) ; the river Wve being then so 
hard frozen at that plac^* as to admit of the escape 
of seveml persons across it, amonpf whom was the 
Rovalist governor, Col. BarnabuJi Scudiuuore. 

T. W. Webb, 

" Tatter." — Dtirin^ the course of a trial at the 
recent Winter Gaol Delivery at Leeds, a witness 
said that the prisoner described himself to her as 
a " tatter/' and as having been out " tatting.'* On 
Ijeing aaked for an explanation, she described a 
"tatter" as "a man who went about picking up 
old rags and Ruch-like." This curious word, which 
appearsexiwtlyeiiuivalent to the French chiffonnicr^ 
teems worthy a note in " N. & Q/' 

Middle Templar, 

Richard Harvet's Allusions to the Drama. 
—In Richard Harvey's Limht of Ood^ Lond,, 
l5J>fJ, there are several allusions to contemporary 
literature which I have never seen quoted. 

In one of his long-winded sentences this VBty 
affected writer has the following string of com- 
parisons : — 

'' Ab far mundcr as the tale« of mort Arthur and the 
bookei of Moses, aa the iroldon legend of Iron mints and 
the Actes of the Apostles, as the fcenes of Davus and 
the Ptalmes of David, as the writings of Martiii and the 
works of an honest man."— P. 55. 

It is probable, I think, that in Davus Han'ey 
had some particuhur person in view. Remembering 




the nature of the reference made, or reputed to 
have been made, by Greene to Shalupeare, one is 
almost tempted to believe that the dispamging epi- 
thet may have been intended for him. On the 
other hand, the antithetical point of the compa- 
rison seems to require that Marlow should be 
inferred. Or was it Lilly, the old antagonist of 
Gabriel, a supposition which is perhara favoured 
by the introduction of Martin as climax) In 
another place Harvey, who seems to luive inherited 
all the family talent for scolding, calls Martin "a 
bloody massacrcr and cut-throat in jester's apparel." 
Many passages of the book seem to be indirectly 
levelled at Marlow and his school. Writing of 
the irreligious tendency of the ix)pular literature 
and stage, Har^'ey says : — 

''The heathen writers thcmseWes never set any men 
but the vayuRst and raadde8t of all the rest againit their 
Priestes, which men either liTed in reproach or came to 
shame, or for the time were generally reputed reproach- 
full and shamefull men, as may appear in their gigan- 
toraachies and theomachies, commonly made oven of 
poets, in reverence of religion, the causes of greatest 
mischiefs and eorowcs. t > which end and purpose all 
the most ancient tragedies hare been written even every 
one of them, as R. Harceii hath proved in his Logical 
and Enthymematicall Analysis dedicated to the valiant 
and vertumis nolle Lord, the JSarle of JSssex.^'—F. 147. 
The italics are Uarrcy's. 

This refers, I suppose, to his Ephnneron, pub- 
lished in 1 583. Some one who is fortunate enough 
to have access to this very rare book should care- 
fully examine it for any incidental allusions to our 
early drama. 

Nashe calls Harvey a " theologicall gimpanado," 
and his "sheepish discourse" of the I^mbc of 
Oady "a dish of divinitie brcwesse which the dogs 
would not eato" (Apohgie of Pierre FennihsmCy 
Lond., 1593). The same writer tells us that " Kit 
Marloe wjis wont to say that Jlichard Harvey was 
an asse, good for nothing but to preach of the Iron 
A^e."' Most of Harvey's readers will be of the 
same opinion. C. Elliot Browne. 

Christian Names : Albert.— It is a common 
opinion that this name was not used in England 
before the marriage of the Queen with her late 
consort. It is not so, however. In (Dring's) Cata- 
logue of the Lordiy Knighti^, and GenUemen that 
have Compounded for their Entate^y 8vo., 1655, 
p. 51, occurs the name of Albert Hodsham, a recu- 
sant. His fine was 53/. 6«. ^d. Halbert was in 
Scotland in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries 
by no means an uncommon Christian name. 

K. P. D. E. 

The Aspen in Ulster.— It is remarkable how 
few nurserymen in Ireland know the right names 
of the trees and shnibs which they cultivate and 
sell. This is especially the case with the different 
species of poplars. The aspen in particular, though 
far from uncommon, is quite unknown by that 

name, so far as I have observed, in Ulster. At 
last one man puzzled me by speaking of 4 *' qnig- 
genespy," by which I found that he meant "qoiudiig 
aspen.** S. T. P. 

Inscriptions on Clock Faces. — It has occuired 
to me that, following the " Inscriptions on Bells,* 
some on clock faces would be found both coriou 
and interesting to the readers of *' N. Si Q." I 
append, as a beginning, the following that h&T? 
come under my notice : — 

" I servo thee here with all my might ; 
I tell the hour both day and mght. 
If thou wilt example take by me. 
Serve tby God as I serve thee." 
" Here my master bids me stand 
And mark the time Vritli faithful hand. 
What ill hU will is my delight. 
To serve him well by day and night. 
Master, be wise, and learn of me 
To serve thy God as I serve thee." 

G. H. A 

Football. — As this game is now so popular at 
most of our public schools, it may interest maoy 
to know what a thoughtful and intelligent ma 
wrote about it in the reign of Henry VIIL, before 
Stubbes denounced it so vehemently in Queen 
Elizabeth^s time : — 

" Some men woldo say that in the mcdiocrttic, irlu^ 
I have 800 moche praysed in shootynge, why riiold aot 
bouling, claishe pynnes, and koytynge, be ai moche com* 
mended ] Veryly ai for the two laste, be to be Ttterly 
abiected of all noble men, in Ivke wyte foote baUb 
wherein is nothynge but beaatefy fury, and extrew 
violence, whereof procedeth hurte, and coiueqiuiitfy 
rancour and malice do rcmayn with them that I* 
wounded, wherefore it is to be put in perpetual sriciieei' 
—Sir T. Elyofs Guwmor (1537 ed.), f. 98. 

B. R. 

Boston, Lincolnshire. 

Boy Bisiiors.— In the Boole of the HomAM 
of A Igenion Percy, Earl of Nokhumherlandf in 
the year 1512, are the following entries : — 

" Item.— My lord usith and accnatomy th yerely when Ul 
lordship is at home, to yef unto the bame bishop (Aonra 
bishop) of Beverley when he comith to my lord {n Christ- 
mas hally-dayes, when my lord keepeUi his houas it 
Lukynfield. xxs. 

** Item.— .My lord usith and accostomyth to gif Tsnlf. 
when his lordship is at home, to the t»ame bishop of 
York when he comes over to my lord in CbrystTnnuii 
hallydayes, as he is accustomed yerely, zz«." 

J. N. B. 

Tavern Signs.—" Appii Forum," at Gribyn, in 
Cardiganshire ,- " Cow and Scissors," in the ulebe- 
land, Merthyr TydviL T. C. U. 





[We muai rw}aeii Mrrcspondenta denring information 
I family nuUam of ontj privato interest, to affix their 

Eiamcs kikl fti<UratMt to their queries, in order that the 

l&nwen WMj te addrMMd to thom direct,] 

StR Hjopbt Wottok. — The admirable pastoral 
letter^ which the Bishop of WincheBter hi\s just 
addrpjsed to his cltr^yy, recalls to niind " that 
oiefal apotbegm/' as Izaak Walton terms it, whicli 
I >;?- Tf. -,^.- Wotton caujied to be inscribed on hi^ 
. rtpel of Eton College : — 
_ ._ , ^ __ t hMJaa sentcntinD primuB author, 
I i/if|n}twdi pmritus, Kcclefliarum icabies." 

If Ihia xriis applicable to the religious controversies 
K the seventeenth century^ it is scarcely lesa bo to 
|h^'^ r»f the nineteenth. We can but hope that 
i I'sia^ scabies "will not, as it did in the 

r^ ih, e^it up the substance of the Church, 

i&Aiie in the entire dissolution of it. Ixaak 
adniu that the ckim of Sir H. Wofton to 
ip of thia pregnant Bcntence ciinnot 
, "as it wa* known long before his 
inaat hjive been met with by Sir H. 
in the course of his extensive reading* 
m^ges an ingenious and charitable apology 
the mlsULke by my\ng that " his mind (/. c. at 
tloac of his life) wan then so fixed upon that 
i of the communion of saint? which la above, 
t an holy lethargy did surprise hirf memory." 
U alio SQggests that possibly — 
^Ibalgb^ God wa« then plensed to mnke him a 
t, to U\\ the Ohurch miliUmtj and particularly 
)«n of it ia this nation, where the weed* of con- 
grow to be diuly more nameroug, and where 
tmn oozueicnoes that boggle at ccretnoniei, and 
wtaora^^te not to gpeak and act such mhs aa the antient 
^^^'*"'' — WlicTed it to be a am to think ; and where, 
nrnd Hooker SAtth, ' Former timpUcity and 
«ff icplrit ii not now to be found, becaujo zeal 
drowned charitTi and skill meekaeK.' It will be 
to think that tbe<e Mid clianget have proved thia 
ItAaoh to be a useful caution unto U8 of tbia nation, 
lal tM aad effrcLi thereof in Germany hare proved it to 
uniful truth-'* 

ive ventured to give these valuable sentencea 

(Vi r\< Kf-^ring so forcibly upon the present 

religious world ; but my ooject ia 

rti, from some of you p learned corre- 

(t4, the real history of " this prudent and 

ientence, which discovers the dispoHition 

the memory of its author," and to 

who was the author of it, and what is the 

to which it can be traced, 

G. B, B. 

Us Maxwell Lyte'a recently puhliihed Uiiioiy of 
\Cilitye, USO'l^S (Mftctnillan). the epitaph ie thua 

lie jacot htijuB ^ntentiie primus author, 
Biaputandi pruritm lit Eccle&iaruiu fcabiet, 
Nomen aliaa ipiacre/* 
l^.l^teadd* that the above "was the simple inscrip- 

tion which Sir Henry Wotton composed for hid own 

tombstone The Btone has aince been moved, and 

now forms part of one of the steps leading Into the 

IvADT Green viLt,-^Io the college chest there are 
more than a dozen letters, feome merely fragments, 
signed Mary Howartl, addressed between lfl3l)- 
1€42 to Mr. George Cutteford of Walrwdden, 
Devon, her agent. My predecessor, Dr. J. M. 
Neale, in his Ilitfory of i^arJcrilk ('oUcjc, ascribes 
these letters to Lady Grcenvill, the wife of Sir 
Richard Grcenvill, the Roynlist leader, who, ac- 
cording to Clarcndofl, " prevailed with a rich widow 
to marry him, wlu) had be a a lady of extraordinary 
beauty, which she had not yet outlived ; and 
though she had no great dower by her husband, a 
younger brother of the E:u*l of Suffolk, yet she 
inherited a fair fortune of her own, near Plymouth; 
and was besides very rich in a personal estate, and 
was looked upon as the richest match of the West." 
Any^ infommtion respecting this lady will greatly 
oblige ^ The Wardex. 

Sftclcvllle College, East Grinstcad. 

Paoano, or Pagana, of Naples.— Can any of 
your readers, learned in the genealugia of the two 
Sicilicii, inform nic whether there be living de- 
Hcendants of this ancient Neapolitan family? 
Part of its history, down to the middle of the 
seventeenth century, is given by »Signor FOiberto 
Campanile in hia Armi ovtro Itiscffnc dd Xohili 
dd NapoH^ i(j8l. From this work, and from the 
archives of the church of 8. Giovanni di Sala 
sopra Forenza in Basilicata, it appears that the 
founder of this family (to which belonged the 
famous Hugo de P:iganu.s, the founder of the Order 
of the KnightH Templars) was a member of the 
house of PstganuB de S>ancto Karilefo, and was a 
companion of Tancred the Norman, in his Sicilian 
expedition in the eleventh century. By the Adti.^ 
I'oniijicvm Vamtfrnamienttum we learn that the 
family of Pagamia was in existence at St. Carilef 
(the modern i^i. Calais, department of Sarthe, on 
the river Anille) so early as the second century of 
the Christian era, when tbe representative of that 
house gave to St. Turribiua, the second Bishop of 
Mans, Lind whereon t<> fouDd a monastery (see 
also La Didionnairc (Uogrnphi<iHC de 3f. La- 
mardnure^ suh t*orc Saint Calais). But ia the 
Neapolitan bmnch of the famUy atill in existence; 
and, if ao, where are its reprCf^entatives to be 
found? Hamon Laffoley, B.A. 

Major Fiiancis Fierson fell gloriously on 
January 6, 1781, at Jersey, whilst defending the 
island against the enemy, led by Baron de Rulle- 
court, or the French army. PieT5W)n''a father renided 
at the time at York. Can any person inform me 
whether any members of thia fsimily are living ? 

Jcity Sullivan, 

Homeadale, Jersey. 


WiLSFoRD Family of Kkkt.— In the? Britiab 
Museum is to be found '* A Copie of the ViaiUition 
Book of the County of Kent, us taken by John 
PJhiJpot, Rouge Umgon, Marshal and Deputy to 

' I 

Wm. Camden, Clarencieux, Annis 1G19, 162i», and 
1621/' with additioQs and an index by Edwafd 
Hasted, author of The Hiitory of Kent. Heretn 
appears the pedigree of Wilaford, ending ihns : — 

Junei liVlUford, (]ied=Elizaboth, d. «nd co- 
in Ui» father's life- [ heir of — Munwaring, 
time. I of CUesbire. 

Anne Touohet^^Edmard Wil8-=BliMbeth, d, of 
duu of Lord | lord. — Bargnve. 

CustlcbaveQ. I 

Sir James Wilft-^Elizftbeth, d. of 
ford, Knt of 1 Sir Edw. Fifth, 
lledcn. of B<idford,Kiit. 

ThomRfl Wiliford, 

Mary, lit wife, bur.^Hobert Wil«-_... dan. of Sir Robert 
in liochtfiter Ca- ford. | Fnunce« Ent, 2nd 

tbedraL %rife. 

Roljcrt Wllsford, d. in=:»-, 
hie father's lifetime. I 

Particulars reJipectiufi; the family, subsequent to 
the last dates, are requested. C. C. G. 

Old Sciioot Book. — When my father' first 
went to achoolj in the early part of the present 
century, he used a book which he has atill, and he 
is Ycry desirous to know who was the author of it. 
At p* 1 is " A Compendious EnRlish Grammar, 
divided into abort lessons/* ThiR extends to 
p, S8, and forms Part I. 

P. 39, Part II. History of the kinjjfs of England, 
and the most remarkable events of each reign. 
Kuch soTereign from Willi/im the Conqueror to 
Geoi|;e II. has a quatrain,— cj^,, 

" WiUitttn, A spurious branch of Rollo^s mce, 

From Normftn'i duke to England'i kingwc trtioe; 

He conquer'd Saxon U«rold, scii'd the throne. 

Wae brikTD, bub proud, And purtml to hia own," 

— a character of the soverei^, and " Remnrkable 
Eventa." Under George III, there are only the 
style and titles. 

P. 81, Part III. Geography. This includes a 
deecription of each county, with ita rtiriosities. 

P. 148, Part IV. A chrr)no]o|?ical tiible. Ex- 
tends from tlie creation of the world to 1776, 

P. 167, Part V. Tables in arithmetic. 

P. 17B, Part VL An alphabetical list of foreign 
coinfl, with their English value. 

P. 185- Finis. 

The size of the printed part of a page ia six 
inches by three. As the title is lost, and there is 
no colophon, I ah on Id be f(lad to know the place 
and date of publication, aa well us the author's 
name. J, T. F. 

Wiiitcrlonjf Brigg. 

"LiKER V'eritatis." — Can any of your corre- 
spondents ^ive me some idea of the money value 
of a folioj in three volumes, bearincj the above 
name I It i» a collection of two hundred prints 

of pi«tOTe<!» by Claude de Lomiine, executed by 
JJJdiard Earlom, and published in 1777 by John 

Roh«H Wil«ford, im 
infant, 1764. 

BoydcU of London. They have been eatimfited 
at a very high Talue, and I am de-iirous to tmn' 
the real vnlne. They are in fine condition, bound 
in whole calf, Y. S. J»L 

SoHO Square.^ — As the word Soho has b«en of 
difficult etymology, I he^ to refer the readers of 
" N. & Q," to the MS., No. 392, voL xiv., of thd 
Lambeth Palace Library, seen by me to-day 
{Jan, 7), containinjs: a letter, anno lCt)5, from 
Rose Street, St. Hoe'9 Square. Was this a cor- 
TOption of Hugh, Huon, Hoel, Hubert, &c., btt>D{^ 
by the recent French immigrant* after tlierevocit^ 
tionof the Edict of Nantes in 1685 to that vicinit 

S. M. Brac^ 

Thb Okxikr of the Camaldolites.— To" 
book must I refer for a detailed history of 
reli^ous order] It was founded, I believe, in tht 
eleventh century, by St. Ronnialdo. Any inffl 
mation respecting it will greatly oblige. 

F. C V. 

"Satitiiday Night's Club," 1743.— Was 
an actora* society ? Who was interested in it ? 

F, G. S, 

Lord Chancellor Ellssmkrs. — 

"Certain Obftcnmtiona concerning the Office 

Lord Chancellor/' Composed by the Right Honoui 

and Moat Leanied Thoumt Lord EUtumtr^i late 

ChMicflllor of £ngliind. London, 1651. 8to. pp. 1 

Was this little book really written by Lord 
cellor EOesnicre or not ? I have been under 
impreaaion that the Speech touching the Post 3? ^ 
was the only work that he ever published, andi 
believe it is eommonly so stated in the mcmoin 
his life. In the preface to the little book refe 
to above it is stated : *' The copy of this t 
was delivered unto me by John Harding, Ute 
Gmyea In no, Esquire, deceased, and one of 
Readers of that Honourable Society, and by 
affirmed to be composed by the Right Honou 

6» 8L T. Sxv. 2i, T«.) 



And most 1 
of the boo^ 

yihua Lord Ellesniere, Lord 
:/' I shall be gl:id of imy 
inject of the rral authorship 
ri. J. P. Earwaker. 

*«-* -"-'"'•* 

TrrE Vrs or mm Pastoral Staff, — Hm a 
*' iiil*' bishop, or a bishop who has 

r the right to iise ft postowl stJitT? 

?\ i^ that he has not, the pastoral 

h*. ymbc»l of jurisdiction, which juris- 

ditnon hi' n -^ reii^ed. Doea a coadjutor bishop 
in the Roman C'athoUc Church use one / 


** Oinris flALTiTs IK cnonzA est saltus in fro- 
WVTTOTJU CLOAC-fL" — Whence 13 the above? Stubbes, 
in hia Anatomu of Abtue*, cites it as the saying 
of ft "certain godlie doctor." Prynne, in hia 
JliMirio MnstLr^ quotes from Perrin\«j HUtwy of 
similar expression, which he 
:ie, but a very cnreful search 
\i.u'Mi-u jif luuixLs.) has not enabled me to 
corroborate Prmne, or rather Perrin. 

H. H. S, C. 

George BrTi.ER or Ballyragcett, KrunrKxr. 
— Oan Any of your readers gire me any informa- 
tion relative to him 1 — as to when he died, who he 
'•nuBOTTied to, and hi?? descent from the Mount- 
particularly the latter, which I am very 

(UkoOWiog. P* J, COGAN. 

A Portrait. — A friend of mine has a portrait 
p^itited in oils on wood. On the right-hand side 
©f the picture are these words : "Castelkn (or 
CUmbfillaD ?) de Philip 2 et duo Albert d'Au> 
Iricbe et fenime^ Prince et Princessej Ambasaudeur 
«iir Henry 4, Gouverneur de Mnltne, mort le 7 
Ferrier, l«12." On the left-hand side, "Boxtel et 
. , . ** with some other words I cannot make 
preceiling the word *'Boxter' there have 
tome wor^ls which have evidently been out 
oft Wliote is thifl portrait ? 

Arthur Schombero, 



Airtiiliry^ or at lea<;t the register, of this luonaa- 
toy it beliered to be still' in existence, and in 
ftHval^ bonds. Information on thi.s point is de- 
•bwL H. FisHwicK, RS.A- 

Gbrr Hill, Bocbdale* 

ALTHOTA8.— Can nnv one inform me who this 
akbiSEibt wa^ :i .!« his previons career 

Miorr he met wi' fro? There is a slight 

SDcntioo of hi ro in Mr, Mftckay^s Hutory ofPopw 
Isr iMimofur, in connexion with Cagliostro. 

O. B. M. 

(5«J» S. ui. 407 ; iv. 130.) 

AccoTflinff to Petrus (5"» S, iv. 130), (k» 
O'Neills of Frainoe " would be the lineal letritimiftB 
posterity of Hu|zh the Great, the hist O'Neill, 
through Terence, hia son, and could alone preteni 
to the title of Prince, Connt (or Earl) of Tyrone*^ 
whilst those of Spain " would represent the bninrfc 
of Claudeboy ('Clan' Aodh Buidhc'), and the 
proofs of both assertions have been thoroughlj 

Ah to what concernB the O'Neills of Portmgtd T 
shall c:Lrefully abstain from any discussion. No 
document have I seen establlshinjr whether or aot 
they belons^ed to the yoiinger and collateml braack 
of the royal and sovereign house of O'Neill. 

My intention is only to occupy myself with that 
of 8 pain, 

I am as well acquainted as Petrus could preteM. 
to be himself with the documents on which aodi 
pretensions are based. They consist of — 

1. A copy of tlie Rifil Dt*paclw dt. Hidatguia^ 
Blawnfs^ relating the letters of nobility incorporit- 
injT into the ninks of the Spaninh iwhlc&ie <tt 
hufiilfjnia these members of the O'Neill family, 
and duly eertilled by Don Antonio Ru^la y 
Busueta,'then king-At-arms of her Majesty I>ouft 
laabella II. 

2. A fjenealogical document drawn out in 17311 
by Hn^di MacMahon, Archbishop of Arraa^^ 
(Gatholic)» in favour of Phelim or Felix O'N^. 
born in Ulster, 1720, who entered into the SpaniA 
service in 1730, where he died Captain-General of 
Arragon, a jxi^l of elevated military rank ; and 

3. A pane^ric in Spanish of the above-nifia- 
tioned Don Felix, printed ut Madrid, 1796. 

The first of these documents regards exclusifeb' 
John (Shane) O'Neill, third son of Hugh O'NeOt 
Earl of Tyrone, who was held in consider»hfe 
favour at the Court of Spain. Thia aJfirmatioa 
responds to the question put forward by the autbar 
of the article in these terms, " WTio was this John?* 
The epoch at which the letters of ** HididguLi y 
Blasoncs " had been confirmed clearly poinU o«L 
that there could not be question of any other fper- 
aonage, I take the liberty ahio of remindiiiK 
Petrds that all the sons of Hu>ih the Great dad 
not die in Kome. Hugh, the eldest, Rurnaniei 
" the Biiron," did so in l(KH?, and was buried, by 
order of his Holiness Pope Paul V,, in the cbu«dk 
of S. Pietro in Montorio, on the Mount Janin>ila«^ 
as is generally known. 

As to the second document, which tmfiea fto 
pedigree of Don Felix, it is perhaps well to tcmwi' 
her that the illustrious Hu^h MacMahon mi|r^ 
have been an eminent theologian, and, aa his imowT' 
tal printed work, Jus primaiiak Ard-wuvthawM^^ 
proves hmi to be» a canoisAsl ol TCtBM^saNAft 


jAJf. 22, 76. 

ority ; but it by no means follows that this vener- 
able prelate was a akilful henild, or, even wbat 
is more essential, a corrtct genealogist. The 
Archbishop of Anrui^'h effectively mnkes out the 
said Don Felix aa deaccnding from Terence (Tur- 
logh), brother, on both father's and mothers side^ 
of John, the son of Hugh, whom he qualifies as 
**most serene Prince of Ulster, Earl of Tyrone, 
Vi^cfumt Mountjoy, Biuon of Fews, DuncuDnon, 
and Strabanc, Sovereifrn L«:*rd of the two Princi- 
palities of Upper and Lower Clandeboy." 

In the first place, I should be anxious to know 
▼here his Gni^e Arehbiohop JLicMahon could 
have discovered thiit John waa '* Viscount Mount- 
joy, Earnn of Few*, and Sovereign Lord of Upper 
and Lower Clnadeboy." There exists, in this some- 
what whimsical and contradictory profusion of 
titles uiwn the sjune head, an historical and genea- 
logical chaos manifest to the most inex|)enenced 
student of Iri^h hintory, or any odc who could have 
paid the least attention toour national! annal«,orwho 
could have been in the Blijjjhteat degree acquainted 
with the several brauche« forming part of the 
illustrious bouse of O'NeilL And, finally, I shall 
nsk, where did his Gmce find out that Terence 
was brother, by both paternal and raateroril 
descent, of John ? 

Histoiy teaches, and the Aunah of the Fotn- 
MoiUri confirms it, that Hu^'h the Great had only 
four lej^Ttimato i^onis, to wit, Hugh the Baron, 
everywliere desiffnated as "primogenituis," or tJie 
eldest, Henry, John, and Brian. The same annalK* 
inform us that, in the year l{it»0,Turlot|h (Brasikigh) 
and Conn, sons of Hu;:;h, commanded troops in his 
army. Now, at the same time, Brian, the youngest 
of the lawful male issue of the Prince of Tyrone, 
was only two years old, and Hugh, his eldest 
brother, fifteen yeai-s of nge. Wherefore it stands 
to reason that Turlogh, uumamed Brasilaj^h, uud 
Conn, of sufficient age to hiive commands in the 
army, must necessarily have been illegitimate. 
' If it is to Turlojjjh Brasiknrh that the archbishop 
attachea the O'Neills of Sptiin, how am he certify 
that he w^'Ls brother frcjni lx>th fiither'a and 
mother's side, when it was shown that Jolin was 
legitimate and Turlogh illegitimate f How attri- 
bute to Turlonh, a natural son, titles belonging 
solely to the lawful issue of Huj^h ? 

There exists, therefore, in the certificate of his 
Gmce, an evident error. This could easily have 
been avoided did he but attach Don Felix to his 
true origin ; that is to Bay, in giving him for 
ancestor Art (Arthur), second son of Turlogh, son 
of Henr}% This Henry, of the bmnch of Fews, 
was the second husband of the motlior of Hugh 
(Judith Maguire, of the Princes of Fermanagh), 
and widow of Ferdorcha, his father. Hence it 

foOows that Turlogh (Terence) waa only th<» J 
ukrinc brother of Hugh the Great, and de^^if n-U 
not from him, but from his relative, Henry OX' il 
of Fews, 

This opinion is corroborated by the Bipertorii 
Eohdorum Canc^llan^ Ardmachanof^p. 1G4C>, 
by the Annah of the Four MtutirSf p, II 
col. 2, Owen Cnnnelhui. 

A few wonls now upon the O'Neills of Franc 
quoted in the title, but without being otherwi 
mentioned in the body of the article itself. 

This hmnch has very serious grounds to 
itH deiJcent from Hngh, Earl of Tyrone. Tl 
title-deeds, which I have seen, and of whicli 1 
fully attest the importance, have been carefully exa- 
mined, controlled, and certified in 1784 by the 
body of officers (of whom one was a member of ray 
own family) of the regiments of Walsh and of 
Dillon, in the French sen'ice. Their armorial 
bearings are exactly identical with those borne by 
Hugh O'NcOl. Not ho with the Spanish and 
CJandeboy bninchea. 

In conclusion to this note, allow me to add oi 
simple obsen'ation on the subject of Celtic-Irii 
families : What does it i-eally Fjignify whether ' 
descend from Pat rick, Hugh, or John / 

The essential point for each and every one 
them is to establish that all the members are 
scions of the true, recogni/.cd, and tiuthentic st 
and not to be confounded amongst the multitn* 
whether by caprice, accident, choice, or othefwi 
bearing the common name of the ckn. 

This, with respect to the dift'erent branches 
France, Spoin, and Portugal, as also with 
Chich esters, now O'Neill in the female line, cam 
be contcMted. Napol^ox Bonaparte-Wtse. 


" Brakd-skw " AND "Spick and Span- N 
(5*^ S, iv. 24, 72, 255.)— W. M. is indubitaU; 
wrong, and Archbishop Trench right. The coi 
monest cju-e in investigating the matter w 
have shown W. M. that it is not beca 
wholly because, of the ftrchbi shop's boo! 
writers of the present day use brand 
of bran. If hmnd-new were a cormption 
the Scotch hra' new, the very last place where 
should expect to find brand-nevj would be in Ji 
son's ticottish Dictionanj.* Yet there W. M. v 
find it, with two quotations to support it, one 
them from Burns, who speUs it (irent-new, a foi 
which cannot possibly be a corruption of hra\ ai 
which oio.«it ulearly proclaims the connexion 
brand-ntw with to ffum. 

Jamieson, who gives essentially tbe same 
pknation of the term that Dr. Ti'ench docs, 
says, " This is certiiinly the same with Teut, bra 


* The Four Miuieri, tranilated by Ovren ConDclIan, 

* My edition ia the second, and is dfttcd IS40. or foi 
teen years before Br. Tr«nch delivered the lectures < 
which hia boat quoted by W. M. k bfticd« 




member trf^r tr Kaca seen them before^ and aa they 
;in? perhaj. to man}" of your reiwlers, I 

send them '^." for their anmsemcnt :— 

Mtmmt&tmti fnm tht LtUrr Htotke InkabitanU qf 

« WliogreM 6y jvn. w« h»Te been driven 
From bcBfftii tod home, from hope tuid heaven, 
JLnd alifri bf rour most ]ea,m'd aockty 
Jn aaal«, mg^ui^ and anxiety, 
We twtly ebon full restitution, 
ibid Uf fOQ 11 neDd fwtr elocution/' 
J ntwifrfram th€ InAabilanis of Sfiroiuhirt. 
** VbcTMf w« 'v* rescued jm. mgnMf 
fmn hdH, from horror, and from b»be, 
Ptram hcd^bO). bortepond, and ttcm halter. 
And «aiBaecnkted you in altar^ 
1T« Ihtnk joor claim is an intrunoii. 
And will not mend our slocutioo.*' 

Jonathan Bouciiier. 

LfBeni I: -In the History of Land- 

ketdim^, jti " 'i by one of your correspon- 

4tllt]|. ^ ! . there occurs rrtther nn impor- 

tMil di .^ to the character of the allegiunce 

svom tu ib^ Conqueror by the Uberi hominetf at 
tht iB»«aii^ at SaltEsbniy id 1086, 

' ne hand are ranged the names of Sir 

3! i^rht. Sir William BL%ckatone, Hnllamj 

aou X rwiaiAD ; and on the other are those of Mr. 
fitabbft and the author of the History of Land- 
AftUkfif, to which I mny add that of FtaksoD^ in 
BetrBB^s tiistory of Knfjli-ih Law. 

IW point involved ia best conveyed ic the 
«wds Of Hullam on the one side, and Finlsison on 
the oilier, flallam {Europe^ p. 527, Murray) says : 

• WatUm rewred at Salidtury in 10H/> {*ic) tic fealty 
«l aU budliolelera in England, both those who held in 
^ ' * ■ their tenant*, thus Lreakiog in upon the feud&l 
la its most efoentini nttribute, the excluiivo 
of a Ta,S6aI upcu Lie lord." 

FiakkOfl, in a note to Reeve«*a HUtory of Eng- 
Iu4 Lit IP (toJ, [. p. 54, note 6), writes : — 

'■ 5u fudden or BweepiDg change in our inRtitationt 
»a« e^«ct?d, and the tenure of luad, except bo far ub re- 
Jirded tbo»e who held under military tenure, wa>i loft 
viafeetcd. The charter of the Comjueror^ indeed, im- 
pimd »o (k»t|i of allc;iiance upon &11 freemen ; but aJle- 
tlnae isnpllea protection. "* 

Mr, Stubbn does not seem to attach much im- 

prtance to thiji point, for he does not upeitk at all 

|p^t»irplr, though Mr, Fisher ctatm!i this au- 

I'.is point of view ; and, a.? the position 

homin<x la intimately connected with 

f ''be inftiience of feudalism in Eoij- 

i'^'f-n so much discussed by consti- 

"S it ia important t^ know what 

■ thrown upon the transactiotia 

oiv pj I'-e lit the meeting at Salisbury above 

• to. Feudalism was distinctly an effect 

'1 ion of Eonian law with barbaric cua- 

rcfore would be le^s predominant in 

. i;x^o on the Continent, The words of 

to imply that William destroyed 

feudalism, while the ustial inference is that he 
introduced or rather intensified it, which ia quite 
compatible with Finlason's remark as above. 

G. LAtrneitcE Qoione, F.R,H.8. 

Special Prayer.— The following', from the 
Exeter Wettern Timu^ of December 31, 1875, 
oujirbt to be recorded for the benefit of posterity, 
Pynt5« is a few miles from Exeter : — 

" The etate of the ReTenue, aa revealed in an antiei> 
patory artiole on it in the Timetf girea joy io our Right 
Htm. fJeie;hb<mr, the Chancelhiir of the Exchequer, and 
will bo taKoo M an answer to tlie Special Prayer put up 
in Pynos Church, to the effect * that Divine Iprovidence 
wrmfd bo plepsed to give prosperity to the financial 
nffttint af this ereat Conntry, in order that an niuitriout 
Parishioner might enjoy the bleBainga of tbia hallowed 
ioaaon undisturbed by apprehensions of an adverse 
reckoninj^ at the end of the Financial Year.' The Timet 
Bays that the latest rockoninig; of the Heveral retamt 
ihows that Che state of the Revenue is more favonrablo 
than waa ex^>ected. There is an addition of half a million 
to the total increaoe for the year, and the Bud^i^t oeti-' 
mate is aubstaniiftlly exceeded, which augurs well for the 
conclusion of the year." 

A. R. B. 

Severe Winters. — It may interest aomo of 
your rcatlers to mention that, about the Chriatmas 
of 1^45, the cold waa so intense that three men out 
of the forces of Colonek Birch and Morgan 
perifehed in the snow, daring the night march which 
led to the surpriae and capture of Hereford (Lctrd** 
JounujUj Dec. 22) ; the river Wye bein^ then so 
hard frozen at that place jw to admit of the eacape 
of several persons across it, among whom was the 
Royaliat governor, Col, Barnabas Scudamore, 

T. W. Webb, 

" Tatter."— DurincT the course of a trial at the 
recent Winter Gaol Delivery «it Leeds, a witness 
said that the prisoner described himself to her as 
a " tatter/' ana as havin^^ been out '* tatting." On 
being asked for an expUmation, she described a 
" tatter ** as '' a man who went about picking up 
old riigs and such-like.'* This curious worH, which 
ap pears exactly et^uivalent to the French c^iy<?7ini>r, 
seems worthy a note in " N. & Q." 

Middle Templar. 

HicnAHD Hauvkt^s Allusions to the Drama* 
— In Richard Harvey's Ltmhe of irod^ Lond., 
159n, there are severaJ allusions to contemporary 
literature which I have never seen quoted. 

In one of his lonp- winded sentences this very 
affected writer has the following utring of com- 
parisons :■ — 

" A« far naundor aa tlie tales of mort Arthur and the 
bookei of Moees, ai the golden legend of Iron Fftlnt» and 
tbe Actes of the Apoatlei, as the scenes of Davuit and 
the Psalme« of David, a* the writings of Martin and the 
viotkB of an honest man."^P. 55. 

It is probable, I think, tbit in Daviis Hxurey 
had some particular person in view. Remembering 




nearer conformity with the English, The first 
time I notice the alteration to hrann-n€W is in an 
edition, Aberdeen, 179b' ; followed by tbut of Dun- 
dee, 1812, edited by the author's ji^randson, the Rev. 
Alex. Thomson ; and now that by Dr. Longmuir, 
A few years ago. J. 0. 

•HSi? (5» S, iy. 443, 494 ; v. 17.)— If in addition 
to Jelfa Grammnr and Liddell and Scott's Lfcicojij 
which I still hold to be mxfBcient, your correspon- 
dent will look into Suidas, Scapula, Hedrick, and 
especittlly Eustathiiis upon Houier, I fancy he will 
find that he has made no diiicovery. I am appealed 
to to explidn why the passage from Thucydides 
"was 80 wronj;ly translated by the famous Cam- 
bridge Bchohir/' I know not who this "famous 
Cambridge i«cholar" may be»hnt I certainly prefer 
his rendering to that of DuirELMENSia. It »i, to my 
minil» closer to the orifinnal, and le«s paniphraaiic. 
^1/ Tf.ason of the haired is tbc literal aenae of nar* 
€xOos, and surely " from a feeling akin to hate" is 
a more litend translation than "nrojrinj/ the enmity 
they felt against the Lacedit'monians," where^ as I 
reipectfally submit, the word in italics is an inter- 
polation quit« uncalled for. Besides, this render- 
ing leaves the sense obscure, and naturally suggeists 
the question— H'Tw ayowed their fnmity^ the 
Ithomite^ or the Athenians ? Whereas the Gr reek 
seems nnmiatakable — koI mVois WO}}yaiot 
Se^cutc^oi KUT i\$oi ty^Tji To AaKiSaifxoviun'j i'i 
NanraK'Toi' KaTt^Kiaav, which I think should be 
rendered, " And oy reason of their ancient grad|;e 
acainst the Lacedaemonians, the Athenians took 
them under their protection, and placed them in 
the city of Nuup.ictus/* But I must ask your 
oorrespondent to look attain at Lvddell and IScott, 
and candidly to my whether he does not think 
that his definition, or doctrine, is really covered by 
what these lexicographers soy of tJ5>j in its force of 
*'the immediate past." They fjive as examples— 
vi'^ TJ^q T€\€0€t^ 'tis already nij^ht — //, 7, 282, 
293 ; y&t/ yap rptroy icrrU' SETo<5—0d, 2, 69 ; 
and his oxvn quotation from the PhihcMts—€To% 
T«6 >]h} ^ixarov. A reperusul of Jelfs article 
confirms me in my opinion that he pntctically says 
all that Dltjtelmensis contends fur^ with nuich in 
addition that he does not touch n\>Qn. 

Edmund Tetv, M.A. 

IlAnAiftja Mactrus (5*^ S. iv. 268, 315, 389, 
434.)— As the passages from Deuterouomy cited 
for compuriflon are at variance with the Vulgate 
MS., and as the initial and final lines of the two 
prolojfues (no kindly copied by your correspondent 
K. K.) do not^ contmry to ajl cxj>ectution, assist 
in discovering: the date of the version miopted 
by the Iranscriber, the humble biographer of 
Babanus Maunis tinds himself at sea and out of 
ito depth. 

The ** Venerabilis Abbas Hildivinus *' named in 

the second prologue is HUduin, Abbot of 8L 
Denys, St. Germain des Prls, and BL M^dord. ut 
Soissons, the iirch-chaplain of the king's palace, and 
CJ. ojficio the supreme head of the clergy in the 
kingdom of France (a.d. 814). HaTittg aided and 
abetted the rebellion of Lotbaire and Pepin, ths 
sons of Louis le Debonnaire, Hildnin was depri?fd 
in S20 of these preferments in the Chnrch, aad 
banished to Courbey, in Saxony. Aft-er a brief 
interval, he was restored to favour and all hi* 
ecclesiastical titles and dignities, thrmii 
iluential intercession of his former pupil, 
tingui.shed prelate and ornament of the ULurdi, 
Hincmar, the Archbishop of Eheims. 

In his famous work, entitled Areopa^iiMt 
Hilduin wrote, at the command of the king, filtf 
history of St, Dionyaius, the founder of llli 
monastery, and reputed first Archbishop of Paiii^ 
whom heidentitied with Dionysius the Areopogiti 
mentioned in Acta xvii. 34. This work, a far 
of fables and idle tales, obtained credit even to 
seventeenth centur\', when its follies were ejL\ 
by the writinjrs of Sismond, the cfinfesaor 
Louis XIII. ; of Launoi, the learned critic ; awl 
by other intelligent theologians of the period^ 
Hildutn was born towards the close of the 
century, and died a<d. 642. 

The question of the birthplace and natioi 
of Ha,banus Maurus may be set at rest by qnot 
his own words : — 

" Audi E&banum ipsuin," writ^i Mabillon, **in Al 
person^ libros de Cruce Sacro olTtfrentem pupie^ et 
60 loquentem. 
" Ipse quidem Frmncua* gonere ofit^ atque incoU ailTiO 

BochoDise, hie inJMus dtacere verba Dei, 
Fuldie quippej, quod oiipidum in BttcbrtniA sitmn 
mon»chufl erat, nan iumen to l^i nutiu, ttd *« 
Moguntidf ut ip»* canit in, Epitapkio xwy. — 1 
tif^pulturam suam designaverftt M^^ntict in 
Sancti Alt»mi. 
*' Urhe qui^m hAc ff^nUuMtum, ac mcro fonta reaatas; 

In Pulda post Iuk dosma lacrunn didici *' 
(Mtgne, Patrvloffice CUTtUM Complttutt torn. 107, p. 
ttuctorc Hnbilloaio). 

It luay be tus well to mention that Ak 
revision gradually became corrupted, and in It 
corrections were made by Lanfranc of Cant 
hury ; by Cardinal Nicolaus in 1150 ; and by 
Cistercian Abbot Stephanas about the same dal 
Moreover, in the thirteenth century (in Fi 
especially), ^'C^orrectoria" were drawn up, 
ducing into the text a Tariety of readings 
sevenu mistakes, of which Roger Bacon jni 
complains, and quotes aglariu':; error in Mark vi 
3S, where "confessus" bad been substitnted 
"confusus." William Platt. 

115, Piccadilly. 

Poets the Masters of Lawquaok (4"» S. 
110 ; 5"> S. iv. 431, 491 ; v. 14, 37, 52.)— Asj 

* Frnncoi Orientallt. 




iii;jstioii more carefully, I see its 

1 must confess that, when I 

:.ocii£iR, I did not understand 

n is only an additional instance of 

itdd, although I think that I view 

This expluini* my involuntary 



consider t 
L'Atreuiie > 

first rtnili* 
its d- 
the 1 
the K 
pdiiw i^i I. 

My thesi« w, however, still the same — that man 
is <aij the fonniil cause of variations in language : 
tbeidW he cannot, theoretically speaking, be 
s the tnie cause of a cbmj^e, any more 
a can be said to cause the deviation of 
''^'' himself. For, on a careful con- 
<»bvious that the tree's principle of 
licient eatise of the divergence, the 
1 lie formal cause of it, 
rcfoTt*, for the objective^ indepen- 
dent existence of language, on which man leavea 
hta impress without altering the materials with 
'^^ supplied. And it ia just because no 

i can effect a change, that language may 

be s^d to Lave a apontaneous growth, |;overned 
by fi.xed laws juat as much as any other of nature's 
pTOcesa^ii. How else would Makhochetr explain 
the tict that Grimm's law is so generally tnie ? 

rurding the question siibjectively, masses 

^1 ^ sway language^ but only so far as the 

^ of any change may be spoken of as 

sun \' 

the origin of it. And yet they can only do this 
when they act in accordance with the laws of lan- 
guage. For let Makhoctieir attempt to reintro- 
duce an obsolete inflection, let him gather round 
him others for the same pnrpoiie, and still failure 
must enaue. On the other hjind, an MAKRocuKiu 
remarks, great men havii changed the meaning of 
words, or even obtained the rejection of an inflec- 
tion, but only when they are followed by many 
others, and after a long lapse of time. 

To recapitulate, in order to secure any change 
whatsoever in language, it must — 1. Be sanctioned 
by a large tiuniber of competent authorities ; 2. 
Be in accordance with the laws of language. 

If wo bring Lord Byron*« attempt before this 
tribunal, I think that it faiLi in the first requirement 
entirely, although it does not violate the second. 

Dr. Gatty alludes to the misuse of will and 
shall, and I certainl}' think that this ia a case in 
hand. Fixiui Sluikfipeare downwards these words 
have received continual maltreatment, and yet I 
venture to say that the beautiful distinction in 
meaning between the two ia clearer than ever. 

Lord BjTon was not much given to the use of 
the file, and I should think that he made a slip 
when he used hy intransitively, W, H. 

Registrum Sacroi 
1674-75 (5"^ S. L 182) :— 


f KAiuMofMilioiw. 




of Con- 



AMlstiDg PnUtea. 

28 Jolutiuiia Ueijkamp. 
21 Con»U«DJ«peQdaaI. 




April 28 



TJtreclit, in 
cbafch of 8. 
in church of 

K. J, Binkel. Bp. 
of Haarlem, 22. 

J, Heijkarap, Abp. 
of Utrecht, 23. 

K, J. Rinkd. Bp. of 
Haarlfttn, 2!i ; J. H. 
Rcinkeiw, Bp, In Oer- 
muny (for the »'01d 
Catholica "). 

" of my former list of the Dutch 
•^ ("!, I now send the above two 8tic- 

oocduig Lon -4. c rations, and may note that Her- 
auius Hcijkamp, late Bishop of Deventer, died 
Oetobf 71, .aged 70, at Rotterdam, where j 

Iw ]!»' 'pal seat ; idso that his sQCoesiior 

xa thai >. .-. i.i^hop Dief>enda,al, had been elected I 
Abp. of FtT^H-ht by the MetropoliUin Chapter 
Ott^«l».5i, 1J»73, but then declined the episcopate, 
CQllUDuing oi pastor of his i>arish at the Heliler. 
Thm Iktitr pneLata now also succeeds Arch- 
bUiop Heijkoiiip as pastor of Schiedam, as hia 
4 i oowp do«fl Bon^ conUim any members of the Jan- 
'rt rommunioo, thus continuing the anomal- 
amsgemeot of performing the duties of a 
"^^ pritvt in another diocese, as has been the 
1 #v#f ffince the revi%'al of the old see of 
J^wwi; he year 1757, owing to political 

-u nmdered it liaedfuL 

The bishopric of Deventer was originally founded 
May 12, 1559, its first occupant having been Fr. 
Johannes Mabeuse, 0. S. Fr., who was nominated 
in 1501, resigned in 1570, and died May 10, 
1577, after which the succession Wfui as foDowa :— 
Fr. Gillis de Monte, O. S. Fr., consecrated Oct. 29, 
1570, reaigned May 2C, 1577, when Bernard us 
Heyrinck sat there from 1577 tiU 1579, and on his 
resignation Mgr. de Monte woa again elected, 
Aug. 6, 1587— after a vacancy of ten years, owing" 
to the wars between the Dutch and Sjxiniards— but 
he was finally removed from the see Sept. 2, 1588. 
The next two bishops, Albertus van Thill (elected 
Sept 2, 1588) and Gijsbertus Coeverinx (elected 
in November, 1589), were not consecmted, nor in 
possession ; and the episcopal see of Deventer 
ceased to exist in 1590, on the establishment of 
Calvinism in Holland (cf BaJtavixi. 8Qcta, ^^\V, '^- 
F. Heiisaeii, Lejden, Vi\% *^ ^^* ^^ "a\A<i«vi- 



IS" S. V. Jut. 22, 7«. 




Episcopatih DaraiiTunsU, Cologne, 1G70). Since 
tlif* restoration of the bishopric by the JimKenist 
Church there have been six occupants of the titular 
dignity, including the lost consecrated ; and the 
p;»storsil staff presented to the Dew bishop, during 
the ceremony of hia conwcnition, on Nov. 17, 
ijossessed a epecial interest as having belotitfed to 
Mgr. de Monte, T*'ho waa of Deventer 
thiec centuries ago (as notifd above), and who may 
be con.^idercd the hiat regularly consecrated 
pojiseasor of the dignity. The chief point of in- 
terest in the consecration of Bp, Diependaal is 
that it is the first instance of three bishops having 
taken part in the consecration of a prelate of the 
Jansenist succession iince the schism of 1723, 
when the Church of Holland sepamted from the 
Koman obedience (cf. Guardian, Kov. 24, 1875). 

A. S. A. 

St. JoHKPn (rj*"^ S. iv. 15n,)— The statement to 
which EccLESiASTicus refers h in Epiphtiniiis^ 
HfTr, 78j cap. vii,, ami is to the effect that Jacob, 
father of St. Joseph, was called Pan th era, and 
that St, Joseph himself, and hia brother Cleopaa, 
bore the Parae title. But St, John Damascene 
(Ik Fide OrihotJorjj^ iv. 15} gives the name Pan- 
tbera to a (\ uite differen t man. Ho makes Pantheni 
to be a brother of Mclrht (St, Luke iii, 24), and 
rrrandfather to Joacbim, the B. V. M.'s father. 
EccLKSiASTrcus will lind both theae statements 
f]Uoted bv Dr Mill ((hi FanUieutic PrincipliAj 
ii. \m, 1S9). C. F. S. Warrex, M.A. 


Morja^an Kavanapjb, in hia Origin of Lauffvafff 
and Mtjflu!^ atntes *' that the Jew.q, in their Talmud, 
5ay thiit the name of Je^us was Bar-Panther." Ho 
also stales that the learned antitpiary, Dr. Stukeley, 
*' inforuia us thiit the ftimily name of Chriat'a foater- 
fttthcr WAS Panther," Morgan Kavanngh argues 
from I his the truth of hh etyniolog}', Viz., that 
*' Bur- Panther ia equal to Car-TPanther, hence car- 
penter." See Origin of Langutigc and Mtffh^, 
vol il pp. 186, 187, 181>. Wm. Heank. 

Watch Seals (5"* S. iv. 450.)— I am afraid 
that devices on watch seals are but broken reeds 
on which to lean as authorities for henddic pre- 
tensions, and that " a dove volant, with an olive 
brancli in its mouth," or any other bird, e.<*peci:illy 
if not berddiaiUy treated, can in itself have no 
value in thia way, though doubtless it may suggest 
interciitinj! inquiry. J. T. F. 

Hatfield Hall, DuVliam. 

The devices upon Mr. Bkale's seala are amongst 
the nio^st common of the time when wax had not 
been superseded by the use of adhesive envelopes. 
Probability points, therefore, to their being neither 
heraldic nor lOMonic, but merely seals which have 
^eeit pttivhased re&dy engraved. I am informed 

that »t was very general to buy seak with tlgurw 
already upon them, and, as any collector can tell, 
cornucopiiP, doves volant, forget-me-nots, and such 
like abound. There is» however^ one wny of det«r^| 
mininjS whether the devices are or are not heraldic,,! 
which is by the ab&ence or presence of the wreath^ 
which accompaniea a crest. Of course there an\ 
plenty of instances where the engraver has omitt 
the wreath, but the above is a pretty safe rule la| 
go by. James Yuuno, Jun. 


Archdeacons' Seals (5^^ S. iv. 327, 352, 378,] 
301 J v. 16.)— In answer to Lord Alwtxe ComptoK|| 
I can yfcate that Bishop Bateraan of Korwich impaled 
Iiis own anus with those of his see at a very mncli 
earlier date than that at which he supi>oses the 
custom be^in. This bishop founded Trinity Hdl,] 
Cambrid|;e, and I believe that documents of ' 
fifteenth century exist there with the imj 

The Palace, Buitenzorg, Java. 

SnAKSPEARE's Seal Bixg (5*^ S. iv. 224, 
— I am obliged to admit that I have been 
misled with regard to what is c;dled Sbakiii 
sea! rin|T Isy the woodcut in F:;irholt's Ktimf 
an Arch(vologistf p. 135. Supiwaing it to rej 
sent the ring itself, as it appears to do, and not 
impression from it, I wa.s at a hm to iindei 
how a rinitjj on whicli letters were cut as if 1 
were to bo read on the ring and not on the 
pression, could be a true aignct-ring. Now that! 
liod Fairholt^s cut represents the impression onlyij 
my initial difficulty is removed. It is, therefore, 
not imponnbh that W. S. may mean WUlin"'^ 
Shakspeare. To moke it probable requires mc 
evidence than we possess at present, 

W. Aldis Wright. 

Trtnily College, Ciunbridge. 

'*WiLiB BEGUILE" {&^ S. iv. 144.)— Ifl add 
tion to the proof I formerly gave of this bebg^l 
proverbial phrase, used by Dr. John Harvey ixoal 
Njiah, and therefore not referring to the later pl*fj 
of Wily Jkguikd (from which Shakspeare wit*] 
once supposed to have pilfered), I now ;idd 
quotation from R. Bernard's Terence in Englit 
p. Ill, ed. 1G07, of which the first edition was 
1698 :— 

" FntMratur ipsftU*i, he deceiaes Wiraaelfe, he pkjet 
%pUie ht§v.iie hiniflelfe,*' 

The phrase arose doubtless as "Master Wi 
(the wily man) beguile himself." 


" Mind your Ps and Qs " (l"^ S. iii. iv. x 
passim). In addition to the several suggestion* 
the origin of the above phrase, I have just " 
another one sent me, by a lady who 
resident for many years in France', as follows 

5»a.V. Ja)|.2?,7«.3 



** Tnokch yw for so long the Iceal latif^uAge, entirely 
or in liftrt, tTint tLecftUtioii luight haTebeen niven in stftt- 
i I cause, ' Mind you are ready with tbo 

/ ,*? powryMo*' i» lisked'— be ready with 

} i .jdo ' for the ' *vliy?' I think the 

I cd but a3 regards conTerE4i.iioii, 

random^ we must rotnember our 
Fft uui (.^A. * T*ke core what jou taj, mind your Fa 

D. C. H 

Strawbsert Leaves on Ducal Coronets 
^'i"* 8. ii. 129.) — Whenever there is any BAtis- 
fiictory autboritj for helievjng that the trefoil 
tfonU oroaments of dueal coronets ore Mraicberry 
leave*, it mar he worth while to ask why they 
were Et?Jected for that purpoKe. At present I 
know of none. They have been popularly con- 
sidered :i8 fitriiW berry leaves ever since the sLx- 
teeoth century, but their first appearance is 

rbttbly on the crown of Henr>' IV., on his effigy 
Ciinterbury Cathedrnb The renlly interesting 
fj'v •' •• ■«! why and on whose authority they were 
• I JtlratiUrrtt leave^j. Can a botanist 

p..>.. ,[ no other leaf which nii«;bt eqtialfy 
ncsemhle the tlorat ornament so dcsij^^nated by the 
henUda, eircrt 15CKj— certainly not earlier, and it 
Biay be ffome fifty years kt«r ? Fred. Rule. 

DiL Hosier's **Bibliotiikca Uniyeiisalib 
AMtBlCANA^ (5*^ S. iv. 288.)— This library pos- 
■ a aii a a neat and exact transcript, in ei^bt qmirto 
Tohimei, of this unpublished work. Dr. Hoinery 
cr ■ ' "TS. is, or ought to Ije, in the libnirj' of 
I' iir Thomas Phillips. Another unpub- 

1 k of the same character is — 

'ca Americana : Catalogo do los autorea que 

^ de la America en direrentcs idionoiai y no- 

t vida J patria, afioa en niue ti v tenon y obiaa 

I on ; compuo^ta por el Mariscal de Cauipo 

1 de Alcodo, Gobcrnadgr de la Phiza do Aa 

< dc iwrr 

iiiiujs a closely written folio of 1300 pages. 

' h well known as the author of a Diccion- 

'^^nji^ro- Hiitorico de las Indian Occideiitaies 

(English by G. A. Thompson, Lond., 

. ._ . . WlLLARD FlSKE* 

labrvrj of the Cornell UniTeraity, Ithucji, U.S. 

Pi! 1 1 


MO k 

.ADELrniA Authors (5**^ S. iv. 467,)— Mr. 

Ke*?«, if I miittake not, is now alive. He 

K written a Life o/Edtcin Forrest, pub- 

I'etersen & Co., and a volume on ^7(x*fc- 

iii'i the Biik, published by Claxton, Rem- 

JHatfelfin^er, Through either of these 

I suppose Mr, Eees could be communiokted 

He would probably be glad to give Mb. 

:iOj Information in his possession. 

J. Braider Matthews, 
Cliibv y.Y. 

CttiumcAB Mummers (5** S, iv, 5i>6.)— If 
' K will nifer lo b^^ S. iii. 37ftftHriMii(i that 

Taie^ and TTnditions of Tetkhy (whicii he quotes at 
second hand from the Booh of Dai/^) in ftot an 
** old work/' and that an account of the Christmaj* 
phiy at Tenby hai? already been ^jiven by nie in 
*'K. & i^." May I again miery whether this 
ancient sport, alive in 1857, still survive I 

MiD&Lfi Templar. 

WiuTTON Family (5*^ S. iv. 60, 457.)— In 
Potter's Hint, of Cfmriwood Forest^ 1842, p, 93, 
it some information regarding Geoffry Whatton. 

A, H. B. 

" MiLToxis EnsTOLA ad Pollionem " (O'** S. 
iv. 511.)- Dr. William King, of Ch. Ch. Oxford, 
whose works were published in three vols,, 1774, 
was born in London, 16U3, aijd died in 1712. Dr. 
William Kinrft Princiml of St, Mary Hali, Oxford, 
author of MiltonU Episiula nd Pollionem y was 
born at Stepney, 16S5,and died in 17tJ3. Lowndes 
confuses the two authors, so also does a corresi>on- 
dent of " N. & Q.," 5'^ S. iii. 275. I have no copy 
of Watt's BiUiotheca by me, but I think the works 
of the two authors are there properly sepamtcd. 
W. H. Allxutt. 


" TuE Present State of London " (5"> S, v. 
9,) — This is probably an edition of a book by 
Robert Burton, who, under that nauke, and us 
liichard Burton and Nathaniel Crouch, issued so 
many amusing booki?, of the Thintp vot iten&fally 
Knotnt stamp. The first edition is entered in 
the Bodleian Catalogue us Hi^iorical Itnnarqnes 
and Observations of the Ancient and Pruent »Stnte 
of London and Wtidminjiterf 8vo., Lond., 1081. 
Another edition now before me, " Printed for A. 
Betterworth and Charles Hitch, 173f>/* is called 
A Nciv Vicu\ and Observations on the An^iciit 
tijid Modern Stuie of London and ^i'l^Mmin^tcTf 
itc. It contains the woodcuts described by Mr. 
Patterson. C. W. Sutton, 

^loas GroTC Terrace, Manchester. 

[See&'^S.iv, 106.1 

Irish Pronunciation of Esolisii Words {o^ 
S, v. 25.) — I have long held the same opinion as 
Mr, Cooak puts forward on this point. ** The 
uneducated Irish," especially those who conversed 
in their native lanrruagje, remained uninfluenced 
by the capricious chumies of fashion, which are 
constantly altering:; the Kni'libh tongue. This baa 
led me to agree with Dr. Johnf«on's opinion, quoted 
by Walker, aa to the more frequent quiescence of 
the letter k in former time*?. Some words (eg, 
hospital, humble) used never, till btely, to be 
sounded with the aspirate h. I can hardly believe 
that all the words beginning with h in the au- 
thorized version of the Bible, which have the 
article an prefixed, were aspirdted when_lhe tiaBS* 
lation was ma<' 



[j's. v.jAii.a;T«, 


L09D0ir Brtoob (5* S, t, 0.)— The tithes of 
the houses on old London Bridge were paid to the 
Bector of St. Mikgnua'. J. Charles Cox. 

KusftSJf ATic (5«>» S. ir. 449.)— The 1797 hroad- 
rini penniei and twopenny pieces of George III. 
are well-known and coDimoa coins. Tbey are of 
exactly iiniilar design, and weigh 1 oz. and 2 oz. 
respectively. The twopence was in common circu- 
lation, but occara only with the date of 1797. It 
waJi made current by proclamation of July 26, 
1797, and the word " soao " (in minute letters on 
the rocks on the reverse) shows thj^t the coin was 
struck at Boul ton's celebrated Soho Mint, near 
Birrainghara, The initial '* k" on the hunt is that 
of Kughler, a German die-sinker, in Boulton's 
employ. The twopenny pieces, nkhoiigh not often 
met with, were actimlly In ctrcnUilton until about 
18C1-62, when all the old copper coins were called 
in, Henry W. Hbsfbet. 

" FrRsnwG '' (S*^ S. ir. 428.)— "After firmiji^ 
ap to lo^d." "Firming" in this sense is not an 
Americaniflm. J, Brander Matthews. 

LotM Club, N.Y. 


— I direct your correspondent to 77te Con/fiMion 
of n, Branflon, Brit. Mm. LiK, K 561/14 ; An 
Exact and Impart (a! Arcompt, &c., E. 1047/3 j 
The Lant Will and Testament of R. Braiuloti, &c., 
E. rjfU/12 : A Diahijue, &c.,*66D, f. 14/51; A 
LdtcT Hint out of Hoilaml, &c., E. 121/42 ; The 
HantjmaTC* Jo »/,*&€:, E. 1842 2 ; also, E. 1046/10, 
p. 12 ; nnd in the Catalogue of Satirical Prints in 
the British Museum, Nos. 760, 761, 762. There 
is a curious reference to this Brandon, t.<*. Richard^ 
the son of Gregory, the still more famous "aonl- 
sender," m they called him, in Amity's Eeguier of 
the Oarttr, 1724, ii. 399, a case no't without its 
fellow in a recently related tale of the ambition of 
one of iha family of Sanson, those hereditary 
princes of the axe. F. G. Stephens. 


" St. iRvrNE \ OR, tbb Rosicuuciak " (5*^ S. v, 
2D), i^ a juvenile production of Shelley's, which 
critics are a^eed upon regarding as rubbiah, but 
which has been preserved by what Mr. Swinburne 
<»lLs the "evil fideh'ty " of scjim? of the pwet's early 
frienda. *Sf. Irvyne was reprinte<l, with Shelley's 
name, by Hazlitt in vol, iii. of Tkt Noveliat^ and 
it hiLs been more lately included in a very incorrect 
edition of some of 81ielley*8 works iiuued by the 
late John Camden Hotten, H. B, F. 

« Nes? " (5^* S. 17. 2G5 ; v. 56.1— It ta astound- 
ing to learn that this wor»l is Irish, and signiEea 
d«ith ! There are in Yorkshire at legist a dozen 
promontories (and inland villages on promontories) 
called Kess, and the Na/e of Norway, and the 

Naze in Essex ; Dungenesa, Sheenie5», &c. 
means " nose " (Dunnose), W. G, 

Pre-Reeormation Church Plate (5** S. t. 
48.)— Mr. Ind will find some old church plat^ ai 
Stonyhurst, at Ush.iw, and, I think, in tne poir 
session of Cardinal Miinning. There ought to ba 
Bome at Durham Cathedral. If he writes to 
presidents of the above-named colleges they 
give him every infornmtion. W. G. ToDD, 

" Fxtrmett" (ft"* S. iv. 46, 95, 130, 238, 296. 
"Fromety" or "fTumety" (fnimentum) is, or 
lately was, eaten on the village feast-day 
Chideock (or Chidiock) in Dorsetshire, It 
made of boiled wheat, milk, and raisins, 

F. A. WS.IX 

Government Hoa»e, Hobut Town, Tumanta. 

Hamoaxe (5** S. iv. 349, 396.)— The 1 
ing is quoted from the curious work of the 
trie G*oj^ Dyer of Exeter, bookseller and 
quarian, A EcstoTaiion af the Aneit^nl Modi$ 
B^stotcing jV(itn« . . . Exeter, 1805, p, 75 :- 

*' Ilamoie^ the harbor of this rirer, is tmnsUtod 
*Oozy Hobitatjoo.' As we proceed we iiuprov*.— 1 
Plym was the ' rolling water. The water ht?r© la c 
dered the ' Ooty Habitution ! ' But the lUrivation 
thii} ^ao hurbor ta the same as the Oute in Yorl 
and comes from ad changed to ojt, aus, and oia wateKn 
IIa»if which has been uhown to mean border, hat 
derived from A mm on ; and Tillagefl having been hxdVti 
hamn, and the word faund in their naiues^ it hath 
rendered villapfe, town, &c. llamos^ and the 
however, mean the border water. The first xu 
perhaps adopted by Athelitan. when thia river w 
the boundary between the ComiBb and the Saxom 
it ieems to bo a Saxon tranalation of Ttimer,^' 

Tamer he had already shown to be derived 
ianif Gaelic for stream, and ar, great, or tir, 



Title of " Right Honourable " (5** S^ 
328, 496 ; iv. 274.)— This title (as I was once 
formed by one well instnicted in the matter) 
always applied to a ** lord " ; anj' one by right 
courtesy addressed as " lord " (this or that) shon 
be addressed, if a layman, as " Right Honourab' 
if a bishop " Right Reverend." Members of 
Privy Council are all " Right Honourables," 
cause, whether peers or civilians, the title ia ** " 
of H.M. Privy Council." C. 

Rev, Dr. George Walker {5^^ S. ii. 247 ; 
56, 193 I iv. 275.)— Looking over the thi 
volume of the present series, I find I have, 
some means, omitted hitherto noticing M 
Pioott's query relative to Mrs- 5Iaxwell of Fa 
land. My authority for the statements at 
of that volume was the memorial of the deed 
conveyance to Mr. Conyngliam, which I fc 
long ago in the othce for the Registry of 




^,, in DiiliUn, The deed was registered in the 
year 1" ' ok 61, p. 24-1. 

To \ub sUtemenLs there may be one of 

ttro exyinuniioiisiif either tkit Sir Bernard Burke 
vnA milled by the account received froui the Max- 
well family, «r else that the faxher of the fuioous 
QOTemor of Derry w:us himself 9, doctor of 
^vinitT. I should s&y the Litter is very probably 
the rood one. T. S. M. 

HsvsLT Clarfk, LL,1>. (5«» S, ill 307, 414, 
517 : i?. 318 ^ v. 36.)— Many years ago I knew a 
Miss Clftrke, who was the daughter of Dr, Henry 
Clarke ; she used to visit one of my friends. I 
veil remember her talking about the wonderful 
at4ainmeDt>> of her father ; amongst other things 
she said he knew no lesR than twenty langiiages, 
Bud often allowed himself only two hours' sleep 
«0kch night for months together. Dr. Clarke must 
lUkTe died very poor, for she hsid to keep a day- 
school for her maintenance. I have some recollec- 
t mentioning a brother or brothers. I 

L I were in the army, and lived in Canada, 

MLis CUrke died some time aince unmarried. 

Tlija 1 idy hnd a *«ter^ who married a Mr. Jo- 
nath t Dissenting minister, who kept a 

Ijo.-ir for boys in a town in the West 

1' ' • ; bat eventually he became 

t I y at Harf^urheys, near Man- 

cia -u r, aii'i i (»«iieve died there. Mrs. Wood 
ba<i a son and daughter ; the son'H name was 
• ' ' *' \f they are living^, they might be able to 
information respecting their maternal 

f -ifitera, like many other chUdren of 
! ri, h;id not had the privilege of receiving 

I an ordinary education. What Dr. 
iiy«ique may have been 1 do not remem- 
V c heard his daiij^hters say, but both 
- were remarkiibly short, jiiat something 
I. ;i Iw^rf*. H. E. Wilkinson. 

BuAStsti Hakds (5«* S. iv. 487 ; v. 15.)— I 
ksow not how it nuiv have been in France, but in 
Germany > m certainly prevailed before 

ibe lime i i by Ellcee. In Schiller'-s 

Jlauber and KaintU vnd Licbt^ for instance, thia 
■uodc of greeting is used by the dramatu ptnoius^ 
not aa anylhixig new, but as a fjiuuiliar custom. 

F. McP. 

Giiai:t» (5»* 8. iv. 405, 45C.)— I became ac- 
{^uaiiiled with this word at Whitby, some years 
Mnor, fuid, doubting whether it could be cor- 
ncUy dencT ibed as " a common name for a narrow 
ftieti," 1 applied to Mr. RobinBon, of Whitby— by 
tAi the hat anthority for the meaning of words 
tiled r ice — and he informs me that it is 

** A Cu r *np, opening at the aide of a long 

V Bsaifi J^U«^&, and going down to the sea or har- 

bour beach.'* The word is only applied to those 

rBsoges which lead to the harbour ; and, as Cir as 
can discover, it is used in no other place in 
England. But in India it is applied in a &i»uhtr 
manner to the approachea to the Ganges. 

As Whitby has long been famed for its sciunen 
(of whom Captain Cook was one), I at first thought ' 
that the word might have been introduced from 
India ; and possibly that may have been the case. 
But aa the word has long been used at Whitby, I 
doubted whether that was so ; and as Aiabi 
words are used in India, and ** there arc man] 
Arabic words in EngliBh'^ {Quart, .Ret*., Oct., 1&7J 
p. 4.'i2), I searched Golius's Arab. Xcr., and thei 
I found an Anibic word, the English pronunciation 
of which may be "ghaut" or "gaut," and the 
meaning of which may be a low or hollow placet 
into which a person may descend out of sight ; ana*i 
as every one descending a ^haut to a harbour 
would go down out of the sight of those above, it 
struck me that this might cause the n.ame to be 
given to such places. Since this occurred to me, I 
have discovered that the word is prop?rly appli- 
cable to the passes which lead from the summita 
of the mountains in India down to the plains 
beneath. This application of the word is quite 
consistent with the supposition that it may be 
derived from the Arabic word. 

GoU, with its various spellings of goyit, goiU^ &&, 
is weJl known ; it means a ditch, sluice, gutter, op , 
channel, made for the purpos«j of conveying water 1 
silong it, and for no other purpose (Jacob, L, IK; 
Kelham, JVorni. D. ; Ash, McL, &c.). W. (J. cpiite 
correctly gives one instmce of its application to 
** the channel which takes the water from the mdl- 
wheel back to the main stream." It is commonly 
found among the general words in conveyances of j 
water-mills, in company with words of similar 
meaning ; such as m-ce or leat^ " a trench for con* 
veying water to or from a mill" (Bailey, Diet), 
InDngdale's Imbunhing^ p. 243, cited by Halli- 
well, ** two new gotes for drayning the waters out 
of South Holand and the fens " are mentioned. 
The clear distinction between ijoU and ghaut is, 
that got€ is always used to denote some i^assage for 
water, and never a passage for persons ; and fjhant 
is always used to denote a p;wsage for jiersons, and 
never a passage for water. It c4innot, therefore, be 
that gkaut is another form of goU. C. 8. G. 

Compare "GowtB,"a term applied at Saltfleetby 
in Lincolnshire to a set of trap^doors, raiseii by, 
chains on rollers, for letting the water out of the* 
higher level in a large drain into a lower ; the 
name of a church in Lincoln, near the river — "* St. 
Peter's at Gowts " ; and ** St. Cuthbert'a Gut," a 
nanow rocky channel in Fame Iskad. 

J. T. F. 

Hatfield Ball. Durham. 

The Aryan or Sanskrit verb gd, to go, is written 


[5** S, V. Ja». 22, '7$, 

without an A, and ghdtf a nioimtaiu or river pxsiSj 
with one ; therefore if gh^iuty us us<?d in Whitby, 
is a mis-spelling' of the Saxon r/caf, it was probahly 
carried from Europe iiit<> India suhspquent to the 
Crusades but prior to the MMhabhiimtsi, towards 
the end of the fifteenth and beginninfr of the six- 
teenth oenturies. E. R. VV. Ellis. 
StarcroBf, near Exeter. 

About half a mile from Cockermouth, and con- 
tiguous to Papeastle, is sltuatfjd a large mill, koown 
na the Goat Mill. This'waa, no doubt, the baro- 
ninl mill when Piparcfa Castle, of which the present 
name of tlio villa<;e is a corruptioEj existed on the 
siteof the ancient Roman fortress. Pipards *.*iistle 
was dbniivntlcd and aV>;mdoned in favour of Cocker- 
mouth Castle not later than the fourteenth century, 
This gives considerable antiquity to the mill, but 
other circumstances lead nie to believe that it in ay 
be contemporary with tlie Roman occupation. 
Beckman proves the pre-media;val origin of water 
corn-mdls, ami I should be glad to learn whether 
any exint which may, with some degree of proba- 
bility, be ascribed to the Koraan em. 

Wm. jACKsoy. 

Possibly EnonAcUM may not havo frot at the 
origin of the word tjhmd in his quotation from 
Young. The woni ghat means, in Hindi'u^tilni, a 
piece of water enclosed and built round. Thu.^ we 
should say in India '' Dhobee-Ghaut," literally 
th€ WiUihcrman's washing- place. I have seen a 
place thua named, and the word I think has a 
wider acceptation. In Youngs quotation I see 
the word tjote is used in the sense of an enclosure 
of, or defence againat, water ; possibly, therefore, 
the root may be the .^ame. Or the natna may have 
been got accidentally hiter, and per^'erted in its 
application to a utreet. Sonic time agO;^ in Devon- 
smre, I heard a fiirmcr use the word " catamanm " 
contemptuously of something very rickety and 
unsafe, and found out afterwards that he hacl used 
the name of the most rickety and perilous of boata, 
A raft used by the natives in which to take out fruit 
to ships at Bombay. Hopklkss, 

Louise Latf.\u (r»"> S. iv. 513 ; v. 55,)— I can 
add one more item to the bibliography of '* the 
rayatic of Bois dHaine " which appeared at the 
last reference, namelr, the opening article, entitled 
*' La Maladie des Myitiquca— Louise Late^u/' of 
No. 41 (10 Avril), 2* Serie, 4' Annee, of the R(vne 
i^ckniifiqiitf published by G. Baillitre. The ar- 
ticle extends over eleTen pages, etich of two 
columns, of the above periodical, 

J. C. Galtoit, F.L,S. 

The late Joseph Clark of Hfll (5**" S. iv, 
44D, 495.) — This querj* nppears to have been 
answered under a mistake aa to the individual in 
question. I haw collected the following parti> 

culars!, which are authentic, Jlr. Joseph C^lurk 
(not Jarae.^) was one of the orijjinal proprietors of 
the Hull Theatre, He was born about a century 
ajjo. He enjoyed the friendship and acquainf m ■ 
of the celebrated Tate Wilkinj«on, the tlder 
Mathew.-*, and rar^ny other notabilities of the time. 
His collection of playbills and theatrical memo-^ 
randa wag the most extensive and curious in tl 
North of EngLind. Ainonfrst them u-as said to 
the correspondence between Tate Wilkinson 
his actor.s, and other matters connected with 
engiigement, Mr, Joseph Cbrk also prepai 
extensive catalogue of the Hull Subsci 
Librory, a work of great labour. He 
mathematical editor of the Jhdl Hocking) 
f^reat Libornl newspiiper in ita day, but 
years defuuct. He died about twenty years 
upwards of eighty years of age. He wtis a gentle 
of independent mean.-i and a bachelor. He 
his collection of playbiJls and memoranda to 
late Mr. Robert Bowf?er, trea.<surer of the 
Hull Theatre, after whoi^e deafh, in 1873, 
were eoM by auction in Hull. The greater port 
the playbills was purchivsedj I believe, 
gentleman of Burton, Lincolnshire, and I 
that some of them hnve stnc4? come into the 
«ion of Mr. Gnnnell Leonard Street, Hull, 
a great collector of playbills and local '. 
The Mr. Clark of Anlaby is a totally dil 
person. As thi^* gentleman happens to 
present librarian of the Hull Subscription Lil 
your correspondent has been led into the it 
that suggested his reply. 

Dkrmid O'Meaba (5^ S. iv. 407 ; v. 35. 
There is a short account of Deniiitius Meara, i 
do >Ieani» in AVood's Alhnt. Oronim. He 
born at Ormond* in Ireland, stutlied for si] 
years in the universities of Oxford, P;iri&, 
Cambridge, and subsequently " practised phpic 
Ireland, and gained great repute for his ha( 
success therein." He was ** esteemed a good 
during his conversation among the Oxoniima." 
The poems on the Earl of Ormonde were print«4j 
at I/mdou in ICID, under the title of On)ifli»i«*| 
sire illuitrm. herois ac domini^ D. Tl^mtr Dutlff] 
Onnoni(v ci iMsoritv comiiisj &c. Lowndes 
that there are copies of them in the Briti 
Museum and in the Bodleian. He also 
several medical treatise.?, one of which » entit 
Ik Morhu Hf^cditariu^ was printed at Dublin 
16in. His son Edmund Meara was uUo educati 
at Oxforti, and practised for some years as a pi 
sicjan at Bristol. His medical writings w< 
published at London in 1C65, and at Arasterdi 
in 166G, and include a reprint of his falhf 
treatise. Edward Sollt. 




50TB3 ON BOOKS. &o. 
Ra^^fffku dt Ceffvakalt Chronk^n Anfflicanum; De 
F. j<ugnntio^ Trmx Sancttr Libelous; TftomoJi A^- 
.f'l'ttj d* Morti ft SfpwHurtt Hinrici fUais Anglia 
Junimiii &tfta Fultonit Pifti Wnrini; kxctrpta tr 
OfM Jm^^mrud^tmt QtTKLfii Tiiaburientis, Kx Coiliei- 
bui MMkoivriptii odidit Josephus StevensoQ. (Loiig- 


Tots title-Mge ihowa the 7anetj to be found In tina 
lutDt c>f Bnicilfh chrobiclca iind memoriali published 
gofentta^nt ftutbority. Perhaps the moat interei^tini;; 
j.ii!* nre tSu-^ concerning tb 6 death tmd burial (with 
■s) of Prince Henry. There is alw a 
it p. i: •'jicn. Anselmus ArchitpU- 

c- L L...«-iliura cam omnibut Ant^llae pptflcopia ; 

ct t 1.! - 'il>b*tci tarn Frandgenos quaui Aoghj«, quern 

iii}i tr • — liibuerimt^degrtn^Iimt ; cuhctipqueprobibuit 
jbjt«nia diutiui uxorei baberi.'' 

' fF.A'nri of Ahtrdeenshire. Edited by Alexander 
. Tolt, (Aberdeen, Lewis 8raith ; Lon- 
irghj Blackwood & Sons.) 
.. i.iiSUXihei for the excellence of many of 

- of the Scottish comitiei.and Mr. Smith has 
I having placed a new history of Aberd(?eii* 

- the foremoflt in merit and' interest among 
08, The T'»lamc't or parta brittle with et»- 
li must have cost much labour; but inter- 
riccl and »ociaJ details are not WHntin/. 

nc* form part of the cbmnicles of Great 

I I doim to be perused «vnd studied not mcp-ly 

... I 1 r ^^encrally. Mr. itlmith statea that in point of 

! A. I ' trlt-cn-lrre corner fourth, namely, after Ar- 

r ' I- • rth ubirei; but in point of popu- 

' foilowiog Lanarkshire and Mid- 

Ij ' V ^'^ Edinburgh. An excellent m*p 

T, f'ntci the progress of the reader a3 he 

r ,> uiie buok. 

TV </9*trUrlv Il^inp^ No, '2S\, Januarj. (Murray.) 
T' r Oin'^f Itrtif begins the year full of life, vigour, anJ 
The first article, *' Hatfield Hoase,'* deals 
;oil» and the pttst ; the concluding article, 
t «^hipping." treats of a burning quefltion of 
>t liuic Between thcM two, Tariuus paper* 
' rn l}Tpnno cbarBcter*— Swift, Wirdaw^irth 
and the French critic, Sainte 
li^rs than protiti by close cxamina- 
Bubjccia are ably di-cue^ed under 
<i Peace of Europe." '* Parliament 
oys," and "Modern Method^ in 
I al Astronomy " ; and " The Nor- 
ily" takes the reader from the 
)iour to one which was productive 
luid excitement agej ago. In a note, 
'. article, there i« this reference to Shak- 
'■'''' ': the poet bequeathed 
I not the only one— of 
This may help to 
r humiliation betrayed 
an actor and tragedian, 
^ ..i „... li '>' -^'■■•"'r>.f«i bin diTv- 
1 the Jooli a the hour- 

I .yshows. i»ii 1 indiscrinu- 

iiit: 'ou= t."-i apt to coiifguu'i tlicm.'* 

-Y ^filfitl',^tnn, Lord* of CUnnont and of 
/. ' diiltton'Fomiltf. By A, t. 

M%. >' ' " ■• ■■■■'■'■ taiteand juditment, t1>« in- 

tcMftiog Mory of Uae two Earls of Middleton. The first 

was the celeVi rated aoldier who fonght agninst Charles 
and for Chjirles TL, and who was more drunk than ac 
durinfT that timc^and tbroughoitt the period he hmuii 
the affairs of Scotland for tbo latter king. The iec( 
cArl was the faithful servant of James IL and liis queen^ 
alike in their prosperity and their adverse days. The 
atory of both carls i« narrated with hanpy brevity; the 
reader is interested in e? ery detail, and he closet a plfeiu 
sant book with a grateful regret. 

Amokg books received are a well- compiled and welK] 
annotated Cato/opu^ ofikt Library and J^uunm of \ 
Clcchiialeis' Company of London, by Mr. Overalls- 
facetious volume by John W. Jarvj*, Tfnj Gtf/fjfte, 
Millie Phnsif Giyptte, a chapter of Jottiiigd from Strai 
ford-on-Avon and elsewhere {J. Rii«8ell Smith)* whic' 
will amnsingly fill a spare hour, — Wui/g and Strat/s^ \ 
Captain Hugh Kennedy (Morgan), mfiy be recommended 
to chess-players as well as to the general ruuder,— T/u! 
J)wtUer$ tti. Otir Gardeus: their Lives and U'orh, by 
Sara Wood fOroombridge & Sons), is an elegitnt little 
volume on birds, infects, kc, very attractive to young 
natttralists,— and, not too late for the reason, Chrittm^tt 
Chiina and If€« Ymr Rhymn (Pickering), which is 
original, and sometimes agreeably perplexing. 

AurnoRS ako Quota tiohs Wastkp {C>^^ S. v. Ifli.) — 
** Iltso, Jupiter, and snuiTthe moon." The story goes — 
on what authority I know not— that Ibis was'taid by 
Nat Lee, the author of Ahxniider On: Orent and other 
ranting tragedies, when he wos confined in Bedlam, nnd 
Wrts trying to write in hi^ cell by moonlii^ht. A cloud 
darkened the moon, and he cried out, *' Rise," &c> ; but 
the diirkness increaMd, and he exclaimed, " Ye envious 
goda ! he has snuff'd it out/' S, T. P. 

'' ^'EAIt, so TEHY KKAR TO OoD," Itc, it attributed to 
Citpt, Catesby Paget, a well-known, uncompromising 
Cbrigtian. It was written iti or about the yearl8S5 by 
birn. J. F. E. 


A BaisToi, ASH GwucfisTifRFmiir ARcn^iotoflicAL 
Society is at last about to be estubliiUied. The orijsrina- 
tors truly remark that " Glouceatersbire, thou^jh wunting 
neither in nrchreologists nor in the materials of archae* 
ology, hae long been wanting in archteological organixa^ 
tioiL Nature itaolf, indet-d, may be said to have prepared 
her both by structure and by po^^ition for the theatre of 
those historic energies and events of which a rich anti- 
qaity is the vtstigc. Occupying the lower courses of the 
larg' ht river system and river valley in Great Britain, 
she has alviaya commanded^ whether for war or com- 
merce, the ports and maritim<* passes of the west. 
Occupying, too, the considerable heights that furtify the 
opposite sides of this river valley, she commands what is 
perhaps at once both nhysically and hi»toiical!y tlj« chief 
border land of the island— a border laud wbicb^ having 
thfl WcNh mountain fastnesses on the one side, and the 
Midland hills on the other, has fomird a natural battle 
ground for all the competing races jwad most of the con- 
teuding parties in the development of our country." 

TnE LATK Mn. Swiftk.— For the honour of my prr^fcs- 
fiion and of my Inn of Court, I may add to tho information 
re.spectin;; >ir. fc^wifte fumiahed by I. L* S. nnd by tlie 
Dublin Wardtr^ that ho wa» called to the Bur ni the 
Middle Temple in iS15 (having prcvious'ly been called to 
the Irifth Bar). See an obituary notice in the Law 
Timts for Jan, 15, IS'G* Middle TEaiiiaJU 


fi&tuti to €oTTfipomtim, 

Ok a]] communicAliona should b« irrUtea the n&me vrnl 
•ddroBS of th« sender, not neceas&rily for publicatian* bal 
M % guanuitee of good faith. 

S P. — Confusjoo of two tenni. befcween CaloUn and 
Carahin. Cabotin means a atroUirig player. Il^nnr de 
Kock, in hii Memoira dun CaLoUM, did for th« life of 
■Dch a humble French ptaycr what S. W. Rjley did 
•ome sixty year* ago, in his litneraitt, to illu«trat<3 the 
We of an Engliih dtroller. Cara^»=in«diciLl jtudsQt, 
ocean in Alfred do MuaswsVt pretty ballad, Mimi Pinttm: 
" Ellc a IfB yeux et lea matng pr«fiMj 
Lcs Caiabins, tnattn ei ftoir. 
Uaent Its ro.anchc» de leurs Teitea, 
Landirerette f 
A ion comptoir. 
Quoiqoe eani maltr»iter peraonne, 
Mimi lour fait nuieux la Icron 
QuM U Sorbonwe, 
II nc faut paa uu'oa la ch)QV>Qae 
La robe de Miml Piosoti." 
We observe th»t in the current number of the Quariirty 
<p. 182> Caraii a, quoted from l?ainte Beure, is tranrialed 
** nawbonea." Boiate y;'\Ycs among the nieauinga of Vara- 
hin •* ^lOiro en chirur^io (,A'</- famit,)." 

K. 8.— To Hcywood, 8liakitp«»rfl, Cervantes, Donnej 
Beri>ert, Burton, who uso the terra •" com parijons nre 
odioua/' or "offensiTe,*' or (in Dogberry'a phrase) 
"odorous," you may add Congre^e, whose Cuptain Bluffe 
{Old Baekehr, Act ii. ic. *J) saya, *' Hannibal jkm a vpry 

£retty follow ; but, Sir Juscpb, comparisons are odiou»- 
iaituibal wits a rery pretty fellow in those days*, it mu-t 
be (panted ; but, ala« ! air, were he alive now. he would 
be nothing— not bini; in tlie earth ! " This aample is not 
given in tho book of quotations to which you refer. 

Vf, M. M. will find, in Dante's Inftmo, canto t. 121 :— 
" NtaBun macgior dolore 
Cho ricordarsi deltenipo felice 
Nellft miteria." 
Wo further refer him to Caraphcll'a PUamris of Ilopt 
(part ii. 4;>) for eomcthing like a parallel in aetttinient, 
if ocit in cxprewion :— 

" While memory watchea o'er the ead reriew 
Of joya that faded like the morning dew." 
Well-read correapondent« can doubtleaa furniflh him 
Krith other parallel*. 

C, M. A.— Tho PrinccTO Maria Charlotte Sobieskn 
(grand-daughter of Sobicaki, King of Poland, and sister 
to the wife of the " Old Pretender") married two brothcrfl, 
■ona of the Duke de Bouillon. Uer first huBbancl was 
tbe duke'a eldest son, the Prince de Turenne, who died a 
veek after the marriage, 17:!3, oged twenty-four years 
In tbe following year tho lady, baring obtained a dis- 
pmaation from Rome, at great co»t. married the younger 
brother, the Prince de Bouillon, who waa only eighteen 
yean of age. 

CLAiiRr.— Perhapi tho author could, and more pro- 
bably he could not, tell what be mcana in the verses he 
lias written. On application to him, he might deign to 
explain the mbliuic unintclHglbility. 

(L 0. n., referring t*> " Herjildlc*' (6'^ 8, v. 54), wishes 
to •ubatiluto " Sir WofUr Blount " instead of " Sir John 
Blount." The latter was tho father of 8ir Walter. 

Palmer'.s ♦' PKnttBTHATioM OF Yarkoutu." — The pub- 
lisher is Mr George Nail. 182, King Street, Market 
Place, Great Yarmouth. 

H«nrooi> : AraEir^rB (oa/e, p. 45.)— Mr. P. J. P. 
OAKttLLDir refers to a communication by himself in 
"N.&QV'!?"*8. 1311. 

BRic-A-BRAC.-See " K k Q ." 4*^ S. K- 228. 
Matthxw Ooch.— See ante, p. 8. 
Eriutux. — P. 41, coL ii.» "crowns of sca-birde white" 
ahould be ** crowns of sea-buds white." 


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lullanaQd fiennau Ma*lcr«. • f'w produtftioaa Of tli« 
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Fcrvoiih F' ri liTiii nnd tuflijh. the whole a4apltd fVT th« 
^rn-'i- - nd moii advaDtafetmaty 

lot]' < oADolaaatu and DnUr. 

titn< . .\dTantatw of : 

LtULim. Ivcitorine, «nd G«atn1 Arr&n«ereent of Artlitio: 
Tliiii Eata<iUiahni<?ut Will bo fouuU to p«uvta toperior adTaot 
fkilful and tfhctc<nt work- 

). It. rKommvnda hm mode of Olsaninir wad RMtnrina t*lflti 
particularly AilaptikliLi* f^r tbe R«iLoratu>a of An WorrLs frj 
f«,r!jr ('tTinan and ItAlmn ptriod. 

I'K-tur<r4 and I )rawtfiRii Framed after the m^.sT t>*iiutlful mod* 
I talUu. Frcbcli, and iCii4{Uah Carved ^v . ; to The Art 

Lector Fmrae* and (illdlDg iuiied to tb* hmuL 

CaUlocuM Arranffvd and CoUcetioiu i'at« Dt 

Coin ralwiionit moat ^ffKloallr and iiu>dcf.ii;^,> i^.--.^^>i. 

>lr. Ilrmntu can <>nicruki tbe FarabaM of i'Mtuna In 
Flrillfli Artiefa.matty infcrMtinir AToiiciortliftMiaot ' ' 
w>th the Larav CwlleeUuD Q«w on Vt«w at ss. Onat 

anrbobUr. IMiOlM. firon I 
jadfraaat aad tztiB^a Oaat 

rwt ItMalll 



005TB XT 8, -N» 109. 

XMai WmgWiU Wonh um.I hr FrentTj Wrlt«n. 

I'll the 

HfCL ^Tbf 

ti^UviMtj .,, ■■u-nto 

HlMt JK-JtaM^ *S— The iSchootUoy to the Foro— Brldf- m'» 
'— £e»rlizii; the HiiotM t^eod— Swifts 

vaa BvlniMjT*' — '^Comlnir through the 
; af l>a,wvm of Scdbei^jb— H Pront, S7— 
"PvedloUoa of the Crime*n \V*r— " Cora- 
ill|)|«tl« to the (rdALlai)ji"^I'rt4:hit-pirh, 
— " Con«miDg 8ii»k<w in IccUnd, * &c, 
of PriDCi*"'— •' WcAther-hoka/' HH — 
'SereQ iJotliejr Hermoni " — "The Ancketit 
'--Pile FaihUj of Bray, li«rk»— Pwtorfti BUff nt 
M— ''flw Cunt or Klrk*tAU Abbey, ' Ac. -"C#nnon to 
|^t,''4c-~KT«iitAiiUs BecetUy— The Court of Ulgh (Jom- 

Pim :- ^T. S»— Pliilolot:lc*l - MLltf.n'i FoTMtrr. 

|-^ilt*- liioD, 02— Alftjor Fn&uli E'tlrsou — 

i/^bel fjUhedTal—*' Nod ett vile corpUJi," A-c, 
BobleikAr— "Old Klof Cole — Handel'i 
iyioii : "TU* Frincctt " -^ "^ As ookna aa 
►"MtUl Tuhuco Hpea-Tbe Tnide ©f TsnalAg— 
•*«! Lijii'lou riiurchca, M — "The 2>iorth«rn Sliguliie'' — 
tm»i tti Xrm*—' A Tott^tUme for Gold/'&o.— A Follower 
ain»fti, &6-"TiMi P««a Eat"— "Iriplc*" or 
MKte Wom m Me&b—" Acker"— U«welyn ap 
-^ Di»-«ijikin — ** AttorDey," 96 — B«laUoDiblp — 
ilhillliif— Lord ManiOeld— "There irae ui ape," 
— The CttftTterhouM : Boatot* — UlpsVwi ; 
•7— rrc-Befomuikon Church f"J*t©— Ivy: Ivvy: 
c— B«U -Fkogi In Eofluid—Medftlllc, \ti. 

IIK&S, AND 31I8:JlN<i IN tlTTBli'a Z^/C^ 

{Condniud fnm, p. 24,) 
Ttie Englbh niewiinjg of (ap),—**En le 
lC m« TvtemonU nouvert* ^e houe, m 

wng-a<!t,et5 ctiCTeui ou iirA:"»rdre, ; * ; paiont 

nooimmitro/' — Eui;. !^ue, JJ port., 

ii. t£17. l*ftrii, A. Lii«roix, V«rLa>ckuvea el 

French word cap* means a kind of hooded 

' Prcntz la car qtii court Bur 1c tram«ajf"— 
in, ,Vrw- }'f>rA et in Soctfte Atkiricainc; /Icvut 
^f.rndeJl, V Dec. 1S74, €TB. 
^j^/vr'.— ** Lee di'«a«treu9es Boitei de U guerre 
ii: uit rmt mint' le fud et I'ont livrc eu |jroie 
"—I J,, \hut.*',^H. 
I 3 6e tai'aient,. .tee eveque* 
,, sauf (lourlftnt oeiui do Win- 
ifft OQ nifttidement contre lea 
#, Oxford, iMlu]."— Alb. He* 
:^jr« j^L.; Jitvut dfj Jbivx Montkh 
— "J* dontie mon eatier Ji«sentinaent i 
dtt lurd MiV/'i«<jti>e d'Augleterre, qui dit 
i(i »urtiit du •: tre retrnu pendant le« q^uatro 
leequeld j'attii'ndftui Invii dea otlicien 
<li Ku69cl1. quoted bj A. Lftugeljt licvvt du 
» 6 Anil, lsT5, Ulti. 
' la* hghlaPidfrt Not divii^i cd tribm ott 

clftTU lous del cLefe on chUfiaim^ et cliAqiie clan se lub' 
divise en soucbea <:galoi]ieQt loua doi chitf taint," — Skene, 
qonted hj E. de Laveleje, La Lois de$ Brthon* ; Rev. da 
Devx MontUt, 15 Avril, \m% 792. 

Chrutmaf. — *' Lo Christrana est, ct stirtonfc ctalt, ponr 
LondreK, comme le ciimaval pour Veniw, utj t«nips de 
mucamdeSr de rejouiisance^et de fmirie." — Th.GMutier, 
Let Beitu-r Artt en Europtf ^oL L ii. 15. Paria, Miicliel 
htty, 1857. 

Cferffyman. — " Lft oil Iob eltrgymtit ont ^cbouc, lea 
maltre^et lea maltrevaea d'ccole permit tTDpuiaaaiita."— 
Odysae-Barrot. Ilutoire de la LUtirature AntfluiMt Cnn- 
teinftftraim, Tiii. 382. Pnrii, Charpentier, 1S74. — " Un 
grnve dcrfji/Tnan venait d'offfir k un raalade K-a con- 
Bolatiofi-i de lit rolij^ion."— U Boucher, CV*. Diettut H 
Mon demter Bioorapkt; R*v. da Deux Mondes, 1' Mara, 
1875, 100. 

Ciovd-t-iftg.—*^ Aux enrirona d« rdqtmt«ixr le aoloil 
puiiio dart« la roer dea quantitOfl dean oonoid^rmbles qui 
forment cette zone naafjceac^e quo !•<« Aitglua appelleut 
c/ouc/nn/y."— J. Clav<5, Elude de Alfteoraioffieforattcre/ 
Rev. des Deux Mondtt, V Jmn, 1675, 633. 

Club.-—** Po(ic«fneu en untforme ariu6a du loard dnb 
do boi?, lo ca«M-t43te redouto."— L, Simonin, La Enfant 
de* Rues ri iVeMi-Yort / Riv. da Dtux Monda, V Atril, 
l&7f., p. 72. 

Littro baa the word only with the meanisg of 
society, association. 

CofX- (corraptod spelling of eook; the cw)lr of » ahip), 
— " Aprcji la comvdie le rrpaa eut lieu, glgaiitetqoe 
agape, prodii^ieuE fettin de G&rgantua, coloM«ilefl nocee 
do Ganinclie, produit combing du cbef do latnbiiaaitde et 
du cocic du Cbarletnaji^e," — Th. Gautier^ CoA4tantittopUf 
xatx. 3fiJ*. I'aria, Michal Ltry. 1857- 

C'o<;i^r.—** Cockers du Suffolk. Fdnnt/ et Ftora^ 1* 
prix, ^ M. neatb. Exposition de 1863."— Dr. J. C. 
Cbenu, Le* Trms RigneM de la Naturi, 18G4, p. 53,- 
t'am, L. HachetteetC". 

Cfictnev,—** Lf* fameux Pichvick Pnpira, aTsntuoes 
dun cockney mtjtropolitain."— Odyaae^Uarrot, iv. 339- — 
'* Lci nonibroux Anglaia qui partat;ent lea auxi^tSa d« 
air Henrr RawrmiQn,, oraignent paa comme lei 
coctnevt de Londrea que la Rutsie mette la isain aitr les 
lt\dei."—Rev. da Devx Mmuta, V Aout, 1875, p. 079. 

CortUttl. — " Voici maintenant les buvettcs, Ice hars 
sftcntniontelfl, oil ha /?rr^ji ct les juleps detoutf caKgoHe, 
lc8 rori'tiiiU, le« tauffrirs, lei whiert ct leapuncbado com- 
position varieo Bont incefsameut Terncs jmrd'infatig&bles 
6obttn*oii« a desbnvettra toujoura altt-rea."— 1». Simoain, 
Revue da Diux Afonda, V Janvier, 1875, p. 72. 

Criinnoge.—'^'LtB eranitcga ou habitationn lacuatrea 
de rirlande."— E. Gonbcrt, in Dr. Chenu^ La TtQH 
R'fftitf de (a yalure^ 1875, p, 73. 

CrotTA. — " I/Obeervatoire de Paris poaak^de dopnl»1855 
un disque do tlint et uu diflque de crown, dont lefi dlnicn- 
aions eont suffiwktitcs pour faire un objuctif do 75 centU 
metres (pnls do 30 poucea) do diaractre." — R. Hadat), Let 
Of)$ermtinrex dt h Grande - Br eta gne; RtwM du Deux 
Monda, 15 Scptenibre, 1675j, p. 45S. 

DaiittHien.—" L'bjpothi.-40 darwintenne du tnns^ 
fonuiame et de la paneen^ao." — J. Soury, Rev. du Deux 
Mitudis, 15 Janv., Db75, 437. 

Darvinute.—'* C't*i la loi d« la rature. et de la 
' i6Ioctir>n/ dtmnt lea darnlniBtea.*' — Em. de LaTclejOj, 
itei'wc def Dtvx Mondei, 15 Juillet, 1875, p. 4t!4. 

/hnomination. — "11 cii eft du rmhit [in Ru.^ia] 
comiiie du protoBtantiime, toutes oea sectea, toutea cea 
dfnomthntif'njt^ ielon I'heureuae expression dcs AntrUif, 
nc constituent point toujonra dea confeaiuna. dea cultea 
dlff^.^rt;n*.'"— Anat, Lcroy-B«auliett, L'fiiwpwt dt* Ttati 



[6" e. V. Jan. 2d, 'T€. 

tt ha Hytst€», ii. 2; JUvut dii Deux MoncUi, V Mid, 

This meaning of the word is not given hj 

DebatffT. — "Voilittout ce qas le dtlater dei ancienB 
jfjurs [Lord Ruasell] trouvnit i dire."— A. Liiugel, Btv. 
tits Dtux Mondei. 15 Avril, Ibju, p, 1»21. 

OiM'latlir. — " Lea partie tiui s'y entrechoqucnt [dana 
TEglbe a»tionaIe d'AngloterreJ a'b&bituent it. ridt^« do In 
dcaetablir." — J. Mil^andj, Rev. dei Dtvx JUondes, 15 Sep* 
lenibre, 1874, p. 37&. 

DeutahliuetHenL—"Lo sacerdotal isme s'hitbifcue a 
I'idt-e du dcteiattuseiiiftU, qui le dKlivremit de Toppo^i- 
tion del UtitudJn&Lrefl €t des CTaiig61iiiues/'^Id. ibid. 

Detedivt. — ^'Koui icaiatAmes et fintnieB ptr obtenir 
ileax dftectiva, dcui de ces hommcs nux fotmee 
HtlilctLques, dc vraLa tjiiee d« Aoraf-.^ttart/f, comnie In 
police inimicipalo de New-York tn atanf '— L. Sinjouin, 
Ittv. det Deux Mondts, V ATril. 1875, p. 74. 

//(Vfcioi-y,— "S'armant den donnees dc ion dirtctm^t 
cc guide de corntnerce que toute eitu attiericaine pubhe 
chaqiie snuive &rec uu boid T]gilaiit,.„CbiL-Hgo prttend 
nToii' aujourd'liui £k)t),WO hnbitams."— L. Siuioriin, Ittv. 
da Dtux Monday V Avril, 1675, p. Wk 

DUteiit, — '* 1! faut dcscendre dana I'etage mferieur du 
dittent RuBse." — Anat. Lcroy-Beaulieu, ix, iii , litv. du 
fJevx Mondfs, V Mai, 1875, p. 79*— " L'6vang^Hame 
purltain baisse, du mojtia comuio pubsance ix rint^rieur 
f'e r^gliie 6tAbl]e; TDaia 11 se refait dans le dinent, 11 bo 
rctrempedans l«i r«t»*a&."— A. Rdrille, VAngUcanitmt 
Lihfral ; B^, da Deux Monda, 15 Aoik, 1876, p. 891. 

Diiunter^-^'* On bataillait depute lonuteinpa entre 
nnglie&iia et dixttnttrtt pusiistes et 6Tangeli(|aeB.*'^Id. 
rUd. 884. 

Dislrat. — " Dona rancicn droit anglaii, nous IrouTona 
a procedure du dutms,,.L9 plus 6tendu dea traii^a dea 
Jiithoit Laics, le Stnchm Mor, ee rappopte presque 
fntieremtut aui formalitea du duirem." — Em. do 
LaTcleye, Retue dti Diux Mondes, li> Avril, 1S75^ 
p. 790. 

Dri/L — " Le lerram ulaciaire qui couvre rEcoaso, tea 
doux tiers ■eptf'ntrionaux dc TAuglcterrc vi llrlande 
lout entiere ; ila [ie* gcologues «iiiKMais] le designent aoiia 
lenoni de drift.'—Vh. Martina, JUv. des I/tux Monda, 
15 AxTiK 1875, p. S.". 

DrinL^" Le plut ricbe rcBtauratcur do Kofr-York, 
DclrDonico, dix foia miilioimaire, cbca le>jue] toua leagena 
de Wall-atfeet et dea rue» clrcunvoisinea vont vera une 
bcure prendre a la hate, dcbmit, un luvck et un dnnkt 
c'eaiadire aiar]>?er un uiorcN-au et se dcBaUerer."--L, 
SimoniiD, J?fw. dts Deux MondtM, Y Docombre, 1875, 
p. 664-— ^' On awalo dea drinks tout le long du trajet." 
-Id. ibid. V Afril, 1875, p. 563. 

StUahithitn, — " Co n'est m dana la pocaie IjriqaOr i^i 
danji «es uombreuaea yavMiii^, ni dans la iiitire, que 
resident roriginnlite et la puiaaance de Tage Elisa- 
butbieu/'^ — Odyjsac-Rarrot, /wfr. 23. 

Eric, — " Votre sbcrif sera le bicRTcnu, mais faites-tnoi 
aavoir quel e»t )e prix de »a t^tc, afin que, ti mes bommes 
la lui coupent, je puisae lerer i'mc (^ic, compoaition) sur 
le pajs."— TAe Irith Chifftairt Mttffttirf to the Lard Di- 
putif air W. FiUmllmm, quoted by E. de Larelejc ; 
litw dt» DtJix Mondts, 15 Ayrib 1875» p. 78t». 

EitabtUkmetiL — " Le disicnt prit, grace a lui [gr5ce au 
tni'thoditmt], dea prcportioni iuqui^tantea pour I*, conaer- 
ratifin de l,'<ttabbthme>iL" — A. Kevillc, Rev, de* Dtux 
JKondti, 15 AoiJi, 1S75. p. ^VJ, 

EUtUiisemtnt (t!io Frencb form of uiaUithment). — 
" 11 [Lord EuiselJJ coaiidi^re Vtiahlisuoient comme une 
partio easentielle de cet admirablft enaemble de conYen- 

tiona, de oon tints, de devoira at droUa qui eat le pl^deitd 
de la statue anKtaiae.'*— A, La.uge], Rtv. da Deux Mondtt, 
IS Avril, ]875»p. 894. 

Everglade.—" lis |les Indiens] ataient cbercbe una 
ratraite inaccesBible dana lea everffiada^ vaatci rnnniii 
bois<!fl, ot, le cypri-a, le magnolia et le palmier utm 
eutretienncut une ttcmelle verdure." — Comte dc I'a-u, 
La (Juare civile ert AmerUiue; Rev. da Deux Jdot^dei, 
I' Juillet, 1S74, p. 18. 

F<iir-phiy.'—"Je renverrali volcntiera certame mati- 
rialtfltes de iiotra continent A. cet exeniple de fttir-ptetf, 
dorine p^r un savant anglaia [Prof. TvndaU]/' — A. "^ 
ville. liev. de* Dcux Mondtt, 15 Mars, 1875. p 315. 

Fait ; f'lltintf.—'^ Cc n'eat plus [le p6cb»5 oriiirintl, i 
RowUnd Williaiiis] une cbute, un fa U accompli uue fil 
pour tuutea, c'cat ua /aUintf, une chute permaiienle^l 
confondant avec notre inclination au ni&l moral."— f 
i*fiV</., 15 Aoftt, 1S75, n.mi. 

Far-west. — " Tout le /ar-tcat juaqu'nu Pacifiqae 
a'alimenter la [k Chicago]."*— L. Simonin, 1' Avrii, 
p. 5m. 

Fettoic. — " D'ftUtrea out dit qu'tl y avait en lu! [en Mr» 
Gladstone] deux bommci. un clief de p:irti et nnjethm 
d^Oxfordr et que Ic chef de parti, loraqu'il ^tait de toii^, 
emprtintait lu plume du fettow pour ccrire Jea du»eiti> 
tions sur Horn ere on aur la th^ologie.'* — R^r. df4 Dev 
Mfmdejt, V Juillet, 1675^1*. *JOT, 

Ferry ; /ctri/lH}<t(.~** Dei centainea de bati^sur tctfll 
et viennent, au milieu (3csqu«lB.,.lta b;ics a rapeur u 
ferriei qui relitnt tea deux rives de I Hudson et <!•;: U 
rifiere de TEat." — L, SimoHiii, 1' Dt'ceinbre, 1S< 
— " Un en avait vu [de^ street l>o^t\ chercbeurai 
ae RlisPer ia nuit dans la cabine' d un ferrtf-hont 
port, — c*^iatt l!!i un lugement de premiere clasfte.**- 
1' Jaar., 1875, p. 6.^. 

Ftirtntion.—** htkjlirtatwn devient entre lea maiAl 
cette tille avia^^e un puiB^ant auxiliuire de In piiljtiquai.'^ 
Th. Bciitzon, Rtc. d^s Deux Monde*, 15 iMar#, If 
p. 337. 

/V»Hfr.— "Ellea [lea muief de Neir-York] vont 
del nmieaj ou accompagniL'ea de celui qui a Ibanaeiiri 
les courtieer et d* j^jVtf r uuvartcment arec eltea,* 
cadcr au Pare Central"— L. Sinionin, 1' D< 
1S75, p. ^^b.—"' Les plusarenantes, lea aeules promt 
souvcnt dea grandea villea [en Syria] aout leura ct 
des morts. On y cause, on y mnnge, on y fume, 
/I'Hf."— E. Melchior de Vogii^\ Jowr«^« df V 
Sytie; Rev. da Dtux Monde$^ V Fuvrier, 1875. p. 

Foreifffi Oijlce,— '* Lea rapports publi^a en 1871 
Foreign O^ce de Londres rcnfermcnt des details pi 
notamment sur la condition pen enviablea dea 
ourri^rea dans lea paja du Levant"— i^rvwa da 
Mondis, 15 Janv., 1875, p. 48(1. 

FwidAiV.- Iriab, — '* II y avait deui clasaea de/ai 
lea joCT- et lea darr futdhirt. Lea uns cuUivaieat 
terrea vaguea que lo seigneur Icur cooccdait Lea Mti 
*e tnmvaicnt dana un itat de domeBticit^ aerrila 
d'eiclftva^e." — E. de Lavelejc, La Lni» drs BrekMi 
Rev. des Deux Monies, 15 Airil, 1875, p. 893. 

HfiKEI GacsskkoKi 

Ayr Academy. 




I Bend Bome extmcta from the old parish 
tcra of Choflton Kiogs, near Cheltenham, wl 
unless I am miitaken, will be looked upon 
many readers as i uteres ting and cuhoua. 




books dftt« frail KoTember 14, l/iSft. They are 
o^Qtiniicyiia to thit preaeot time, and are alinoAt 
perfect, one leaf only (which apparently contained 
eotnes tnaa Mi.rck, 1557, to December, 1558) 
Jftai bom out, and they are io an udusuilIIj 
ftf pwjtx vation. The extracts, in which 
the spelling aa in the originals, 

The Z<^ day wm baptized Anre, the 
11 Gmlle'g daughter, begotten in Waller 

ut. The 16 d»y wa« Edward Waprfr rair- 
•rife 3U.rgret. [She froa buried 12th 


Tb« 13 dAj vr&i Williftm Ballanger 
:iii\itr. Th« 21 dftj wore niarricd Edward 

,: -mber. The twenty day was bsptize J John, 

the wtie at m trmwiler, 
1^4. AptiK B&pti2«d y* i d»r txAb«1)» tupposed 
Co WiHUro Kinge, it buried y* 7 dny. 
^(oTember. Married y* 15 day John Rogcn k 

ber. The 16 day married TUomaj \thit- 

rne]i Fran'. 

rh. The «> AtLj bapti«ed y" daughter of a 

tan, nfvmeri Mfifgret. 
'i>cr. Hapti?.c'i y 20 day Fruncei, daTig' 
tvii L»»tiffjrd, ba<e Ijorn. 

FebTTjary. Buried j* 20 day a trariUinge 

>laT. Buried y' 8 day a poor© man's childe. 
August. Buried y* 19 day a travilinge woman. 
I'^i6. SoTember. Bom^ the 6 dny Rrjbcrt and Dori- 
lUbr ii"^ ^wl dauj(hter of John Whithorn. [There are 
wmr^%htr «ntriei nf />»V'A. 1 

iVd AuKUit. Buried Widdow Werreti, an Atmai- 
IQM* of Cheltenham . 
HtCL Mar 14. fffancM. ftritrn of a trnTiclinir woman, 
l^ll December y seventh. Buried M" Ann Jordan, 
»:4' f rm. riy the wife of ililes Grovile, gent 

mbcr the 1*'. Buried Hen, UaelJ, aged 

• ■• - c-i'tetnhtf 7- Buried Mary, the daughter of 
JIarf Clacrly, widow, .Small Pox. 
1^?. M^rl. Baptized Mary^ the daughter of Wil- 
, ztr, 

t. Buried Mary Youiinf, iniflwife. 

v . 1 ,, ., Jftughter of Walter k. Marv Buckle. 

Borne y *>7"' of Ap". 1>^8S. Baptx^' y' IS"" Any of May 

Wlowrnp in y* Puri^h of S* Leonard's Shored itch^ Lon- 

-ht wu also bom : she desired to bavo it re« 


•her 3. Buried Thomas Clarke, y' came 


April 7. Buried the bafi« daught' of Elinor 
e-'-iOt and reputed daogbf of James Welsh, Bine 

!'^r^. October 29. Baptised Emaniiell and Joseph, 
Ilnb' Slilei and Huaafia, hi<< wife (at one birth). 
Nofember 26, Buried Nicholas Powdawell, al' 

'4, March 12. Buried 8am' Clark (y- Clark). 
i;H..' Ill January 10. Buried Mary Harding, wid. 
(Itr«i one bubdrcd k on«). 
<rt5. ^'oTfmber 3. Buried James Booker, a Tra- 

" ' May 31. Buried Jn* Wilkp, an infmt i*trainEer. 
:.j. March 31. Baptized Richard Humi>hria( Adult). 

1730, October 4. Baptized Charlton, ion of a Travel- 
ling Woman of the Pariahjialao of B&dnum, Ucrcford8hir<} 
{hi she a"). 

I might eaaily add to the number of extmcta of 
the same kind, but the foregoing will, I think, 
suffice, at leaflt for the present. There are verj- 
many entries in the books hijtjhly nseful, as I have 
fmind them to be, in a genealogical point of view. 

Allow nie, while writing about Clmrlton Kings, 
to append a short paragniph from Sir Robert 
Atkyns's *sVafc of Glonccsicnhiret p. 173 (second 
edit,, London, 17C8) :— 

"Jesmi College in Oicford has the nomination of tlie 
parson [of Cheltenham] from aiuonj^st their fellows; and 
the Earl of Gainabonjugh baa the approbttion of him. 
The p&raon is only a fltipendiary ; and by the a^reemertt 
which Sir Baptist Hicks (ancestor of the same E.arl) 
ma*le with the Collepe. who derive iht-ir title under him, 
ho cannot continue longer than six years; and thcliko 
agreement ia made fur the parish of Churieton Kirji^j." 

Tbe patronage of the parish of Cheltenham ha-s 
passed into other handa, but that of Charlton 
Ktnga 18 fetill' vested in the principal and fellows 
of ,7(01.115 College, Oxford. I shall be glad to know 
more res|jecting the aforesaid limitation, which I 
do not at pre^ient understand, the late Incumbent 
of Charlton Kings having held the post for up- 
wards of forty years. Abhba. 

In penising the pnges of Afanii and Manners at 
iht Cinirt r>/i'7r>ri?n re— reviving, in a most agreeablt? 
manner, the pleasant memories derivtrl from innu- 
mentble standard works of that very pleasant, and, 
perlmps, most, interesting of all the centuries, the 
eighteenth— it was, it must be tonfesscd, rather 
surprising to find the word "humbugging" oc- 
curring at so <?nr]y a period m 1760, in one of the 
letters from Mann to Walpole. Referring to 
Tri&trajn Shnrnhj^ then in course of publication, 
Mann writes (vol* ii. p. 71):— 

'* You will laugh at nie, I suppose, when I soy that 
I don't understand it. It was prubnbly the intention of 
the author that nobody sfionld. It seems to me hum- 
bugging, if I have a ri^jht notion of aa art of talking 
and writini^ that lio-s been invented since I left Enghind. 
It diverted m**^ briwever, eiti eniely ; and I bog to huve, 
as soon as possible, the two other volumes, which I see 
ndvertbed io the papers for next Chriatmas," 

I once saw a statement in which the origin of 
the word "humbug" was attempted to be tie- 
counted for. Various origins were assigned to it ; 
but it seemed to be tiiken for grunted that the 
word was the coinage of thi& century. Among 
these origins it was stated that, when Britain wa;* 
declared by Napoleon L to be in a state of blockade, 
Hamburg became, in consequence, a citj' of the 
greatest impartance ; and one of the result's was 
that a great deal of false news can^e from Ham- 
burg for the purpose of atfecting the stock and 
cotanaercial maikatSj and that these and such 


[S** S, V. JAir. 

like fftlae reports came to be called " Hamburg," 
which was softened into **" humbug"; uod heuce, 
it was aaid, the origin of the term. TJie preceding 
extract puta nn end to any such idea. 

The word "humbug" is not given in the sixth 
edition of Dr. Johnson's Didionary, published in 
1785, nor, it ig believed, in the prior editions ; nor 
in Ktchf»rdson's Jjictionnnj, published in 1S4<5 ; 
nor in The Student's English Dktionary, by OgU- 
vie, published in 186G ; but it occurs in Noah 
Webster's Dictionary ^ published in or about 1833, 
as follows : "Humbug, an imposition [a low 

It eeemsj howcTer, to be perfectly evident that 
Mann used the word as one of settled use und 
meaning when he wrote in 1760, I am not aware 
if any prior instance of its use can be found. It 
i» more than probable that it had been one of 
those words whieh have floated about in popular 
parlance for many years, perhaps for many ages, 
tefore being reilueed to writing, I woiJil now 
fiuhmit that " humbug " 13 very closely rehited to 
the Latin word "ambage" (gr hard), both in sound 
and in meaning, rtnd consequently in ongin. As 
showing the exact resemblance in meaning between 
these two wonln, allow me to extract from Little- 
ton's Latin Diciionai-y {4X\i edition, 1703) the 
meanings of *'«mbage." Tiiese are :^ 

'* A long circumstance of words, a t^dioug etory to no 
parptiae, & tnio of Robin Hood; a cotripaas or f«'tcii 
ivbout ; prettmblca. impertineticies, intricate pasetapes. 
tumiD^i and windings; beaming about thebaflUj dark, 
tnysfcenooi sayinj^i." 

Meanings more thoroughly descriptive of " hum- 
bug '■ than these cannot be conceived, with one 
exception, that of "a tale of Robin Hood''; the 
value of " tales of Robin Hood " having risen very 
greatly in the market of literature since the year 
1703. But all the other meaning* seem mast 
fully to justify the couckision that *'ambngc " and 
"humbug" are very slightly differing modifica- 
tions of the same word^ unlesa proof of a very 
clear anil most positive nature can be adduced to 
show the contrary. Hewry Kiluouh. 

[Tlie title pB go of th« Vniverml Jester (published be- 
tween 1735 40) state* thmt *' the book ia a choice «oUbc- 
tjoTi fif . . . ck'richorSf cloi^ers, lorn matj, and humbug,*' 
In Ttit OmmnMiur^ 1754 56, i. 108, •^' hmubuK " i» de- 
fintfl m " tk new-cnined expression which is only to be 
found in tlie nonBerisical vocnbulary." In ISCO the 
Uoohftfcr en):;r«'¥«te«l the derirution of the word from 
"ainbage," which word fimplying tedir>ug deceptive 
circunilwctitii'U) waa cruployed as nn Englii^h word by 
Puttenbam, in hii Art of Poftie, 1580, '' Withont any 
Inng Btudy or trdinua ambai:;© " ; by Dckkor, in Lis 
Whore of /J*»ftj^foK.1607, " Yare fuH of aniboge "; and io 
Vicar'i Kirtft^, 1(j32:- 

•* The Ctimae&n Sibyl linga 
Ambigui^ua ambages" ; 
the rendering of— 

*• Cain«?ft Sibylla 
Iforrtndax ciinit ambages." 
For farther lalornuition see *' N. k Q.," !•♦ S. viL 550^ 

m ; Tiii. fit, 161, 232. 422, 49*, 575; 3-* S. v, 470; 
a. X. 3ai, 5U9.J 


Amonrrst the Stretton MSS. in the Xottingl 
Free Public Reference Library ia the folloiri 
series of orders for the proper manafjement of 
parrison in Nottin^duuu in 1(!44, sijrned 
" Maior,^ William Nix, and Cob Hutchin 

" ^Ir. Mainr and the Governor doe require 
iif hntsooTcr within tbi« GarriBon (for the better ord«' 
and goyeraini;!! of the aame) to take notice nf 
orderftbere followinj?, a» tboy will answer the contrary 

'*1. If anyone sluili bee found idley standinse 
walkinge in tbe j<trcctc in sermon tyme, or playing 
any giini«« upon the aaUath or fast day. Itee ahall 
halfe a ciowne, or suflcr impnaonin* tilt bee pay 

**2. If anyone shall bee found drinkintjc in 
Taveme, Inne, or AlehouBO on the faL^ith or fs^t dni 
heo elmll pay l%nr KuflFer impriaonm' till 1. 
eame ; Ami tbe m' of that bouse shall pay f : 
8<>e taken in it 1', and if hea oQend tho 6ecui4K^ „ , .,,„ 
shall be disenabled for tellinge winej, olej or heart 

" 3. If any Taverne, Tnne, or Alehouse max 
any wine, ale, or t-eare out of their bouj- 
Fabatb or fast day (except to any one who _,,, 

the first ofl«nce ho fhalt pay 10' (t), fur the sccoodl 
aad for tbe third disenobled for lellinj^e any wine, 
bi?ftre any more. 

** 4. If any Tmtlesman Bhall carry home any 
any of tbeir Customers nn tha wibath day, they a 
feit tb^ir work mid euB^ar A weeka impriaonm'. 

" 5. If anyone shall kcepc open iiny shuppe, or 
sell any c >mo.ditic« whataoaver, on the sabath or 
dayei, the buyer Bhnll pay 1*, and tbe seller 1*, and 
iiupriBonm* till hee pay the ^ame (unfe«a it hea upon 
extraordinary occasion for one that ia sick). 

'*d. I i anyone Bhall nvyenre, iit'e shall pay iij'* fore 
oatho, or ^Uiffo^ impriaonm' till heo pay tlje ^ame. 

" 7. If anyone aball be drunke, hee Hlinll pay fire 
lingB, or suffer Imprisonm* till bee puy the fiimn ; am 
m' of tho IwJUBe where bee was nrndcTdruakf »hall p*y 
and likewise fiuffer impris'.nim* till bee pay tbe sama. 

*' 8. If anyi»ne ubidl bee found tipltnge or drinkingfl 
any taYeme, Intie. or Alcbouisr after the boure of nyn* 
the clock Atnifjht^ when the Tjip too beate!», bee «h»ll 
2' 6*; And the liouge for the first tyme shcdl puy S 
fnr every man m found, and the »eoi>nd tynro 5% and 
the third tynic be disenabled for MlUng« wine, «le, 
bei*re nuy more. 

** 0. If any soldier ilinll hee found drinkinge in 
Quarters nfter nyne of thr clock at night wljpn the 
too hatli beaten, they «ba1l pay 2% or Kuflfer 24 hours 
priionm' w*^ bread and water. 

" 10. If any Tnverno. Inne, or Alehouse foerer ahi 
Bell auy wine, ale. or boa re (eicepl upon an extraoriUi 
occasion to one that is pick) after the houre of nj 
the clock at nijiht, after the taptoo hatb beaten, 
the RcTclly bath beaten the next mornini;;?, hee 
pay 1*. or suffer impriaonm' till hce pay the same ; 
hce who fetcheH tb* drinke after the afnrcfaid h 
shall paj 2" 6', or suffer impriioam* till hee pay (he 

" Whosnerer shall give Information cf any pson 
ahall comitt any of these offences, he shall hitvc halfe 
penalties sett upon them for his reward, 

"Will, Nix, Maior 
"JoHK HeTeniKsojr." 




On ^hr: lt«ok ti ^ abeet of foolscap folio paper 
«t ^hft • Uoo IS TrrilUri there is A note, 

j;i ntctitm $c*T a corj^oml to ** See to y* 

b«# arAem to-dAv/' and dMed *' Stib- 

Kt chiefly of leiiJtl docu- 

tlie neigh Ixmrhood of 

le-la-Zoach, including 

from and to Riebjird 

" '■'tinder, nnd Daine 

nder nf the Not- 

« iii^Fi . . iL'.tl, The collection 

rt of ftdniinistration of Sir Isaac 

IT.-: r TTER BRisroR, F.R.H.S., &c„ 
Principal Libnirian. 

'TV r 


Es,— I little thf)iii:;ht that the 

shich, lUH a child, I used to 

<«,' could boast, as a jfjvme, 

iritiquitj lu I had hitely an 

;r,,-,,, l-tvine occasion to 

i FdicU (ktnrins. 

in-, ho S!iuntered 

at Ostia, re* 

i on the beach 

I |;;entie trend, Atter describing 

rt presented on that occasion, fw 

id yemty waves on the shore* 

of a marine piiinter, they 

"Uirj'e the ships were dmwn up 

a the shore, and here they are 

d by witneft'-ing the boys playint; 

'>e culled ducks and drakes. The 

natural that its beauty 

?pt at a transliition :— 

<iO litu dii^Uii 

nilem, quantum 

jjjiiiiijroL'tMu ; ux lii li jflrculmii re) dirimm 

T*1 enataret, dum Icni imtictu Tahittir ; 

^ ■'-''"(bus iuiiils. enijcaret. irm^rjiteret^ durri 

auf Ti *e in pu^-rw victflrem fere- 

^ p^^>currelet lonjijiua et frcqueniiuj 

Tlii* flinduih game w-ai culled by the Greeks 

r^io?, and 18 thjis described by Jnliiis 

i«. cjip, vif. 119 (edit. Henag.^ foL, 

rTfiaKitr)ti^, uarrptLKOv tmv $a Xarritav 

ar^s e-jriroXiyif a<^i.ufrii', api^jUoviTc? 

-pi Tor KaraCivvai Tny^yJ/iaTa iv t^ 

"yp €rrtJjpofxi) : Ik yap tqv TrXT/^ofs 

in t 11 ,r, on tlw» abw , in this edition, 

ii:he frtll.*winif frv)tn I arf 27. ^, :— 

K» » • ■ ' f * » p ^ 

fli t* «s^»frTpa»fiiT/iu» ettjoi; (?€ oiTo? Trairmx^^ 

*i^' j]»'. (AatTti', oirrpnHia srA<iT«a «KTerpi/i/J.«ra 

*<Xa*x*n7? xynorfvTflit uraTOi t^? eirtdifweiai 

ttToiTytraiTa Ai'uifrt Kara ^aAacro-jJ'S, yfOLtrTrjIf 

In the edirJon of Minucinii Felix from whicli T 
have niioted (Oiizelins, Lu;j, Bat,, U.I72, Svo.) ihere 
h an interestinj^ en{,Tavin^ before the title, repre- 
senttng the three pernons who carry on tJie db- 
lajrue. The figure in the Centre is Minucius Felix, 
who Slit* a.** the judi^e ; the cawse of the controversy 
is Ciccilius,a heathen, who is rebuked byOctavins, 
a Chriatian, becnnse, lueetinfj with nn efti^ry of 
Serapis (who is represented in the back^rrouml of 
the pu^tnre), he seemed io pjiy respect to it— **ut 
vul;.'t'..s MiperstitioiHJ)* solet, itiarvniii ori ndmovens, 
ojtcnluiu bbiia presait." At the left-hand si4o of 
the entiraving may be seen ^muo boy playing 
at ducks and dndtes, and the smooth pebbles 
gliincinjLj over the surface of the water, K. C 


Sit,EN*T H.^A funny story was told nie of a 
chimney-sweep who had to letter sotne flues in a 
lat^c hot^sc, in order tbiit they iniijht be easily 
d{»tifj^uii«hed froui each other. When bis work 
W.I** fjnne, he called hi-* uiaat^T and said, '* Now, 
sir, I've put 1> for the dmintr-room, N for tho 
nursery, and A for the 'all/' But this mim was 
only consistent in hut error. He never pronounced 
his /**«, uad so be rcfraincii from writing them. 
The lilcmry Mrislocnwy of the courUry are not «o. 
Tbi'V atknowlcdj,'!' A in the orthogKiphy of several 
words, whilst tliey i;_'nore it in their pronuneiatioa. 
[ have never anywhere seen n satisfactory expLi* 
nation of this phenomenon ; but perbups the fol- 
lowing solution may bi« sufficient. It juny be laid 
down as a Kencnd rule that, whiUt j^uttunvla aljound 
in Northern dialects, they wither away and vanish 
in the South : and therefore it is, r' priori, probable 
that if a won! were «-oinod in Northern regions, 
and imi>orted into some Southern ton^^ue, it would 
lose aliooAt entirely any pitturals tliat it mights 
possess. It would, indeed, be very interesting if 
some who have more time and ability than myself 
would discover what proportion of words in Eng- 
lish with initial h silent come orvjinaUif from 
Northern languaj^'es ; because if this be not a satis- 
factory answer to my ijuestion, I do not vqq what 
reply can be piven. I know that in Enjfland, at 
any rate, the aspirate is recogni/.eti incre:iaingly u4 
one proceeds north ; and I should think we might 
argue from our own country to Europe as a whole, 
generallv speaking. W. H» 

Untfieid Udl, Durb&m. 

Bebr, the eervitia of former days, is no longer 
the drink of Northern nations only. It ia con- 
sumed all over the South as well. Italy has her 
hirtnrit\, and Spain ber cfrre«ruTJ, and Egypt 
brews her own beer now as in the dfiys of Hero- 
dotus. But this was not the case in the seven- 
teenth centui7 ; and an idea may be formed of 




tbe n vers ion with which Northern drinks wpre 
regarded i)y the Italiuna of that day fron; I be 
following lines of Francesco Eedi i — 

" Cbi )ii squftllidft ccrf ogia 
Alle UbrjL pile cnngiugnv 
Frct^to nmore, o rado giapie 
Air etJ^ Tcccbia q bHrttogia. 
Bevft U fidro d'fnglultemh 
Clii vuol gir presto soiUini : 
Chi tudI ifir prestto a I In morte, 
Le bevande titi dd Not to/' 

ykcw m rtrfogjiiEi, di'tiravd'O. 

That beer wn.i hel*l in no higher bonout in Fninee 
in the fifteenth centuiy we find in a fionq, written 
ngttinst Ihe English during; the ^ie^^e of Pontoise 
(1441), nntl given by the chronicler Jean C-bartier. 
I subjoin the firwt couplet :^ 

" En Ire vauft, AnglDia ct XoriiiBn!«^f 

Fuyez Timi en, prenez ]e« chanifi^s, 

Oiiblie^ 1« riTi^re dXiiw^ 

Et retounitz a la cerrc^iae 

lie quoy toqi esiei toui uijurrii,'* 

Afl for the Komi ana, they tboti^ht very ditterently 
in the tbiriceuth century, nnd the BritUh Miiseiiui 
po?Fep-^ta a nismn script of i* s^ong dntin^ from that 
period, nnd culled LttabinuhiRf 'wh.e^cln^\G find : — 
'' Or hi parm 
La ccrreysu vk^b chantera: 
Qui que aukea en beji. 
Si tol Njyt CMniine eatre doit : 
lies tniruuda." 


The SrtrooLiiOT to tiik Fore,— One winter in 
xiiy pchool days, during the Christmas holidays, I 
rend ti*i ii^\u\[ the prolofrnc jind epilogue t*> the 
"WcM minuter pky"^the Andria tb:*t ymr, if 

I w^meiuber ri^btly, A line in the epilogue 
pleaded me ^L'ru.itly, rnnninfc '* cam posit o pede»'^ 
and having th<> true poetic rini;;, I therefore com- 

II lit ted it to ijiemory, for use upon occasbn. The 
line KTrts— 

Tile ^yracoaiua |irotulit arte Etiicx/' 

In the next a Ihcsls* ;;iivc me the desired 
opportunity, irnd I prodmied my treasure a«t a 
gem in my copy of verges. I showed them up to 
Arthnr ileyrick, He hiid a habit of nodding his 
hertd and comntesslnf; his Vms^ like the Duke of 
\VclliD;Tton, when RnythiniJ pleased or tickled him. 
He ftiivc three noda :ib he rend the line ; read it 
sdoud twice over T^itli the giisto of an alderman 
over his inrtle, ami gave me the *ci oo* which I 
expected and the verse dcBent'cd. Many years after- 
wards I found the line in nn old claaait;— I think 
Chmdiiin. Westminster had " cribbed " it from 
the old clasaic, and I had "cribbed^' it from Weat- 
jninster. ** Crib for ever 1 "' 


BniDOES'a " NoUTHAMrrONSHlEE." — ^On 1 

blank leaf of the first volume of a copy of diu 
work now before me i» the foUowing note, 
written., apparently, at the close of the last oeotiuy, 
by the then owner of the book ; — 

"Mr. Bridge! waa of Barton S^p^r^f w&n of Jobs 
Bridget, Esq., of the lanie i>tae«, who wa* son of Colcad 
John Bridji^ea, of Alceiter, in Warwickshire. The tnti- 

guary wan Lorti at Bi afield, CO. Berk a, about 1666. \mt^ 
fiy-eigbt veura of a$re at hia death in 1724. He wn 
bred lo the law, which, howerer, he n«ver much fnt]owi4 
Ofl a profeasion, beinif tfoHcitoF^ and after irftrdi eto- 
R^i&iioTifr of tlifi cuatonii nhd euhier of exciic. Bf 
began hii coliectioDa for thia work m 1T1!)> and trpfoid 
sererat tliDUftaiid pounds in tranicripti from pttbRck 
office^ kc He left th^m as an belt-bom to hi* brotlw 
Wllliani of tbf! SUmp tiflice, who coiiaigned tbvmtocw 
(•ibboni, R LoniJoii bookiellcn This person CfifipA 
Sam. Jebh, M,D,, of Stamfuriii, to conipile a biatorrfiw 
them; rnirl H *riti bef^n to b« publishefl in numben^of 
whicb tix or K^en appealed ; ^flcr which, on tb« bank* 
ruptcjaf Uibboni, the vtwk wna d]icQatmti0d, but ik 
colkctiuna remain I'd with Dr. Jobb, At Uagtb tk 
([entry of Knrthnmptonfihire took up th« builnfl«^ tk 
cinims of Vr. Jebb were liciuldated by Wtlllam Cm*- 
writfht, Esq., M.P,, and the MSB, put into the lundi d 
a comnuttef, who emplo^ved Mr. Whallej.* Ha anla^ 
th« plnn by the intrmlustion of bii>|^phlca1 anetdow^ 
but after the rompilntion was completed, and mujchofit 
primed, it slill Uy donnant fov many years. Tki* 4* 
vol, bowf'Ter, appeared in IT^^'I. pui't of the tecDnd ii 
ITiil^ and in 17Tl^ th« remainder wu Announwd fo 
publicmtion- But it did not come out till 17Sd." 

Thomas Nobth. 
The llank^ Leiec«ter. 

Rradikq the NicENE Grkrd. — A very commw 
mistake is ninde by clerg>"uien, who read, "Hw 
LfmJ-!Uid-M;iver nf life," infilead of ''The Lord|U)d 
Giver-of-Hfe," which is the tranRharon of theGre^ 
ori^'inal — to Kvptov Kal frh*otro£or. A popobr 
hymn has, **Thon, of life the Lortl and giwr.' 
Another reading Jiduiita of doubt, hut I eoniider 
it erroneoujt. I have heard a very hij^fa drgnituy 
say cm phut i cully f " God of God, light ojt li<rhr, "way 
Gad of very God , . . ." I should prefer '^Godflf 
God ; , . , , begotten ; not made," connecting 6«of 
iK r^to? .... with y^rnj^nTa. S, T. P, 

P.S,^I think, too, the words "with glory' 
ought to he reiuJ parenthetically, ao as to M 
separated from '' ujjjiin." 

SvriFT's Rf ETAT^uoua— Mr. FoTster, in his Lift 
of Sitift, I p, :»7, quotes Johnson as sayiDg « 
Swift, " The «ly dog never ventures at Ji luetaphoi.' 
When nnd where is this saying of Johnson re- 
corded 1 In his life of Swift, Johoaon says of 
him (Muq>hy*s ed.^ 1TD2^ li. p. 38), " That he li» 
in hia workH no metaphor, [i@ has been said, ia n^t 
triie," Johnson had always a atrong prejadic* 
against Swift, but the term " sly dog " as applied 
to the Dean is hardly " Johnaoniau.^* 

Edwaed Sollt. 

* '' Tlie Rot. Ptter WhaUey, kte Pellow itt BU J<*a* 
College, OifurJ."' 




r«|M« Mmtpondentfl deiirin^ informfttloD 
on faiBilj wmUtn 9t onlj private interest, to aiSix their 
KiUBM aM adtaHt to tliolr querieii, in oiMer that the 
mmf te iddr(i>Bd (o them direct.] 

■li^... ;.i. 

vrKNRy?" (See Di Ike's Pajicrs 
.. p, 60.) — A correspondent from 
ffia arnl*^ to me : — 
VfecB I wg i J <d in PonUfract, tertral y«*rs aifo, I 
«i £t, GiJci«'t Cburcb in that town a Urge 
waBiOOtMt tntcrib«d aa follows: — 
• f\... ij^^nr^ttd to trMlK MitoricaL 

■■, the TJrtuoui, and the juat, 
.'iiei ^ith tTiPir nntive dust. 
«ud*a iiouors -i • hU face, 

'd llift anna ttgn 1 lidh rae«. 

hope, Mord:.^,.., .„.^^ater, DftkeU, 
•nd rapturOf if alive, could tell 
be fotixlit, whilst fighting aught avail'd^ 
T * ' i when our numbers faiTJ. 

li ! 'scapes and Moody toils relicv'd, 

\f l ' „ . ' ' ne'er a wound rcceir'd. 
Vporticd at cowards with becctininjL? pride, 
mh hiM aim, and providence his guide, 
neglected and rcduc'd, be sped 
one niurinnr to Uin horiiely ihed. 
forth, at lait, by warlike GtoTtjt to view, 
bis broad sword, acd he used it too ; 
heart at htliintjen was try*d. 

low'd with Wflfiarn at his «id<!>, 
rou9, in his country's cause, 
^ n hjm with a lotid apptause; 

ajtors sought his mooter's right,, 

for once for;^'ot to fluht; 
edfng son was prisoner rnade» 
Were sheltered by their white cockade, 
ill vine, his fig-tree, and his wife, 
" impetuous to the doubtful strife, 
and target grac'd his joyous huj], 
I'd by hia iword, cuiruM, and iron cawl. 
A«ik) busy mortals a«k, " How much he gave 
^blafiTe children " ere he sought the grave : 
he gate. nrhiUt liTJng, to his boii« 
is dm(?ht*r4, blt-i^Btd portions — 
! the best thfit children cun receive, 
I the best that best of meti can give. 
d their roinds to every gospel grace 
t"' '^^ir' ■— iutant in her plact;). 

■: demanded other cares, 
for learned c;uidcs he aparci* 
let, blc«3 viii\\ thy reluctiuit teari^i 
itiaq foldier in the vale of years. 
Ilia oomndes, by his triDOp reverd ; 
men courted, by the wicked feor'd ; 
Lonour^ trttth. and justice can ensure 
his •oul, in bltM he lives fecure/ 
lUubew Swinney woa horn in the kingdom 
to the year of our Lord 1*!184. He married 
eldett daughter of Rob. Kitchintnan, Esq., by 
he had r^ii" three wtip wnd two daughters, all hij 
'■ ' ' ^' ' " " ^ I eighty-two yeani, 
•>ld church. The 
■ \na meant to con- 
•ak'U Uj tlte unlearned reader, 
1 tongue, and the monument 
«»3-« r:iivc-,i ui. till- I itit nicvtion of tbe deceaaed'fl 
ir*t«— George, fitulprt/, and Poladen." 

as this the Sydney Swinney referred to by 

Waodfall i It certiiinly seems consistent tliat a 
Btout old warrior like the Major should huve a son 
an army chaplnln. Further information could 
doubtless be obtained ut Pontefract. The Kit- 
chinmans were mayors of that place in the reigns 
of Geo. I., II, (ind III,, ^nd the name of George 
Swinney occurs as mayor in 1760. C, V. 

"Coming through tiik rtie,"— Tn both the 
English and American editions of the |)oem3 of 
Burns, there is a note preceding the siony "Comiog 
through tlie rye," which seems to indicate that ifc 
is not an original work of the poet, but an amended 
version of an old song. I hnve ulso hejird it said, 
nnd from the hiuguage of the song imi disjiosed to 
believe the report to be true, that by *' rj^e " is 
meant, not, as is generally supposed in America, 
a gmin field, but a rivulet in Ayrshire niiiued Rye* 
Cannot some one of your corrp^pondents tlirow 
light on these points ? Scoto-Amkricus. 

Old Esgravino of Bauson or Sedberoh. — A 
friemJ of mine showed me recently a large mezzo- 
tint engraving of this celebrity, who was, I believe, 
an eminent schoolmaster and matbematician at 
the end of the hst and at the beginning of the 
present centurj', at Sedberghj in Yorkshire. The 
enfrmvingf, which bad been purchased at ibe sale 
of Professor Sedgfwick, who had been an old pupil 
of Dawson's at Sedbergh, represents him as stand- 
ing, and pointing with bis finger to an open book^, 
over which a grey-headed man in a sitting [wsture 
ift bencJinif, the back of whose head h depicted. 
The countenance of Dawson exhibits both intellect 
and benevolence of the highest order •„ and in the 
chancel of the church ht Sedbergh, of which place 
he w!i.*ii a native, is a bust of him. Gunning, in his 
liemininfencdg of Vainbridge^ speaks of Dawson us 
^"Ttne whose chamcter at that time (/.<;, ctrca 
1786} stood very bi^fh aa a teacher of tnathematic?, 
a.nii many North -countrymen were amongst liis 
pupiis" (jfeoond edition, vol. ii. p. SIM, He was 
presumably educated at St. John's College, Cs\iu- 
bridge, as the Mastership of Sedbergb School is in 
the gift of that College ; but a search for hit* name 
amongst the Mathematical Triposes in the Cam- 
brt*l'jc University Cakndar has proved fruitless. 

1. Is there any memoir in exiitenc* of Dawi'on? 

2. Is the name of the engraver of the mezzo- 
tint known 1 

3. Is it known who is represented by the seated 
figure in the engraving f 

Jon?! PlCKFOED, M.A. 
Newboume Rfctory, Woodbridge. 

S. Prout.— In the year 1821 was published, by 
Akerman, a book of Htbograph views, principally 
of buildings. I cannot give the title. The views 
were drawn on the atone by Prout ; they are sub- 
scribed " S. Prout delV' with the name of the 
place, and some, but not aU> ha^G ui^tl U\ft dxvK- 



(f/'s. v.jiN. aC' 

ing htf? iijonogmm. I hnTo ulwnys nndcrstootJ 
that tlie lithogmphR were fmui ori^jioal dniwingrs 
by Proat, hut have now some rejison to <U*nhi 
this ; for, urwn an evidently cooteiiiporanroiis 
Wftter-colour amwin^^'^, in nay possession, of Mickle- 
gntc Bar at York, the subject of one of the litho- 
}^niplij», with which it nf^nreeH in every stroke, I 
have hit*iy Jiscovered the tiinrnjiture "J. M. W. 
Turner/' I have hiiJ the dmwing Nome venr^, 
and have always shown it as a Proiit, hut ]t hua 
l>een rcuiBrfced by muny that it is in parts very 
like Turner's work. The lithoirniph has DPither 
the signature of Tamer nor the monotTrfim of 
Proiit, I conckidfj wilb the query, Were the 
iithographfj from the dniwin;^'<» of various artists ? 
The title-page of the boolc, which I have been 
unable to meet with, might throw some light oij 
this. A; R B, 

Edoar Allan Poe.— 

•* Tlie Utica Olmyr^r merit'icn*, as a fiurt which h»9 
eicaped the notice of ail h« biogrnpliert. tliat Edpnr 
Allan Poe waa the (rnmdfon of Benedict ArnoUl. Hi» 
mf»t.h*r, who im* known brfore h^r iiiarri(i|;:e *« Elizn- 
I'cth Arnold, an Eneli§h actress, was the natuml tlnugh- 
ter of the traitor. This staten»cnt restfl on the concurrent 
teitmiony of a number of old actors who knew l^Iixubctli 
Arnold well. l*oe himwlf alluded to the matter occa- 
sionallT in the company of those who knew thi« ch»i»t«r 
in his famtlj hbtory." 

Can any of the reuders of "N. & Q.*" verify thi« ? 


J^toi Club, New York. 

PriFDICTIOy OF THE C'RlMnAX WAn, — I should 
be glad to aacertriin the origin of the folio win^^ 
lines, which passed current as a prediction of the 
Crimean wnr, and whiL^h I copied front the newa- 
papor.^ of thnt tin^e, but unfortunately without 
milking any further note thereof : — 
" Trln miranfla .' 
Onines Cbri»tii\in bttoh Mumpnt contra Turcam, 

PrtiRter ChriKtianiMuntim. 
Otnne* filii ecclflsia* bcUum contra Ttircato parant, 

rr?ct#r PriiiJO(!:enHun(i. 
Omnia animalia laudtnt Deum ob partitC] d« Turcii 
Prajter Oallum." 

James T. Presley, 


Galatiaks."— < !an you pive ine any information 
as to the author i»f this book, in my posses.sion ? 
It haw lost its title-pa^e. h purports to have 
been written about forty years after the introtluc- 
tioti of Proteataotisin into thL? country, Ps. xci. i:j 
hi tran^latt'd. ** They that trust in iUkX shall wdke 
upon the L)on andBasiliske." L. A, Simon, 

PniCTlIT-nniiH» 12tl xMtLRS X. FROM GOA, AND 

" nf>ltitiHif» do Voypp-'B rlani rKiUMy.o clirttiennc," pnr 

Mil. ' Perichetti ; (en Ital *r.) - M«rrnrie -le Vt«i;«i per 

IJi'jropa Christiana/' dell* Abbute G. B. Perichetto 

Nnplesp V^y%:>. 5 vol in42. Bibliotbcqae tJniTenellei 
VoyjigcB, vol. 1. p. 2s*5. 

Wi».s the family of the Abbe Perichotti conix 
in any way with India ; or c^in the identity 
two tionies be otherwise accounted fori 

Starcross, near Eicter, 

KonKHT Brow jr.— I have a pamphlet 
pnfies, Vfnf.% to the Mcmwy of a Brotkrr, 
author's name, place or name of printer, or 
but a note on p> 1 indicfites the deceased to 
been "Mr, E. Brown, who died Jan, 22, 17i 
the ajje of twenty-five." It is nither a wide 
tion asking for a Brown of our own day, 
more so for one of the laet century, with onl 
additional key to bid identity that ''ho ei] 
soon to aci^ouipany a yonn^ prentleuian o 
travels." The poem h nn affecting one, sa 
brothers! niay, perhaps, be recognized by 
lines :— 

" Where now that sweet communion of Jcsigtji, 
Hu pcncU'i figures and wy muse's linca/* 


" CoNCERNiNo Snakes tn Iceland. The 
no snjikes in Iceland," — Will some learn et 
give the correct form and orifrin of this ci 
brief chapter of Icelandic njitural histoi 
form in which it is commonly quoted is 
like the above. In a leader in the Sta 
writer gave it to Erie Pontoppidwn ; but 
in the Letters to Buth-r (p. 57), s peaks j 
chapter concerning €wh in Neil Horrel 
tftrftl Bisionj ; and lastly, in the now tpL-ii 
Mind (just published), the Rector of Lincoln 
Je^e informs us that, in the words of the fai 
i^hapter of Glaus Mrirjnus, there is no phil 
at Oxford, a F. S, WARREfr, MX" 


'* The Ptlgrimaoe ov Princks."— T hftv« »■ 
copy of tbiit work, printed in black letter «ni 
dedicated to *' the right worshipful and bisainpnUr 
);iood M, Mrtifter Christofor Hatton, Esquier," by 
Ludnwick*.* Lloide. Can any one infonu me aa t» 
the author, and whether the book is of anv value f 

N. P. 

" WiuTOKR' ROLES." — AmoDg tlio variotl* 
weatbcr-3ipn!« occurrinff in the first scene of 
Schiller's IVUhdm Tell we iind mentioned, »* * 
pTognoetic of the impending change of the weatbeft 
the circumstance, Und lait htr blmt es arns dtm 
H'fiterloi'hj which omen is based on the foUowlag 
passage in Scheuchzcr's Satur^jeschichte (vol, if, 
p. 12-J, &c.) :- 

" There are certain weather-holei or W!nd-bole«,i* 
cavenii and clefts which Atnnd to the inhahitanti of tiM 
Alps instead of taroineter*. When Ibo wind blowg cold 
from thurn the weather Euiy bo expected fine/ &;c. 

Kow, I hare Wen told by a literary friend 
mine that he believed he had heard of a simib 




id'bolc • nr ** we^-aluT-hole " existing near 

gap in Um Mil o( Malvern called the ** Wytche." 

Jouid ABj oi jonr Isamed corre^pondentj ^ive me 

soisM exact asd ^fimtc information on the subject 

In qoeatiiittf I dioald certain It consider it n great 

f«Tonr, C. A. hucjiUElu, 

CSolI^a^ London. 

Bzmor Jewel's ** Seven Gouley Sermons," 
16117. — ^In th« irorht of Bishop Jewel, piibliahed 
by ibe Parker .Society, vol ii. p. h 46, is a state- 
auot. to tli« efifect that the editor hud never been 
ih}e to njt«t with the stiiall Svo. 16<)7 original 
edition cf Sfv^n Godly and Learned Sermom 
prmehtd h*/ John Jufl^ Buhop of SaJuhnntf never 
\^ort Imyrintulf but had rcpuldished them from 
t£etvo foIioA of 1609 and 1611. As I huve un 
itn|i(Tfeet copy of tliis mre little volume, I slmll be 
ttttds oUigea if any one can inform me where 
i(iioik«r copy is preserved, so that I am collate my 
own with it. The title-piige and first five or six 
\am of the epistte are missing, but the seven 
■re complete. The epi&tle ia signed, 
GfnicFs] most bound en at com. I. K." 
1. K. ? There ia in this epistle the use 
iTASOj "Gathered up in hugger muyger^ or 
obliuioo,'' which ia worth making * cote 
presume there is no copy of this volunie 
*»jTnnri4 in the British Museum, Bodleian or 
Libnmw, other^-ise the editor of 
'a works would have made use of it. 
J. P. Eabwaker. 
iiUmky Edge, Cheihire. 

•Tre AscTENT MAHiyER."— Will any render of 

[lf.fcQ,** kindly furnish me with u copy of the 

(the eleventh of the third part) excluded 

C&lerid^e firom the Ancitnt Mariner f The 

^ mp Mr. Swinhume, in his essay on f .ole' 

^1^ describeB the Death-mate of the .Spectre- 

*'lii« bones foul with leprous ecurf and 

iption of the ^rave, in coDtrast to the 

and yellow locka of the fcArfulIer night- 

fe-iiiAieath.'' Alfred Jewell. 

Pile Faiult or Bhat, B^ri9, — Where did 

thk (\m\]^ romp from? The nnme first occurs in 

r books in 1735, but I urn of 

-ettled there some time previou?^ 

There were also at thnt time others 

ndsor and Eton, but they do not ap- 

4 J iuk\ti been connected. I find no pedi^Tee 

this particular family. Any information re- 

t|i8etiiig their history previous to the date nien- 

tion«l, or hintij for searching, will be valued. 

L. J. A. Pile. 

PAamRAr. Sris-r at T)nj,^ inr BrTTTANT. — In 

vUttiig I at I>ol last summer, 

I O&im' , ,. gilded pastoral stat!' 

1M placed erect behind the high altar of this most 



interesting church. On inquiry I found that ray 
^apposition, that this was so placed ns a memoriul 
of the time when Dol was a bishopric, and th« 
church a cathedrjil, was correct. Can any of the 
readers of " N. & Q." say if they have obser^'ed 
instunce^ of a similar custom elsewhere ? In the 
couri:=:e of ray wanderings I have been in churcheH 
which have lost the cathedral dignity, but have 
never noticed sucii an indication that they once 
possessed it, J, Woodward. 

" The CtJTisE or Kfrkstall Abbey." — Con 
yon f.nve m^ an abstnict of the legend of the 
''Curse of Kirkatall Abbey,** or tell me where J 
can find it ? Can you also explain the meaning of 
the words, " Sire, si come ce fufc, voir ayez pitic 
de nous " 1 They occur at the end of every peti- 
tion in a MS. Prayer Book of the thirteenth 
centuiy. Wilfrid or Galwat. 


LEFT OF them/' &c. — W.ts this the position 
of the Russian artiller)' ? If so, each aide must 
have been in danger from its own comrades. 
Faulconbridge speaks of such a blunder :— 
"O prudent difctpUne ! From north to (touth : 
Austria and France Bhoot in each ather's mouth."^ 

George Ellis. 
St. John'i Wood. 

+ Ryecharde Bknetley, Bell-fotn'dder. — 
On the third bell of Sealon Church, Rutland, is 
this name, in large Gothic capitivl letters, placed 
backw.nrds. When and where did he live ? Is his 
name known to any bell-hunting corresjiondent ? 

Thomas North. 
The Bank, LeioeBt«r. 

The Court or Hroti CoMMrsgioir for Caitssb 
Ecclesiastical. ^Where are the Court records 
preserved 1 Axoir. 

I. O. U. — When did this phonetic mode of 
writing oneself down a debtor first become general t 

St. Swithin. 


(5°^ S. iv, 449, 513.) 
The replies of Prof. Attwell nnd Mr., Fknton 
to the inquiry of T. C. U. on this subject are in 
the main correct, but they require a little farther 
explanation to make thera complete. The table 
given by Prof. Attwell — principany from Max 
MiiHer— is unneoessarily complicated, Grimm 'g 
original form^ as given in vol. i. p. 584 of his 
Deutsche GramTnatikf la much simpler, and em- 
braces all which it is really necessary to know. 
It is M follows :— 


f5»*S, V. Jaf.2$/7«, 

Orcfk. tioMi. l»ld (:«r. Gj-#elc. G4tb. Old fier. Cnak. 0<>(lt. I'UlGer. 

P P I1(V) T TH D K H O 

B P F r> T Z G K CU 

F B P Ttl D T Ce O K 

Til© Greek diviaion includes the Sanskrit, Latin, 
ftud tbeir derivAtives. The Gothic tncliides the 
Low German, Enirlish^ and Norao. The High 
German includes none but its own dialecta. 

If we further note that the Celtic and Slavonic 
Iftn^uafjes getieraily ftdlow thii Greek division in 
their consonantal permutfttions, wn shall have a 
tolenibly coniprthensive view of the relatii>iia of 
the Arytvn ton^iiej* m this single aspect. 

It is possiMe, however, to siDiplify the matter 
still more. The division, it will be aeen, is r tri- 
partite one, and the chanf^ea always follow in the 
fiame order — tenuis, aipirate^ medial — if we take 
them in the sequence of Greek, G<^jthic, Old Ger- 
man. If we then dtHW two triangles tlma^ — 
T6nui«. Greek. 

Mcdiid. ABpirate. O.Il.G. Gotliie. 

and fix the one over the other, ao that it cah turn 
by a pin in the centre, if the Greek point, which 
now corresponds with the tenuis, be turned to the 
uspimte, the Gothic will stand at the medial, and 
the Old High German at Ibe ten^uis, imd fto with 
the otherc. 

I have a further word to say in reference to the 
eight colutans of illustrations given by Prof. Att- 
WELL. Some of the instances are incorrect, and 
others are understated in consequence of not 
giving the enrliegt forma of the worda. 

In col 1 kinha is given a» Simakrit for honi. 
It may be tny miHtortune, but I have oot met with 
the word. It is not to be found in the dictionaries 
of Bopp, Benfej, Wilson, or Williams. The uiual 
word for horn is "sVitigam." This column of words 
Bhow.*! that Grinini'* law is not without exceptions. 
Iq the guttiinil permutations the Gothic A usually 
replaces the classical tennis k, flnd this is common 
both to the High and Low German dialects. 

In col. 2 Sanskrit jdti is given as the equivalent 
for Latin gen-nSj SiC. As it stands without ex- 

f>!anation, this would seem an exception to Grimm's 
aw, as j is not a guttural but a palatal Iptter, 
Properly understood, however, it aHbrds strong 
confirmation to the principle. Jtiti is a derivative 
from j<t«, to beget, which is only a degraded form 
of the original Aryan root <jan (see Fick, sub ro<-,). 
This re«tcr©8 the illustration to its proper place in 
the series. Kum, I presume, is a mist:ike for 
Gothic kuni. Kind is given as the High German 
equivalent, which, unexplained, would appear to 

mditate against the law it is intended to illn 

The fact is, in this case the modern Hi^'h i> 

k is a corruption of the original aspirate ch. JM ^ 

very word wiH be found in the form of ehunni h 

the High Germnn or Theotisc of the eighth oetk* 


In col. 3 High German gestem seems to c( 
vene Grimm's law, which would require a 
instead of a medial for the initial. TurningJ 
our Old High German authorities, we find 
original form of gestent to be kesteni^ in 
shape it will be found in MSS. both of the 
and eleventh centuriea.t Our yattrday ia 
cormption of A.-S. getlran-dccg^ correapont 
Gothic gisira. 

Col. 4 provides no Greek equivalent for Sai 
ian-u. This will he found m Ttn'w, tci'os, 
veyinjf the idea of thinness by stretching 
There must be some mistake about Gothic di 
There is no such word in Gabelenz and Lcebe, 
in Mr. Skeat's useful glossary. If there wi 
would contradict entirely the uau&l appli( 
Grimm's law. Tho corresponding word in 
ia thinnait^ exactly correlative with our wot 
which precisely fulfils the conditions require* 

Col. 6 is quite correct in the instances addm 

Col. 6 may lead to error. Greek thura 
High German Ihur aro«o much alike in ap 
that it might naturaLly be supposed the 
initial ih was common to both. It ia not 
ever. How it came about I will not stop i 
quire, but the fact ia, such High German woi 
thia\ ihuTy tkalf are quite modern in their pi 
form. They were originally spelt for, tura^ 
thus taking their place with the initial tenuisi 
required by Grimm's law. In the case of SanA) 
dwar^ Gothic t^j'f, English door, there is an 
maly, which is cleared up when we find that 
original Aryy^n form was dhvar-a (see Fick), wl 
restores the aspirate initial, and places the ' 
side by side with its trreek and Latin sisttrs. 

CoL 7 iH correct, with this remark, that in 
early Aryan dialects the dilference between 
sound of r and I appears to have been slij 
Sanskrit pur-Na^pul-oa, and by metatbw*i« 
easily connected with ple-oi and pL-nus, 

Col 8 ia liable to the same observation as 
fore, that, for want of adopting the early form 
the High German equivalent, the influence 
Grimm's law appears much weaker than it rt 
is. The mntJero High German bruder was 
ginally prodtir^ pruodar^ as is proved from Mi 
of the eighth and tenth centuries, thus rcstori 
the consisteDcy and historical valae of the princi 
laid down. 

Prof. Attwell will, I am sure, be glad to 
that the evidence for the uniformity of Griuii 

* S«e Graff, AUhorhiitHifchfr Sjimchtchtitt, and Scl 
t©r*s Coftecitons of Old Hiyh Cfeiinan DpcumtHtt, pa$»l 
f iwc Gr»jff, Ht iMpra. 

!»». », 7t] 



reftlitj nQch stronger tlian is net out ia 

L J. A. PlCTON* 

VDt0crrLi. (5«* S. IT, 489 ; v, la)— Of the 

r dialects enumerated in the A Has 

by Balbi, viz., the Oui^hour 

♦ii (2)' the Kabjak or Ktpchak (3), 

(4), the Turkoman (5), the Ciiucaao- 

(0i» the AustrO'Siberian (7), the Ya- 

Tchiiwach (9), the OsDiinli (10), the last 

: kable for it« regularity, precision, 

■^ considered to be the richest and 

. a ad a compound of the ancient 

Jaj^tai, the latter bearing the same 

former na English t^ Saxon. '* La 

Ittgures/' according to William de 

le envoy of St» Louis (IX.), '^est 

gue« turkes." 

nth century, during a period of fifty 

Ki^i, a hnLDcli of the Turkan Chagtai 

tiiHe, established a camp of 400 tents or 

j>l •►«ininli dialect, at Sargut, on 

of ' . ^ r, situate near the frontier of 

Em p lit', 1 Heir chieftain, Athnion (whose 

n&tne baa been softened into 0th man or 

tnscnted to engage in a holy war 

k; in auxiliary to Ala-Rddeen, the 

l« f Iconiuni (Coniidi)^ in Natalia, 

» soldiers of the true faith (Muj- 

, .. . ,.Lm through the unguarded paasea 

t OlytnpUA into the fertile plains of 

A.D- 128S, A.H. G87. Signal success 

hta onward march, and Ala-addeen, in 

n of the decwive victories achieved over 

a» conferred on Othnian the rank of Beg 

of the Turku, and the surname of Ghazi 

and, as s<ion as he had gained a firm 

tn the tt^rritory of Nicometlia (July 27, 

; A.H. 6I>9), ennobled him further by the 

iitle of sultan of a province which to this 

the name of Othmanjik Vilaieti. Like 

ftcearurs, Othiuan encouraged litefature 

ef leArr)in^% and his last words to hia son 

H>. 1320, A.n. 727), '* Bo thou a defender 

, and a protector of the liberal arts and 

were religiously observed by his auc-< 

the conquest of Bruaa (a.D. 1326» a.h. 

ch eoon a^ume<l the aspect of a Moham> 

pital, by the royal foundation and endow- 

Ea moaque, a college, and schools. The 
t\\] pr'»fe**ors of human and divine know- 
)»f cd thither, and students even 

f^ \rftbiA congregated to cultivate 

and literature, and the 
tntinued to be zealously 
I H niiiiTig interruption) through 
reigna of Moar^d (Amurath I.), 
j^«tX Mohammed L, Amurath II,, to 

the time of Mohammed IL, the conqueror of the 
Byzantine Empire (a.d» 1453, A.H. 658), 

"Avantet depuii cette cpoque" (i.D. 14 ^i-l). observes 
Ainedee Jaubcrtj, tLo celebrated Oripiitalist, my friend 
and master, "la langiie turke, qui est un dialecta du 
tartare, a'cit accrue d'un ^nind nombro d'expressiona 
tiroes de Vara-be et du p«r8aii, quo la religion musulmano, 
las bcioioi du commerce ct lea gucrres frtquentes des 
Turka en Asie j ont introduites ; et a re^u, Bans lea 
dennturer, toui lea mots Strangers desttnvs k repr^enter 
del iilccM nouvcHes ...... d'ou il soit que, pour parlor et 

Burttiut fhocir 4^cr'tre correetement le turk, il ett k pott 
prH indifpenaabto d'avoir d'abord pria qnetqno teiuturo 
du penan, et particttlicremerit de I'arabe. En efTet, c'eat 
des Arabes que let Turki ont emprunte leurd coracteres 
d ccriture, leur 8j«t^m« de Dumera(it)ii, toun les mots qui 
expriment dea idees abslraites, tooralea ou religietifes, et 
ioua ceux qui Bont relatifa aux iciences, aux lettres, et 
aux aria; nomenclature trei etenduc." 

According to Sir William Jones, the Turkish 
consists of ten Arabic or Persian words for one 
originally Scythian (Tatar), but the Arabic greatly 
preponderates, c.^., of thirteen words, seven are 
Anibic and two Persian ; of fourteen words, nine 
Ariibic and two Persian. In recapitulating the 
distinctive character of these languages, this ac- 
complished scholar states that — 

'* The Persian is remarkable for iweetncM, the Arabic 
ia distintniiahed for coploitanesa and strenji^th, and tbe 
Turkiah has an admirable gravity (niiriim hitbet j^ravita- 
tero)— the firat allures nnd driig'litft, the second is ener- 
luetic, and formed far eublimitj, whi!e the third poaieaMS 
elevation combined wiib a certain gracefulness and 
beauty: tbe Paraiao, therefore, is tit for jojoua and, 
amatory subject*, the Arabic for poetry nnd eloquence, 
and tbe Turkieb for moral writings. '* 

If you ask a Persian the nature of his language, 
be will say it is sweet and melodious ; Arabic^no 
would add, u tht rooi, Turkiih sciaicf, Pernan 
su^av; and a native of the upper provinces of India 
would tell you Hindxtittbii is salt, 

" Arabiy asl ast, Turki hunar aat, 
Pan! ahakar ast, Hindi namnk ast." 

William Pl,\tt. 
115, Piccadilly. 

Milton's Forestry (5*** S. v. 43,) — Mr. Wal- 
ker might have carried a little fiirther hb remark* 
in defence of Milton. In the tpiotation, — 
" Arched walks of twilight RroteSi 

And sbadowa brown that Silvan loves 

Of pine or monumental oak," 
— Mr. Menzies creates what confusion there may be 
by omitting the comma after *' groves." Milton 
does not connect the '* arched walks," but only 
the "shadows brown," with the oak and pine. 
The objection to " brown " ia^poor hypercTitieism : 

• "SnaTitatcm Persica, ubertatem ac vim Arabica, 
mirificam babet Turcica dignitatem : prima allieit atqua 
delectatp altera aublimiCiSTehitur. et fertiar quodammodo 
incilatii'is, tertta elata est sane, »ed iioo sine aliquu 
ele^atitia et pulcbritudine. Ad lusua igitur et amores 
cermo Ferticua, ad pocmata et eloquent! qui Ambicus, ad 
moralia acripta Turcicus vidotur id.tncus.' — Vol. ii. 
p. 36(1 



[S"* s, 

compare " lianileU brown " in Collins s Evening. 
Brown is a prevnlent twilight ct>Ioui% Pinps and 
oaks will <:rovv together : but Milton's words do 
not imply Uiiit they do. He mys tlint Silvan 
loves the l.irowu sUudovrd of pine or oak. If 1 nm 
asked by a t^ivern waiter wluit I M-unt for tlmntr, 
and reply, '*Beef or nmtton/* mm I loexptct both i 
Not, siirdy, unless he ts n Miltonic critic^" No 
vaittTy but, a Kni;;^lit Tem|)l:ir." 

I have not read ^Ir. Kcightley on Milton, for T 
prefer poetry to coranientary thereon j and I 
think his in^renioua explanation of" monumental" 
does not befit Milton's simplicity, though in cer- 
tain in^idcrn ports the idea avollM be natural 
enougrh. Long duration, which is the design of a 
monument, is the hubit of the oak ; hence monu- 
mental fith the tree perfectly. 

" Excgi monumentam cere perenniui/* 
says Horat-e. It- seems unnecessary to suggest 
that Milton meant the holm-oak (which doohtlesa 
he saw in Italy), since our English oak, a far 
nobler tice, attains on immense age. I believe 
Glendower's oak, near Slirewsbury, stOl puts out 
freah foliage in the spring— a monument of a 
battle fouj,'ht near fire centuries ago. 

If "L'lm starproof " be not tme to nature, then 
am I gro'slj ignorant of trcea, Mr, Menzies 
seems unaware that the elm h a heavy foliaged 
tree ; in many a twilight stroll beneath elms I 
have noted the accurarj' of Milton':* epithet, which 
has a special beauty becauf-o it iiuirky the hour. 
Indeed, in the radiance of a summer noon, I have 
found the elm sunproof, There are elma and 
eliiiK. Botanists catalogue above sixty varieties ; 
doubtless there is a difference between the shadows 
of ulmiis parrifoUa ami ultnuR lati/aUa, 

Forked lightning will Gtrike a tree as Mr. Jlen- 
zie3 describes ; but treejs growing on a hitjh level 
are frequently stnick at the summit by the hbeet 
lightning, which paiises from cloud to clouds Mil- 
ton's '* ssinged top " is quite defensible. To assert 
that lightning never singea the top of the oak U 
rather daring. So wide a negative is difficult 
to prove. I have seen trees of several kinils 
singed by lightning in most capricious ways. It 
mny perhaps bo found that a great poet sometimes 
observes more widely than a professional forester. 
Mortimer Oolliks, 

Knowl Hill, Berks. 

In the passage quoted from Mt. Menziieis's work 
on Fornt Trees, <S:c., it ia said, '" The elm is one of 
the ^ inn est foliaged trees of the forest." Is this 
so ? It would ill beooine one who waij born, and 
has chielly lived, almost within the sound of Bow 
bell:*, to set hia ofiinion against thot of a person of 
such great tree knowledge as Mr. Menziea ; but I 
have freqi^ently heard that the elm h the best 
tree to nfford shelter during a shower, owing to 
the circunistu.nce that the leaves, thounh suitdL 

are numerous and remarkably cot 
would (piite justify Milton in speakii 

" The shftdj root 
Of bnuichlDg elm stairproafi 

Audatial Ordination (5*^ S! 1 
the second Council of Nice (Actio viii 
belli in the year 787, the power w 
abbots of conferring minor order* 
own monasteries, on the conditionJ 
they themselves were presbyters. 1$ 
mentions readers, but Martene {D§i 
Kit., vol ii. p. 12, fob, 1798, VeneLJ 
upon it, says ; — ^ 

"Hano potcstntem hactenna conflefil 
plurimi, non solum rigora hujiu canoiif 
insupcr a aedo apostolica privileRiis, qt 
mitioreititie ordinea oonferondi facultitf 
Qun? qaldom privilegiA ititegm et iuviol 
tanxit synoJuii Tridantina,'* 

To tliis power, many abbots Btilli 
only on the authority of the canoi 
idleged grants from the Apostolic I 
they were empowered to give the t( 
confer minor orders ; all which pi 
secured to them, whole and invic 
Council of Trent, He tells us, in 
an abbot «if the Cistercian Order had s 
who, with four other abbots of the Sfl 
of the first nmk, could ordain d^ 
deacons ; which privilege, he oq 
granted them by Pope lunocent 
year 149!+, ia order that they who 
conic de:icons or subdeacons might 
to Reek ordination outside their mon 

Nothing ie said of mitred abfio 
appear that, in matters of this ki 
''powem 8U|jerior to thcii* less exal 
Their superiority was rather of a 
ecclesiastical kind. They were pri 
in the House of Peers, Acrordin; 
their origin was later than the cot 
abbots were euipowered to ordain, ff 
no mention is made of this in the ol 
(vol. ii. p. 14G). Edmcnd 

" I have done with thii aubjcct of mitr 
wc linve obuerved tliat they were callfd ' 
ottai * nbbota lOTcrei^n/ ai acknowled] 
auperinr, becaiwe exempted from the jar 
dlnc^aan^ t) living^ epigccrpal pnwer in thi 
let's L'tixtrch Ilitiori(, Tol, ii. bic, vi. «cct. 
nian in OioMtnrto, verlo ** Altbaa." 

Abbots can only confer minor 
deacons, deacons, and priests m« 
by a bishop. (See Bissus, Hurui*gi 

G. E. L. was rightly informed 
above. Abhotsi have the i>oweF 




IrfHiftor, D(4iigi^fi^g^ on their own subjects by 
LtmaorwlBitleBdifpeiiscd by Rome. 

c. a p. 

^^ ^ns Peirsox (b^ S, t. 67.)~A 

^^'^jj™"* ^" Jersey inquires whether any 

^*^^^^^ihe(um[j of Major Pelrson (whom he 

•*»"'**BJj|iBhriDi,'. He was very young and 

oiwa»T»j»iifn i,e w^is killed. He left si^ttr^, 

».*' *»t>il!#T^ One of these sistera was the 

of m late wife. Lady Chelmsford, and of 

*J*J«r, file only members of the Petrson 

" bo»D to me to ]>e liyin^ are my children, 

n, and fjireat-gmndchildrcrn, and the 

iwigRmdchildren of my late sister-in-law. 


u the eldest son of Francis Peirson, Esq., 

jwthorp^ CO. York, by Sarah, daurjhter and 

of John Cojrdell of Beverley. They had 

' ttone of whom left issue, and (ivc sur- 

tbters. 1. Sarahj married Timothy 

2. Frances, married Wm. Tinlingj 

eldest daiirrhtcr, Anna Maria, married, 

Frederic Thesiger, Esq., ereiited Baron 

d, l!^58; two other datirrhtera, :i 

married Rev. George Marwo^>d ; liatl 

Mary, maiTied Rev. C. Webber, after- 

Archdeacon of Chichester ; hud issue. 5, 

married Arthur Anstey, E«q. Thus. 

e speciiil loan exhibition of portrait minia- 

ield at the South Kensin^oti Museum in 

tion of miniatures of M.ajor Peirson, 

members of his family, was lent by 

iMjTy (s^e catdogiie, p. 43;. M. M. 

Taph r» Cash EL Cathbdbal f5i»» S. v. 27.) 

», in hia edition of Ware's Buhopjt^ p. 483, 

>me interesting details about Miler Ma- 

[alitu MucCmgh. He was a special favourite 

Q Eli»beth, who heaped ijromotiona upon 

^ Ifl addition to C'?whel, he neld by commen- 

II Ihe aee.! of Lismore aud Wuterff^rd, which 

"d in 1607 for those of Killala and 

;tnd, besides the biahoprica, there were 

> hiiu in the same man tier the vicamge 

dlan, and the rectory Infra dn on pontes 

U1.I eae of Elphin ; the rectories of Ciwllo 

and Skrine, in the diocese of Ktlhda -, and 

bend of Dougheme, with the rectory of 

in the diocese of Achonry. He died in 

622, in the one hundrelh year of hi* aj,'e. 

nt which he erected for himself in the 

opposite that of £dmund Butler, ia thus 


ri I* pT^!»cf:rl nn • high basil on the fouth fide of the 

he cpiicapnl throne and the nitar ; on 

J cue in Rtone in hi^fb relief; hit mitre 

iw, HM'i Uij pMtorAl itafT lu hta hft^nd : on one 

Hide of th« h«»d is CArred the linage of an angel ; as tho 
like waa once on the other ildc, k«ut if now (1739) de- 
faced. Above bit head arc hh arm? ; and at his feet 
the image of Christ on the Crojj^, <»n tbe top whereof tf 
inscribed 1. N.K.I. At UU rijibt elbow i9 the iraa^ of St. 
Patrick slightly engrared. with ht« panorsl utafT and 
mitre, on the one aide S. on the other P. UDdemoRth, 
on the verge of the monument, 19 cut the name of tho 
architect, * i'atriciua Kcjirin fecerat illud opus.' " 

Then follows the Latin epitaph composed by 
hmiself, witli the readinjx sed instead of ncc, in the 
ninth line, as already noticed, and is rendered into 
English thus : — 
" Patrick, tho glory of our isle and gown, 

Firat sat a bishop in the «ee of Down ; 

I wish that I, Rucceeding: htm in placa 

As bishop, had an equal share of grace. 

I served thee, England, fifty years in jan, 

And p!en.*ed thy princes in the mSJut of wars ; 

Here where 1 'ni placed 1 'm not ; and thus the case ia 

I'm not in both, yet am in both the places. 

" The Romaniati of that country have a tradition that 
he diad a Papist and that though in appearance he waa 
buried in the cathedral, yet that he bad given private 
orders for depositing his body elsewhere : to which ihay 
say the two last lines of the epitaph allude. But, al- 
though he was no good man. and bad impoverished bii 
see by stripping it of much of its ancient ostete, yet I 
do not fiu'l ojiy room to ca>ll his sincorifcy, as |o his re- 
ligious professtion, in question, living or dying* These 
lines rather seem to hint at tho*; existeooeof the 
soul and body/' 

B. E. N. 

** NoN EST VILE coRprs,'' &c. (n**^ S. iv. :j13.)— 
The anecdote is trdd of the learned Mark Anthony 
Muretus, and is thus related by Dr. Famir {The 
Wiinrsx 0/ Uistory ta CJirist^ p. 153): — 

"When travelling in the disgtiise of a bojrsar, tha 
scholar Mwr^tus had fallen sick in the hands of Birange 
physicians; they said jesttnirly to one another, 'Fiat 
experimentum m cor^ore vili ' ' Vilcinno aniniam 
appellas,' he indignnnUy rxcloiraed to his astoniRhed 
audit^ir* ; * Viloinne aniiiL-im appelks pro qui Chrietus 
non dcdignatus eit mori 1 ' " 

In the Life of Afnrdm, by Benci and Lazen, 
the accuracy of* this nnccdote has been called in 
question. The fact* will probably be found iitated 
in the Life prefixed to Rulmkenius's edition of the 
Opera Ontnm, I'KD, a copy of which, together 
with Muietus's Epistoltt^f la in the Chethana 

Your corregfKindent is no doubt fsimihar with 
an aoectlote of Archbishop Whateiy turning on 
the siinie word " v«k\" which, in our Bibles, 
Rt, James ii. '2 an.i Phil iii. 21, ia the .synonym of 
lowly. I quote the anecdote from the Rev. T. L. 
(K Uavies'fl recent adinimble book, entitled BihU 
EnglUh : Chnphr^i mt (Hd and Disused Exprusiont 
in the Anthariznl Vtrsion, &c,, 1875 (p. 178) :— 

"■Oor 'file body' (Phil. iii. 21) should bo rondored 
' the body of i»ur humiUation ' 1 rti ffi^fta tj)c Tairnvutautt^ 
Tl^Mi'']. When Archbishop Whatcly wits dying, one of 
his chaplains was reiidin^ thi* chapter to him in the 
EugUab veitiiim. When lie came to this pfc«*^age tho 
Archbiah'-p stopped him, faying, 'GiTe inc UU ««* 




wordi.' The cliftplftin ihen lubitltutcd the ahovfi more 
literal traxiBlatian, uid the tljing prelate observed, 'Tbbt 
ii right; nothing that Ht made is rile/ Xo doubt 
' Tile ' ii not ID this place a prood representation of the 
original. J*t, m we have Bhnwn, it did not once implj 
of necesaitj auch utt<r worthlewneis za it does now." 

John E. Bailet. 

The pRiNCEaa Sobieska (5* S. v. 9, 38.)— Mr. 
Ewdd, in the first voL of his Life and Tim^s of 
Frince Charts Stnnrt (Chapumn & fhdU IBTS), 
giveji an account q( the escjipe of the rnocess, the 
details of which vary considerably froHj those men- 
tioned by Mr, Hoggjird, who states that ahe was 
disguired in ''a male hiibit." Mr. Ewald's account 
is probably the more correct ooe, as he refers to 

Being on the Bubject of the Stimrt family, I 
would wish to call attention to the concluding 
passage of Mr. Ewald'a work : — 

" Thirty-one yeart after the death of th& Prince, 
George the Fourth, then Trince Ae^ent^ caused a atatelj 
Dionument, from the chisel of CanoTa, to ho erected 
und«T tbe dome of St, Peter's at Home. On a bas-relief, 
in white marble, are reprcnented tlie likeneaaea of Jamea, 
CharleSf and Ileury, witli this inacription ;— 

jACoao III., JAroor tl^ kaon. brit. %vmu pilio, 




A5M0 str»ctx:xix. 


The inscription must, of course, be well known. 
But ha^ it ever occurred to any one to inquire 
how it WiiB that JarneUj the Old Pretender, or the 
Chevalier St. George, is t^vico mentioned therein 
as James III, ? He could have h:id that title only 
as Kingof (ireat Britntn ; and if he pos.^e&5ed that 
title rightfully, the Prince Regent would never 
JiATe been George IV. T. J. A., olim CCC.X J. 

[Mr. Ewald'a account of the Princeaa Sobieeka'* 
esciLpe 19 biued upon the n:irrntiy{' which is attributed to 
Wogan, %vho was one of the chief agenta. Accordinjj to 
the latter, the Priuccn* used only a cloak and hood. 
Zedlcr n73l») unys ahe fled in di^guiae, but does not stiitc 
of what it consisted—*' Jedoch, da man Termeynie sic am 
gewisacBtcn in haben.entflohe sie in TerfttelUerKleidunir." 
With regnrd to Cano»a'a ilatcly monument bearing th? 
Above inscription, Lord iMahi.n (Eurl Stttnhope), quuied 
in Morriiy'H JIundtooi of Jtomf, "believfii" it vrna 
erected diieifly at the expense of the House of Hanover, 
The author of the Uatitilwtk slatca that the cost wa-i 
paid ironn the privy purse nf George IV., who certainly 
waa not consulted as to the inscriptinn. In the crypt, 
where " James 111.'* and his sons, Chftrles Edward and 
Henry. Ii** buried, all three are etylcd kingi— Juiuca 11 L, 
Cbarlea III,, and Henry IX.] 

« Old Kino Colr" (5i«» S. iv. 67, 234.)-Albfln 
Butler writes, Life of St. Udm, Empran (Aug. 

•' Leiand, the most diligent aertrcher of our antiquities, 
•ays Helen w»s the only diiugbterof King Coilus, who 
liied in constant amity witb the Kninans. and li»^M of 
them his so»erei|fnty ; the Giaatonbury hiat'»ri>in ears 
the aame. Henry of Huntingdon tells ui that this rr\% 

the King Cocl who fint built the walls round the city 
of Colchester, and beautified it »o much that it derifti 
from him ifg name. Tbat town has for aereral afi* 
boft.«ted that it gare birth to the great empreas, and Uti 
inhabitantai. to testify their reneration for her mamoryi 
take for the arms of tha town, in remembrance of tot 
crosa which the diicorered, a knotty cross betwe«ii fov 
crowns, aa Caradeu takes notice." 

Fred. A. Wkld. 
Goremment IIouMj Hobart Town^ Taamania. 

Handel's Organs (5"* S. iv. 4G7.)— The organ ' 
presented by Handel to the Foundling hfts be«xi 
handled aa ft fondling. About four years since 
TtXi/. or BtX)/. were expended in order to enlazfd 
and improve the instruruent, so that the originaliQr 
is, perhapg, nearly improved out of it, and Handel 
gift nmy be likened to the patched coat of tht 
Irishman. Frbdic Bl7t& 

Tennyson: "The Prikcess": "Her 
TALKED down;* &a {^^ S. iv. 464.)— Tenn^ 
prol>;tl»ly refers to St, Catherine of Alcxi 
when be speaka of "Her that talked down 
fifty wisest men." We are fold tbat al 
argued iLiid converted fifty philosophers 
Miixentiu3 pitted against her. St. Swn 

"As coarse as Garashe" (6** S. it. 
Can the EuKliah proverb, " As coarse as 
come from this French fonn ? It is eomi 
.several parts of England, and about Notti 
I have often heard it 'VAa coarse as Hi 
gorae." ElL( 


Mktal Tobacco Pipes (S*** S. i 

39.)— Kingsley was not guilty. of a„ ;_j, 'Oi; 

in representing men of the time of Elizal 
smoking tobacco in silvtr pipea. Aubrey says: 

"He (Raleigh) was the first that brought tobacco 
EngJiind and into fashion. In one p»rt of North " 
(Malmesbury hundred) it came first into fa^himi t 
Wnlter Long, They hud first tifftr p>pis. Tlic ondii 
sort rtm ie u*a of a walnut shell and a straw. I 
heard my gntmlfnther Lyte say thait one pipe was hat 
from man to man round the tnble." 

Walter Kiriclako, 


The Trade of Tanning (5«» S. iv. 428 ; v, M.) 
"There may be added to the Hat of tnunera Joni 
than Martin, who burned York Minster, 

Eo. Marshali* 

Old London CiiURcnES {5"» S. iv. 449. >—l 
hapH the best book on the churche-S before the 
is iiitow's, and the best edition of Stow is 
edited by Strype. There are several chaptei 
the London churches in Knight's London. ' 
there arc a great luany monographs on cet 
churches, such as Deuluim on St. Dunstan's W 
Wilson on St. Laurence Pountney, &c. Brayh 
Hiitory of London la good for family readii 




But fi.r •li 

toy. -I' 
ft. - . 






iiLiii.-ir thill 


in-oKo perhaps Walter 

''on is M good as 

I lied with Rood re- 

- r' . \>oU, rendering what is 
' c. Taken for all in all, 

ici to rend up^tlie ftntitiuitiea 

hrdf'OHH.hutyet wonderfully 

(ii's Handbook ia a 

[ I sable, and almost 

u ilM WiiJiir i In iTuhxiry-^ Haunted 

1 Canningbam, I thiuk Mr. Has- 

1 find hia ptirpo»e ittUiined ; if not, 

Ije added, who baa written whole 

■'*' the C'urio*iiiM of London^ The 

rio7S the city and suburbs tibout 

- ., '-^tminater, by Walks and Talks, 

i4 by ttil manner of devices. 

T^!, with mil the literature that exists on the 

ViA^bo is so fruitful a theme that there is 

f room still for another book that should 

' ' iuni»» alt the existing booka, with 

, iecl indej^ and afterwards there 

■ifjti another volume or two of facts of 

: are vet unchronicled- 

C. A. Ward. 

^ :. TERN Magazine'' (5** S. it. 467.) 

I iH was a monthly of thirty pages, 

r ptiblbhed by Henry Grier, Beliaat, 

, Iboii, till February, 1853, thus com* 

ear* It was almost entirely a litemry 

:id during its short career attractCfl 

on. Tlie amateur authors, who chiefly 

to iti pages, gave it up after a year's 

I ,,,.-„ ,> their professional and busi- 

thcni from devoting to it 

,..x .u which a montlily serial re- 

I Pi were Mr. Robert Taylor, Mr. 

1 r, and Mr. Joseph John Murphy. 

rued gentleman died in India luany 

The other two are gentleiuen well 

^ < eniry and scientific circles in BelAtst, 

! ictive and interested in btUu httrts. 

Taylor was the practical editor. Be- 

or», sonie of the principal eontributors 

, bte -Karl of Belfast, Mr. F. D, Finlay, 

lae J. Murphv, Mr. Thomas 0'C4ormAD, 

L. Godkin, Mr. Alfred McFarlond, 

:aine contained a novel entitled "The 

J- of Oakwood/' which was written by 

i'-ert Taylor. The poetry was considered 

' ' • the average, and on the whole the 

liteniry point of view, remains one of 

.....I may feel rather proud. 

W. H. Patterson. 

Coat or Abms (&^ S. ir. 468.}— Gules, three 
»«tIetA or, a chief vaire, is the coat of Bay ley, of j 
Oxfonbliire, as engmved in the margin of the map ] 

in Dr. Plot's Nahiral Histonj of that cotinty. Dr. 
Giiidott, in hia Ducmiru of Bathe, kc, 167C, gives 
the same cout to Balph Bayly, ftLD., of Bath, 
who, he informs us, was a n[itiYe of Eerkshire. 
The dexter coat ia probably Aylworth, the mullet 
being a difference, H. S. G. 

"A TorcnsTojJE for Gold asd Silver 
Wares; or* a Mantal for GoLDf^MiTHS*' (.5*'* 
S. V. 9.)— Upon looking through the list of gold- 
smiths for the year 1G77, published in the Little 
London JHnctorif, and reprinted by J. C, Hotten 
in 18fJ3, are the following, under the head of B., 
uiuoEgst those goldsmiths who kept "running 
caHhes " :— 

Jobn Bolitho, at tlie Golden Lion, in Lumbard Street; 
John BAlloird, at tbo Unicorn, m Lumbcird Street; Job 
Hr>lton, ftt the I^ott and Tun, iii Lijmhhrd Street; 
* RiclmdJ HInncbardj nt ibe MarygtjM, in Fleet btreet. 

Although none of the above have the initial W,, 
still 1 tbtiught Mr, W, J. Green might like to 
know of them, as probably W. B. was connected 
with one of them. 

In addition to the above there w«s a William 
Baittnlie, of Mark L:(ne, who kept his cash with 
Alderman Edward Backwell, up to the time the 
latter failed in ltj72. Bnttalie's transactions with 
Buckwell would lead one to jiuppose he might 
hin-e been a goldsmith. F. G. Hiltok Price. 
Temple Bar. 

A Follower of the Stuarts (5"» S. v. 21.) — 
la the mime known of the person, nttttched to the 
exiled Htuarts, who was buried at Floicnre, and 
upon wh»mi the beautiful epitaph, quoted nt the 
above reference, was written by Lord ISIacaiUay ? 
Seargill, whose " whispering trees " are alluded to 
in it, is on the river Greta, in Yorkshire, not far 
from *' BrigTjall banks," and is mentioned by Sir 
Walter Scott, in Rohbtj^ m the place where Ber- 
tram hud the interview with, Guy Benzil : — 
" Jle BtAinls in Scftrgill wood eilone, 
2f or bears lie now a liarsher tone 
Than the hoarse cuBbat's plaintive cry. 
Or Oreta*8 fonnd that murmurs by j 
Ani) on the dale, ho lone acd wild, 
The lummer eun iu quiet amilcd." 

Canto Hi. stanza 3. 

Perhaps the epit^iph might have been written 
on an expatriated scion of the ancient Boman 
Catholic family of Witham of Llitfe, long resident 
in that northern part of Yorkshire, winch a* di- 
vided from Burhiim by the " lovelier Tees," for 
which the exile pined on the banks of the Arno. 
The present and last representative of the line, 
the Eev. Thomas Witham, now resides ut Lart- 
ington Hall, near Barnard Castle ; and amongst 
his vj^hmble collection of jwntiiigs is a very curious 
one, in oil", of old Lord Lovat, who was executed 
for the ^bare he took in the rebellion of 1745. 

* TLift flhuuld have been Hubert. 



[5*8. V.Jjut^ai," 

Tb' "' ' '^Uf And tho picture was found 

BO) a irnrrel at Cliffe Hiill» and re- 

tnOVt-ii ti'PJU i rn.ij'jr to Lfirtitl^OO. LiftingtOIl IS 

aUo in the county of York. 


H««rlKmrtie Rectory, WoodbrHlge, 

•'Thk PKAt'K Eoa " (ft"* S. ir, 511.)— In Lan- 
cafthire the oUi tnunitrier»' pl»y at SI. Go^tjt^ «j5 
dmcribeil l»y Mr, Cox, in ' i . rforijie<i ut 

EoAtcr^ ftriii U known .'M " ,'' und the 

pcrfaT»j<»rji are aiUed " fwicf'f^;:' i-. 

H. FiBHiritK, F.S.A. 

The confiwlnn ncenis to be due to t!ie fact that 
in Miil-Ltincrinhiro thr Triutiiiuerft tlo not t'O ubout 
at < I hut in PiiH«i.ju week, unJertbe natiic 

of *' . r*," t. (», l*ju^<|[ij€ epgere. Our people 

\\im\ tu patronize ihcm wlien we were children. 
They genorally »\\n\f n aong, and htvd some aword- 
pluy, iind luid the doctor, rhe old v. 
Th*y twe not niucli pntroiii/i'fl roiiv-, l'^ r 

to that »ort of thiii^* in Piti^iun week, vet ^ ^.. p^-. . iy. 

P. P. 

"InincA" on "Hilkptca" (S^i* S. v, nO-In 
th« iirticlc on " The Wi»c Wonmn of Winjf " {anU, 
p» 4), "iripica*' in naid to hiive bt*en brought from 
•JaiiMiicH, and thut its coui position w{i>j kept a pro- 
found Hocrvt. The " niysterious dnix" Ls the old 
nnd Well-known prepaj*ution called "hiem piem/' 
the wicred bitter, whiel) wjia a fx>wder consit^tinipf 
of one part of nioes nnd tlirep piirtni of cunpllii 
bark, two dnig« which ure imported from the West 

** inprjv ]Hcrii" \^ vulgarly pranonncod "hickry- 
pickry," and it i.^ ul?io known by the vid^^ar naine 
"pilbcnHby," which Kretu't Ui mcfiu " Jiiliiln? nocci;!'," 
of wbiob one of the inijrc^rlipnts was '* htem picra." 
See Fharmacnpaia dylUgii Tx^galU Mfihcomm 
Lotidinen$if^ folio, 1721, p. 95. A. 8. 

** Irapica" wiis doubtless conip- extract of colo- 
cynlhj wi'll known iinwn^ the poorer rlass (in 
Kent at Icunt) .-m '* hicrapi.-ni." P. W. J. 

Hats Woax at Mkals (r>'»' S. v. 27.) — D. G. E. 
irWci im instanco of this cnstoin nt the Clmrtor- 
honne in H52L', and inquires whttber it wtis u'^ijul 
to Bit ilown to nu^als covered. Mn .Samuol IVpvs's 
dinry far Hept. Si2, ICfM, is as toMowr : *' Floiue to 
l>cd ; bavin;; («^ut a Kt range cold in my bead, liy 
Hinj^in^ off my bat nt a dinner, sittinrr with the 
Mvlnd in my neck.'^ And Lord llraybrooke, in hi^ 
note on ibifi passage, refers to a statotueut in:ole 
by Jjnrd djirmdcin, in lu.^ cwsny on thff Thonf nf 
He^ttd }>^i\d to A(jf, in the I'UVot that when ynuni,' 
he never kept \m hat on befor«s his seniors, except 
ftt dinner. A« J. M. 

**ArKKn" (f.»h S. V. 03, note,)— Dr. CiTAwrE 
niika for infornitUion respecting the use of this 

worr], in the sense of h ineajttire of laxxtL 
iniraediftteiy after reading his query I came ttj 
the wor<l in a German horticulturul jourojil, 
it is explained that the English ac!re h 
aix>ut stven-tenths of a Saxon acktr. But 
pect the use of the word to desijniate a fixed 
of land is quite local, for 1 do not remember] 
met with it before, Morqtn being the U 
rally emphiyed. W. B, Hi 



(.^*^ aS. V. 48.)-The statement cited by 
the pe<iijrree of Mostyn of Talacre, Burked 
ntta^e^ 1^55. which has sug^^'ested his iiiqi 
mi.^print. Yorwerth Vychan ap Yorw 
ancestor of the Mostyn line, married 
daughter of Griffith ap Llewelyn, Prince 
Wales, and sister, not dau^jhter, of Llei 
Griffith, hist Prince of North Wales. By 
to the fa,mily of Trevor of Trevallyn (whi« 
<'oujn)on orifjin with that of Mi>9tyn\ uoder^ 
of Penpomprcn, Burke's Lnndtd (rentrff^ 1( 
will be seen that the wife of Yorwerth Vycl 
Yorwerth (Jam was Catht^rine^ daughter of Gi 
ap Llewelyn, Prince of North Wales. 

t^atbejine, daoj^hter of the kst Prince of N< 
Wales, Llewelyn ap GrifiRtb, ia stated by W| 
^eneaIor,d8t3 to have married Philip ap Ivor, ^ 
of Cardigan, and to have been by him mother l 
dauj^hter and heirtss, Eleonore, who, nun 
Thomaij ap Dewelyn, last Lcird of South 
hail an elder daujihtcr and co-heir, EJeoi 
mother, by her huKband Griffith Vyciian, 
Glyndwrdwy, of Onpn (jlyndwr, repre&eai 
paternally, of the Powysfnn s^vercigne. 

Sfon ap Gwyllim ap Si 


TnE DiK-siNKKns and Artists in Mf.dalS' 


IN Grkat Britain (n"* 8, iv. 449 : v. 65.)— 1 
are some scattered notices on this subject 
Bolzenthars i<kiszin zur KunstrfrachirJitt 
modemm MedailUn- Arbeit (1429-1840). 
184t». T, J. 

" Attornky " (6»»^ S, V. 8.)— I take the 
which Hic ET Ubique asks for to be this, whi< 
extract from Abp. Trench's Sdtct (Jlmmry : 
everlasting ntid only Hipb BLshop ; our onlyi 
tornoy, only mediator, only peacenuiker betwi 
God and man."— i4 *s7iort Ctihrhi.nn, \lf^i2. 
publication of this l» rebted in Collier's HUU 
v. 4;>7 ; but the author does not seem to be 
t,iinly known. I may add that this short catechii 
undt'r the title of Kinji^ Edward VL's, ia the firttl 
tide in Bishop Randolph's EfuJtiridioti Th(f*lt 
CTtm, where Hic et UniQUK'a passage will be fot 
on p. 16. The cjit^chism is nlso printed, botl 
Ku^jlish and L.ttin, in The Two Liturgiis 




•dit^d, for the PuTker Society, 
Rpr. J m tf ti Ketle>% where the ptuiiMi^re 
o «D pk di>4, and in Latin— the word 
** ^ToeaXva^—on p. 5r).X 

C. F. S. Wahrex, ma, 

iKLATVoirami* (5»» S. iv. 321), 415, 47fi, &22.)— 
atjnmhfp hf sfflnity id noL extended to co]- 
nl nJauoQs of tltu '* propositits," Thw?, tny 
idiliotr? ttr ^rrm^an^uinity are my relations 
iTc DO rdatiourt jit all to my 
Lral relatioDS, or (a /(frtiori) 

th^ case in question. My wife's 

n ^ - nephews and nieccB by 

I , and are finit couainn to 

; lnj; .uv> ...e no relations at all to 

and, a fortiori^ no rehitiona to Lis 

C. S. 

jjquMKXT Siiit.i.i!fo (5»** S. iv. 5()R,)— A ring 
HBbt of ti shilling from the offertory 13 ocea- 
^B naed in Herefordshire as a remedy for 
V T. W. Webb. 

m- ^' -• (J"' S. iv. 4*>8, 5<^r».)— It is 

vt: Mannfield'i* rea'^on for u!ioo»- 

'^ ' -i.^ title, and if he had any con- 

town. When William Murray, 

]»irr. uTirl a TOUn^rer flOU of \h' 

T'»6 to be made n l>!»rf>ii, 
) for his title because 
i^^ was c ii I that part of the 

■». She T, Ht r .»f the E;irl of Win- 

mi. He married in 173S. 
le Eiirl of Mansfield, with 
^iBiitx to Uls nephew. He ought to have 
PUS ftf htit title the name of some place in 
Kiboif : for family and local rea&on» Scone 
IdJ hare been suitable, f>>r local reasons Gowrie 
IqM bare I welt On this occaRJun he 

Wttd a «: Ic abgenee of proper national 

'''■•• ^ , LftriiiT the mistake in IV.'iG, he 

ityof correcting it in I77G, and 
..,.-.,„, .... r.rror. There is another instance 
tht §ame fault ; in 178(), Alexander Wedder- 
D, m native of East Lothian, wels made a baron, 
eho«e to \ie named Baron LoughborongU, of 
;rbboroa2^, in the county of Leicester. His 
' hat he had been member of Parlia- 
frtf that phvce or for fomo town near 
H| ] I'Jo he kid a new patent gntnted to liim 
^Pome aitenition as to the eucce^^ion), as 
ill I>3iighborough, of L4^»ii|;,d» borough, in the 
liijr of Surrey. In 1801 he waa to be mjide an 
" OQ t/iM occiision he hud the good tjuite 
proper amount of nationulity to take a 
f) hh own country : lie waa made 

o: TnOJLAS SxiiAlTOJf. 

"Thkbk was as ape," &c. (5*" S. W. 149, 21% 
275 ; V. 3ft.)— Siin^ly Kiy learned friend Mn. 
Berniiard Smith is a little unkind. I n»sert 
that apes have no toei?. Mr. Smith taken iho 
trriable to write to " N, <fc Q." to hold me up to 
your readers as piilty of a "mistak**," f't'c^mstA 
(says Mil. Smith) " these bcaats " fidthoutTh called 
quudruniana) huve *' hinder thumbs/' whith *• by 
courtesy " may be teriued toes. This may be very 
courteous to ** these beasts," l)ut it h very hard 
upon Middle Tuiii'LAn. 

"Ctvibm" (h^ a iv. 288, 472; v. 39,)-As 
rrcently fta \S^t7 there waa a Rev. James Sevier, 
Rector of Hfistield, neor Gloueester. A gentleman 
with the name of Sevier ia now Hvintj at Maise- 
more, near Gloucester. P. J. F. GASTiLL03f, 

The Charterhouse t Bravors (fj*** S, v, 27, 
rj«j.)— The word htavor or hcvtr did no?, juijunify 
ft drink, but a meal. Phillips (1 7^0) drir.nes it fta 
"u small coll:;tion betwixt dinner and supper," 
and Bailey (1737) adds to this defiuJrton, '*an 
afternoon luncheon," The 12th of I>ccember 
WIL9 kept «3 the founder's commeinonition day. 
The founder, Sutton, died December 12, 
IGU, and it wjia ordered that henceforth on that 
day there should be a special 5ervii*e, and that the 
inmates of the hospital should have extra <*ommons, 
as on all other fetjtival days. Edward Solly. 

The word htver^ m the sense of refreshment, 
would feera to have been in use until compant- 
tively recent date. It is i?o applicil hy John 
Thomas Smith in the following jnwsaye from 
Xolltki^ns and hi* Timf^: — 

'* lie (Tcncriiilr contriired to g«i throuj^h ilie tnudl 
•luiiititv ho nllowcd himsolf, ner«r thinking t*i kecpinu 
in>y portion of a ntlt or a pat of butter Nt ai»y one who 
iij'P^ht |>np in »t Ilia lii'fakfnflini; hour, or iw vk rp'crve for 
A fricnJ »i ft bever before diuasr."— VpI. i. \\. 75). 

The book was published in 1S28, and it must be 
inferred that the expreBsion, if not then comtnoni 
was not supposed to rcfpiire explanalion. 


In close accordance with the expression *'Dyeta 
and BeavoTs," a labouriufr man in Betifordshiro 
always usei^ the word hf/tKt or haver. It means 
*'«!;omeibinrr to eat and HlriDk"ahfivit eleven o'clock, 
Kimilar to our liincheow. If you inquire uh to 
wages, your man will reply that he h:u« *f> much 
a day and his }Mia\ T. W. K. 

See Thf PxtUic Schooh' Cakndar for 1866, 
p. 206, under " (IJharterhouac " :— 

" If ft boy wnnlf an Additionitl pit-ce of brem^b he ukf 
for n ' bearor' (hwero), ft bit taken with drink ; a term 
also in use at WinchcaUr.** 

P. J. l\ Gaktillox. 

GrpsiER : TiNKLKUH (fy^ S. ii. 421 ; iil 401) ; 
r. 52.)— The name ** Tinkler " as applied to Gipsiet, 




in fr^quenllv mentioned in A Ilittorff &f the 
ftilttiti, by fr^ilter Bimson, edited by Jflnies Sim- 
son, published in WG5 by SaJiipaon Loyr & Co,, 
London J and Men/.ies, Edinbur^fh. Thi:? work, 
575 puges, containit a most interesting collection 
of fiicta relating to the Scotch Gipsies. There is 
much evidence of patient reaenreh and truthful 
jnvc.^tipation, hut little practioal knowledge of 
Gi]jsy inner life and every- day poenes of their 
ttnted wanderings. The Scotch Giiiaica are often 
niedtioaed by the author ns TioklcM and Horners, 
fmni thoir occupation, just as niany En*,dish Gipaica 
are en lied Tinkers. Tbe word only means a par- 
ticulEir craft, not a race of people. There ia no 
Knmany word that I ever heard from which Tinliler 
could be derived. The intcreatinp proof of the 
early mention of the naiuc seven huivlred years 
back sliowB that the occupM ion of tinkler or tin- 
smith wus an Jincicnt craft, bnt nf fords no nroof 
that Cipfliea were then to be found in Siotland. 
Tt Wfjuhl i*eciu thnt <iipsie&, after their arrival in 
Ericniland, about luUfi, followed, nuionfT<;t other oc- 
cu]):tlion3 best suited to a wandering life, the tin- 
amitira crsift, which has in many other conn trios 
been with Gij^iic? ft favourite nieana of Kaininj;T a 
^ubjii^tence. In 1S74 I visited bouic Hun^Mrian 
Cii]i*.icK !it their camp in Norway^ and they were 
following' the occupation of tinklers. 

HuitERT Smith. 


48, 7f'.)— See p. U.'i of Vuriaiitics ofLtynthiij 185r>, 
by the hi to John Tirnha, for n deffmption of the 
purisb church of ^t. Mary 3Iaydalcne, liennond- 

*' A^mna thi} commtmian plate ii an ancient eilrer 
iiilver, aupiiD>4eii1 to 1i«to belfiHt'^d to tbe Alibey of Jler- 
mofiilflty: in th& centra, & kniRht in plftte arnioiir ii 
Iinncliii^ to H fctnnle about tn p1ic« a. helmet on h\>* bead, 
at this i^le or & ciutl<* or rortilifid t&wn ; fi^om the fuhion 
of tbe^ iirmonr ntid tb^ form of I.tie helmet tbii r^lic is 
referred to the u^ t^f Edward II." 

In thi^ alum dish »tiU used 3 

C. WoTiiERaroo». 

Ivr : IvvT : TvfiRT (5** S. iv. 488-}— A farm 
labourer, native of Kottingbamflhire, long^ resident 
in Lincolnshire, generally speaka of it a.* 'Mhe 
green l-vo-ry" J, BsiLE. 

HKRALnic (5*^ S. V, 9, 54,)— In the Onthiringt 
of Ojr/onMir*', collected by Bi chard Lee in 1574, 
contained in the fifth volume of the pu hi i cations 
of the Harleian Society, At p. 0, the am; a A, E, L, L. 
inquire!.'* about are attributed to the family of San- 
chet :~ 

" In Samlerte Home. 

" Quarter J J of ijii. 1 . Burry nabuk^ of six or End a. 
[Blount]. 'L Or, a oaatte «. [Sanehell. 3. Valree arg. 
and ax. [Beauchmmp of Hachel. 4. Two woItm piiaant 
wUhia a treiaure fleurle (imtiDcturcdj [Jah, d§ Ajltde 

Ili9|>aniaJ. 5. Sa. ft pal* mrg. [Jo, de Js Fordt^ $, Ckp 
a erejboiind Baliftnt^ parted pn p^« n. uid kqp. [Jo. ii 
]a Ford in com. Bucki^ inipaluig, Quarter] j 1 ukd i 
At. on a cmts between fonr do^ei arg;. Atc tortauii ft^ 
eacli chaTf^d with a atu* arg. [Liatarji. S »Dd 3. Gi. 
temC'fl of crciirentB or, a lion raajpant mrg. [Lialer]. 

" Over it wntlan R. Bloimt k K. LUter.'* 

The editor adds a note i — 

** Tbe names Attached to the ooAta mv princrpiilf 
tall en from Wood's nntei, nude wbcm h« Tijitcd Sarrifl 
Home, Feb, 2S, 18T5." 


Belt^-Frogs in England {6"» S. it. 486.>- 
No doubt the clear bet I -like nooB heard by De 
GoRnoN proceeded from theNiitteij&cIc Toad {B^ 
cnlnmita). I know from perAOQid Qb«enrati<m tv 
this species abounds ao near to Olapham m Ikam 
Common. It h a for hundaomer and more attZB' 
tlve-looking nnintal than the common toad, udii^ 
croaking is just as described by Dr, Goudoit. 

W. fi. TAfi 

Blandford Bt ^lary, Doivei 

Mkdallic (C* S. it. 487.)— Although the ms&i 
to which I alluded appeared to answer bo veHto 
the description of that mentioned bj O'Bnditi 
iio&i authority has since pronounced it Ui l>e tf 
tho pixteenth century, and stated that & Mdi- 
scriptinn of it IB giFen in Kohler'e Mum Bdi^ 
puis J Nurembeii^^ L734, voL vL p. a&3. 

Ralph N. Jamu 

Aihford, Kent. 

CixHrva Ch&skorvm.—ThMcydida^ I II. -IV. K- 
ited, with English Notes, by G. A. Simcoi,MJ< 
Taciii Ilisl&rur, I.-IL Edited, with EasB 
Notes and Introduction, by W, H. Simcox, MJ- 
T£T€ufii A ndria. Edited by T, L. PftpiUon, MX 
New Edition, with an Introduction on Ptm^ 
We have here several vftluable inatflluient- 
upeful Borics of the ClassJCT coiomeQced ur..% : -^ 
jrtint supervision of Mr. Holmes und Mr. Big^M^ 
which baa from tbe first cotnnmnded gtKol 
Approval by the judicious selection of editon, td 
the conHcientions m.\nQer in which the ohjfcti d 
tbe series have been carried out. In the selDfl" 
before ua, we note with pleasure th^t Mr. & i- 
Simcox bring? to bear on the eluctdntioo of & 
text not only the results of bis well-known clsttkil 
scbolamhip, but also, and very much to tbe 
a knowletlge of the idioms of modern E niuj tfi 
htn^ages. We may hope that boys will be ii- 
duced to tre4it their modern-Iongiiage master wdfc 
greater respect, when they observe thftt Mr. Sto- 
cox Bomelinies Ands the best renderiDg of* QttA 
passage in a French rather th&a in an ~ 

construction («.f. bk. iv. chap. 4^ EigbUy viemd, ] 
there Is not only no oppoutuui bet^sea tiM ti* 




todies, but rather much assistance to be derived 
from their 8iir'tjT^'n«''iiis pursuit* Mr, W. H. Sim- 
cox ixivti \in A books of the HiHU)ry of 
Tacitus, wltli > 1 mif Introduction, in which 
te inves'i. ' t the questions, historical, 
philo*oplj L-.;, , id 1-1 ^oal, that have from time 
to time he^n mwjted respecting bi« author, with a 
loafoiiig and an occuiooal quaintly humorous 
expression tbut render it very pleasant 
^^ The note3, soraetimea perhiips too dog- 
!^on matters of textual criticisnij have the 
t value of containinj?, in many cases, food for 
im well aa help for the difficulty of the 
Mr. Papillon's new edition of the 
as for it* very.sufficient raisou d\'tr€ an 
f ion, now first prefixed, on Latin Prosody, 
I he discusser the knotty questions con- 
} >t merely with Terentian metre, but with 
u lie comic poets generally. To the plido- 
iogist the interest of thi» discusBion i§ hcii^htened 
^T the fact, justly insisted upon by Mr. Papillon, 
fe ** the languas;e of Cicero and Caeusjar, of 
id Ovid, waa a tixed literary dialect, stereo- 
)d polished to uo artilicial precision and 
y impossible for the lanyptiage of every- 
Terence and Plautus wrote much as the 
of their time spoke." 

Mil. MmitAT hu completed the life of Mr. Groto, by 
Ting further mmples of the great thinker's rucntal 
in a work entillecl F/tijjiifnts on Ethical iS^tb- 
, by thft Ute George Grote, F.K.S., being a selection 
bil ffOiihumoua papers. In six es$Aj« Mr. Groto 
tL(» nftture and growth of ethicui sentimeut, 
Ik* pililkMspby of moraU, the ancient lystems of moi-nl 
pihiloMfUij. the idea of ethical philoaophT, the rouralfl 
§md the pollticv nf Aristotle. The book is by a thougbU 
fkiJ IBMl for thoughtful readcrt. With regard to one 
ttr it miubt, pi^rhapH, be iJmplv laia that every 
ipring* from (ielf^ehneM, and that every selfish 
h«« in him the germ of every crime. Hia aafeguard 
lo wmich and pmy agaiiiEt hia selliahnesa. 
3Ir- F' K, niotred, perhaps, by Im success 

jpriUi tb-j I'm^p-itM, has publialicd a lacBimilo 

|^^« Cisi. <u .i.t ii uf Izaak Waltun'ii CompUU Angler, 
^^^rik orij^nal edition came out in 1053. This reprint 
^^pJKad farour inith all who " love quietnease, and ver- 

I Ga*:AMBRibGK'i} Handy Concordance to th« iVVtc Tula- 

P - - *'^ ---.--^, contains nearly thirty thounund 
' erfectwork for iho object kept in 


tQ books received we have to note a reprint of 

'n Sermon on tht Reformation (Fiokering), l>eing a 

.( iri which Fuller's collect^ eermons 

c I .T. E. Bailey, F.S.A.,— an ititorestinf^ 

..-j/ Famjiif of Mdrwiiim, htt'^ttn ike 

rjti a/id Ike Ctost of Ou TkirUenlh Ctn- 

F. R. Palmer (Tarn worth, Thompson),— 

U'lmffr (£. W. Alien), in which the author. 

Vatt, thinks the earth is increasing in weight, from 

maUcr depofited on the surface, and is perilled 

wutthmrgtf^MfnicHaU of the Reo, John Dod, 

#^ FAWMlMMt NoTthamptoTukire, IQIA-Au (North- 

i^TlijIor tt con) : in addition to biographical details, 

we have here various Tcifions of I'od's sermon on raslt, 
with a collection of the worthy sayings of old Mr. Dod, 
and a bibliojirnphtcal liet of [his writin^^,— last, but not 
least, on& of our esteemed correspondents. Mr. Wni. 
Wing, has reprinted, from the Oxford VhroKiekt hia 
AnnaU of Steeple Atton and Middle A Hon, in the 
CoMHiif !>/ Oxford. Mr. Wittg is au admit aljle local 
hiHtoHan. In seven dozen of neatly printed pagos he 
btts cotidenecd mutter which some conipilers would have 
fipread over a quarto or two. 

TnB TrxLK up *' UKVKnK^n/*— The Judicial Committee 
of the Privy Conncil have declared that "reverend " is not 
a pecmlifir title of oflicc or dignity, but one of courtesy, 
applicable to those wbo are worthy of revcniuce- Wbere* 
upon tbe Rev. G. W. Manning has taken t)te step thtti 
announced in tlie Dailxf Ntvs of Tuesday, 'iotii inst. : — 
''The Vicar of Uttle Petberick, 8. I?sey, Cornwall, 
has, in an advertisement in a Plymouth newspaper, re- 
que'ited correspondents to address him in future as 
G. W. Manning. He adds, ' correspondents who prefix 
to his name ths now desecrated epithet of " reverend " 
will please not to be offended if he rejects their lettors, 
&c.'" The Guardian states that severnl of its clerical 
subfcribers liav<f requested tliat tho pnper uliould not be 
sent to them with the prefix of "Itev." to their namos« 

The February number of the Law Mapazine and 
Htpiev will cofiiain an exhaustive article on the ♦' Ex- 
territoriality of Public Ships of War in Foreign Waters," 
by Sir Travers Twiss, throwing new light on the legal 
aspects of tlic Adnjiralty Slave Circular. 

ExoMENsts denies the fact recorde<l ante, p. 65# and 
quoted from the Exeter Wtsf(m Times. 

fiotitti to CarrctfponOciitif. 

On all ccmmanlcationt sbotild be written the name and 
address of the sender, not neeesaarity for pubiieatioo, but 
as a guarantee of good faith. 

S. YorKt!.— b'ee Geneml Index, *' N. k Q.," Second 
Beries, for the subject of ''Midwife nnd Jklan-Midwife." 
The origin and history ar i there pretty fully shown. The 
recent i-esolution cf the Council of the Itoyal College of 
Surgeons to admit lady students in midwitcry to cxsmi- 
nations in that branch of the medical pr^fcpsion is no 
novel tv at all. To the information contained on this 
point m the b'econd Series, we add tho following extract 
from the autobiography of the well-known Mia. Lictitia 
Pilkington <171i-1750), whose father. Dr. Tan Leweu, 
was a medical man practising in Dublin : *' And there 
being then," sava the lady, "but one Man-Midwife in 
tbc Kingdom, my Father made himself Master of that 
useful Art. and practised it with great Succcst, Keputa- 
tjon. and tlumanity." 

W. C. IJ. fG'^ S. iv. 439.)-M. W. writes r-"T find in 
Tkf Poetical Album, edited by Alaric A. Watts, second 
seriei, published by Hunt, Chance k Co., 8t. Paul's 
Churchyard, 18*29, the little poem inquired for by 
W, C. Jl,; it is there called *The Scarf of Ootd and 
Blue, a ballad, by U. G. Bell, Esq..' and appears to be 
taken from T/te Literarjf Smtvehir," 

0, Steel— In the Ust century Mr. Horne {oh. 173&), 
the banker, held the office of lamplighter to his Msjet ty, 
for which he received (XXW. a year. The nost wot in the 
gift of the Lord ijteward of the Houiehola. 

laaoRAST. — Any intelligent child could answer such 
a qoeiy. The same may bo said aa to the query of 
G. M. W. 

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C0ITB5T8.~N» 110. 

. loJ— Tbe '• Flnt NobUUr" Roll 

liukB — lUrthworkii in Epping Forest. 

JX^, WouKes of Limerick— Celtic tuid 

of BromAeld ftxid Yale— Oamctt 

, 107—" Ptwonft," Derivation 

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of eij^t iKJeruK'W •"» been recently 

thoDgh " N- & Q*" does not gcnemlly 

cublmmry mftttera, yet there are some 

mt these creations — not about 

lObleit (who ;ire ;ill fmic tinti an<l 

about the titles selected and 

;h may be worthy of notice. 

IT were already in the House 

one (ofi a representative peer of 

Til- V nre as follows : — 

\1: in England (and of 

1 1 **Earl of Ivinnira, 

and I>nke of Gordon, of Gordon 

of the United Kingdom called 

being alreiuiy» as one of 

Hdf '* a double-barrelled duke " 

' two hundred years' standing), 

guiding a third dtikedom (of the 

j!i If to become *' a revolver.'' Aa 

ire of his grandmother, the senior 

of Gordon, he poaaessea Gor- 

estates of that family^ which 

in 1836 (who thcreuptm to«k 

fen before that of Lennox)^ by the 

eternal uncle) George, fifth Duke of 

It issut*, in that year, when that 

Scotch peemge)i which hud hsted 

about 150 years, became extinct. The Marquess 
of Huntly, the heir male of the house of Gordon, 
deBC«ndB only from tbe grandfather of the first 
Duke of Gflffdon. Tbe earldom of Kinrara is a 
title hitherto unknown, and does as well aji any 
other to he conpled with that of March, the cour- 
tesy title of the duke's eldest son. If it amusetd 
his Grace to have it, it certainly hurts no one, and 
doubtless is " good for trade," 

2. The Earl of Abergavenny, created " Rorl of 
Lewes, co. Sussex, and Marquess of Al>ergavenny, 
CO. Monmouth." It is strange that the town of 
Lewes has never before been selected for a peerage 
deBigoation. It 18 an appropriate title for one 
who has large estates in *Sussei, though, in this 
case, that of Tunbridge wotdd have been still more 
appropriate. Aa to the ruarquessate, which the 
Tirtus thought it beneath the dignity of the earl 
to accept, it i» hard to see why a famUy, which 
obtained an earldom from George IIL, Hhuuld not 
take a marqueasate from his gmndtiaughter. With 
respect to the barony of Abergavenny, which his 
ancestor, Edward Neville^ obtained by writ of 
auinmons in \&}4 (though he was not the heir 
geri€rnl of that barony), it seems douVitful whether 
such writ (although the newly summoned baron 
was placed in tbe precedency due to the old lords, 
i. (i, that of 1392) does not conatituto an entirely 
ntw barony of that dfite. One can hardly see how 
it deprived Lswly Fane, the heir general, of her 
right of inheriting the ancient barony, which (be 
it remembered) came to the Nevilks "with a 
lass" (in 1450), and ought appurently to have left 
them " with a lass," in 1587. However this may 
be, the barony which Edward Neville possessed in 
in04, though one hif wTtf, was aUoivcd in 1695 to 
the heir mak^ instead of the heir general (female), 
of his body, and as the present marquess is, and 
his great-grandfather, the first earl, was, such an heir 
pi:de (though they wcrenot heirs general), these new 
titles of Abergavenny are removed from the ob- 
jection of giving to a man possciistng a barony i» 
fee an earldom of the same pkce, with a different 

3. Lord WhamcliflTe, created "Viscount Carlton 
of Carlton, and Earl of Wliarnclitfe, both in the 
west riding of co. York " ; with a ppeciid remain- 
der, in default of male issue, to his brother, the 
Hon. Francis Dudley Stuart- Wort ley. The Earl 
of Shannon in the Irish peerage aita in the House 
of Lords as Lord Carlcton of Carleton, co. York, 
a barony created in llS(p. This, however, is not 
the same place, nor spelt in the same way. Be- 
sides, as Lord Shannon's second title, by which 
his eldest son is known, is Viscount Buy lo— while, 
on the other hand, Lord Wharnclitfe will not sit 
in the House of Lords as Lord Carlton — no con- 
fusion can arise, The special remainder, though 
UDUsual, and, of course, a very great favour, is not 
without precedent in the case of a peerage con- 



[6^8. V. Fn.5«1 

ferred on » person already a peer, as in the case of 
the late LoTd Brougham, the first Earl of Rossljn, 
Sic, ; and in this case it is only the extension of 
the btgber titles to one already in renminder to the 
barony. The title of Whamcliffe appears to be 
taken from Wlmmcliife Lodge, in the parish of 
Tankeraley, the only mention of the name of 
Whamcliffe in Langdale's Dictionary of Yorkshire, 
1809. This, for an earldom, seems a. somewhAt 
humble origin. No such reproach, however, of 
over-hum ility can attach to the next person en- 
nobled, riz- — 

4, The Earl of Erne, a representative pew of 
Ireland t created ** Baron Fermanagh of Lisna.skea, 
in the county of Fermanagh.'^ The title of Fer- 
mmuigh was enjoyed, as a viscounty and barony 
in Uie peerage of Ireland, by the family of Vcraey 
of BucKiagbamsbire, from 17u3 to 18 in. Why 
the Earl of Erne, who li known both in and oat 
of the House of Lords as svth (sitting there as a 
representiitive peer cu Ejtrl of Erne), should 
be ashamed of the title he derives from his ances- 
tow is hard to teD. His second title, by which 
his son and heir apparent is known, in Viscount 
Crichton ; so the name of Lord Fennanagh will 
be utterly unknown^ excepting so far only as his 
successors nmy be known in the House (only) under 
that title. He should not anyhow have been al- 
lowed to select a cmmiy as the title for his barony. 
His lordship is now Baron of a County of a town in 
that county. There axe not too many counties, for 
earls prpJicnt and future, to admit of one being 
" pottMl " in this manner, and condemned to per- 
petual obscnrity. Probably his lordship's view 
was the same as that of the late Marquess of 
Hertford, who, towards the end of his life, when 
asked (iifter having Htated that he did nut now 
care for any enjoyment) why he had just purchased 
a picture of immense value, replied that, though 
he did not care about it for himself, it prevented 
" another fellow " from having it. It is a curiouH 
fiict that, when Scotch or Irish peers receive a 
peerage of tbc United Kingdom, they generally 
prefer any title (often one unknown, and most un- 
couth) to their own ancient one. For instance, 
instead of there being in the House (as such) a 
Lord Courtown, Ahoyne, GUagow, Kinnaird, 
Enniskillen, Limerick, Conynghara, Clanricjirdc, 
Cnvwford, Head fort, ^leath, Gosford^ Stair, Fife, 
Seafield, Dunmven, Kolln, *Southesk, and Caith- 
ness, tlie peerages selected by the Scotch and 
Irish peers ho named (as if on purpose to puz/.le 
the uninitiated, and to lof^e their own identity) 
are Sjdtcraford, Meldrum, Eoss, Rossie, Grinsteiui, 
Foxford, Minster, Somerbill, Wigan, Kenlia, Cha- 
worth, Worlingham, (Xxenfoord, Skene, Stratspey, 
Kenr>% Dunning, ;ind (speak softly!) Balinhard 
and Barrogfll 

6. John Ralph Ormsby-Gore, Esq., created 
*' Baron Harkch of Harlech, co. Merioneth"; with 

a special remainder, in default of mule lsd«,{ 
brother, William Kichard Ormsby-Gorc, 
Harlech has never yet given a title of 
and, according to the rarliamtr^tary 
has been " long since reduced to a small viili 
indeed it, and the more famous "Men of Hdtdi' 
m well, were so much ignored, that ihi 
and most of the papers, announced this 
as " Ban>n Hurlock," The title is, ho^ 
tach4^ ; not so, however, the special 
which is most objectionable, and appi 
almost without precedent (unless in 
peerage) in the case of one not alr^yj 
any of the three kingdoms, other thtn 
cases as Nelson, &c., to whose servioeij 
the family of Ormsby-Gore can hardly' 
pared. To make the matter more st 
brother is not even the heir presumptive 
Harlech, who has both a daughter and 
who, it is to be presumed, wiU inherit 
perty as he is able to leave them« 

6. Henry Gerard Sturt, Esq,, created 
Alington of Crichel, co. Dorset," His 
a descendant, through the family of Naj 
nets), of one of the two (in their issue) 
the fatnilv of Alington, Lords Alinjjton m 
Mi 12 to ^722; in En^dand 16sj 
Gurz^ns, Earls Howe, through tht i 
represent the other co-heir. 

7* John Tolleraache, Esq., created 
ToUemaclie of Helniingham Hall, co. Suffo 
is paternally of a family named Ha 
grandfather, John Delap H alii day, Es*]., 
the youngest daughter and co-heir of Lioi 
mnche, tbixd Esirl of Dysart, in Scotlj 
Louisa (sim jura) Countess of DjTsart^ 
tress of the present earl. Their son, 
licence, dated July 4, 1821, took the 
Tolleumche in lieu of that of Halliday, 
father of the present peer. 

8. Sir Robert Tolver Gerard, Rirt., 
" Baron Gerard of Bryn, in the co. 
Laocaster.-' Why this gentleman, whose 
tary rank, now above two centuries and a 
giFcs hini at present such infinite precede 
the last three-named persons, has been, 
after, placed beneath them, and made the 
of the whdle batch, is hard to say. The 
of tlie House of C"!ommons" gives M< 
and Sturt no such precedence ; and 
Tollemache, he is but an t/- member of 
assembly — only, in fact, a dead lion (ev< 
the M.P. in esse to be a lion), and, as 
compare to a live dog, granting that 
ranked as high as a dog. The late Lord 
reported to have said that he did not ll 
Gerard, the third baronet of the rea^im, w< 
cept of a nineteenth century barony, 
his position as such and his illusti 
gree far overshadow the houses of Gore,i 



' ; Aad, in being placed beneath 
wt^ wm for his futuii? motto Lluit 
Mf imSj, ** Vh'\ l«p«u8, quid feci t " 
G. E. C, 


k r*fnij7« saya (p. 195, et seq.) that 
JatL 26, ftimo 25 Edw. I., six* earls 
re barons, besides the judges, but 
«U»bct«, be it obwrved, were eonii- 
eoible at Salinbury on 8ept. 21 fol- 
• munmoDSj aa j^riuted m Parlia- 
, I cAn count but seventy-four 
e^ however, the ". . . ." printed 
r them ima been conaidered to be 
>ther now obliterated) ; and this is 
lAlftiDed (when corrected) in the 
of solli of aruiB, copies of which, in 
w&rd Dering (the eminent Kentish 
. Charles I.) are at the present time 
on of Robert Hovenden, Esq., to 
^I aiu indebted for liberty to pub- 
r purposes of dbtinction I have 
tJiem "Nobility" rolls. 
tbe Historic Pitra^c snys, further, 
IS to whether the writ in question 
1 a regular writ of summons to 
I been created in hia mind by a 
I in a copy of Dugdale'a Summonses 
a which tbe late Francis Townseudj 
lUtfka :— " Vincpnt,t No. 35, p. 45, 
I note in the margin, of the hund- 
fak, of John Viiicent,t says, ' This 
lODS, bccttuse it is only directed to 
t,*" It would be superfluouB, I 
pend notea tending to the identifi- 
•r indeed any, of the petnuns in- 
e the Historie Peerage is acceasiblle 
ers, and, read by the light of the 
ffords, a pretty clear idea can be 
authentic nature of tbe record now 
re, for the first time. The tricktngs 
•e but slightly (or hurriedly ?) exe- 
endcavoured, however, to ciye a 
t of what is to be gathered from 
[obabHity the originals, from which 
referred to were taken, are now lost, 
bteoce an ancient copy on vellum 
n, IV. 1) of a nobility roll of unns, 
Edward III, (Eritiah Muaeum Ad- 
fo. 295<:i5), which I hope to print 

Tomwall, to whom the writ in ftddr{:8»Gd, 
the li«t of c&rii in tbnt document* but 
[ing the number of e&rls in it aeven 


n$ in th* College of Arm*. 
to have b«eii written la another 

Angustifit Vincent, Windsor 

as an appropriate conclusion to these rolls, of 
ainiilar cluimcter, tem'p, Edwards I. and IL : — 

Barons ma&k att thk Pauuam' holdbh att Salis- 
bury 25 Euw» J. 
1- '*EJin. PUntagenetj Erie of Cornwiill." Arg. a 
lion ramp. ^n. crowned or, tad a bordure sti. bezantee. 

2. " Rog' Bigod, Erie of Norf. Ac Marflhall of En^." 
Per pale or and Tert, a lion ramp. gu. 

3. " Will. Ueauchamp, Earle of Warw." Quarterly, 
1 anil 4, ffu. a feM int^r biz cross crossleta or; 2 ami 3, 
chequj ur and az, a chevron erm. 

4. "Rich, fitz Allen, Erie of Aruudd/' Gil m lion 
ramp. or. 

&. "Rob. Vere, Erie of Oiford." Quarterly pi. and 
or^ tn first quarter a mullet arg. 

6. " Gilb't Vmfreuile, Erie of Angwiah." Ou. a 
ctnquefoil within an orle of oroas crosflleia or. 

7. " Aimer da Valence, Erie of Ponbroke." Barry of 
ten arg. and sz. an orlo of ten martlete gu. 

8. '* Rob. de Bruia * Baron of Brecknok."* Barry of 
■ix vair (potent counter potent) ertn. and gu. and az. 

&. *' Jo. Wake, Bk. of Udell." Or» two bira and in 
chief three roundlea gu. 

10. " Rog' Mowbray, Ban of Axholme." Ou, a Hon 
ramp. arg. 

11. " Brian fitz Allen, Bar. of Bed&lL" Barry of ten 
or and gu. 

12. " Raff fitjs Will'mi, Bar. of grimthorp/' Barry of 
■IX arg. and az. tliree chapleti gn. 

VL " Gilb't do Gaunt, Bai*. of Lindaey/' Barry of lix 
or and ax a bond gu. 

14. "Tho. furneuall, Bar. of Sheffeld." Arg. a bend 
inter six martlets ku. 

15. " Raff Neuill, Bar. of Raby." Gti. a aaltire arg. 

16. *' Jo. Segrauo, Bar. of Segraue." Sa. a lion ramp, 
arg. crowned gn. (.'' but should be or). 

17. "Hob. fitx Roger, Ba. of Clauering." Quarterly 
or and gu. a bfistou u. 

18. " Walt' fauconbrtdge. Bar. of — .." Arg, a lion 
ramp. az. and b&gton gobony or and gu. 

19. *'Ingra' do Oynes.t Baron." Ou, a chief vair 
(potent counter potent). 

20. " Jo. do Graistock, Ba. of Morpith." Gu. three 
cushions or. 

21. *• Rclgnold Gray, Bar. of Ruthin." Barry of six 
arg. and az. a label of three pendants gu. 

22. ^' Jo. de Giffordj, Bar." Gu. tbree [ions paasant in 
pale arg. 

23. " Allen Plackenet, Bar.*' Erm. a bendengraikd gu. 
*24. *" Oltucr Dmaat, Bar." Gu. a fesa dancettOe erm. 
25. '* GilesJ Dcvwbneyj Bar.'" Ou. four lozenges con- 
joined in fcsJ! arg. 

2t). " Edra. Mortimer, Bar. of Wigmor."' Barry of aix 
or and az. an ioescutcbeon arg. and on a chief of the 
fint, three pale« inter two gyrona of the second. 

27. *' foulk fit! Warren, Bar. of Whittingtun," Quar- 
terly per fe»a indented arg. and gu. 

25. " Pet' Corbett, Bar. of Cuur." Or, a raven sa. 

29, " Geffrey Cftnaile,5 Bar,'* Az. three lioni paaaant 
in pale arg. 

30. " Bog' le Strange, Bar. of Ellesmere,'* Gu. two 
lioD« panani arg> and a bordure engrailed or, 

• " Brui" in the writ (printed ioParJiaT«*n<ori/ irn'tf, 
fol. i. p. 51). Jenynt'a Orc<»»ttry, p. 73, arms ot ** Regi- 
natd de Brevya,"— Barry of six, three ban az. and the 
other three rair gu. and crai. {%, e. same ai aboTe). 

+ •' Idgelram de Ghiraei " in Hutoric Peera^i. 

I " Eliot de Albiniaco" in the writ, from which correct 

I /. I. Camvile. 




31, "Bob. Tat«diAll, Bar. of Buckenhln." Chwjuy 
•r and gn. % chief erm. 

32. •*Tho. Barkley, Bar. of Barkley." Oa, cniailly 

pftUa ftod a chorron arg. 

''slnti, Bat* of 
tigbt gii. and or. 

83. " Hagh Point!, 

CoTOeualect" Barry of 

34. " >ich. Bograue, Bar. of Stoder." ^ a lion ramp, 
arg. crowned or, and » label of three pendants gu. 

y5. " Andrew Eatley,* B." Arg. a lion ramp. gu. ; in 
margin "on y* ahouldera (cmquefuil tricked) or." 

36. •* Hugh le Spencer, B.*' Quarterly arg. and gu. 
in the second and third a fret or, and over all a baaton 

37. "Jo. LoTell, Bar. of Tichmarch." Barry nebulae 
of six or and gu. 

38. "Jo. de Engaine, B, of Colum," Gu, cruflilly and 
a fesg danccttec or. 

39. •' Kaffe Pipard. Ba, of limford." Arg. two ban 
az. and on a canton of tbe second a dnquefoilor. 

40. "Kob. fit! Paine, B, of Lannier.' Gu. two lioni 
passant arg. and a bend az. 

41. "Jo. de Moelifl, B. of Caudebcry." Arg, two bari 
aad in chief three rouudle« gu. 

42. *• Hugh Mortimer, B. of Cbilmanh." Barry of 
tix or and ux. an tncfcutcheon voided (?jt crm. and on a 
chief of the first thrc« pales inter two gjrona of the 

43. "Jo. Beauchamp, B. of Hach." Yair (ancient 

44. '* Jo- fi* John, B, of Lageham.** Arg. on a chief 
gu. two aiulletfl, pierced, or. 

45. "Hen, do V^rtiaco^i Bar." Vert, a pale or, 

it}. " Will Bruie, B. of Gowor." Ax, cnisilly fitehy 
and a lion ramp, or, 

47. •' Hugb de Placetig, B." Arg. bIz aanuleta gu. 

48. " Rich. Basset, B. of Weldon.'* Or, three palea 
gu, and a b ordure oz. 

49. " Kftuf Pcrnjt, B." Quarterly per pale and feei 
bath indented or and az. 

60. " Jo. Gray, Ear. of Codnor." Barry of fijc arg, and 

fil, '* Tho, MouUon, Bar. of Egremond;' Arg. three 
burs gu. 

52. •* Pluhp de Darcy, Ba." Arg. three cinquefoili 


53. " Will. Mortimer, B. of Attelburgb." Or, Bcm£e 
of fleurg-deliB (some cut by shield) sa. 

64. " Tho, do Chft worth, B. of Norton." Barry of ten 
arg. and gti, an orle of ten martlets sa. 

55. " Raff de frecliuilc, B. of Staly." Ax. a bend inter 
tax efloallop9 arg. 

B6. " Rich, de Draicott, B," Paly of sii arg. and gu. 
a bend erm. 

67. " Tho. de Wahull. B." Or, three creftccnti gu. 

68. "i>«bert de Oifford, B." .,., three liona paaaant 
in pale .,., and a label of three pendanta ... 

59. "^ GylcB de Plttb, Bar." Per pale or and gu. a tion 
pa Man t arg. 

60. ** Geffrey de Lucy, B of Cokermoutb." Gu. three 
kcies hauriant arg. two and one. 

61. "Will, dc Creaay, B." Arg, a liom ramp, tail 
forked sa. 

62. " Mc. dc Menin, B. of W&rletoa." Az. two ban 
gemellej! aod a chief or. 

63. "Jo. de Lunca^tcrj B, of Griiedftle/* Arg. two 
bara gu. and on a canton of the lecond a cinquefoil or. 

($4. " Math, fits [John.* 

* Printed "Eleja" (in error?) in Par/mirt<»7Uary Writs. 
f The upper portion of the orle wanting, aa though 
corered by the chief, 
X The reatoration of iiaue of Matthew Pitz-John ia 

65. John fits] Renold, B. of Blenleoj^"* 
Uons ramp. or. 

66. '* Wiir de Neirford, B." Ga. 

67. "Will, de ferrera, B, of 
maaotea conjoined 3, 3, and 1, or. 

6^, "Hen. de Pinokney, B. of Wcdon.**^ 
conjoined in fen gu. 

69. " Jo. de MArtnion, Bar." Vi 

70. "Theobadd de Veidon, Bar. of 

71. "Jo, de Wigton,* B." Sa. 
a bordure engrailed or. 

72. "Rog' de Ilontingfeld, B. of 
on a feaa gu. three nmnJiefl tir^. 

73. '^Rob. fitz Walter, B. of Woot 
inter two chevrfina gu. 

74. " Regnold dc Argentine, Bar.* 
and three cohered cupa arg. 

75. ■■ Bob, da Hilton, B, of HUton.'* Arg.\ 

76. "Jordan folliot, B." Gu. abend arg. j 

77. "Will, de Bottelor, B, of Warringttsj 
bend inter aix covered cups or. J 

78- " Nich. de Criell, B." Gu. a chief arJ 

79. "Nich. de Audley. B. of Hchgh." G4 

80. " Jo. ab Adam, it. of Beuerbton.'* 
, . five niulleta ... 

81. "Jo, Tregola, B. of Garingeai'* 
gemellea and in chief a lion paaaaut or^ 

K"' OlLlep as 

ASfltlfTAltTS TO Y* «4 

a2. *' S' Rog' de Brubazon." Gu. on a 
martleta aa. 

83. " 8^ Will, de Bereford.*' Arg. criuiUl 
three fiennMde-lia sa. 

84. " S' Peter Malorey." Or, a lion romp, 

86. "S' John do Licheger.l Arg. on 
cherronfl sa, five round lea or. 

86, "S"^ Jo, de Cobh*ra," Gu. on a oh< 
lions ramp. ea. 

87. " S' Adam d© Crokedayke," Erm. three 1 

85. "S"^ Henr. de Enefeld." ..., an oeciI 
within an orle of mnrtleta ... 

m, " H' John de Boeco." Sa* craaUly andj 
pards* faces or. i 

90. "8; Hogerfl de KnoviJl." Arg. thraem^ 
points, pi arced, gu. 

made from the writ, in which it immediatel 
that of John Fitz-Beginald. Sir Edward | 
onljp the name and arms of MaiOwtt Fitx-Regl| 
is cl«arly an error of transcription, and no dot 
hid having mixed up the two entriea. Owin^ 
currencG we are minus the arma gi?en to M*l4 
John in the original Roll. 

* '* Whityngton" in writ, but " Johan de W 
Baron, in " Parliamentary*' Roll ; aame armi* 

+ " de Da^entre " in writ, | 

1 Read '* Goring" (co. Sumox). 

§ "Lythogr*' (i. e. Lythegraynea) in writ, 4 
it i« evident th^t either Sir Edward, or the ori| 
piler of the Eotl. took the old f for c. The ^ 
seem, however, to be those of TErcedekne 
doacon ; Jeoyng'a Ordinary, p, 76. givee »o 
I'Erchcdiacro " (Erchediacne, blundered) 
armi, t. & arg. three chevrona aa. betant^ i 
to the aame authority (p. 86) the nruu of *' 3t 
graynea " were, rather, Gu, mn orle arg. mi4 
all) a bend or. 

J " Bogo " in the writ, from which co 




VViirm Isfe' XJt, a ohctrron vert, 
*$' John da iMnfa.** Or, a f«9« inter two cher- 

Ca. & b«nd inter aix cron 

OuL two b&n gem«llei 



Ow«L (5»«» S. iv. 284, 446.)-SuMly 

m is right. Miss Sileac« was a 

'tt€, and the old justice did sot 

ber llatl^rtNi too much. Mr, Guy's 

iliuit "tlw? bLickbird h known to be a soli- 

,* I msttt rental re to question. There arc 

of theui, male and feaude, on my 

i^I utiiie. Uy^ng away at the worms where 

ht» thawed a little. You scarceiy ever 

iwnj-billed cock without hisbeiuiti- 

hma following him. They are most taroc 

blfds when their acquaintance is ctil- 

-- ^' naitke nests in the !«ame place 

r. One pair broufjht up two 

x^ ,u Lhe fork of a laurel last summer, 

there were two other pain* in other 

gikrdeo ; at any rate, whoever had seen 

merles all a-flutter on the gr»«9, while 

itled them to he fed, would never 

lilackbird solitary. The word wi«~w?a is 

A diniLnutivc of mt^ra; bat Varro gives 

'by it the blackbird was diBtin^ished 

flible rival the jackdaw — " Sola volitat, 

^jT^cTttim." Some binh fly in flocks, 

lirs ; bat there ig nothing about the 

tn give him the special attribute of 

It would apply just aa well to the 

t*T the robin. 

W. K-*« explHoation is simple nnd clenr. 

1 hare never supposed that Silence meant 

el»e. Of course the black howlet is a 

Mortimer Collins. 

Hill. Berki. 

»re white, and oozels b1ackeb:rds bef.'* 
The Afotioiuifi Sh'j>h«ard, U)9i. 
tbe c<f ntnil and northern dixt rifts of York- 
z* or "uz/lc/' nnd ** black oozle," or 
*/* are common names for tlie black- 

kit black oozle, or black nzzle, is aho, or waB^ 
e thirty yean ago, often heard, at lea.Ht about 
k, a« a vnlgnr epithet for a dark-visaged 
IB^ partirtilarly a female, precisely in the 
Mr in whi< h it is used by SnAkspeare in the 
■^ in r^neation : thus we hear of '*A black 
" She'* a bkck uzzle/ "Thou black 


iQ fmt. *• Parliamfntarjr " Roll ; arms of 
n»ixward '* (Howard) of co. Norfolk, Go. oni- 
a b«&d tag. (i. e, same as aboro J). 

The allusion in Shakspeare is nafc Uk the habits 
or character of the blackbird us solitary, Buspicious, 
and shy, as iwme of your correspondents have eitp- 
posed, but simply to its colour, Shallow^s de- 
scription of Ellen as " Your fairest daughter and 
mine " is taken up by Silence ironically : " Alaa, a 
black ouzel, Master Shallow." H. W. O. 

'* BtJSTLEas,* Tempetty Hi I (5**> S, iv. 181, 365.) 
=-Mr. J. Beale writes on this word as if it were 
in the text of Shakspe-are, which it is not. It 
will be time enough to consider his suggestion that 
"Ferdinand's 'busy-leas' matches Mir^mda'a 
* skilldesa,' ** when we know that such a word as 
" busy-le-ss " ever existed. For myself, I do not 
believe in its possibOity. " Skilldess " is naturally 
formed from a substantive ; so is " kinille^s," 
'* matchlcHs," &c. When and where did privatlves 
(in hssi) formed from adjectives appear in English 
literature ? All we know about this monster, 
** buBv-iess,'^ is that Theobald was its progenitor^ 
and that it fi^rst appeared in Theobald's duodecimo 
edition of Shakspeare. 

Somewhere in " N. & Q." (if I remember right) 
Eden Warwick defends ** busy-less," on the 
OTOund that *' busy " is there a verb. But that 
doe? not mend the matter a jot. Such privatives 
were, indeed, made from verhi iraitsUiw^ which 
"busy" is not. 

I really think we ought, by this time, to have 
heard the List of Theobald's illegitimate issue, 
which is " neither flesh, nor fowl, nor good red- 
herring." Jabez. 

Athenaeum Club. 

Earthworks in Eppino Forebt,— In"N,&Q.," 
4*^ S. X. 295, under the above title, you pub- 
lished a communication of mine, intimating that I 
had met with truces of ancient earthworks in the 
neighhourhoiid of Louahlon, and requestinginforma- 
tion. The replies (p. :i95) confounded my discovery 
with Ambr^fihury Banks, a mile and a half further 
north. Will you now allow me to chronicle the 
fact that I have recently repeatedly investigated 
these relics of antiquity, and that Mr. W. D'Oyley 
of Tjoughton has, in the exercise of a most pnilse- 
worthy zeal, surveyed the place, and made a phm 
of it to scale 1 Essex archwolo gists will be glad 
to hear of this addition to their list of ancient re- 
mains, and will, 1 hope, give to it the attention 
which it deserves. The Trinobantcs, if thej^ con- 
structed it> were born engineers, m the site is ad- 
mirable. The camp occupies a sort of promontory, 
overlooking a deep valley, running from the foot 
of High Beech to near Loughton. From Loughton 
it is easily accessible to pedestrians, but it is 
nearer to the Epping rond, east of a point half a 
mile beyond the Robin Hood. The camp con«isted 
of a ditch and embankment, enclosing a space 
which is nearly circular, but modiiled by the con- 




tour of the suTface. The outer circurufereDce is 
aljout 750 yards. The whole is now over^wn 
with forest, but at this aeason is easily pepamhu- 
hited. The ground outsitle the northern division 
haa been a good ileiil dug into pita, and the outer 
slope OQ the south shows traces of aDcieDt work. 
Mr, D'Oyley tells me that, at some distance to the 
eoat, there are sundry mounds ; but my own re- 
aenrches in that quarter hare not been quite so 
sucoeMfal. Allow me to tidd thsit the gentleman 
I hare named ha« executed for the Corporation of 
London a map of the forest, in which, for the first 
time, the aite of this camp is indicated. The 
ground foroifl p:irt of the manor of Loughton, and 
13 included in the enclosure made by the lord of 
that manor. Happily there is rea^ton to belt eve 
that it is no\F .safe, and will escape the fate which 
threatened it. From a map in my possession I 
gather that a Ronum road, running north from 
Stratford, passed very near the camp. 

B. H. CowrER. 

Mrs. DixoLiY. — ^In moat lives of Swift, and in 
most accounts of Esther Johai3on, or Stella, it is 
usual to speak of her ffreat friend Rebecca Dingley 
as a distant rehuion of the Temple family. I am 
not rtwarcj however, that any one has taken the 
trouble to try aod find out what that relationship 
was. In the hope of settling this point, I desire 
to make the following suggestions* Sir John 
Temple, the father of Sir William, married Mnrj-, 
daughter of Dr. Hammond of Chertsey, and, 
therefore, sister of the celebrated Henry Hammond, 
D.D. Accord in J? to A. A Wood, Atk. O.r.^ another 
daughter of this Dr. John Hammond of Chertaey 
married Sir John Binfjley, Knii,'ht, of London. 
From this it would appear that Sir John iJingley 
was the uncle of Sir William Temple. 

In some deeds relating to the Ormonde family, 
in my jwHsession, there are records of a mortgage 
of lands in Ireland, from the Duke (then Earl) to Sir 
John Temple, in lH:i9. The money thus advanced 
h statedj in 1G55, to belong to John Dinj^Iey, Esq., 
of Wolverton, in the Isle of Wight, and his son, 
John Diagley ; and in 1677 to be the property of 
8ir John Dingley and his aon, John Dingley, Esq., 
then of Kin^i Streer, Westminster. Other deeds 
show that tlii.H John Dingley, Esq., had a son 
described as John Dingley, Gent., to whom the 
mortgage money was remid prior to 168(1 Here, 
then, there are three John Dingleys, the knight, 
the esquire, and the gent. ; and the t[Ucstion is, 
which of these wivs the father of Rebecca Dingley? 
Sir John Dingley imd a second son, Robert 
Dingley, Rector of Brightestone, aHa* Brixton, in 
the Isle of Wight, the Jiving of which he obtained 
through the interest of his kinsman, Colonel Robert 
Hammond, governor of the island. He died in 
1 (J 59, and is buried in the church at Brixton, hut 
Wood does not luention that he had any children. 

Sir John Ding ley's two sons apjjear to 
born about 1615-20, whilst Rebecca 
said to have been born about IGG^. 
might have been either a daughter of hill 
Dingley, Esq., or of his grandson Joha 
Gent. Edwabd^ 

Sutton, Surrey. 

TnE WouLFKS OF LiMKRicK. — In Fe 
toiy of Limfrich may be i^een the 
October 27, 1651, entered into "bet 
Ireton, the Deputy General," and *' C< 
on behalf of the mayor and inhabitant*,"*' 
the city capitulated to the Parliament 
monwealth of En<rland. I. The first si 
vided for delivering up the city, cast 
places of strength, leaving hostages for 

" 11. In consideration of wliicli idl perK>nii 
citj ahall havu tbeir lives and propertiei, ex( 
lowing, who oppoMd *ad rcstruiaed the 
from accepting th« tcnns io often offered to I 

Auiongst those excepted appear the 
names :^-" Captain George Woulfe and 
Woulfe^ a friar." It further appears thai 
afterwarda suffered by the hands of the ei« 
We are also informed by the author, *' 1.1 
Citizen of Limerick," that — 

" Captftin George Woulfe, of the city of '. 

Sroscriberd by General Ireton for bis attacl 
Loyal onise. He fled to the North of Enf 
he settled, nnd hia (^randAon, (ieiier&l Edwtf4^ 
WM appointed Colonel of th« 8tU Kegimentiifj 
the year 17-1 5. He tr»ttftintt<»d bis HT,iitrtM 
tionul lustre to bin son, Major- (ioneral J*iiuij 
whose memory wlil be ever dear to his 
whose name will be immortalized in history. '*J 

As there is not in our military history, at] 
the last century, a name so deservedly 
as that of General James Woulfe, to wl 
and enteii'priae the British Empire is iad* 
the conquest and annexation of the Proni 
the Dominion) of Canada, perhaps some 
numerous correspondents may furnish raoftj 
details of his ancestry. 

During the present century'^ Stephen 
a Konian Catholic barrister, with whom ibi 
was intimately acquainted, was rai.«ed 
rank of Lord Chief Baron of the Irish] 
of Exchequer, Endowed with splendid 
and possessing great eloquence, il he had 
would have proved tin eminent ornament 
judicial Bench ; but he was in delicate health, 
did not long survive his elevation. The € 
Baron, who wm said to have descended from 
same family, left sisters and i^ue. B. V 

Celtic and Sanscrit,— Mr. Walter Si 
and some other correspondents have done rt 
good service to literature and eommoii 



X, & Q/* and the Athenamm 

to trace many Englinh wordjj 

When once Vallanoey 

ilo]oj^rs Tied with each 

into syllables all sorts of 

itiary interchanges of vowels 

forced so-called etyniolo|xiei<. 

nU imnning reached the 

in Bethaui's Efraria C^^ltica^ 

infttetl in the Lo$t Bmutief of 

and the ingenious interpre- 

* and ** Gratiiercy.-' Now, 

of pseudo- philological 

to cry out^ ** Quoiisque 

t the frecjuent refereoces of 

to Sanscrit be open to siraiLar 

id may not all the theories of 

tracing our descent from 

oocestry, be c<iually ba-^eless f 

S, T. P. 


KUTBipondenti dcfliring information 
omlj private interest, to &£5x their 
to their queries. In order, Uiat the 
^ to fehemdire«ij 


lo put a query relative to a 
IToles of BOme historical interest, 
ip of Brom6eld and Yule, inen- 
Ighan's Sistory of the Irish 

A minnt^ detail of the almost 
connected with the confiscation 
Mtfttes in Irehnd in fnvoiir of 
^ tkflerwiLrda created Baron of 
lOunt Woml stock, and Earl of 
extent of 135,82(t acres, subsc- 
by Parliament, he mentions this 
field and Yale as havin)^ been 
Bentinck, though in the actual 
i Grosvenor family; or rather 
ituT more vahiablo part, whidi 
s obliged to withdraw, NV>w it 
rn from Pennftnt, that the lord* 
ranted in 1281 to John, Ejirl 
icd to his descendants till thp 
II,, by whom it was granted to 
nley, after whose ex ecu ti on it 
»Dry VIIL bestowed it on Henry 
Kirhtnond, his natural son, in 
\l<y'.slng reign it came into poa- 
i Seymour, brother to the Prfj- 
whose execution "again flung 
e possession of the Crown." In 
•etb Pennant supposes it to have 
I of the great Earl of Leicester ; 
^13 again in the hands of the 
PS, however, by an ancient deed 

in the posses^rion of qneri«t, bearing date 1627, 
that certain lands coniprised therein were con- 
veyed to Hugh Jones, of Eyton, in the county of 
Denbigh, by Sir Jwhn Wrdter and Sir Thomas 
Trevor, Barons of the Kxcheqner, and Sir James 
Fullerton, Gentleman of the Bedchamber to 
James I., as joint patentees, deriving under his 
moat Sacred Majesty ; and the question arises how 
it became alienated from them or their heiis be- 
tween 1627 and 1643, at which time it was again 
vested in the Crown, 

Also, is there any record of the grant made to 
the aforesaid parties— vi/.., Sir John Walter, Sir 
Thnnuvs Trevor, and 8ir Jtimea FuUerton — as 
rfc{tt*d in the deed of Kyil I Hr<io N. Jones, 

BallrcaawAj Bouse, Kilkenny County. 

Garnktt Family*— Can any of your correspon- 
dents give me information concerning this family ? 
The Rev. William Gamett was bom about the 
year 176<>, near Rtchmourl, in Yorkshire, though 
I have not found the certiticate of his birth. He 
bore amis, Az., three griffins' bends, erased, or, 
f|uartering Grey. In the Harleian MSS. there is 
a short pedigree of four descents, beginning with 
James Gamett of Blasterfield, in AVestmoreland, 
who had a son Lorance Garnett of Egglescliffe, 
whose son Anthony Garnett of EgglesclifVe had a 
son John Garnett, a captain of horse in the Koyal 
array, temp. Charles I. Now Egglesclitfe is close 
to Richmond, and the Rev, William Gamett being 
born there, and bearing the same arms ns these 
Garnetts, shows, I think, thnt he must have eonie 
of the same fiiraily. I think the ^>edigrce is to be 
traced to a very remote period, for Burke's Ar- 
mory spells the name in four ditierent ways, 
giving the same arms to each : Givrnett, Garnet^ 
Garnatt, Gumut^ az., three griflins' heads, eraaed, 
or. This is proof of antiquity. 

Geoffery (ramett, of Garnetts and Merks, in 
Essex, was living in the year 1166, and Garnetts 
and Merks remained in his family till about 1350, 
\Vliat .nmis he bore I do not know ; but I wish to 
connect hira, if possible, with the Egglescliffe 
Garnets,, and the Egglesclilfe Garnetts with the 
Rev. William Garnett. I read in some county 
history that the chancel of Pentlow Church, Essex, 
was called GiirnetLs chancel because it contaiiied 
luonumcnts of that family. W. G, TAtTSTOlt. 

The Rkv. William BLAXToif, of Emanuel 
College, Cambridge, in 1B17, came to New Eng- 
hmd about l*J23,and fixed his habitation inShaw- 
mut, now Boston, being the first European dweller 
on the site of the future metropolis of New Eng- 
land. In Ifi35 he removed further into the 
wilderness, tiiking up his abode within the present 
limits of Rhode Island, and lhcrc)>y becjirae the 
first European inhabitant of that State, He waa a 
minister of the Church of England, but did not 

WIBWfnJ^of^m tLc derivation of the lAt. 
rgona from tlie Gr. prosdpon : — 
*' It it ftcknowledged that there are Mirorat otiier 
^tin words which have suffcrod the Bftuie fnte : and Lhd 
|tcfe (Sache) of this transition of letters [t. t, p to »] 
■HiifouUftr that it ought at somo time to be speciAlly 
Nitipintcil. A9 for penona^ bjthii pronunciation they 
liJci • 1 tJtB duiiMc ;» of M ptrsopa ; and the 

Ml- cn.^ily ei]ilaitietl if the word in tho first 

lici: . - o an artistic object (Saohc), i. ^. a ma^ki 

me iTith tUi« object iteelf to the Komaus from the 
rtekii, |>orhi«i<B through the EtruscatiA.** 

As the professor's nrgiiinent depends reiy mucTi 
I the mode of thought of which thia deriTation is 
ftred lis a proof, I am tempted to ask irhether 
le matter lias been " Bpecklly investij^rjtted," and, 
80| with what result. John Fkston', Jud. 
Elm Tree Hou^e, Ilampitead Green, N.W. 

S. Johnson, M.A., 1786.— I ehiU! he tdih^Ii 
pliged for nny infonnution regarding the autiior 
' the following poem : — 

A Toctical Epistle to Thomaa Ince^ Esq^ of Cris- 
jton* near Chester, By S. JohtiBon, A.M. Shrt'ws- 
Tj : Printed and Sola by P. Sandford, Bookecller. 
>ocixXivi/' 4t«. Preface, it fip. ; Epistle, 20 pp. 

In the Preface the author writes as follows : — 

Tlie unfortunate loes of a very yalua!»Io friond, nt a 
ry critical juncture, having of necessity aliut up hi* 
ly avenue to prtferment in tbo Church, Ujs devotion 
hia icAool will, if possible ,^ be mure earnest and unifona 
ever. He i« happy in doclaring that his employment, 
wever irksomo it inti^ appear to many, is hy long habit 
• from being bo to limiscif/* kc. 

At the end of tho Preface is an advertisement 
the following effect : — 

'Mr. Johnson t&koa this opportnoity of giving public 
brmfttion that he shall again offer his boys to a strict 
u&inat&oo at tUe dose «f the year,^' kc. 

and Suffolk, as th 
lagea which ^iill 

William attk 
in the fourteenth 
it tho imme of a 
name for some nat 

J. S. Mill,-! 

Mill prepared for 
plea agaiDst their 
to bo the best tvU 
for a generation) 
cesuible foi'Jti ? 

Lady Fenhoul' 
Ardell, of this lad 
uolds. Who was 

The Giant Moc 
"Tlie Gianfa app 
Ram may well ho 
ami» si tu voulois (vc 
menccmeut, tu me 
Di^ivr, chap. iL p. 1, 
Whf re is the sto 
he found ? 


the yeara 1770 ai 
Hudwon, obtained ' 
for the Eticoumge 
picture of the *' 
Where is that picta 

*' Spider "Tabi 



as ha Ting carried on busi- 

dairebyard at the sign of the 

Any other references or infor- 

Jita publicaliona will be very 

Datid Boous. 

-^^ . — Can any of your reoden 

is ihe origin of this custom T 

*T.— "^VTience came the Sairage 

West of England 1 The nunie is 

Is the name found in the list 

ge<*« I Where umy such a list 

H. Bower. 

*TS,^ln the latter half uf the 
Evelyn mftmed a >(r., or Cap- 

uoBt the wiahea of her rektiona, 
killed at Quebec. Is anything 

To what branch of the Evelyns 
t F. D, K. 

*^ ,y. — When the tumulna 

was opened, wa« a frag- 

le 01 [Df ruj-ved stonei* of the passage 

m oif, and was this iiugment carved 

I C. E. P. 

mOKED GriLDETR PRHfT,"— I pOSgess, 

in good condition, a print with the 
icription on the back : — 

is called ^The Hundred Guilder Print/ 
nrcamitance of all the impreBsions pub* 
ajn Farrj. of nrhich this la esteecaed one 
▼ioft; heeja lold for no leaa than that sum 
ual to SZ. lift. English money.— 3rJ ^Juyem* 

a p." 

: haa been from that date in the 
tlie same family. I shall be glad to 
Doount of the history of this rurity, 
ft of iU value. M. E. F. 


gi?e roe a complete list of these 1 
M, D. D, 

Lamb once jocosely said that he could 
\ three bald women of hia day. Who 
I caD remember only Mrs. Incbbaid 
rbanld. Corio. 

* OOOSEBERRT-FOOL." — Florio, in his 
OfTdrn, 1598, has '* Mantiglia^a. kiodeof 
i&called a foaU or a trifle in English." 
Kiiimiah an earlier instance of foot 
■knse? ' P. J. F. 

— I shonld be glad if I could obtain 
ion respecting the following arms : — 
ietly of six — 1st, Argent, a chevron 

A crott croBalets htchee, also argent ; 

i2ttd, Or, a lion rampant or ; 3rd, Arg., a chevron 
between three lozenges argent ; 4th, Arg,, a lion 
ramp.ant or ; 5th as 3rd ; 6th as lat. Crests^lst, 
A demi-lion rampant or^ grasping a cross crosalet 
tltchde arg. in its dexter paw ; 2nd» A demi-lion 
rampant or, grasping an annulet arg. in \U dexter 
paw. Motto—" Pax qmeritur hello." 

E. F. M. Walkeb. 

The Derivation of STiLToir, Glattojt, ahd 
CoNNiNOTON.— In an account of an entertainment 
of readings with music, given at StOton, Hunting- 
donshire, and reported in the PcUrhorough Advtr- 
User, January 15, is the following jjussoige :— 

" The Her. G. Gibbon, Rector of Lutton, explained to 
th« audience what he beliercd to be the origin of the 
Domefl StiltoD, Otatton. and Connington. Tb« first he 
regarded sea contnu;tion from Steep-hilKiovrri, at)d^/a4 
in Glatton he thoneht bore the same relation to glatm^ 
glow topm, and that it denoted a more rapid motioa of 
the wnter down the hilli than throitj;h the tlat lAnds of 
the fens ; and con in Connington came from the meeting 
together of two strcftmJets on their way to the fens." 

Perhaps the Bector of Lutton was merely per- 
petrating an elaborate joke at the expense of 
his audience ; but, if not, will some reader of 
** N» k Q.-' kindly put him right as to the deriva- 
tion of the three words and their several 

Roots ? 

PRiviLEaKS OP RBfiiinnrrs. — My tailor tells 
me that there is only one regiment that is per- 
mitted to wear shirt collars, but he cnnnot recollect 
the number, or the reason for this privilege. Can 
any military reader supply this information ? 


(5«*' a ir. 366, 472.) 

I am Tery dad this subject has found its way into 
" N. & Q." Binding is a very interesting question 
for the man with an ornamental Library, for in it he 
can display alike money and taste, I think books 
should be bound with a regard to their subjects- 
Anyhow, there is a delightful aensation in handling 
a beautifully liound book ; and a hirge library in 
rich and appropriate bindings is a noble sight. 

But I suspect the question Ls one of much 
greater practical importance to the owners of large 
working libraries ; to the literary man, who has to 
make constant tise of his books, and has to keep 
pace with periodical literature, the pubUcationa of 
the learned societies, and the so-called blue-books 
issued by the different departments of the Govern- 
ment, and, lastly, |>amphlctB. Here he has a large 
mass of unbound material, which, if it be essential 
to his plans to preser^'e, will land him in a con- 
siderable periodical expenditure. To such a man 
the ordinary methods of binding uttfi of iw> ' 



[p* fl> 

He requires at ooce an economic, an effective, aad 
a rapid mode of getting his stores put into form 
for preBervation and reference. 

Our working libraries are formed by degrees ; 
firat hundreds, then thooaands, and finally,, a-s in 
my own case, tens of thousands. When ray library 
was yet in its infancy, I begjin a Bystem which 
answered very well up to a certain point I had 
my booka bound cheaply, but stronf^ly, in cloth of 
certain colours, in relation to the subject-matter of 
the book. Thus, general statistics, brown ; vital 
Btatiatics, red ; periodical literature, green ; his- 
tory, roan ; currency, amber ; chronology, buff ; 
pftrlismentary papers, blue ; pamphlets, black. 

In course of time I adopted, almost from neces- 
aity, the method of classifying my library into 
subjects, and then, behold, the colour>eleraent, 
which had tMJcn so useful for distinction previously, 
became inconvenient from its very sameness. 
Larse raiisses of binding of the same shade present 
no landmarks, I then introduced changes of 
colour into each division, iis follows : — vital sta- 
tiatica— works wjlating to England and Wales, 
red (crimson) ; to Scotland, blue (dark) ; to Ire- 
land, green (emerald) ; to the continent of Europcj 
bull' ; to the United States, brown ; to India, 
yellow (bright). This la answering very well, 
excepting idwaya some confu.%ion from the pre- 
ceding plan. Books in publishers' boards of course 
intcrftre with the general plan. I suppose it h 
hopeless that publishers should ever agree to any 
genend cla-ssiJication of subjects by colour. 

The t^uestion of the materials for binding a 
working library is important. Cloth is the 
cheapest, but cloth binding for books much used 
gets nhabhy ; and since I moved my library 
from the country to London, another difficulty has 
com© about. One of the rooms devoted to my 
books is over the kitchen ; the cockchafers have 
come through the chmka of the floor or the fire- 
place, and they have attacked all my books newly 
DOund in re^l cloth, and some of those in green, 
ftud (piite disfigured them, even eating, or rather 
Bucking, through the gold lettering. I>o they get 
attnicted by the past* used, or what is it ? And 
what is the remedy ? I have used powdered bomxj 
placing it on the shelves at the back of the books. 
The damage has been less since. 

Leather half-binding looks the neatest, and cer- 
tainly brings out the lettering more distinctly than 
cloth ; but then it is liable to two evils — gaa and 
mice» Regarding the destruction by gas in libm- 
ries, reference may be made to the Report of the 
Select Parliamentary Committee on Public Li- 
"bniries, 1&50, or practical demonstnvtion obtained 
by going to the libmry of the London Institution, 
Finsbury Circus. Mice m^iy be kept down by 
cats ; but then which of the two is the greater 
evil in a working library, where the floor, as well 
us the shelves, has to be const^intly occupied 1 I 

intend to try veDum backs and c^ 
correspondent, J. T. R., suggests, -^ 
of Roxburgh© binding I have been tn^- 

BegTirding the Jettering of the hi* 
there is a good deal to be said. W 
saw it can forget that quaint pampE 
<f T^pUng, " at 420 on the Strand," Fch 
anees : a Consideration of our Waif$ 
Boobf, 18541 Poor John TJpUngtt 
Pacific went down in the Atlantic afei 
there was extinguished a shining hj 
booksellers of the literary type, "W 
lisherB pereist in putting the titles i 
where they are no use, and leave t 
l>ooks, which are alone seen in lib 
Every lK>ok should have its short title 
name, and its date, in plain letters, oa 
there be not suflicient room acroasg tl 
and down, beginning at the bottom 
towards the top. If more thau one 
which edition should be also stated, 
chronological arrangement in regard 1 
at present compamtively little unden 

Finally, a word ns to pamphleti 
mode of dealing with these is alwi 
I have found cla.ssification of anbj^ 
available remedy in my own case. ' 
" Currency No. 1, 1B44 to 1846," and 
if you miss any — and many are privi 
and cannot be got by purchase— thei 
is misleading. Of this I am cert 
greater mistake can be pursued than 
ing up pamphlets on mixed subjects 
I shall be glad to learn how your 
Hpondents manage. Vellum backs, o 
can write the short titles, do very w 

I should like to add " a parting i 
bookbinders who ruin books and patn 
by cutting them down to w^ithin an 
lives. This, where not an inherent 
to save boards and leather or dot 
material suggests a remedy as again 
motive. Cokkelius 

S&, B«Ifl]z« Park (hardens. 

Much very curious and valuable in 
the subject of ornamental hookbini 
found in M. Libri*9 letter to Messrs. Le 
& Wilkinson, prefixed to the Cata! 
choice portion of his magnificent lil 
them August 1^ 1859, and twelve foil 

" Last of the Stuabts *' : L. 
Stuaut {5^ S. iv. 484, 524.)— An art 
at the former reference from a correa 
called attention to the fact that the fi 
ing Citizen^ in recor<ling the death of 
Stuart, sister of the last Earl of Traqi 




Uit Hescendant ** of the Stuarts j and 


of December 9, 1875, spoke of 

"^^ ^ Albttnj as the " last of the Stuarts." 

f I'Wfti to the communication explained 

jj^fftloioat centenarian honour, put for- 

« khilf of the venerable lady, by saying 

fL^ Beppeiented as huving been born on 

f * J77B ; wherena^ according to Kearsley's 

l'j7W),6hc was born on Atigust 16, 1784, 

f m only ninety-one at the time of her 

1^'ti ctilled forth a comtounicjition from 

f , »i:o ^eeks to show, from the Bnok of 

h is a hlatory of the Maxwell 

iijcuraents of a similar chanicter, 

jj iMikuok was really born on Jf arch 20, 

ein ft few worda introducing this com- 
ft is said that Kearsley " is an authority 
relied upon/' I am not yet sure that 
!]»'■ ^se will convict Kearsley of in- 
I shall be sorry if it should not, for I 
^^^ found in Lady Louisa that rara 
^brian member of the anstocracy. 
Bsopy of Kearsley, which its former 
rimd interleaved, and which contains 
■dditions, unfortunately but few in 
tid none relating to the subject of this 
ii KeoTsky seems to hare been very 
irepared ; and I began to dotilit whether 
ttcnt, published when the huiy wits ho 
most twenty, but more possibly only 
mid be wrong. I thought I would turn 
mual RtgisUTf and see what light it 
►w upon the date of Lady Louisa's birtb^ 
Douglafl's Peerage of f^eothiid, a ^reat 
and in all modem peerages, is ^riyen as 
, 1776. All these authorities agree, 
that there were only two chUdren, viz,, 
% daughter. 

ring to the index to the Annual liegu- 
i that the marriage of Lord Linton to 
jnscToft was. duly recorded in vol. xvi., 
the year 1773, 1 eould find no record 
h of any child of that marriage in 1770, 
flertbe lady became, by the death of her 
(ihther,Coante8sof Traquair. The index 
birth of a 80Q is recorded in vol. xxiiL 
be ixiv.), for the year 1781, which son 
te earl ; and in vol. xxvii.j nuuiely, for 
►irth of another child, but does not, as in 
ing case, describe the chihi as a son, *So 
d that Kearsley was right' nfter all, and 
■a waa born in 1784, and not in 177f>. 
Btural conclusion, as the reader will 
\ which I am hound to say was not 
bf subsequent inciuiries. 
fcp ed to the A nnual Rc^ufer for 1784, 
JBlO, I read, under the date of July 15, 
Km of Trat^[uair, of a sojiJ^ This wa.s 
■ misprint, because all the peerages, 
Kearvley, tell us that the earl had but 

two children, one son and one daughter, for which, 
also, there is the high aathority of Douglas. 

But, before seeding you this correction, I 
thought it right to refer to the Gentleman's Maga- 
zinty and, to my great surprise, I found it agreeing 
in every respect with the Annv^tl Regiat^ in re- 
cording Lord Linton's marriage, in its silence as 
to the&irth of any issue of such marriage till 1781, 
and then the birth of a son, followed by that of a 
second son in 1784. 

I then turned to the ScoU Magaiiiiu^ and in the 
volume for 1784 found it stated that the Oounteaa 
of Traquair had given birth to a son in Ijondon on 
the 2iith (not 15th) of July. But I found more; 
for, on referring to that magazine for 1776, I found 
(what is not recorded either in the (icnikumn^s 
Mngazint or A miuai EeguUr) that on March 20, 
1776 J Lady Linton gave birth to a daughter at 

It would be a waste of time on roy pari to en- 
deavour to clear up this discrepancy in the Tra- 
quair pedigree, since it is clear your well-informed 
correspondent C. G. H. has the means of doing so 
without much difticuUy. 

I have nothing to say as to the question of the 
** Last of the Stuarts," as I agree with the writer 
of the exhaustive article on " The Heirs of the 
Stuarts," in the Quartrrhj Rcritw for June, 1847, 
that *'the death of Cardinal York extinguished 
the descendants of James IL" 

William J. Thoms. 

40, St. Georgij's Square, 8.W. 

"Fiat justitu, ruat cneldm*' (4** S. i. 04 ; 
ix. 433 ; 5"^ S. iv. 339.)— No answer has yet 
appeared to the query aa to the earliest use of the 
phrase. Possibly this has not been discovered, 
aad some notice of the pkces where it occurs may 
be admitted. The latter part of the sentence is of 
early date. Theognia (v. &j% p. 72, Bergk, Anth, 
Lyr,, Lips., 1668) has :— 
El' ^oi cTTttra irtrrot fityai ovpavoi €vpos V7rip6e\' 

\aA.K€o?, ar&piiiTTtov Stifia TraXaiytvtioVf 

Terence has {IJenut. iv. iii. 41) : — 
" Quid ei coclum rimt.'* 
And Varro (ap, Nonn,, c, ix. n. 7) has : — 

" Tanto inmBtt cupiditai hononim plerUque, ut, t<jI 
ewlum Tuere, dummodo magistrfttus adipiflcautur, exop* 

It is mentioned, as a proverb, by Erasmus, The 
union of the Itvo clauses in another form is implied 
in the lines of Horace {Od. iiL iii. 1-8) :— 

'* Jftatum et tenacem propoeiti virum 

« ♦ ♦ • 

Si fmctim ilhbfttur orbit 
ImpRvidum ferient rumaa.*' 

The form '* Fiat justitiw, mat mundua," was 
noticed some time since in the Guardian tm occur- 
ring ID a pap«r sent, to itve Bnv^ C^iviiiK\\;'^tit,'WA , 





1552, if I hare noticed the diite correctl}'. A 
stmikr form wm wted about that time by the 
fiBferor Ferdmand, 1558-1564, who adopted as 
hk nsotlo, " Fiat justitift et pereat mundus " (Pri- 
dMitx, Jiilrod, to Hist, p. 224, Oxf., 1662). Calvin 
fi reported to h^rc said at a trial in Geneva, ^ Fiat 
jufltitia, mat oalum " (T. B. [Thoi, Bayly^^ Bayal 
ChiiTitr, ch, X, 6, pp. 127-13(J, Lond., 1649). But 
1 do not know where it is to be traced to him. It 
has tdwo been found in J. Downame'a Four Trea- 
ttB^f p. 67, 1609. Bat I have not seen a copj to 
Tpri fy the statement. These last instances are 
I- ^ 1 in "N. & Q.:'4^ S, i, 94; ix. 433. 
1 ice in inBcrted in the lijst of English legal 

»i,ixiin.i in S. Warren's Introd. lo Legal Studies^ 
W. ii. p. 1272, Lond., 1845, but it la not inBcrted 
in H. Broom'i Lif/al Maximiy 2nd ed. 

£d. Marshall. 

BoT Biauors (5'*» S. iv. 501 ; v. C6.)— Athanaaius, 
the famous Biflhop of Alexandria, might be said 
to have been the first boy bifiho]h He has been 
deHcribed u8 a man of very small stature, a dwarf 
rather than a man, with the face of an un^eh 
There is a pleasing aneedote rehited of him which 
finds a piinillel in our Saviours parable of the 
little children mimicking the marriage and funfind 
processions which they saw crossing the market- 

"Sec, nt hia feet, mme little plan or chart, 
i^ouo fni;^meiit from h\n drchm of liuman life, 
JSbapid liy liimni-lf with newlyle&rncd art; 
A wcddiitg or % fefltivalt 
A iiinuruinK nr a funertiit ; 

And tbiM hath now Ins heart, 
And unlD tliii he fmrnea his song : 
Then will (it hi« ton^uo 
To diiUngnea of buBiuess, love, or itrifB ; 
But it will not be long 
Era thii bo thriiwn ixshle^ 
And with new joy antl ptido 
The littl© Actor com anotbcr pnrt." 

1 tninscribethe following from the attractive pages 
of Dean Stanley (The Eaitltm Oinrehf Lect. vii, 
p, 224), whose authorities are Rufinns, Socrates, 
and Sozomen : — 

" ll'iM llrflt nppparanco in in a wellknown story, which, 
thoii|,;h doubtifd in btcr timoi from its stippoBed incon- 
gruity with the diiaiity of a great taint, has crery mdi> 
cation of truth. Aleiander, Binhop of Alcxundrm, w«* 
sntvrtatning his clerin^ in a tower or lofty house over' 
looking the oiponMs of sea beside the Alexandrian har^ 
hour. Ho obnerfed a gfroupe of children plajing on the 
•dgo cf the flboro, and wns stnicic by the gruvc appear- 
ance of their eamo, His attendant clergy went, at Ids 
ordsra, to catch the boys and bring them before the 
Bl»bop, who taxed them with horin^ plnyed at religioue 
€tr«nionit>s. At first, like boya cnujjht at a nii^chitTCmii 
lanie, thry denied ; but nt last conft-satd thut they had 
weu imttii,ting the sncram^nt of baptiRm ; that one of 
them hnti been selected to perform the part of Dirthop* 
and thht be bad duly dipped them in the sea, with nil 
tbt pmpcr questions and nddresses. Whea Alexander 
found that these forms had been ob»erTed» bo deter- 
mined that the baptism was valid ; be himiolf added the 

oil of confirmation ; and was 
fliruek with the knowUdge and gravity of the bo^r*) 
that he took hiia under his charge. This little ' 
Atbananoe ; already showing the onion of lei 
and vport whieh we fthall see in his alter Kfe» 
ebildith game is an epitome of the eocleslailieal f« 
of hts Lime and of hi« country. The cbildrvn plaj 
the shore, the old man looking at them with 
these, indeed, are incidents which belong to ei 
of the world. But only in the early centuries 
been found the immewion of the baptited, the 
of ^ Bishop to perform the ceremony, the 
freedom and superstition, which could regard as 
a sacrament so lightly performed. In the Coptic Chi 
is there the best likenesa of this Eaatem revi 
the fiacred act* of childrctL A child still draws 
in the patriarchal olectioni. By children is 
formed the greater part of thstr innocent childlik*( 

JoHK E. Bailst. 

Cleofatra (6^ S. iv. 468.) — The Pi 
Libniry of the city of Boston (Mass., U.S.A.), 
of the best niantiged and most progreaaiTe " 
tiona in this country, published January, 18' 
second edition of a Chronological Indtx to 
t&rical Fiction. In this an attempt, of 
imomplete, was made, for the first time tO,J 
knowledge, to collect and classify in chrom 
sequence the imniem»e moss of historical 
including prose fiction, phiy?i, and poema. 
tion X, is devoted to ancient Roman history, 
in it, under the cluxjnologiciii subdivision, 
century n.c., wc come to : — 

" Ctioptitra. Tra^^edieji by Shakespeare, At 
Cleopatra ; Henry Brooke ; Sir Charles Sedley, 
ths Conquerm- / Iiryden, All for Love (Antony^ 
ActiumU A\^er\ , Cltopntra ; Cforneille, Pompet, 
by C Cibber «« Cttmr in EqmyK Rnd translated 
Catherine Phillips and Edmund Waller : Marmont 
pdin ; Soden t Kleopatra / Thomas May; Dnuiel 
dolla, Cleopdtne Capttve; J. C. Lanaoy ; Lubenrtel8| 
Eoxas; La CalpTene^de ; Horn: Eotzebue; Ayrenl 
Sonmet; Mme. Emile de Gemrdin. Hcmnns, LiXtt Bai 
^utt of Antony and Cleopatra^ poem." 


Lotos Club, N.y. 

Mr. Matthkwb will find, on p. 31 of Poem* 
Tico Brothers^ a poem of four ten-line st 
" Antony to Cleopatra." Moth. 

Mr. ^fATTHEwa is referred to Tennyson*s , 
of Fair WoTmn, W. T. 


the choruses in Daniers tragedy of 
Also Thomas May's drama, C. K E 

S. Castlda (5"* S. iv, 4G8,>— I find the foUol 
infT reference in August Potthastj Bibliothi 
Ilisioricd Medii .^ri, IR625 p. 647 :— 

" De S. Gasilda Tirgino Burgis in Hlspania (fsec 
Papelrockii dissertat. in AA, SS. BoU. April, 
pp. 847-850." 

Edward Pf acock- 

Botteaford Manor, Brigg. 




RmaisTRxm SdcarM Eataviauuh (5»*> S. L 182 ; 
T. 73.)— A* ^ '^ V baa sent an appendix to hia 
original li h Old ifatliolic Bishops, it 

ttcems a gi' i niiy to offer a few corrections 

&nd iiddlt list. At the time the list 

nppeafed (:• i : i) I sent a copy of " N. & g.'' 

cootamLog it u* my iricml, Pfistor Rol of Utrecht, 
in Cbo bo^ that he would be able to complete it 
bf mibg m «oin« of the minor detaik of the con- 
•iUMiUill which A. S, A. hiwi been unable to 
■apply. pMtor Rol was not able to do this in ail 
CBSM, but returned the '' N. & Q./' having made 
iiu) foUowii: . ' iijns in A. S. A/a list^ viz,; — 

4, P. J. -■, elected July 2, 1739. 

6. J. vnn -^i ipuuiii, elected Mjiy 5 (not 15), and 
ooiisecmt^^d June 4 (not 11), 1745. 

8. W, M. van Nieuwen-Huijsen, consecrated 
Feh. 7 (not 6), at Utrecht, 

12. J. Nieuwenhuij.-?, elected July 39, IflOl. 

14. W. van 0*, com^ecmted at Amersfoort. 

15. J. Bon, elected Dec. 2, 1818, and con- 
Mcmted April 22, 1819, abo at Amerefoort. 

1*». H. J. van Buul, elected Nov. 2, 1841 (not 
1 cmt«d (on the date given by A, S. A.) 

u lUl. 

leijkarap, elected April IS, and oon- 
s^ ty 17, 1854, at Rotterdam. 

• Jong, elected Oct. 20, 1863 (not 1&62), 
Nov, 30, 1865 (not 1862), at Am- 

22. K. J. RinkeL The two priests who assisted 
Br 1 1 rr . ■ T. .. ,,, p in ^jj^ consecration of Bp. Rinkel 
T, V>rheij, Canon and Vicar-General 

{*^ - ; 1 Utrecht, and Johannes Harder- 

wijlc, the *»enif»r prle^jt of the diocese of Haarlem. 

... J. H. Reinken.^. The two German ecclesi- 
& supplied the places of the wan tin «t 

h^ e in this c&ae Professors Knoodt and 

_:;. John Heijkamp. The two asaiBtant coa- 
sccmtora were in thia case J. H. Reinkens, Bishop 
in Germany, and C. J. Mulder, Dean of Utrecht. 
The ' ' tors, or priests supplying the 

place • op, were, in the cxiae of — 

15. ^ "» I* C. tie Jong, Dean of Utrecht. 

18. 1 (Haarlem), Amoldus Stanislaus 

m " ^'' ' » vii, Archpriest of Utrecht. 

ijkauip (Dc? venter), Gerard Spet, Dean 


Loo« (ITfcrccht), Gerard Spet, Dean of 
i. ' : 

Haarlem), J, Hardcrwijk, Vicar- 
C- om. 

mention that in the account of 
jf Bishop Keinkens, published in 
il iig. 2o, 1873), it wa8 stated that 

IK who supplied tlie place of the 

w ' laid their hands on the head 

of junced the words, "Accipe 

Spin ; wu I r.MU'i u rj i . Aj thla seemed rather curious, 

I asked Pastor Rol about it, and hia answer yn 
aa follows : — 

" The priiiJt assittimt hi the ootLMcratioti of n bishctp 
does not, with as, pUcc his hand on the lieatl of the elect 
If he doea so, it is an error. I have my«elf twice seen a 
priest assistant do it; but it is not a nutter of ^cat 
iDonient. It ia the biahop alone who can give ' la per- 
fection de la prt'triM.' " 

I had, in asking the question, alluded to the 
Swedish Lutheran Church, where the bishops are 
always consecrated by one bishop assisted by two 

There is one other point of interoHt to which I 
may perhaps allude. Dr. Neale, in his BUiory of 
tin nO'CnlUii Jan^cnid Church of Holland^ men- 
tiooH that Bishop Bon of Haarlem is the only 
bishop uf that Church who has escaped excom- 
munication from Rome, and that he was afterwards 
Bominateil to the see of Bruges, in Belgium ; but 
from causes quit© distinct From ^* Janaenist '' con* 
troversiea, the nomination fell through \yid4 Neale, 
p, 350)« Dr. Neale, however, does not state what 
these reasons were which prevented Bishop Bon 
from becomin^j Bishop of Bniges. My friend has 
kindly explained the matter to me as follows : — 

"The Dutch Govemment wished to reunite us with 
Rome. Our bishops wore, according to aconcordnt, lo 
rMtjtn tljeir sees, and there wfu» to be then a Uinhop of 
Amsterdam for the Nortbom ProrinccM. Mngr. Bon, 
the one bishop who ws^ not excoromunicatod, was to 
become Biahop'of Brages so soon aa be had resigned for 
himself the »eo*of Haarlem.*' 

Political changes prevented the concordat from 
being carried out, and thus Bishop Bon did not 
succeed to the see of Bruges, and the " Jansenists" 
remain separate from Rome, 

Those readers of " N. & Q." who are interested 
in the affairsi of the Dutch ** Jansenists " will find 
some information in the Report of the Anglo- 
Continental Society for 1875, published by Messrs. 
Rivingtoas. T. M. Faixow, 

"HSt, (5"» S. iv. 443, 494 ; v. 17, 72.)-Suida8, 
Scapula, Hedrick, Eustathius — are th&sc the heroes 
that I have unwittingly attacked I NevertheleSB, 
I must tlefend myself, for I have gone too far to 
draw buck. 

I will first take our rendering of the passM© 
from Thucydides. The charges against it may oe 
chi.ssed under two heads : — 

1. It i«i paraphrastic and obscure. The first I 
admit. V, e were tttmskting the passage simply 
with a view to bringing out the meaning of >jiO»ji. 
Under any other circumstances, such a rendering 
would have been reprehensible, although I believe 
even an acute scholai* would be at a loss to express 
the sense of the Greek Iprirjly. The obscurity is 
not quite so great as Mr. Tew imagines, for after 
the verb "avow" the personal pronoun naturally 
refers to the subject of that verb. But even sup- 
posing that I fully admitted these defects^ IheY 



[5'*S. V. Feb, S/id. 

would not affect the meaning of yC'}}. A transla- 
tion nitty be parnphrastic aod yet correct ; whilst, 
the obscurity, Mr. Tew bimseff asserts, does not 
bear upon the adverb at aO. 

2. lanccaracy. To refute this chai'ge would be 
simply to repeat our first arguments. Let us see, 
then, whether Mr. Tew's translation is iinimpeiich- 
ttble on this point : " And by reiison of their 
ancient gmdge againbt the Lacedicioonians, the 
Athenians tooi them under their protection, and 
pliiced them in the city of NaupiictMs/' Kow, I 
am ratber curious to know which of these worda is 
the rcpreseutatxTe of >Joi/. Is it "ancient"? If 
so, Mr. Tew's translutioii certainly implies that 
the Athenians may or may not have acted 
prctioudjf on the score of hatred ; whereas I am 
willing to prove that ijoij points to thia being the 
first time they dared om^Uy to do so. And this 
is what we loexint by culmination^ or consunimfition. 
The hatred had long been smoiiklerinfj in the 
breasts of tlie Athenians, but the coi^stone waa 
not put on until the enemies of the Spartans had 
been bou&ed at Naupactus. This coincides with 
the context, and gives great force to it, and this is 
just what Mr. Tkv.'s tranaktioo fails to embody. 
The word " iivowing/' so far from being " an inter- 
polation (juite unc;dled for," is the keystone of the 

As I have asserted that Liddell and Scott's 
Lexicon does not satisfactorily e^jplain this word, I 
will try to show how it is so. Few articles in this 
Look evince such a lack of that humility of induc- 
tion, which causes the seeker after truth to await 
patiently the residt of his laborious investigations. 
At the outset, there is no one meaning of the 
word olfercd sufficiently abstract to embrace all its 
usa«:es. This is a fault sufficient in my opinion 
to vitiate the whole paissuge. For bow c^n the 
student in the present case expect an}- unity of 
thought to pers'ade the exphmations f I have 
sometimes been pu/^led almost to desp:mtion (I 
know not whether this is to my shame), after 
patiently wanderinjj throoj^h a muze of tortuous 
divisions and subdivisions, nnd I have tried in 
vain, on reaching the end^ to connect all the 
meanings or discover the root wbtcb threw off all 
these bnincbes. Take, for instance, the article on 
the word SoK€ii>. Can Mr, Tew explain how the 
K^coud class of meanings springs from the first ? 
The mind is left with little or no help to remember 
all these disconnected meanings as best it can, and 
he who baa the most capacious memory wins. 

I wQl conclude with asking only one more 
f|uestion. What is meant by the phrase, " the 
immediate past," in explanation (I) of vj^ij 1 Does 
it mean — but I can suggest no meaning for it 
whatsoever, in its present iiitnation. 

We did not arrive at our conclusion hastily as 
regards this word, and so it is hardly likely \hat 
<ither my friend or I should now throw it aside, 

having tmticipiited and carefully considered all the 
objections that Mn^ Tew raises, 


GuAL'TS (5tb S. iv. 4LK), 456 ; v. 77.)— C S. G. 
confidently aifiruis that ffhmtt cannot be another 
form of gate or gitt^ because the latter form *■»' • 
means a canal or drtiin for water, and has no ...... 

signification. I commend to his considerati 
following instance, which I found in alm< 
first book I consulted, viz., Richardson's 
(iry ;— 

•' You pafs a nirrow ^jut lietween two »tone temi 
thdt ro^p ahoTe your heftd, and which were croirn«dl 
a line of pjmmidBJ yewB." — Wnlpok, "On Gardeniiif.'' 

Will C. S. O. seriously contend that gut in 
pttssage means a channel for water I 

When we find in Icehindic the word qjitoii 
narrow lane, tjvking the same form as gj^ 
pour; when we find in Danish gyde^ a narrow f 
Bgain taking the same fonu as gydtf to pour, 
is the use of going to India for an expl 
that can be had from Denmark t 

I suppose that the Kpelling ghaut (of coiiif*] 
should be gfi^ii) originated with some one whobaj 
learnt a little geography itt school, and cAo« 
spell it so. It looks as if it originated with 
one ignorant of Anglo-Saxon, Icelajidic, 
Danish. What is the authority for it I 

Walter W. Sksat. 

Just one more instance of this curious 
One of the small streams which trickle throifl 
the old town of Hexham into the adjacent 
is called the Haligut, the mea.ning of which i»< 
vious. May not also the objectionftble word \ 
be derived fi"om the same sources, because 
serve as a thoroughfare for the digesting food! 

A channel formed long ago on the river 
below Carlisle, conducting at first a portion 
of the water by a shorter channel, but which 
now become iteelf the main channel, has, for 
century or more, been famous in litigation 
tween the Lowthers and the Corporation of f 
Usle as ''the Goat." R. S. FebousoS, 

Gowts is commented upon by Mr. W. BrooW 
in Tracts and MUceUanits rdativg to Lint 
Caiiudralf the City<, fa^He^ Falace^ Rniiu^ (t^rl 
vith aoittt Orifinni Letters and Curions Documtn^j 
hitherto Unpuhlulud ; — 

" Gowl, Ik filuice. from fjoovt^ as it ir luppoffcdbjri ^ 
but in Mr. Alb. IVey'i Dotes to the Pr. Parv. B|i. K« 
net is quoted as deriving it from the Old Dm. f) 
»crob(i. ^\T. Way, in n copious note, quotes a sUtaU 
Ucnry VIIL in which tbe * clowet, g«ttic<i, tfuUtP 
fjnattes,* &c., of Hsil! Imven^ ore mentioned ; iiJ«o h li* 
tnetttion <iftpttUs in the ch&anel near Rye {temp. Edw. V* 
t^ome^T'cUhirc inflances wre also iriven ; and he twl 
' 111 the Crarea dinlect, (/ait d^noiifB n chaonet of «»t 
from a mill dam, aa does goift in Hallnmsbire.' Ji 

9*av. r»D.Sk"6. 



ton ($ie) givct yoal nvd »pt, % tiuidl trenob or dram, A 
■inaltij' »urd occurs tn old FreucU, ' goute, gouttkre, 
egout.' " 

St. S with in. 

Til- .\m word j/ni^ cnuic into the Ian- 

he Miirathi j/nir, which is directly 
the Sanscrit ghoUa^ to move, to gi>. 
in Hmdilstaui does not iiietin '* a 
irnter enclosed and built round," as er- 
Ij- supposed by HorKLESS. It mean a a 
\% pUce, quay, or wharf ; a pass through the 
inotintaina, or the uiounLiiBS theuiselvfis ; also, 
steps down to the vater. 11. A. U. 


French {b^ S. iv. 449 j v. 58,)— Many intere^^t- 
io^ exumples of these inscnptions yet reiuain upon 
oamiweujomtive sepulchral slabs, which have been 
despoiled of their the indents on the fuce 
of each Sitone still showini,' the forms of the brasa 
1«ller« that once occupied them. Several snch 
fthib« iifte«i to lie in — I am uncertain whether they 
kive been '* restored" out of— the pavement in the 
li r of the abbey church of St. Albun, at 8L 
lis, I may abo specify one other skb of this 
oaj»T, uilaid originally with a brass emsB of sin- 
gula beauty of outline {m the indent still showa), 
the inarpnai in»criptioD upon which, cut in finely 
foruietl Lorabardic letters, may be read as followa; 

•h ICI « OI»T . DAMK . EVUA . IHi . SOVKAVT . mXR . 
1»S . X^KtX . BAHONS . DIKV . PAlt . iiA , I'lTlS « AV£Z . 

Emma, wife of Etchard FitJijohn, and afterwartla 
aC Boger de Montault, died a,d. IZ'M^ atid wixs, 
Imried ID the church at Stmdsett, in Norfolk, 
wliera thia slab to her memory, apparently in situ^ 
lies in the {mrement 

At Wootton- under- Edge, in Gloucestershire, in 
A ctufom »l«b, despoiled of its brasses, whicli, in 
addition to a lengthy marirfnal iuscripti&n in 
rbvTiim' T^itin, has a prec^aton- sentence so placed 
xi uito the shaft of a boldly outlined croas. 

' ^lera are Lonibardic, In the second 
of the shaft-sentence a supeili'uoua letter 
unintentiomdly to have been inserted ; 
I, consequently, th« allotted space on the stone 
Id not udout one letter (A) in the Jaat word, 
^vhicii letter has been cut on the stone beneath the 
place it ought to have occupied. 

I have not observed in " N. & Q." any notices of 
ftUbd deepoiled of their brasses. Such slabs, how- 
erer, exiit in considerable nuinbei*^, and still 
ibow the distinct outlines of comjw«;itionH, many 
of them unlike any tluit are known to remain 
p<»rfect» or (ompamtively perfect, not a few being 
Doth beautiful and intcrtsting. 


Tlie Temple, 

DoMiKCa iLLtrutJcATio MSA " (5"* S, iv. 487.) 
^▲s Ml Uliisiniioa of thla first being used na th« 

motto of the University of Oxford, allow me to 
Quote the following evtract from the Dedication to 
Lt:durc» on the I>iat€^saron, Oxford, 184S, by Dr. 
Mucbride, who waa then Principal of Magdalene 
Hall :— 

" When oar reformed UniYerfity fubstiiuted at th« 
Aubjecta of the L^'ctures of Bojohelon in Divinity the 
Epinties of 8t. Patjl for the Sentences of Peter Lombard^ 
HTid Hs^umed for her arms the Bible opened at P«idn) xxvii., 
Tkt Lortt is »M.v Lif/fih »l*e declared with our Church 
that tlio Word of God was her s^olc rule of faith."— P. rii. 
John PicKfORD, M.A. 

Newbonmo Rectory, Woodbridge. 

La Zouche Family (5*^ S, iv, 48a)— Kot 
having Courthope's HuioTxc Fctragt. I cannot tell 
whether the mistake in this pedi^jree is his or 
D. C. £,'8 ; but in Burke's Extinct Peerage, p. 94, 
it is plainly enough stated that Edward Burnell 
vi'as not the son of Joyce Botetourt at all, but of 
her huRband's first wife, Philippa de la Pole, and 
that Joyce Botetourt died .?.j*. Her aunts there- 
fore were her next heirs. 

Charles F. S. WARREy, M.A. 


Banks, in his Baronia Anglica Conccntratay 
aays, at vol i. p. 144 :— 

" In the clftini <if Mr. Norbome Berkelfly to the baronj 
of Botetourt, it aeenvB to have been there considered that 
this Juice Botetourt died *. ;p., bo that EiiwarJ must hove 
been a son of Hu;§!;h Lord Burnell by Bome other wife, for 
otherwise he (qy. his deacendunts) would hnve hud a pre- 
leifible clniin to that of Mr. JSorbornc Berkeley/' 

The quefstion arises, Who was the other wife ? 

W. E. B. 

The De CANTiLurE Family (5*^ S. iv. 487) 
came from Chanteloup, near Coutances*. Name 
synonymous with Cantelowe. In Battle Abbey 
Roll, Clmuttlmty appears in Holhngshead's, Chanti- 
htre in Duchesne a, and Caunitiow in Lelund's list. 
William de Cantilupe occurs in Normandy, 1124 
(Gall. Christ., xi. IGti) ; Walter de Cuntilupe in 
Lincoln, 113V) (Rot. Pip.). In llOt;, Wulter,. 
Roo:er, Ralph, nnd Simon de CiintOupe held liefH 
in England (Lib. Ki|f.). The period cf Glover's 
Roll being l!24()-5, the William de Cantdupe in- 
cluded therein wil-s the second barcm by tenure, 
8on and heir of William de Cantilupe, the first 
baron, living tanp. John, and who died in 1238. 

W^ E. B. 

Mr. Weston wiJl posaibly find Cantilupe 
{fhamjj-i^t-lonp) as the nnme of some barony or 
place iu France, See the dictionaries of Lamar- 
tinii-rc and Joanne, K. S. CnARyoCK. 


Bristol Cathedral Library (5**" S. v. 8.) — 
Your correspondent will find the information be 
seeks in the following extract from a valuable 
work, entitled Notu on the Catfudral Lihrarics of. 
England, by Beriah Botfield (London, l-Wii) :~ 




[5** S. V. Feb, 5, 71 

** The cbftpior-bouie, no much admired for the beauty 
•of its Sikxon architectupe, was at tb&t time^** ue,, tha 
time of the Bristol Riota, October 31, 1831, '* the reccp- 
ioclo f\f ftbout six or aevcn thousand volumeSrC^oaatitutiiQj^ 
the Jtbmry of the Deun and Chnptcr. 

" The lawless ruffianj?, who fired the tidjoimng pftlace, 
threw the greater number of these volumes into tbe 
flifflei; und the catalognJe, of which, unfortunately, no 
duplicate wom kept, tharcd the same fate/'—P. 1. 

Mr. Botfield adds that about eleven himdred 
Tohinies were subsequently recovered from the 
shops of marine-store dealers and other places, 
which are now in a building connecttHl with the 
eathe^lral. He gives the titles of a few of tbesc" 
vorks. H. BowElL 

JoriM Holland (6"» S. v, 29.)— If St. Swrrmy 

will COHHult^ — 

*' The Life of John Holland, of ShelBeld VttrV, from 
Numeroaa Letters and other Documenta furnished by 
his Nephew and Eiecotor, John Holland Hmmmall. 
By WiUiam Hudson. With Portrait and Illustrations. 
London : Loogmana, Orcca Ic Co., 1874, — 

which " N. & Q." has pronoimced to be " as fuU 
of interest im a novels" und *' whole^ionie English 
reading, every leaf of it," he will find an exhaustive 
iiccount of the amiable author of Cruciana, The 
Criipin Aiucdotes^ named by Jf r. Potter (v, 33), 
was also one of the muny books from Mr. Holland's 
I prolific pen. Geoboe Markham Tweddell. 
Rote (Jottttgo, Stokcfiley. 

Cruciana is one of the numerous works of John 
Holland^ of Sheffield Park, the friend and bio- 
grapher of James Montgomeryj who died at 
Sheffield on Bee. 2B, 1872. The title Cruciafta 
might suggest a belief that Mr Holland was 
thereby supplementing? the High Church movement 
4it the period of its pnblicjition ; but the sjuthar was 
neither " Papist nor Puritan," and ndvocated, in 
this volume of prose and poetry upon the subject, 
** CO idolatrous reverence for the cross under jvny 
modifications whatever," although it seems that 
this suspicion operated against the sale of a valu- 
able and handsomely got up book, What Mr. 
Holland did so well for his friend, the better kcown 
Sheffield poet, the Rev. W. Hudson has done for 
hirii, in his interestin;^ fA/c of John HoUanff, of 
Hheffidd Parkf published hj Longmans in 1874. 

J. 0. 

Lord CnANCELLOR Ellesmere (5"» S. v. 68.) 
— The work here mentioned, Certain Oheri^imis 
<ojucniinfj fhe O/AV/; of the Lord Chancdlor^ 
althoutrli admitted a a authentic bj Lownde."?!, is 
one of two attributed to Lord Ellesmere, which are 
questioned by Watts on the ground of " inaccumcv 
and composition," the other being the Spr.ech imich- 
ing tht Pod Nati^ which h also mentioned by your 
correspondent. It ©ppears that Lord Ellesmere, n 
«hort time before his death, gave certain '' hooks 
of his own, written by his own hand," to his chap- 

hitn, John Williams, afterwards Archbishop of 
York and Lord Keeper. Tliis is stated by Am- 
brose Philips in his LiU of Williams. And he 
adds that these manuscripts were '* collections for 
the well ordering of the High Court of Parliament, 
tlie Court of Chancery, the Stir Chamber, and tha 
Council Board," in which were comprised the main 
duties of the office of the Lord Chancellor. When 
WiDiame fell into disgrace, hiB library and all 
effects were seixed and dispersed. It would apj 
that &orae of these manuscripts may have 
into the hands of unskilful editors, and been pul 
iished. In a volume of manuscripts whick 
belonpfed to Archbishop Williams, 1 find a 
on the " Privileges and Special Rights bel< 
to the Baronafre of England.'' This is a 
subject with the collections speciMed by 
Philips, and the treatise may possibly have 
among them. NiORATiENsra. 

"Coming through the rte" (6«> S. v. 87.5 
The original version of this song, for which 
Americus inquires, is — 

" If a body meet a body goinK la the fair. 
If a body kiss a body need a bo<ly mre f '* 
The original entry at Stationers' Hidl was 
by Broderip & Wilkinson, music publiaheri 
London, on tlie 2rnh of June, 179G, in the fol' 
inpr words v — ** * If a body meet a body,' sung 
Mrs. Henley, at the Royal Circus, in the favourit 
now Pantomime called HarUfptin Mariner^ '^ 
music adapted by J. Sanderson, the words by 
Cross." A copy of this edition will be found 
the library of the British Museum {G 367). M 
Henley acted the part of Market Goody in 
pantomime. Cross was the author of several ol 
pantomimes, of a book called Ctre«*iami, 
Harkquin Mnrincr was produced for the CI 
ma^s of 1795-96. Wm. Chappell, 

There are three versions of the air. The 
accord in {J to Mr. Stenhouse, is taken from 
third and fourth strains of The MUhn-'s Dauqht^i 
a strathspey. The second set was idtered 
from the first by John Watlen, musician 
music-seller, first in Edinburjjh, then in I>ondf 
This Ls the best known ah". The third version 
adapted to a totally different set of words. 
G. F. Graham's Sonff* of Scotland, ii. 11. 

William George Black. 

Mirs.«us AND St. Luke (5"^ S. iii 44G.)— ! 
parallel between the passa;^'es, Luke LL 27 and tl 
Hero and Lmndir of Musoeus, i. 138-9, to whit 
attention was first dmwn by Mr. E. Tvffi 
is of much interest. One's feeling is perhaps 
little shocked by finding the same terms appUc 
to widely differing personages under widely ditfe 
ing circumstances. But I would ask your leanK 
correspondent, or any other well-read contribnt 
to " N. & Q.," if there be not a passage Tery simil 

8. T.FZB. £,?«.] 



I to the ftbo?« in the poetiy of Imlk^ referring to 
L^ke gods, I ltaf» an impre.^sion I have come acrosa 
^Bfeh TMoagp, but caianot remember where. 
^^ V. E. T. 

{We cKo Mrbrnpf make one step in the direction re- 
itre«l hf v. E. T. by the help of Mra. Manmng'a Anrxent 
' India, ii. 119. When tbo dirine JJmii, 
Lhe mountain ninialava and the nymph 
was twm a^&in, tbe destined bride of heii.7en'i 
A king, Sim, the t>ccurrcnce wwt celebnted hj 
grstal»Cioti, thus done iutu Eogliali : — 
Hi limt hoar, and all the world was piy^ 
Wliea JfcaA'* aaughtcr taw the light of day : 
A TM glotr fiU'd all the brigbt'uing sky, 
Aa Motvoi bnexe camo sweeping softly by. 
Af«»lli*d mmd the bill a sweet uu»rthly itrain. 
And the glad hoarens poor'd down their flowery rain."] 

IB ClMMKRIASlS XKB CatacoMBS (5**" S, V. 

One of the latest, and also earliest, accounts 

e Cimnierians ib to be found m Smith's In- 

MW* of Assurb^tnipalj col. 3, pp. 332, 333, 

Gygea, King of Lydiu, Is repreaented us 

two Cimmerian chiefs, Trhom he had taken, 

d "in strong fetters of iron and bonds of 

■ to Asaurbanipal, and afterwards the Cim- 

come and Aweep the whole of his country. 

me sugjjeat that Cwmr}' or Kyniri nic&ua 

1 J nieiL of the acms or comfjes^ a.s spelt in the 

th — Anylidj glensnien or daiesmen. 

X 1^. Haiq, 

"Skid" (5«» S. iv. 120, 335, 371.)— The Swedish 
▼Ofd tkid never sfgDifies a skate, hat may, per- 
Inps^ be tmnslattd "snow-shoe." In Sweden a 
Jstd ii A h>ng, thin, light, and smooth Btrip of 
wood, wbich is bound under the foot, the wearers 
adwiji reQiiiring, unlike skaters, the oftsistance of 
A pole to aelp themselves alonjr over fields of ice 
r. The phrases *'att h>pa pA 8kid,"**att 
pi tkidor,** mean *^ to run upon snow-shoea." 
Swedish word for ideate is Mkridsko (skrid from 
Tcrb slrida = IceL skrHSOj A.-S. icriiSan^ 
tchreitai, EngL Dial, xkridt or scridt; 
,1 — r j,,„y »^,.^ p^ pj^ skridskor" means to 
Skkat's remarks are lulminible, a!i 
^ tire. I especially desire to join in the 
rit remonstrances, to which he has bo fre- 
Uivtri uttrrimc, against ignorant dabbling 
nH? no surprises Americans 
iJimiry attempts at "deri- 
««&ia& " which thvy so constantly hear ol. 
I su^ggest to all persons afflicted with the 
** derivAliom " mania a careful study of Wei- 
gaud's VtuUfht4 WoTiethtuhy the new edition of 
wbidi is appro; I ' upletion. Just such 

m wwk to mir o» i would be the greatest 

possible boon to ituuL m . ot Kngliiih. 


e Cornell Unirtrwtf , IUuma, U.S. 

^ >ctsjc Latbau {^ g, iv. 513 ; ▼. 56, 78.)— 
"■ddilion to the works on this taUitica already 

fjiTcn in yonr columns there have been the follow- 
ing^ and there baa also been an Knglisb edition of 
Dr. Lefebvre's book by myself, published by 
Richardson & Son, London, 1B72 : — 

1. " Les Stigmatiseeii : LoQiBe Late^u do Boii d'Haime 
et Paltna d'Oria/* Par Docteur Imbert Goorbeyra, 
2 vola. Paris, 1S73. 

2. •* LaStigomtisfiedeBoisd'Hftine." Par Miyr. ••♦♦. 
Parii. 16TI. " Rcctt d'une vigito foitc i la Stigmaiis^e." 
Par M. TAbbt: de MconevaL 

3. "Louise I^teau van Bois d'Haine, een ittudiebetid 
Toor do positiere wet«nBThap.** I>oor A. J. Hiko, Amiter- 
dam, 1872- 

4. " Excursion k Bob d'Hahae." Par M. X, LUle, 

In answer to Apis, Louise Lateau still continues 
to exhibit the same phenomonii, the ecstasy occur- 
ring every Friday, with bfemorrbage from the feet, 
hands, side, and he^d. Within the last few weeks, 
however, she has been growing; gradually weaker, 
and when I last heard was at the point of death. 

As regards the letter of Dr. Boens^ of Charleroi, 
in the Mtdicul JouTnal^ I am not in a position to 
give a categorical denial to bis assertion thjit she 
is an impostor. I must, however, record my iirra 
conviction in the truth of Louise Lateau 's case, for 
I can never believe that such a heroine of charity 
as she ha.s proved herself to be in so many circum- 
Btances of her life could ever have lent herself to 
such a miserable fraud as Dr. Botns would have 
us believe. 

Dr. Lefebvre, who is one of the most able men 
in Belgium, has had every opportunity of making 
a full and complete study of her case, and some of 
the te^ts he made use of were such as to inllict the 
mast excruciating pain. At first distrustful — for 
he acknowledges that at the outset he looked upon 
her as an impostor — he finidly tUclarcd that the 
bypoliesis of firaud must be absolutely discarded. 

Alore than a hundred medieid men from all 
parts of Europe have examined Louise Lateau, and 
all, with scarcely an exception, accept her case as 
genuine. J. S. SHErABD. 


Apis may like to add two English works to hin 
list :— 

" liouiic Latean. the Ecstatica of Bols d'Hainc-Trani- 
lated from tbo French by J. 8, 8hepard ; with m brief 
iketch of se?eraJ fonntr oaau of tb« tUM Ofttore. Lon- 
don, 1872." 

This contains only a portion of Dr. Lefebvre's 
work. Dr. Korthcote, of Osctitt, has published a 
fall translation, which was brought out by Burns 
&; Gates in 1873. 

Dr. Imbert Gonrbeyre announced, in the Vni- 
rcn for December, 1871, his inteotion of publish- 
ing a work entitled L'Hisloire, de^i StujnuitiiffJt d€ 
Bou d^IIainc tt d'fhioy but 1 do not know whether 
this was ever carried out. James Britten. 

British Museum. 

An article entitled " Louise Lutean, a Biolo^caL 



[5*'' S. V. F£ 

Study," by George E. Day, M.D.^ F.R.S., late Pro- 
fessor of Medicine nt the University of St. Andrews, 
appeared in Macmillan's Maijazine for April, 1871 i 
and htm been recently reprinted, " with a short 
record of additional fiicts," by W. Parke, High 
Street, Wolverhampton^ pp. 24. 

Wm. Pbngellt. 

[LouiM Lateftti hm died ainct the above lines were 
written. 8o we learn from our worthy French contem- 
pomry, L'Intetinediairf. Jean Wejer (Piscinuriua), in 
that journal, believes that Louise Latcau suffered from a 
malady which wms aUowed to make progreu, and that 
she was not consciously an impostor. The Iniepntdiairt 
recommends two works to the peniml of all interested 
in Buch incidenla aa the above :— '* Louiee Lateau, ou la 
Stiismatisi-e Be'ge," par 1e Dncteur Boumeville (Pari*, 
DeJahaye}, and ** Le Christian iatne au XIX. Biecle" 
(Parit, Grasaart), which cootaina two or three articles 
on Ibis case.] ^ 

Letters and Papers, Forngn and Domutict of the 
Jieign of tfcnrtf VIII. Preserved in the 
Public Record Office, the British Museuni, and 
elsewhere in England. Arranged and Catalogued 
by J. B. Brewer, M. A. Under the direction of 
the Mnstcr of the Rolls, and with the snnctioD 
of Her Majesty's Secretaries of Stjite. Vol. IV. 
In t ro<l ti ct io n and A i>pen di x . (Lo n gmana & Co. ) 
In nearly eeiren hundred pages Mr. Brewer reviews 
the momentoua incidents of the years 1524-30. 
These pages will he read with the utmost interest, 
both for the importance of the .subject iiud the 
ability with which it ia treated. We feed, however, 
that Mr. Brewer has gone aomewhat beyood the 
limitji ^^ithin which the editors of this ^eat na- 
tional series are bound to keep. The nation psvys 
for the urrnnglng and printing; of the C4i]endars 
which are intended lo facilitate the researches of 
historians ; but it never intended to atford oppor- 
tonitiefj to the several editors to pnt forth their 
own views on fwlitics or religion. Mr. Brewer 
would be justified in maintaining the opinions to 
which he givea brilliant expresfiion in this Intro- 
duction, in any volume which he choae to publish 
on his own account ; but we think he lisis over- 
leapt his right in a work which ia directed by the 
Master of the RoDa, and is sanctioned by Her Ma- 
jesty's Secretaries of State. On these officials 
weighs a responsibility which should be borne in 
mind by the editors in whom they place confidence. 
We aay nothing of political questions, but refer to 
n religiouH one. Mr. BrewePa pages^ illustrating 
his own view of "the tme origin of the Reforma- 
tion," will be contested by ten out of every twelve 
readers ; and all their chanu of style, or honest 
earnestness of expression, C4»naot pei^uade us that 
they here have a fitting ptace. We notice this 
mistake with profound regret, for it is painful to 
evea hijit censure f^inet an editor to whom the 

public on 30 many o<:casioQ3 bos been i 

The (/era Linda BooJi. From a Man user 

Thirteenth Century, with the Permiss 

Proprietor, C. Over De Linden, of ih 

The Original Frisian Text, as Verified 

0. Ottenia, accompanied by an EngUal 

of l>r. Ottenm's Dutdi Translation. 

R. Sandbach. (Triibner & Co.) 

FsTo English, through the Dutch, from tb 

we have here a& wonderfid. a narrative i 

Triiboer & Co. have ever given to tl 

The translator allows that it is not ea 

whether the Frisian MS. is genuine (no o 

that it is old) or a forgGr5% The deta 

simple and trutii-Uke as those ia Itohimc 

but nobody can go further than allowir 

i»emhhioce. The Book is better wort! 

thtm Le Voyage dx Jeune Anacharsidf 1 

is not dry or pedantic, and it is as miu 

anything Peter Wilkins tells about t 

women. We can only add that PaOa 

will have to look to her pedigree, for Ih 

Minerva, we are told, was a maiden from 

But let readers hasten to open this volt 

endorse the words in the Introduction y 

that ** there is nothing in the Booh tha 

ftcquainted with before." 

AuTUons AMj QcoTiTroNS Waittkd,— 
'* Forgrivc, blest Rhade, the tributary tear 

Thut. motirni thiuo exit from a world like 
** They dreamt not of n perishable home, 

Who tliu« could build." 
"If tliou would'st learn to lore, 1 

Thou first must tearti to hate." I 


Athwart the darkness, shaping man." 

•'Angela ever bright and fair, 

Take^ oh, take me to your care ! *' 
"If the ioul immortal be. 

Is not its love immoral tool" 
" I cftnnot. Lord, Thy purpose see, 
Yet all is well since ruled by Thee 
" I heard a little bird sing 
That the Parliament captain was going to 1 
" When the news came from NottitiKham, 
Tho standard was unfurfti ; 
lien's hearts were in their mouths, I wis, 
^Men's braiuB in tumult whirrd.'* A- 

" A ti 
Sucks kindlier nurture from the soil cnri 
By its own fallen lenves, and man Is mad< 
In heart and spirit from deciduous hopes. 
And things that seem to perish." 
Shortly after the Duke of Wellington's fi 
Dtijf t>ftht Funeral was publiahed. Who was 1 

'• Be good, and let who will be clever; 
l>o noble thing*, not dream lliem, all daj 
Thus raakirij^ life and the great vast for i 
One graud sweet song." 

ft. V.FcB. 5^,711 



tti Lord 8«)dwicli.— 
■ MM mrenied U&lf a coat, 
Thrnber liair % dinner" 

writtea on the abore noblemen 1 
8. £. J. 

t«» Bam pft ccdad fchoiv qaoted ? 
*' Wlnt tboof;^ my eaten be poor, 
Tkke ihem \n good p«rt : 
BeCler cheer may you haTe, 
But noC ^tth better be&rt" J. J. J. 
Ipv ftfl world would ope itt balf-elo«d ejet, 
MCit and actors cridcize ! '* 

A. G. D. 
Soft baltn J aleep, 
TiMfomh emblem of the d^ui/* kc, 

E. P. 
Th« frost looked forth one itiU clear ni^ht" 

Cbables Elkiji Matuews, 

Wei of til 

WHO DA VI PArLBH*"— C. B. T, »endt us 

tbo following extract from a letter from 

iloMiio Mitford, 1823 {Corretpondence, ja$i pub- 

bf bu ton) :— " All the critic* in the patMsn arc 

■al pocii^ pmtoUT9, and tragedy writers who bare 

fiMl4^ A Meeesafui tragedy, and by a lady, rouaee their 

I, and dAfnnfttion ij their only bulrn. Be 

iw'* What we really want now are earlier 

than thoae already produced io " N. k Q."— pa«aages from Dryden and Joe Haynet, in the 

^IhMttnQi centiiry. 


<i..- 5»* S. ii. 105. O. L. H., OreenTiIle. Ala., after 

vnttf attention to the fact that the book adtrertiaed 

Mr. Hottea as the complete works of I'oe does not 

itkki wmc of the poet's lise^t prodactionf, remarks 

"w complete colleotion of Poe'a writinp ha* yet 

pablbheci, eren in America,'^ and points out thai 

tlitect native edition doej not include the papers on 

'««gi»phy'* and "cryptography." The papers ho 

kotiooa, together with several others not in the Ameri- 

^a« eJicionj, are contained in the complete edition uf 

'*• vorki publi*hed by Messrf. A. k Q, Black, of 

Ifa^nrgb, and edited by Mr. John H. Ingnm. 

ii iAteresiin^ addition has just been made to the 

■fcetifflft of poTtraiti in the rooms of the Society of 

|^qB*xies. Mr. OaTry, the new President, baa Just 

PnwiUed to the Society a capital portrait, by Dahl, of 

"Mliiai Oldys^ It is the picture mentioned in the Uttte 

^mt, Solei cm and 6y Oldtfif reprinted from *' N. & Q." 

*<Be few yean since; and our readers will agree with 

«f tkt it could not have found a more appropriate 

I '*%-place. ^ ___^ 

^tttitti ta CarxeipQnistnii, 

OliUcoQununications should be written the name end 
^^nm of tbo sender, not neeessarily for publication^ but 
'**i|unuQ(M of good faith. 

Tiu^u G.— Perhaps this reply will be of more use 

^i tiie insertion of so long a query, which would lend 

1^ Bi*lefs controversy. In Father Newman's Ldtcr to 

\^' Gladstone, published a year ago, the writer, at [>. *-j3. 

tjjwjiesthft infallibility of Pope CJregory XI IL when he 

[^ a medal struck in honour of the Bnrtholomi?w 

of Paul IV. in his conduct towards Elizabeth ; 

t*f Sjitas V- when ho blessed the Armada : and of 

Trban VIII. in persecating Galileo. See also p. IW, 

fof iKe case of Pope HonoriuB. This pontiff had snp- 

r' : > in two formal letters the opinions of Sergiu<9^ 

' 1- rrh *'f Conftiantinople, who had been declared by 

'^-il. caih Council ijuilty uf heresy for holding? a certaiTi 

HiKCHae ub the personality of Jeaus Christ. Uonorius, 

above forty yeais afUr his death, was condemned bv 
anathema a* a heretic for his entire concurrence with 
Serginii's opinioo. Father Newman allows that thi« is a 
strong ffrimdfactt argument against the Pope^s doctrinal 
infallibility ; but he sets aside the argument by f>tatin^ 
that Hooorius wrote the two letters, not as pope, but as 
a private bishop, 

J. U. R. wishes us to make a note of tbe ** novel fact " 
that a performance took place last week at the Durham 
Theatre for the benefit of Tbomley Church. Tbe pro- 
ceeding was under the patronage of the Re?. Wm. Mayor 
(the vicar) and tbe church wardens, and appears to hare 
been very successful. The "fact," however, is not 
"novel." When OUo was played at Ox:ford in 1713, the 
sum of 5^. was given otjit or the receipts " for the repain 
of St. Marr's Church," Throughout the century we find 
records of benefita for the building or repsiring of 
churches and chapels, for opening vsirds in hospitiUs, for 
sufferers from fire, for redeeming men out of slavery, and 
for Lying-in Hospitals in vrant of funds. 

llEiTBT B.— " Lord Mayor." The prefix of « lorxl " Is 
commonly said to have been granted by Edward HI, to 
tbe mayor of London in 13f>4. In that year, Thomas 
Leg^e. ancestor of the Earl of Dartmouth, was chief 
maf^istrate. The late Mr. B. B. Orridge {Som« A<xovm 
nf ikt Citi^fTLt qf London and iktir RuUrg, Tegg k Co., 
1867) says, " Lejzge lent money to Edward IIL end married 
the daughter of Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warvtick. 
He was behesdedin 2381 by the partisans of Wat Tyler.'* 
The title " lord mayor " is now home by the chief civic 
ofGcor of London, of York, and of Dubliu— only. 

F. B. D.— At the time alluded to, "pardons " of con- 
victed prisoners were granted to maids of honour and 
other r^rsons about Court If the prisoners could buy 
their pardons of those who held the power to j^rant them, 
they obtained their freedom ; otherwise, they were eold 
to the TraosatUntio plantera 

C. A. W.— The Eev, Hamilton Paul's book was entitled 
Paul'g Firtl and Second EpisUu to tkt dearly litloTed tkt 
Ffm*il<! DiiripUs or Ftmalt StudtnU qf Natural PkUoio- 
fj/ti/ in Anderson i Imtituiion, Oltugovti. It i» scarce; so 
ij his edition uf Bums, 1819. 

" Clostirf."— Our correspondent, writing from this 
classic ground, will And the best iiccount of the wreck of 
tlic troop*sbip Birkenhead, off Simon's Ray, Africa, in 
the TiewiipHpers and other periodicals of the periud, 1SG2. 

H. T. TiLLET,— Please forward us the instance of the 
bell with roynl head on It, referred to by Mn. ELLicojdtix, 
in time for our next number. 

GeKEALOrilsT is requested to send his name and address. 
These should always be written on communicjitidnB, 

F. B. D.— The story in question is the result of a 
novelist's imaginatioii. 

T- T. T.— The foolish prophecy is well known, snd 
is modem. 

<ji.— ■" For fools rush in/' Pope, Euoy on Critiamf 
iiu «i6* 

C— In the description of the »hipwreck in Doit Juan. 

C. C. — "Curious Hookn " ii merely ati udvertisement. 

W. S. J.— The cpituph is by Heu Juikoii. 

C. S. K., G. E. C . una W. G. B.-NoleJ. 

A. G. D. (Melbourne) -See i'*'" S. iv. 'M(K 


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[>blK of which the above iai the title b 
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reruiuTTiH for the production of tilings. 
the DAttirc of the soil or tho genina of 
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|MiMrW|he New Eaghmd piiic — 
HHHI^Mbr masts " : tlmt '^ hees- 
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It pcnon who shall erect un apiary for 
g^ thut "aeren hundred pounds will 
^bcoumge the rabing of hemp in all 
Ka and Wales/' 

^Be olf o offered for strange objects : 
■pounds for inrenting the best mc- 
TCctly purifying cloude*! cornelians or 
'fifljr pounds for the diacovm' of any 
f>o«itioa of a very stront;; and lasting 
Umj laarkijig of sheep, which will benr 
, proper time, and not damnge the 

wool, as pitch, tar, &c., do ; to be produced oa or 
bit fore the last Tuesday in February, 1762." 

Some of the "premiums for promoting polite 
arts" are, it must be confessed, hurgCt wlien we 
recall the prices for which Hojfarlh sold his pic- 
ture*. Thu?, for the best drawing in chalks, from 
A sLttue, twentj'-tive guineas lum promised ; and 
for the best drawing of a landscape from nature^ 
with chalk, pen, indian ink^ or bbter, tlurty 
guineaa. And the other premiums for drawing 
tuid en;;niving are in proportion as large. Paint- 
ing doed not, however, receive much encourag«>nient. 
r)nly one hundred guineas are prfimised " for the 
best original hi.storical picture, the subject to be 
tiiken from British historj' only, cont4iining not 
leaa than three human figures us large as life"; 
and Hfty guincaa " for the best origin^ landscape 
on a caoTos six feet four inches long and four 
feet six inches high.'' This is remarkable ; nor 
are the conditions under which the pictures are 
admisaible less so. We are told, — 

" Proof mu^t be made to the Rntisf action of tho society, 
that th« >vhole ofeAch picture vru pitrntcd in England, 
and nnce the Ibt of January, 1701. The picturea to be 
delivered without framea to the register of the society, 
on or before tho second Tuesday in March, 1762 ; and 
those which gttin promiumA must romam with the so- 
ciety two months alter tlie decieion," 

<)oe hundred guineas is the i>rcmium offered 
for the best life-size statue in uiarble. 

For silk gloves and niita, like the French, a 
premium of thirty guineaa is promised ; and an- 
other for knitted hose. The following is also 
curiaua. A premium will be given — 

" For the best carpet in pftttcm, ralours, and work, 
made in the loom upon the iirinciplc of the Turkey car- 
peti, in any workhouse or hou«e of ch-^rity^ by Vroioen or 
girls rrlw imve not been employed before in any sach 
work or raanufacture, the same not being 1cm thnn two 
and a half yards long and one and a half broad ; to ba 
produced on or before the socond Tuesday in December, 
17tjl> fifteen guineaa. For the second best, ten Kuineait. 

"N.B. A certificate wilJ be required of the directors or 
Kovemon of such workhouse or charity house, or any 
three of them, thut the same w»9 made or manufacture^ 
by women or children auTtpurtcd in such workhouse or 
charity houfe, and uiuler tiie circumstAncea above men- 

In the next pag* — 

** A strong clotli beini? prenarad in Sweden from hop 
stalkf! or hinda. the sgicicty wiil give a premium of fifty 
pounds for the best and j,;raate«t quantity of such clotli 
(not iess than one hundred and fifty ella), made in Eng- 
Jandf and produced to the fociety on or before the second 
Tuesday in December. 17 Oh 8econd premium, twenty- 
five pounds. 

♦'The hop stalks or binds aru to be collected in au- 
tumn, put into water, and covered therewith the whole 
winter* In March they are to be taken out, dried in a 
BtoTo, and dressed as fldx. The ]irepared filaments will 
be fme. toft, and white, and may be spun and woven into 
cloth. Hop stalks require a longer time to rot thau 
flax ; and if not completely tnaferated the woody part 
will not separato, nor the cloth prove white and £jie/* 

Thirty pounds are offered for the best model of 

"A tttild medAl will ht pven for ibt I1C0I trMtiao oa 

the B.rt« of iMfftce, cont&ining an hiatorica) account of 
Uie pM'iprewtTe ituproTemettU of a^rrictikure, mtuiufuc- 
turw, and cotumerce, in that part of Great Britain called 
BniclAnd, with tho ejects of those improvemfnts on the 
nxmtii and manners of the people, and pointing out the 
inri«t practical meant of their future adrancemenc. All 
trt-attM-f iu \yo Milt in to the society on or before the 

•econd Wednesday in December^ 
Athford, Kent 

KkLvn N. Jamjcs. 





(CoHiinH&tfrom p. 82.) 

Otiifftkind — " Le sysi^mc de iucce«sion en usage p&nni 
Ion Helt'tt irisndais, et que les juristea aDf;lai« ont appel^ 
ffati'' ' ' iiible A cclui qu'on rencontre dans les 

com. 'L- fainille ou zadrut/<u serbe*/' — E. de 

Lav /,.» Diux Mondft, 15 Arril, 1875, p. 79J>. 

GktiiuUnttHi (Enu;l. genially), — *'C«tto peinture si 
gvuialemsnt ani;laiM/' — Tb« Gautler, Lt$ StauxArlt en 
Enrop*, f ol. i. ii. 13, 

Ofnil<man (u8«d at on adjfctirc). — " C'est un art par- 
ticulier H art anglaiil, raffinti ju«(^n*4 la maniere, bizurre 
)a»qii4 la cbinoiteriep mats totiuours aristocratlque et 
g«Dt1i'man/*— Id. ifcuf., L 7. 

Ow—'* Mias RoTol ... vvtnait d*ftnpifer aa 10m met de 
In collino dauB un ffip qu'elk conduirait elle-m/'Uie."— 
V. Cherbiiltez, Mitt Rovtl, \l ; Rev. d<$ DtMX Moadu, 
16Dio„ 1874. p. 7::a 

(VrainiB/?.— " En Angloterre on en trouve une autre 

Mpiccfjiuc leiaoteura nomment Graining Pournouf, 

to Ofiixninp C6t Ic l>nrd fran^'^i^^. ou une Tarittt iiiKignili- 
anlo de IVip'-'ce.**— H, do La Blanchcre. in Dr, Chenu, 
Ltt Trois fUgnei de la Xaturif, l^'IS, p. 389. 

fhttnbaek — '* A Toir comment tous ces gens d^psnuent 
lu§ /jrecnbach et les jettent au rent, on dirait qu'iU n'ont 

S[u'rt frnppcr rfu pied pour les faire sortir r?e terre."— 
J. Simoiiin, Jttv. dtt Dfux Mondr$. V Atril, LST3, p 570. 

I'JauT., 1875,1 
notre campeme 
luiaret [d'Hcbr 
E. Melclior de 
Rew. dtt Deux J 

librement sur k 
federal t n retov 
loi de hoiauiUac 
a Uquelle a dro 
(ttc. cii , V AtHI 

tJommork {9i 
naircment un 
d'une ipaisse ' 
litrue da Deux 

prtccdu d'un dt 
hort€fj>'.ard4^ U 
R^Tille, Lt M<tj 
Rctiu da Deux 

Humbug, — " I 
i\ Tit d'expc'diet 
15 Mam, 1875, 1 

IIumii*ock. — " 
dea montagnes I 
Blanchirc, in I> 

loherg,— ^* Di 
vmina} 6c beui 
ngglom orations 
rautre."— J. Oa 
1S75. p. 712. 

Jncorpori (wi 
which does not 
moment aussi * 
enfans des rues 
ansapri^a elle £1 
par un acie de h 
L. Simonln, lor. 
Tille [Chicago] 
organisation m 
1' ATfil, ISTfl, p 

incumhtni, — *' 
dcpiiis psn Yin 

—i !J rn L_ 



4i Kiiig-Charlei.""J. La Valine. Za 

'i« nom de A''ntl&br&r)c2yr...eert A 

ftux Etatt-Unii les dcMendana 

nd&is. Ce nom. qu'nucun dlc- 

ei duQi on ctnnait encore mobii 

How far i« th« Mtertion correct) 

JiMSon'i Dicttanary of th* French 

nillan k Co., 1874 : ♦' Kmcker- 

f/'], parait aroir ^le primi- 

dcmnnit aux calotte* courtea que 

iinm!grftiu."--L. Simonin, loc. eit, 

-" n rXtiwlcon III] n'*ntendftit put 
liptra ue Habflboarg «t Tairc r6gner 1« 
■ do »md juaqu'^ TAdrifttique, ainti que 
Ehment ikdinis lea iDtrmsigcftHi et I&i /-now- 

Iapp de nfttionalitd."— Julian Klaczko, 
J Jtn, del Deux Mondet, 15 Aouk, 1875j 

He>f.i GAUSSKBoar. 
(To he continmd.) 

jjr's letters were no less remark- 
firatltj than for quality, the Times 
htm *s "countless" imxlels of pure 
fc 1847 Josepli Cottle, of BriHtol, 
^mber of Southey's letters in his 
^Ki:^ ^mucl Taylor Coleruige and 
^g,- six voliiTnes of Southey's Cor- 
W$tepnh\lBhvd in 1849 by his son, the 
I Cuthbert Southey ; and four more 
ed Tohtmes were issued in 18f>6 under 
ip of the poet's son-in-hiw, the Rev. J. 
&r, B.D, ; yet I believe a large nuuiher 
letters remain tmprtnted. I enclose 
»py of one in my posaesaion, which Js 
teristic, and may be interesting to 
& Q." 03 showing the laureate's 
rh»t kind of poetry wiis saleable, 
" the nf> market-T»lne of "minor 
_ "Keiwick, MajlO, 1816. 

fmobnhly learnt from tbe novripap^r* that 
Den your packet arrived we were auffcr tng 
eriMt of all afflicticin.«i, tht low of our ooljr 
> son one of the mo«t boiivful tn tyeTV 
rer parents wore blest with. Under iuch 
only a firm, a liTelj, and an abiding faith 
>port us. 

iror« in tnj power to render any Berrico to 
[ra. St«ele, or to olTer her anj ueef ul ailrice. 
ponMisee great ({Qniue, and vamnj pttrts of 
\ Tcry beautiful both in feeling and ex- 
Ottld not say this unlets 1 thought flo> But 
kallen are not fond of publishing poetry 
from some known Dtme. for otherwise not 
fifty pays the expense of pubticatloa. 
tfective m story* The beat way, as it appeara 
sh your friend could exercise and iuprore 
^ taking some story from Romivn^ Eutem, 
~ clothing it in Terse. Great poeta bare 

not disdained to do thu. Id ilbti way I feel confident 
that, iTiV/i hir powfn, abe wonld diatinguisb herself 
greatly, and the habit« of narrative, invention, and 
arrangement would gradaatly be Required. It would bo 
doing injuBtice to my own feelings if I did not rejicat that 
the present rolume lieara the be^t marks of promise, and 
that every person to vihoin 1 hare shown it has admired 
it very much. 

*' >li(.ry is a sad inralid ; the greater pjirt of her time 
ia p&fsed in a state of suffering from complaints which in 
no degree endanger life, but deprive it of almost all cnjoy- 
njent. There are^ howeTer^ interrala when, it appears as 
if she ailfd nothing. Robert i* atill with Mr Ponle ; hia 
apprenticeship will expire next year* and tbea, of course, 
we fhall be anxious concerning him. He has been 
seriously indispoicd ibis spring with an obstinate cough 
of some montlts* Btanding, which is now giving way. 

" For ouraclveii, till this lute affliction (the heaviest 
which could pos»ibty have befallen us), no persons were 
more abur;da,ntly blessed. And we have stilJ more 
bleiaings thin fhll to the lot of the greater pari of man- 
kind, though the flower of our hopes and hapiiinobs is 
cut off. We afo both beginning to show the hand of 
time. My own head ii thickly sjidnkled with grey hairs, 
but the Ittst two months have done more townrds de- 
priving mo of a youthful hilarity of spirits than the 
cuurse of years perhaps would ever have accomplishtd. 
Wc have four girla, the eldest has just completed her 
twelfth year, the youngest is about three ; they are all 
in good health at present, and as happy as they can be. 

"Mary and her iisters Join in kindest remembrances, 
— Iklieve me, yours very sincerely, 


*' Wo should be truly rejtijced if any circum^jiatico 
should ever lead you this way." 

Adiiressed :— 

"To Mlfa Lovell. with Benjamin Ball, Esq., 37« Leeion 
street, Dublin." [Postage, 1#. 'Id.} 

This Miss Lovell was a aiater of Southey's 
brother-in-law, Robert Lovell, of whom I gave n. 
short account in " N. & Q./' 4*»» S. v. 17!. She 
died nboiit aeven years ago, upwards of eighty 
years of nge, being remarkable for iwasesaion of 
all her fiicultiea and great clearness of memory. 
The Matv referred to in thia letter was the wife of 
Koberfc LoveU, and sister of Southey's first wife. 
She resided at Keswick, with the poet, and 
*' there," says the Timti, "she found happiness 
until his death." Her son, Robert Lovell the 
younger, Southey apprenticed, and took a warm 
interest in hi« Widfsvre untd hh mysterious fate in 
1830 (see " N. & Q.," ut iUfrm). 

Who Mrs. Steele was, of what works she was 
the author, and whether she carried out Southey'« 
ad V ice, I have no means of knowing. Presumably 
other readers of " N. & Q." are more fortunate, 
and hence the possible interest of this letter to 
them. S. R. Townshend Mayer, 

Klchmond, Surrey, 


The Intluence of Folk-Lore oif a F.B.S. 
— The following? extract from the Antohimjiaphif 
of Dt. a. B, UranvilU, M.D., F.R.i^. (LondoD, 




H. S. King & Co., 1874\ may be fitly presented to 
the readers of " X. & Q." :— 

" Some of my readers will feci disnoecJ to laugh oat- 
right at a learned doctor admitting no is an inveterate 
believer in all sorts of popular suptmtitidns, forebodings, 
and presentiments. I am alarmed at the spilling of a 
salt cellar ; I dou't like to meet a hearse while going out 
of the street door ; I would not undcrthke a journey or 
any important work on a Friday; and the breaking of a 
lookiiiggbss would throw mc into fits. Now this mom' 
ing,* soon after our ii'te-»\-UHe ihjtiiner, I became sud- 
denly depressed in spirits, to such a degree that my fur 
hostess fancied I hiid been taken ill. This state of 
nervousness and depression endured after I had retired 
to my hotel, and was making ready my lu-rgage for niy 
positive de|>arturc at noon on the succeeding day, leaving 
oat only the evening dro^s for the dinner and opera. 
On taking my place at dinner tho knife and fork laid 
before ine crossway suirtlcd me (I dare eay I turned 
pale), but I said nothing. Tb.oro wcnj two attendants. 
At the next course the other valet replaced my plate» 
and again the f:ital cto^a was laid 1)efore me I I looked 
round to the three i;;uc3t3 to sec if it was tho habit of 
the servantt) of the hou;!io ; they ha<.l no cross, only the 
doctor : and ugain the third time tho same {symbol made 
its appearance before mo with the netting of the desflc-rt 
and correspondinir p1ati*i> with gilt knife and fork, the 
two latter of which artiflca npiin contrived to be laid 
down in a crucial form. Ah ! now there was no mistake. 
Some great crossing was about to befall me. I had bet- 
ter shut myself up for the rest of tho day, give \x\t the 
proposed drive and tho oiiera, und wait until I can 
escape iu the mominj; from the doomed city. To make 
matters still more formidable, I foimd. on looking at my 
ciilendur, that it was Friday. All this mind-work I of 
course kept to myfclf, albeit I must bnvo appeared 
rather more stupid thau was my wont." — Vol. i. p. -llo, 

A few hours later I>r. Oranvillo wii5 arrested. 
So much for prophotic cutlery. St. Switiiin. 

A Folk-Lorf: SoriETY. — I am not alone in 
thinkin{T it hi.i,'li time that stops should be tukcn 
to form a .society for coliectiuL:, arnm;;in<?, and 
printing all the 'scattered bit:* of folk-lore which 
wo. read of in books and hear of in the tlesli. Such 
a society should not confine it*; labours to the 
folk-lore of our own land, but i^houM have members 
and workers everywhere. St. Switiiin. 


Ilf'ftoirc dn I.h'f,-'f ikg Arrhiiya fhx AjTaivf Kh'ann<rM 

n Pans an Louvre en 1710, «> Vtrsnifhs tii 17H.», t( de 

noutyau *'i Paris en Diver* Eiulroits diy.ivs ITiuJ. Par 

Armand Boschct. Svo. Paris, Plon. 

(Cuncludiii^ Article.) 

We now come to the last division of M. Ijaschet's 
work, includinjr the sjiiice of time which htus 
elap.«!ed between 1700 and 1853. A number of 
well-known names meet us at almost every .step 
in this interestinf; gallery of portraits : Anquetil, 
Soulavie, Lemontey, Bignon, and Saint-Priest, to 
say nothing of the keepers of the Record Office 

" On a day in 1814, when the Doctor was at Bologna, 
and the guest of Madame Martinetti. 

themselves, men who have obtainfid azid desentc 
European celebrity. 

Count d'Hauterive must first be mmtiawe 
here. A friend of Talleyrand, oonrteoos aai 
obliging in private life, jpor/at« gtniiJhommtM 
doggedly resolved upon keeping the Foreign Ofia 
papers unsullied by the hands of hLBtoncal sto- 
dents, he would have deemed the communicatia 
of the treaty between Karl the Bald and Lndwif 
the German fraught with danger to the state, t 
was during Count d^Hautcrivc's administxatki 
that Lemontey and Sir James Mackintosh obtuaii 
l)ermis8ion to make transcripts from the docuoMBli 
preser^-ed in the Depot des Relations Exterifon^ 
the former for the history of the reign of Louis XT, 
the latter for his account of the Revolution of 16% 
The dragon who watched with such jealous cm 
the diplomatic garden of the Hesperides wasoUigii 
to yield ; but, if he could not wreak his vengeB* 
up^tn the Knglish statesman, ho made, at anynt^ 
I-K?montey's heirs smart for it. Immediately ate 
tlie historian's death, all hU papers, notes, and MS& 
were seized and confisciited, and the frozdU k 
Trihvnav.i' for Au<;ust, 1S26, contains the detdi 
of the lawsuit which resulted from that uawamii- 
able act of adininistrntive caprice. 

To Count d'Hauterive succeeded, in 1630; 3L 
Mignet, the present distinguished secretary of tk 
Academic des Sciences Morales et Politiqoft 
Thanks to ^I. ( iuizot's initiative, a vigorous impeM 
Iiad been given to historical studies, and M. BaicU 
takes the opportunity of appreciating in detail tb 
results of this s[>ecies of scientific revival, pajitf 
at the same time a tribute of just praise to ik 
learned editor of the ycgociations relatira ih 

I shall say nuthin;,' of Mes.<;r«. Carteron ad 
Cintnit, who occupied successivelj' the post whiA 
M. Tilignet left vacant when the Revolution rf 
iSls bn>ke out. AE. Prosper Faugore, on the od* 
hand, deserves a distinct notice ; and I wish I 
could translate i>t e^r.temo M. Boschct 's bio^iaphicil 
sketch of this excellent French schohir.* Bat I 
must forbear, and renuiin satisfied with alludinj 
to the controversy which broke out between hi« 
II nd M. Victor Cousin on the subject of PasJoTi 
/Vw^v'cj?, the latter not only maintaining that di 
austere Port- Royalist was in love, but tr^^ingtoftrf 
out what lady had succeeded in winning his a&fr 
tion ; the former indignantly protesting ogaiiisfi 
the cynicism which transformed Pascal into a kirf 
of inamorato. These literary debates, howerei^ 
have nothing to do with M.Faugeres fitness f* 
his post m Keeper of the Archives at the Fiw«* 
Foreign (')flicc. It would be impossible to imagi* 
a better choice in every respect ; and the ghoitof 
poor D'Hauterive must feel dismayed indeed at the 

Erospect of the liberal reforms which the Dab 
)ecazes, supported by his able coadjutor, bai 
sanctioned. Let mo repeat that to M. AnnaBd 






. li^ glory of having demonstrated 
■ uii ty of such reforms. 


n^ cxtxacis from Sir Willium Jone^'it 
m <m Asiatic Fottry^ printed in 
f R^elutrdjioD, and sold by Cadeil, in 
•* 1774," may interest your readers i~ 
bi tt Fcnfta Tcniuniu. Illi in poesi 
WttiSaiSAivm. ex n&turft deductis iidnictluia 
fWWQHifc puellimtm cincinoos byftciuthia, 
MH^ BBBC ob C)olor«m, Tiolii, nunc ob ama- 
larclMs, dentea TQ^rfniritif, pa- 
OKolft roelU ac Tino, labia pyropis, 
MCit moulis, faeiem soli, ciinea nocti, 
M%_ IfMU deitiqiiie puellaa csprecilis ct 

[Qotoft at length an onooymouB Arab 

dMcripCio. utmultos in ABiatiooram carmi- 
looioiiia poeiDAfce convenit. Et profccto boo 
lotod in the original), "l&bib fari^ dalciora/* 
fcdCadem rerbU ex Hebraso reddl vifletur " 
in the original). *' Fari f tillantea Ubia 
hmam.'t Sanff, iv. II. 

\ufChoi]ihorat of ^lEechylcia, Sir WOliuiii 

re eoarcnitrnt cum SbalccRpeari notlri 
pM&t {M^ -ficth) qiiA n«o (jnecos poetoa noc 
^^■■Hiitlns ]mto exceltiUB, aut mngni- 

In liabiiuai Uyhria Cretfntis fTKoXiov " 
A I h ,.T. ...,«) f « qm>j ijg^'j citabo, quia vetcrum 

4i^uv', c^'^ TO KoKiiV \aia7}'ioi\ &c. 
tiquu» ict UanuuHi. " (qaoted in tbe original). 
till opea pr^t«r tortcam et caiBidem, 

^ Heabebt Rakdolph. 

^p Ihoufcbt thAt there wss a, marked 
Hkireen 1 Kin;.'s xxii. 8, where Ahab 
■ Imtea MicAiAh, *' for he doth not 
cwxi concerning Uie, but evil," and 
^ L 106, »«75., wnerc Agamemnon 


ti*, oil' TrtitTTOTf ftoi TO Kpyy\'ov eiTf?^ 

iaK €im </n/\a 4'Pi^(' fivOij^ratrOat^ 

■»Tc 7i' TUJ ft7r€5 tiTO? ovT* cTcAccTtra 

idefcd by Lord Derby ; — 

if ill 1 thou fuver ipeak'st to m« 

I of evil onica ; for tby aoul 

l» aixgor ill, but aught of good 

er yet hut promiwd^ nor performed." 

P. J, P, Gaxtillox, 

itB (bought* er« from the h'pa it part, 
Uriah iprings mutual from tho bcarL" 
Pope, Ehisa to Abclard, 

'* And Thougbt leant out to wod with Tbougbt, 
Ere Thought coold wed itaelf with Speech." 

Tennyicm, /» Mttncriam, 
HoBBRT J. C. Connolly, Clk. 
Ratha&gan, oo. KUdare. 

One short text of the Paradite Lott indebti 
MiJton to two soorceu, lying widely apart, bk. L 
V, 66-7 :— 

" nope never cornea, 
That comcB to all." 

The exclusion of Hope from the "regions of 
sorrow " looks up distinctly and unquestionably to 
Dante's terrible writing orer hia Hell-gate :— 

" Laacuite ogni speranca vol ch* entratc.'* 
But the cast of expreaaion ia from Euripides, 
Troadetf v. 676-7, Andromache speaking : — 
'Kaol -yelp oiJS', o iracri Act~£Tat /JpoToT^, 


*' To know tbe foturo, look back on the paat. Tho 
prophet's mirror hangii behind him.'* — Otrman Provtrb, 
•* Tdl rae, IMiiloeopher, ia it a crime 
To pry into tbe aecret womb of Time ; 
Or, bom in ignorance, mnat vro de8])air 
To reach ereata, and rea^i the future there! 
Why, be it »o^ati]l tia the right of man, 
Imparted by hifl Maker, where be can, 
To former times and men his eye to cast, 
And judge of what 'a to come by what ia paat." 

Cburcbill. TU Fartwdl. 
Wm. Freelove. 

Bury St. Edmondi. 

''She, mouldering ..... 
Lay there exiled from eternal Qod.*' 

Tennyson, Palate of Art* 
<' They being abut up ... . lay thero exiled from the 
eternal providence."— SVisdovt. xTii. 2. 

'< And knowB not if it bo thunder, or a sound 
Of atones thrown down, or one deep cry 
Of gre&t wild beaMta,'*— Teitnyjon. 
*' Or a terrible sound of atones caat down 
roaring voice of moat aaragt^ wild beaata." 

irtr<2oiaxvii. 19. 
C. F. S. Warren, M.A 

. or a 

YARD ' (from an American paper)." — Such ia the 
title of what follows, in prose and verse, and 
which T have met with in Collet's (Bryotle/s) 
Iid\r& of Likrature : — 

" Tbe celebrated Elegy, by Gray, Sa well known and 
justly admired by every one who baa tbe teaat prefeen- 
aiona to to^te. But with all ita poliah, and deep poeUc 
beauty and feeling, it alwaya appeared to me to be 
defective, and I have met with a remark in Cecil's 
^main:s to tho same effect. Amid a tccne so well calcu- 
lated to aw&lten in a pioua mind reflections on the subHme 
truths and inspiring hopes of Christianity, Gray, with 
the exception uf two or tlireo somewhat equivocal ex- 
pressions, says scarcely a word which might not have 



[5** 8. V. Feb, 12, T6. 

been said by one vtho beliCTed tiiak 'de»th wfttftn etornal 
aletp,' and i?ho wm dlflpoaed lo nfcard tb« h amble te Dante 
of tlioae tombi am indeed * each in bis narrow cell for 
tver laid.' With lliese Tiewt, I hare regretted tbat 8«nti- 
menti iimilar to tbo following bftd not sprung up in tbe 
heiirt, and receired tbe cxiiuijite touchea of the cla»iic 
pen of Gray. I do not offur tbem to tuppi^f tbe defj- 
cienoy, an attempt aa prcaumptuoma and hopelees aa that 
of tht Enjstiflh artists to repair tbe mutilationi wbicb 
time or aceidont bad occasioned among tbe inimitable 
relict <y{ Gr«cian genius, Tbe linei might with great 
propriety have followed the stanza beginning, * Far from 
the madding crowd*§ ijpioble strife * : — 

No airy dreams their iimple fancies fired, 
No thirst for wealth, nor panting after fame ; 

But truth diviae gubtimcr hopes inspired, 
And urged them onward to a nobler aim. 

From every cottage, with the day arose 
The hallowed voice of spirit breathing prayer ; 

And nrtlesa anthemfl, at its peaceful close, 
Like bolj iticenee, charmed the erouiug air. 

Though they, each tome of human law unknown, 

Tbe brilliant path of science neTer trod. 
The sacred Tolnme claimed tbeir hearts alone. 

Which taught the way to igloi7 and to God* 

Here they from truth's eternal fountain drew 
The pare and gladJening waters day by day ; 

Learnt, iince our daya are evil, fleet, and few, 
To walk in wiedom'a briglit and peaceful w»y« 

Inyon lone pile, o'er which hath sternly pass'd 
The heary hand of all-destroy tng Time,^ 

Through whose low moitldering aisles now Bighs the blast, 
And round whose altars gnn and iry climb,— 

They gladly thronged^ their ifrateful hymns to raise, 
Oft 93 the calm and holy Sabbath ahone ; 

The mingled tribute of their prayers and praise 
In sweet communion rose before the throne. 

Here, from those honoured lipSj, which sacred fire 

From He&ren'a high chancery hath touched, they hc«r 

Truths which their zeal tt»tlame« their hopes inspire. 
Give wingf to faith, and check aiHictiou'a tear. 

When life flowed by, and, like lui angel, Death 
Came to release them to tbe world on high, 

Praise trembled still on each expiring breath, 
And holy triumph beamed from every eye. 

Then gentle hands their * dust to dust ' consign ; 

With quiet tears, the simple rites are said. 
And here they sleep, till at the trump divine 

The earth and ocean render up their dead, 
ithode Inland, America." 

Perhaps some of your correspondents in America 
may be able ta say who the author of the above 
lines was. They were written about fifty years 
ago. Fbedk, Eulk, 

Mistletoe ik GRiMSTnoRi'E Park : A Large 
Bouon FROM Bretagjie.— Mistletoe grows very 
freely in the hawthorns imd other trees in Grima- 
thorpe Park, Lincolnshire, though it ia not to be 
found elaewhere in the neighbourhood. People 
have been nccnslomed to come from long diatancea, 
especially from London and Mimchester, in order 
to gather the mistletoe, .and have brought with 
them carta to ciirry ot!' the spoil. Besides thus 

ccimmitting a trea|>ai4s, they disturbed the red de« ! 
in the park, and j^T^utly damaged the trees. 
Willoughby de Ereaby has, therefore^ beer 
pelled to protect her property by employing aau;- 
tional watchers in the park during the month I 
before Ohiistraas, in order to prevent the mistletoe I 
from being interfere<l with and stolen. Daring I 
this past December, fourteen extra watchers w*»« " 
thus engaged. Some of the boughs of luistli 
Grimsthorpe Park are very lar^e, though I < 
say that they can rival a bough of mistletctt ih i: 
was sent by my friend Br. Phene, F.S.A., th^is 
December, to the Rev. Thomas Wdtahire ~ 
in the hall of whose house, nt Granville 
Lewisbam, it was hung on Christmas Eve, 
bough was procured by Dr. Phene from the ** 
woods of Broceliande/' in Bretagne, and, Wi 
gathered, mea.«ured tea feet in circumference* 
loat but little of its grand dimenaiona in ti 
snd 13, perhap9j the hirge^t miatlet&e bough 
imported into La Grande from La Petite Bi 
One of the most scientific features in com 
with this botanical tour has recently been 
lished in the Ganknera^ Chrovide; but the 1) 
of mistletoe seems to deserve special mention. 
Cuthbert Bi 

Witchcraft ix WARwicKSHmtt.— It is 
of note that at Warwick af^atzea, on Dec. IS, 
duriDg the trial of James Haywood (who 
found to have been insane at the time) for 
murder of Anne Tennaat, aged eighty y( 
Long Compton, " it was i>roved in evident 
fully one-third of the villagers believed in 
cniffc" {Standard n&Vfs^per, Dec. 16, 1876), 

Thomas Noi 

Tbe iJankj Leicester. 

** BojTNiE A^Tf fE Laurie."— Tlie heroine 
popular song was eldest of the three di 
of Sir Robert Laurie, first baronet nf Maxi 
Dumfriesshire, Her sisters were Violet and 
sanna. Sir Robert Laurie was descended 
family of respectable merchant burgesses in 
town of Dumfries. He rciceived his diploma 
baronetcy on March 27, 1685. He married Jol 
eldest daughter of Walter ElddeU, writer U/" 
sign€'t. The marriage contract ia dated at 
burgh, January 25, 1687. On May 13, 
Anne Laurie granted a discharge to her bi 
Sir Walter Eiddell, Bart., for all debts .iue by hill 
as representative of their family. She married " 
1709 James Fergusson, of Cmigdanoch, who w. 
returned here by his father, Alexander Fergusso! 
M.P. for the Dumfries burghs. '* Bonnie Ann 
Laurie " was mother of Alexander Fergusson, tl 
hero of Burna's song, " The Whistle." Her admirti 
who composed the song in her praise, was WiUiju*] 
Douglas, of FIngland, in the atewartty of Kirkcud-J 
bright. This gentleman, according to Dr. C. Tj 
Ramage, in hia work on Drumlanrig, was a 




aod b mid to be the hero of the song, 
m VBsraa wac;/* Charles Eogrrs. 
rvmt Hill, S.E. 


eomspondentfl desiring inform&tioD 
of only pm&tfl iotereatt to ivflix their 
to their queries, in order that tfa« 
'iMMtdrandto them diroat.] 

"^ T X Scotland," — In 1 804 was 

Tour through the Narfht]rji 

, anil Grtat Part of the High- 

i &c\, by Colonel T. Thornton, of 

li, ia VorJcHhire. The year, in 

• scribed in this very extraordinary 

seems to be nowhere mentioned liy 

d judge that it could be easily 

teiml evidence by tiny one weM 

111 the state of Scottiah society to- 

of the Ittst century. Was it in 

kin's "British Zoology." — An edition 
irofk na pabliahed in 1812, containing 
IdhioDS, but the editor's name m not 
"Wbo was he I The author of a memoir 
im in the KaturalUt for October, 1838 
I), says a "second^' edition of the BritUk 
"WHS published by Pennant's son, and the 
Ahows that the edition of 1B12 Is meant, 
^riiter Is of t'oun>e wrong in culling it the 
Bennett; in hia edition of White's Sel- 
t 113, note), says thnt the editor of the 
iiaa of Penniint was ** believed " to be 
iuuner^"^ and the kte Dr. Gniy told mc 
ftd faraished Pknnett with that infomm- 
EU[h be could tell me nothing' of H/inmer, 
1 1 learn anythingof bini from others to 
have applied. Whoever the editor mny 
to, he wasi, a.«i bia notes show, a very com- 
logi«t, and this fact increases my desire 

CLOPJiDiA Lo3^>I^'E^'SIS." — The zoologi- 
of this workt which appcured between 
w.Kt -intains a good deal more original 
of its kind in those days did, 
- :^v.. tves some attention. Yet the 
le contributor or contributors ia nowhere 
I can ascertain. The compiler, " John 
©f Midland House, in the county of Sua- 
ire/' announces himself an having been 
bv eminent scholars) of the EnrjUsh, 
d IrLab Ilniversities." Can any one miy 
may have been, and especially the author 
of the zoological articles I 
be gre:uiy ohlij^ed to any of your 
irould answer the above questions. 
Altred Newtok. 
College, Cambridge, 

Ettmolooy of "Cad."— In the article " Law 
and Crime,^ in the Pictorial IVorldj Dec. 18, 1875, 
was the following paragraph ;— 

'*8aid the Lord Chief Justice, in a recent cAsa of 
libel; — 'I hare ofien heard of the word *' end," but I 
never knew what it meant; however, it ia a term of op* 
prohriuij), I auppose.' The mterpretatiun wat not ^yta 
m court. It ii jiut thifl : the last born of a farrow la a 
ptKtr bttk pi)!— a weakliae^ and is commonly, in tb« 
country, called the cad. The alang ta apparently an 
abbreviation of the French 'cadet,' which Ogilvie'a Dic- 
tionary givea afl * the younger of two brothers ; the 
youngest son.' That the elder ion, inheriting the youth- 
ful etretjgtli of Ida progenitorB^ie commonly the «trong«r, 
an<l therefore more worthy of llie heirahip, ia the easence 
and foundation of the old feudal law of primogeniture," 

In the Slang Diciwrmrfj (Hotten) it is attempted 
to be shown that cud is a corruption ot cadger. It 
Jilso states that "the exiilusivea at the English 
universities apply the term cad to all no n- mem- 
bers," a fact (f) which, " when found, make a note 
of." Why should an oninibus conductor be culled 
a cad f And in what counties ia the little weak- 
Eng pig (mentioned in the above extract) known 
aa the cad t Ccthbbrt Bzoe. 

Genealogical. — In an examination lately of 
quite a niaaa of MS. pedigrees of the numerous 
ramiticatioite of the Scottish family of Gordon, in 
search of a Walter Gordon who lived in Aberdeen- 
abirc in the earlier part of the seventeenth century 
('say alwut 1612), it has struck iiio as remarkiible 
that this baptismal name occurs only twice in the 
many centuries enil>niced in the pedigrees : in the 
one case, the name of a son* of Gordon of Bel- 
domie, and married to a lady of the name of 
Lyon ; and in the other, the name of one of the two 
natiind sons of AVilliam (iordon, the lajst R. C. 
Bishop of Aberdeen. We know that this second 
Walter succeeded his elder brother John in cer- 
tnin real property in Old Aberdeen, witliin the 
Chanonry, probably the gift of the bishop, if we 
are to believe Archbishop Bpottiswoode's account 
of the alienations he made of the property of the 
see. We also know that this Walter married, and 
WEis dead before March Hj^ l(n5j as his son 
Wdliam served heir to him on that date {Aher- 
decn rUlour^^ No, 137). 1 ^vish particularly to 
know what was the name of this Walter's wife. 
The Walter of whom I am in eoarcU was marrieii 
to a Marot Ini* (Marjorie Innes). O, S, 

Oak CABtXET, 1678.-1 have in my possesBion 
an oak cabinet, or butTet, bearing dat-e 1678, 
though in style it might well belong to a period 
half a century earlier. It came from an old house 
in the North R iding of Yorkshire. It has a central 
panel, at the buck of the upper and open part, 
carved in high relief. This panel represents a 
warrior on horseback charging a standing figure, 
apparently a woman, having a sword in his or 
her hand. In the background arc the walls of & 



p^^av. Fwi.15, 

town, with roofs and 'Rubles of houses beyond. 
Two figures atand side by aide on the buttlemoDtd 
ji3 spectators of the scene below. Is thia merely 
an inmginary subject I or wna it intended by the 
carver to represent some incident, and what ? 

0. K H, C. H. 

DAvro CtArrick*s Book-Plate, — Some time 
ago I bought at WoK^ester a well-preserred copy 
of an English translation of Cicero's LtUerx, in 
3 vok., **printecl for R. Dodsley in Pall Mall, 
1753," which, I iimy reasoniibly believe, once 
belonjfed to the great actor, for it contains on the 
inside of the binding of the first volume his book- 
plate. "David Garrick" ia engraved in clear 
letters in the centre of a shield-like frame of 
flowering tracery, beiirinjj;, tit the upper sides and 
at the bottom^ symbols of the mimetic art — the 
mask, jester's head, &c. At the top of the frame 
are the head and shoulders of Shakspeare, after the 
" Chandos ^ type, and, although the engpavini,' is 
so smaOj the traditional earring is plainly dia- 
ceraible. Under the outline of the frame is 
printed the following : — 

"L» prtmitPO chose qu*on doit f&iro quand on a 
empninto un Hrro, c'wi Je le lire, afin de pouvoir le 
readre plalot.'' — MenagiaiM, vol. iv* 

The fame still attaching to Garricl^s memory 
raay make the mentiou of my poasesaion interest- 
ing to more than mere book-phHo collectors. We 
may, I think, surmiae, without any exaggeration 
of fancy, that he himself deaigned the plate. 

Can any reader of " N. & Q." tell me the nature 
or authorship of Mtnaqiann^ whence the eingidarly 
apt advice to book-borrowers profeases to be taken / 

A. L. a 

CccKoo=CcrcKOLP.— Mr. Latouche, in his in- 
terestin]if book on Portug:il, gives £U) an instance 
of the sensitiveness, or rather Hr|ue8mislmesH, of 
the Portuguese with regard to the use of certain 
words, such as pig^ in onlinary conversation, their 
never mentioning " the name of a well-known mi- 
gratory bird mentioned allusively by Molitre and 
•Shakapeare," What is the bird \ T. B. 

rWTithout doubt " cuckoo,' regularly used for " cuck.- 
** He© Sbakupearc'ft Spring song at the end of Lov^^s 
LaheuT '* Lmi ;— 

" The cuckoo then, on every tree, 
Wocks marrifld men, for thna ainga be, 

Cuckoo, cuckoo ! Vford of fear, 
UnpIcaBing to a niarried ear I " 
8m also " The Cuckoo," in Hf r Furair»n'a Love P^tm 
und Mumovrojii Onei, Bnllficl Bociety, ice] 

"Two Noulk Kinsmen/' "k 6, 49-51.— 
** An eele and woman, 
A learned Poet sajw : unloi by lii* taile 
And with thy teetb thou hold^ will eithtr faile/' 
Who was the "learned poet'W I can find no 
claaaical phrase at all like this, except the proverb 

in Plaut., Pseud, ii. iv. 56, "anguilla * 
" Auguillam cauda tenea " is given in 
CJ'u^. Quotations; but neither of the.v 
is applied to women. Pope, Dun 
" Holds the eel of Science by the tiiJL i ^^^ 
idlude« to the proverb again in Ths 
Ladijj ii, 1, *' I will end with the wiso man, 
BJiy, * He that holds a woman has an eel bj 
tail.'" Videntinian, L 1, "and, if all fail, 
the first quick eel tbafc miTed her tivil.'' 
Chajtcei, ill 3, "an eel's tail" Tht Pi 
iiu 2, "hold her fast, she will slip throi 
fingers like an eel else." 

Harold Littli 
Trin, ColL, Dublin. 

'• Catamabax." — Will any one inform 
thia word has come to he used a.«» a term 
brium, applied to an old woman / ^i is 
by Thackeray with reference to Lady Bal 
General Baynes, &c. The etymology of tht' 
is the Tamil lfilfa=tiedj and m/rmm^^trws, 
and the small rafts colled catnmarana are 
known to every visitor to the Ktuit Indies. 



was the author of the above, published, wiUi i 
engravings, Paris, 1686, ch^ GuiUuume de 7 

W. M., 

George Hutcitinson. — Born in 
married in co. Tyrone, Ireland, a few 
viou« to 1755, and afterwards came to Phil 
Can any one give the name of his wife, 
marriage, and any information relating to 
scent? G. a. 

De Lancey Piacc^ Philadelphia. 

Pipe's Ground.— i\Tiere was this place, 
adjoining the Houses of Parliameafc, aovi the 
of the duel of Horatio Walpole (Lord \\\A\ 
Woolterton) and Mr. Chetwynd, mentioned 
Horace Walpole*3 Letter to ManUj March 
1743, edit, 1857 ? U 

Wellington at Astlet*s.— On the oc 
the Duke'a visit to see the Battle of W*' 
there, the stage duke was unwilling to appeafij 
he heard that his prototype was in the t heal re, 
would not until invited to do so, WhiU isl 
date of that event ? George El 

St, John's Wood. 

[.'Ibaiat fifty yeans ago the Battle of Waterloo waj l 
Rt A»t!oy'B thcutrc, where the mimic N»poleea 
phiyed by Mr. Goniersal. He died at Leeds. ISfi^i 
Beventy'fbuT. The incident noticed abore is ■ 

Chalmers's "Cauedonia.*' — The MS. of 
of this great national work is said, in Lowndi 
have been sold to Mr. Thorpe* Wasiteverpul 

e.V.Ttn. 12,T1] 



Wild, if not, whU fiTereDted its appearing? Mr. 
ChaltiB«tB's Tii^ptyraphical Didionarn of i^eotlaml^ 
in niiM noik, m MS., is also said to haTe been sold 
at the^ mmt time to Mr. Thorpe ; and I cannot 
fr V ^ ' - ^ Jig been publisbed, or of 

^ Surely snch valuabk? 

Jtioo, ^ii 1 labour and research on 

the part < r li and " conscientious "* 

di >. . ,v ..;i owed to periah, without 

being made fur their publication. 

J. Macrat. 

Wmr IS E^TRE on tite IGth of April this 
Thar? — According to the tables in the Prayer 
DAT iM always the first Sunday after tim full 
which li»ppent upon, or next after, tLe 21 Bt d&j 
and, if the fall Dioon happeui upon a Sunday, 
pay m the Sunday after." 
tTit full moon this year, after March 21, is 
irday, April 8. Why is not Eiister Day on 

? a H. 

following statement occurs in John S. 

's Uisiory of Bet ford, p. 213 :— 

the ecctesiafltical hiftory of thi; place [Ordiall] 

r*mftrkabl« instanceB of persecution occur,., 

t> the ca8« of the Eev. Marmuduke Moore^ 

of this pariah, frhoae patomal estate, on the 

NoTember, 1652, was foif cited for trea«oti and 

ticfftrated from hii Uring for the heinouii and 

offence of playing at car^ three aoTcral times 

iwn wife." 

ny of your readera tell what is the truth 
lis, if, indeed, there be any truth "whatever 
md I Card playing wjw not " treason " in 
or at any time oefore or since. 

A, 0. V. P. 

D«nrcATi05s of Rctlaitd Churcbes. — To 

"'-' ^ " *^ f " :rii; churches in Rutland 
— Belton, Exton, Xor- 
o^-uLv.M, ,>nvUJii, Tickencote» Tixover, 
I TiiOMAfl Nop.TH. 


^aaa AT Oauds.— In an old MS. diary of 
I find mention of the following 

Ohartca. — Ruffe, fcrampe, slam'e, Gleeke, Xew- 

Sw^, Loadam, Patt, primifisty, poit and pair, 

AnaJbint iestJi cardtt, one and thirty, my sewc 

Cm any o&6 explain bow the ittillcized games 
pUyed, or where further mention of them 
he (otind T "\V. H. Allnutt. 

ih KsfjAREHK^T.— Can you refer me to the 

-i ;iii'l date of an engagement between 

(3\' :^ guns, and the Veteran? The 

i>tion appear? upon two glass 

^ly Biriev, October, 1B76, article " The 

goblets, beautifully cut :— "The Gylikhieii, G8 
guns, struck to the Veteran ; W. H. and I. S. R.,'* 
und the two ships are also cut on the glass. It 
does not state how many ^^qqr the Veteran carried, 
which I should be gbd to find out, with all other 
particulars. I. M. E. 

B. DE MA5rDEViLLE.--Is there any biography of 
the author of the Fahlc of Hit Bets f Where can I 
find a complete list of hia works, with date and 
phioe of publication, &c ? If no biography, what 
are the best sources of information lui to his life 
and opinions ? Johnstoite. 

Various, — Would any of the readers of 
" N. & Q," answer me these questions 1 — 

1 . What is the meaning of " casting and 
plashing " a hedge ? (N.B.— In Cornwall we aill 
any fence, stone or otherwise, which has vegeta- 
tion on it, a " hedge.") The latter word refers, I 
believe, to taking turf from the ditch, and with it 
iihapinj^ the top of the hedge. 

2. There is an instrument used in the cultiva- 
tion of the wheat which is cidled in West Corn- 
wall an " Idiot." This, I am told, is a corruption 
of " Hitch-it." It is the toothed instrument used 
before the harrow. Is this derivation correct ? 

3. Is there anywhere a collection of the mimes 
of the various pies enten by the Cornish ? H:»lli- 
well, I think, in his }FesitTn Coniwallj mentions 
some 2iKt, but does not name them. The two 
most celebrated in ti&ry are "Starry-gazy" and 
**Lammy Pie," the first consistiDg of pilchards, 
with the heads of the fishes gazing at the stur^ 
through a hole in the middle of the cnist. The 
latter is mentioned by Tregellaa as having been 
given to a Cockney, \vho, after eating it, was told 
that it was made " out of our old goat." Are these 
pies ajwcnrphal, or were they ever part of the 
staple food of the Cornish people I 

4. Near Kedmth is a nune caUed "Cook*a 
Kitchen." What is the meaning of the name ? 

Thurstan C. Peter. 

"The Mysterious Gextleman."— Has this 
story, by the lute George Hodder, been published, 
andif so, where ? I possess the origimJ I^IS. 

L. H. D. R. 

"The Heir of Mokdolfo,'' ry Mrs. Shellsy. 
— Can any one acquainted with the works of Mrs. 
Shelley inform me where and when this story was 
published ? ^__^_^^_ ■^^'^^* 


(5** S. ii. 421 ; iU. 409 ; v, 52, 97.) 

Mr. Simsoit, who was an ardent admirer of the 

theory that Bunyan was a Gipsj', may be said to 

have exhausted the pro arguments, such aa they 



(S** S. V. Feb. 

are, in his letter .to " N. & Q.," 2^'^ S. iv. 465. Be 
that (|uestion tia it may, 1 think Mr. Kilooub 
has be€Q rather too hasty in imagining that the 
Affyrtmweie ikird»j t. e, Gipsies^ from the Grimta 
resemblance of their names, and the sitwihirity of 
Bome of their habits, as described by Dr. Wilson. 

Surely the AgrfrUr. were the exact oouDterpart 
of our ancient Lymitours. Turning; to Hall i well 
and Wright's edition of Nares'a Di^lionarVj I find, 
under the head "Limit" : — 

" Popube friers were, and ure, but ydleri and lojtering 
T&gabotidea, Kood for natbing;^, but^ even na flies Hie 
abroftde, upon all mennei me»te, to fill themsclTea of 
other mcnA travelB, oTen so doe thty ; for thej go jdelly 
ft limiLing abrode, living upon the iweat of other ntetia 
travela/'^Northbnwkc, Affairut Diciufft kc, 1577. 

Then, in Dr. Smith's f^malhr IHdionary of 
Greek and Rotiian Anti'iuitits^ London, 1853, oc- 
curs :— 

"^gyrtiB {dyvfirat\ mendicant priests, who were 
jmcGUBtomed to travel through the difTtircint towna of 
Greece, toUclting alms for the Godo, whom thej 
iserved, and whoee images thej carrieil, either on 
their ihouldera or on bcasta of burthen. They were, 
generally «ijeak)ng^, peraonB of the lowest and most 
abandoned character.'* 

Finally, Liddell and Scott's Gruk-English Lcxi- 
corii 1856, furniihes us with :— 

•'*Ayi'pTr/f, ov, 6 (a'fUp<tf\ orig. a gatherer, colhcl&r, 
Mtjrpu6s (cf, ftr)T(>ayvpTrfi^ [a begging priest of Cy- 
bel^l, Antb. P* 6, 2IIS: hence usu. a beggar, vagabond, 
Eur. Khcs. 503, 715; a fortunetdlert Jw/r/Icr, quack, 
cheat, Plut, Soph. 0. T, 388, Plat. Rep. 364 B." 

The resembknce between the Anyrtiv iind the 
Gipsies baa been before remarked on, in what nmy 
be culled the dark age 3 of our knowledge of the 
latter. M. Bataillard {Dt VApimrition et dc la 
Dispersion des BoMmUni en Eampt^ Paria, 1B44, 
p. 53) flittya : — 

**It is in tbe first yearB of the lidmlniatration of 
Sten Sture, i. f. about 1513 or 1511, that the Gipulefl 
began to *how themsclTes in Sweden. .Immediately 
after the mention of tbe elcvati'm of Sten comes tho 
following passage, 'sub cujua regimine. WW Huecijim 

?<f^t<ie tkC oircuiniforfiniii pritmim ingrestfi Zigani, tuIj;«i 
artari hodicrno nuncupati/ Job. jretBOnii HcQndia It- 
iluitrata, tevr Ckroiiologia de Rthut Scaxdia, k.c.^ Stock* 
iliolmiaf, 1700, foL, p. 72." 

And Swinburne {TravcU through ilS/kuVi, Lon- 
don, 1787, vol u p. 360) saya, in speaking of the 
Gipsies in Spain r — 

'• The received opinion sets thenj down for Egyptiann, 
and makes them out to be the dcacendantd of tbo'sc vaga- 
bond TOt«rlcs of laia, who appear to have exercised in 
ancitnt Ronae pretty much the same profesgion as that 
followed by the present Gipsies, tiz., fortune telling, 
itrolliiig up and down, and pilfering," 

If Mr. KiuRxm will refer to Simson's HhL of 
t!ic f:tpsi€A, p. 08, he will obRcrve that Gipsies in 
1506 were new-comers to Scotland. Tbe words, 
"fines noatri regni dudiim whtneratj" and 
**a%w4?e menses hie versatus, ' admit of no other 

" Who are the Gipsies ? " seems likely to re 
a vcaatu qu.(cstio, A Gipsy once told me that 
iv. 20 referred t-o his race. The idea is quiti 
pkuaible fuq some that have been started, and 
the merit of beginning at the beginning. 

M. Bataillard of Paris, who baa written b©' 
most interesting and sterling articles on van 
Gipsy subjects, and who has devoted his life 
the collection and careful examination of a 
masa of nwtermlEi of nil ki nds, haa long ago ^ 
miaed us a book, which promises to be a fit etfini 
logical companion to Dr. Pott's well-known 
on their language. 

For the latest ideas on the antiquity of 
existence of the Gipsies in Europe I would 
Mr, Kilgour to M. Butaillard's letter in 
Btiue Critique, Sept. 25, Oct. 2 and 9, 1875, **l 
lesOrigines des Bom-miens, ou Tsiganes, avec V, 

f>lic4it!on du Nom Taigane,** and separately pal 
isbed by Librairie A- Franck, Rue Richelieu, 
Paris, 1875. 

Cim Mr. Kiloour refer me to an authority 
the date, *' nhout 1122/' of the paraphrase 
Genesis, mentioned in Charaben^'s Ennjdopadia 

H. T. Croftojt. 

Mr. Kiloour mentions a notice of Gipsies 
eftrly aa 11 22 a.d., also, still earlier, a supposed ' 
by Cicero, Is it not very probable that the "" 
lars" (Mexcalorea), from whom Utesar, 
Gaul, received information about Britain, 
also Gipsies ? E. Leaton Bleskinj 

Tinker is, in my humble opinion, the 
form of a word known, in its Italian fo 
Zingaro (pronounced Taingaro), meaning a 
The thorough identity of Tinker and Zinpiro 
meaning, and— viewing them pbilologicaJly— 
thorough cloaeneaa of their relationship in t"^ 
«ound and in their spelling, seem to me to 
this highly interesting conclusion beyond all 
tion. There is good reason for believing that 
conclusion will, in due time, play a very im 
rnrt in solving the great problem. Who are 
Gipsies 1 There is, at present, ao much prej 
and foregone conclusion with reference to 
GipsieSf that I scarcely care to take up your i 
with any further remarks on the subject a( 
time. Mr. Smith says that Tinkler means 
ticular craft, not a race of people ; and in p 
this adds that there is no Eomany word th 
ever heard of from which it could be deri 
This as.qumes tbut the Gipsies gave themselves 
name of Tinklers, of which there is n«> pMKif, and 
it may be added, no probability. Thp (iip^irs di<i 
not, so far as I am aware, give il 
other name of the Gipsies. Mr. >- 
that tbe Git>8ie3 cnmc into Scotlno^i Utont i.-nin, 
meaning, as I understand the ri&ui&rk, that 
came into Scotland for the fint time about tbsll 





date ; but at thn» a^uo, there ia no proof. Some 
[iripeiea maj hsie tarn come into Scotland, just as 
lome did waam frw jeatn txvro ; but that is no 
protQsd wb»tev«r fi>r concluding that there were 
lo GipMes in ScmlaDd prior, and long prior, to 
1506. There ' :ie vestige of a ground, that 

[ HiQ awaxe cr !ig that Gipsy, Tinker, and 

Titikler did bin ui-jiilly denote the same wan- 
denng pe^Jilcv the*© names bei^g still iwed for 
thai piirpoie, I>it, Ravage's item of proof, con- 
B^efcea with the city of Perth, ia of value, and 
to beaj out the view4 expressed by me in 
met Botts. I have no heaitatioa in saying that 
cidiiiary ideas as to the Gipsies are erroneouB, 
SviTH Qpc&ka of them as being a different 
Different from whom ? There ia a mira- 
of V be termed different rac^s in the 

, though they are now n gooil 
I ; iind, if the Gipsies are a different 
■ther Txees, they only add one more 
iDer, 1 have aome further notes on the 
may be given on ii future occasion. 
Hekry Kilgoor. 

^« FoRESTRT (6"» S. V. 43»9L)— Imighti 
,]lA»e carried a little further my remarks 
of Milton, I aimed at brevity, how- 
fitf as consistent with my purpose. But 
Mr. Menzies to say that the omiission 
II after ** groves '' w:is mine. Finding 
ictnation — whether of Mr, Men/ies or 
I know not— in the Timc^ was wrong 
I fiogod Cop tbvir it&ioly growth, though bare/* 
1 colon Jifter *'top"), and knowing how the 
niries in different editions, I thought it 
to omit the points, especially as the quuta- 
lo serve, as it were, twice. Writing the 
the review appeared, I was unwilling to 
jce of my letter appearing in the fol- 
imber of *'*N. & t^.,"* as I thought I 
if I dealt with the punctuation. I 
liAwever, to have mentioned the omission. 
ri dueji not connect the " arched 
he oak and pine seems open to some 
t, for ia two of the three editions I have rc- 
to there are commas after "brown" and 
And what authority is there for Silvan, 
iltdn's text ? But I fear I shall be called 

icetothe word "brown," I would 
(N, t M.ijxs whether he had considered p. 240 
iii, of Modem Painters, together with the 
i'< ' •"' -"I of Milton's use of the word— in 
J :, ill 32fi ; F. L., ix. 1068 ; and 

. ^ .i^iUy the second of these — before de> 
Ihat the word is not equivalent to bruno^ 

iimplest meaning of ** monumental oak •* is 



probably the best. Still, the holm-oak might be 
called a " monumental " tree, just as a yew or a 
cypress might, from its sombre colour, sempervi- 
rency, and suitability for association with gntves 
and monuments ; and I once thought this epithet 
was used to diHtinguiah the tree from the '* forest- 
oak" of P. L., I. 612, or from the oak simple : nor 
is it irrelerant, in reply to a gentleman like Mr. 
Menzies, who declareH that " no reason is known,'* 
to state some three or four admissible reasons for 
using a particular word. II Ptnscrom -wvla written 
before Milton went abroad, so that he was not 
using Italian memories. 

Every observer can testify to the truth of SFr. 
Colltsh's remarks upon the eliu ; liut if their 
truth were not bo obvioitB, he would be a i>old ninn 
who should say that a particular avenue or tree, 
described sonie 34(* years ago, was not, to all jxietic 
intents, star-proof. Though I have seen many 
lightning-stricken trees, I doubted whether I could 
vouch for the tnith of the epithet " singed." If 
Mr. Collins can do thi?^, the further question as 
to tlie top of th( oal bein^ singed seems, practi- 
callv, settled. For it is sjiid further on in the 
review that *' a tree, to take fire at all, must be 
old," and that '* lightning selects the finest and 
largest of living trees, whose wood is too green to 
bum," Tbi^, coupled with the admission of "a 
jjort of baldness" to which the oak is liable, and 
which is admirably described byShakspeare in A$ 
You Lile Itf where he speaks of — 

*' An oftk, whose boughs were tnofs'd with aje, 
Afid higb top bald with dry antiquity/* 

goes to show that Milton has here piven us a 
literally true description of a natural phenmnenon. 
What AEr. Colli>^!3 eays about sheet lightning is 
very interesting. Does he spcuk from personal 
observation I J. L. AValker, 

Americanlsms (5* S. iv. 404.)— Mr. Pberlet 
makes the mistake, by no means uncommon, of 
treating as Americanisms btul English used by an 
Americxm, There are three kinds of American' 
isms, and I think only three, which are — 

1. New words or old words in a new sense, u.*red 
to express something in the ideas or experiences 
of a new countryj not tersely or adequately ex- 
pressed by any English word in iU ordinary sense. 
Such words or expressions, when once used, fre- 
quently spread over the whole country, sometimes 
with great rapidity, and are at once adopted, be- 
cause they supply a recof^ni/ed want. Words 
originating in this way arc no more liable to criti- 
eitiiu than a new scieutilic term applied to a new 
discovery in science. 

2. Local Americanisms— such as *' grup," in 
New England, and *' reckon," in the South, for 
" think." Such localisms are no more numerous 
in America than in England, as 1 know from fa- 





miliar intercourse with the common people of both 
countries, smd are frequently of English origin. 

3. Ameiican sLing. This class of words, or 
rather this dialect, seems to be a kind of rcTised 
and improved Billingsgate, with less malice and 
more vulgar wit thim the original, and may be 
heard at any railway station or steamboat landing, 
as it was by Mr. Dickens, and might almost ho 
mistaken for tlic language of the common |)eople. 

Only two of the words given by Mr. Presley 
in his long list fall under either of these heads. 
These are "mop-boanl," the origin of which is 
obvious, and " tumble-bug." "Tumble-bug" is a 
name popularly given to a kind of beetle. When 
storing its food, it works it up into such a shai^e 
that, when grasped tightly, it makes with its own 
body a round ball. It then grasps in turns in the 
right direction, and gives a kick, frequently rolling 
over M-ith its load five or six times, and then re- 
peats tlic operation until its hole is reached. The 
openition is a curious and interesting one. Hence 
the name. Henry T. Nile. 

SiiAKiNfj Hands (5*»» S. iv. 4S7 ; v. 15, 77.)— 
The following passages in liialjih lioiskr JJoisfn 
would seem to show that shaking hands was a 
common form of greeting in England in the middle 
of the sixteenth century. (1.) Two ser>'ant boys, 
quite strangers, meet, and after a little talk one 
says to' the other : — 

" In faith then must thou needes be welcomo to me, 
Let us for acquaintaDcc fhale hawU* togitber. 
And irhat ere thou be, heartily welcome hitlicr.*' 

Act ii. 80. 3, 1. 26. 
(2.) Those who have been 'on bad terms shake 
hands on becoming friendly : — 
** GootUuclf. Sir, doe not for hir sake bearc me your 
Meryijrttke. Well, he shall with you talke thereof more 
at Icasure. 
Upon your {jo(.d usage, ho will now shale your hamh. 
RoytUr. And much heartily welcome from a Btraunge 

Mtryfirttkf. Be not alearde, Gawyn, to let him ikake 
yoarjiiur Act v. bc. G, 11. 3ii-44. 

O. W. T. 


In the "Prologue" to Lamartine's poem of 
Jocelyn, Episoile, Journal troure che:: iin Cure de 
Village, first published about forty years ago, the 
following lines occur : — 

" II me senible d6ja dans mon oreille entendre 
De 8a touchanto voix I'accent tremblant et tcndrc, 
£t Bontir, ii defaut de mots cherchua en vain, 
Tout son c(£ur me parler d'un serrement de main ; 
Car lorsque Tamitifc n'a plus d'autre langago , 
La main aide le coeur ct lui rend temoignagc." 

J. Macray. 

"L.VDY-HELP8" (5^ S. iv. 306, 375.)— A. J. M., 
in speaking of this expression (p. 375), 
makes a serious mistake both m the origin and 

meaning of the word ** help," as lued 

"Yankees." In everv new conntiy, __^ ^. 

country like New JSnglond, the first lettk^ 
from the nature of the case, need belp^ ud li 
get it must help each other. When ih» iaat 
is felled, the trees ("logs") mnst be n^n- 
gether to be burned. One man cannot dotk^ 
and there are no "servants" to employ, ha 
the necessity of the case, the neiehbomi 
and help each other to "roll tlu 1^^" 
both the word "help" and <Mog roUing,'* 
extensively used in American politics to d^ 
rocterize a combination of the friends of 
measures to carry them all through a legiibtii 

Again, a man would frequently employ the 
of his neighbour to " help" hia own son to do 
work on his little farm, both young men pri 
spending all their leisure time in prepariaK 
college, and each expecting one day to bePicaU 
of the Unite<l States, the birtliright of ci^ 
" Yankee " boy. 

The idea of "master" and "servant 
neither of their heads. If, instead of '')ad 
help,'* the term " ser^'ant " should be used, ttir 
would bo Avar between these embryo presidenti 

This was the actual position of such 
"Webster and Chase in early life. 

Let me assure A. J. M. that " help " is aa 
word, with an honest origin, however afiectiii 
may have become since it crossed the water. 


Urbana, Ohio, U.S.A. 

Mrs. Pritciiahd's DEScEXDAifTS (5* S. a 
501) ; iv. 20G, 431, 492 ; v. 36.)— In the Li/ti 
Garricly by Davies, i. 192, it is stated thst lb 
Pritchard " laboured to make her family 
and happy " ; and immediately after, to itxxw M 
this did not only mean her children, the aoAf 
adds that she " confined all her attention to ki 
relationH, which were very numerous." Tle»i* 
not seem to be any reason why her brother shod 
not have shared in these kindly attentions. Wik 
regard to her brother's conduct in relation to lb 
Leonanl's legacy, I read the matter in a i*}! 
different light, and do not imagine that lb. 
Vaughan acted at all unfairly to his sister. Bi 
seems to have had a strange misconception of If 
pojiition as executor, and to have sadly misled IV 
sister. The account in The Thespian IHcHoMff 
is vague and incomplete; but I do not thiidctli 
author meant to suggest that Mr. Vaugfaan i^ 
toniptod to claim half Mr. Leonard's legacr Ii 
Mrs. Pritchard, but rather that he imagined 
self, conjointly with her, to be residuary I 
and that they would, therefore, be entitled to 
divide the greater part of the property betwctf 
them. This he was prevented from doing ; id 
the bulk of the estate fell to the hein-at-law, vh 



TaiigliaQiUDd A 

• Mr, Leonard than Mr. 
:nl were. Mr. Vauglum's 
I vi^is gayg ije y^Q^ pub' 

.0, his atteinpts to 

1 lie heirs-at-law, ami 

« ' ' i : " L of Mra. Pri tchard 

-uiiiiMii _ I to claim liulf of kis 

Thaf A. T. Pn Imor was the grand-daughter of 

I in the supplement to 

u'pfipkical Diciionary af 

5/ A^mrs, Loud., 8vo., 1816, p. 444. I 

;1J b* gUd to know when and %vhere ahe died. 

Edward Solly* 

W.irrriLoo Criiuk (:^^'^ 8. iv. 247, 415, SIS.)— 

inng given the design for 

iijl^ to Mr. Elmea's state- 

, uilw«r u)© fcu iiuote from J, Britten, F.S.A,, 

In hig Pidwt^ of London^ 1S2G, writes, at 

♦• Th« enpine^f wtio gare the plan wag Mr. O. Dodd j 
gT^ri " '^^i^reefl with the comiian J engaged 

U3 ' n after it« coniDicucement, and 

kr Uie ^! r ;n, tile merit of cooductiug it to BO 

T jccrraiul a termiuation." 

>e that it resembles the Pont de Neuilly, 

I i^ much gnuider and nobler ; and Dodd not 

gave the de«i^, but also commenced the 

^Uudtire, «o the Uo^iu^ of Eliuea is untrue, that 

thit "}pt*al schemer only projected the work." 

R^oiiie wn« incapable of designing auch a bridpe, 

Val tiiot i* no disparagement of Kennie's iihilities. 

Been' iiian of genins, but only aa an engi- 

■•♦r iit has never been questioned. His 

^'~ > *'i the centres, upon which the arches 

♦ d, was perfectly original. When the 

- pil-'1 on these timber centres they 

iil 1 1, to the great discomfort tmd 

• . i niMcrs. Eeunie discovered 

i longitudinally, in pboe 

IK II jjc got over. When the 

• te removed, tlje arches only sank about 

'^ -n the middle. The bridge of Neuilly 

inches immediately. This wtis a 

ing triumph, and quite enough for 

I -If. Let eveiy man have liis own merit. 

bjJi'a ia that of having designed tlie noblest 

Thu« late in the jlnj' m'c rc- 

fiour that wad liis due, though 

I- uj Iji* lifetime by cowimily falsi- 

' T benctit the memory of an original 

\U T^TMilf*^ to accord him a glory 

m ; and he vrta ** na sae 

sense of the word, im to 

:i>eii probably. C. A* Ward. 

CitKlsrniUfl MtTMMKBa ^5«* 8, iv. 6i»fi - v. 75.)— 
f notfl cm the Out- ' '" V ring only 

J>roembcr, wn* i j i putchcii 

in the early part of last year, with reference to Mfu^ 
Penqellt's note at iii. 65, on the Cornish Christ 
maa games and gh-dnuncc^ — consequently before 
the ap|>earance of Middle Templak's note at 
iii, 378. Supposing that my note had been con- 
signed to what Christopher North culled the 
Bida^mj-boi, I was agreeably Burpriaed by its 
appearance last Christmas Day. I hope, therefore, 
thstt Middle Templar will acquit me of ha\ingj 
overlooked or neglected hia acoount of the Tenb^^ 
piny. The object of my communication wj 
simply to show that traces survive of a rustu 
mystery play, once characteristic of Christmoil 
festivities throuy;}iout the land^ but now rapidly! 
sinking into oblivion, and even at Tenby *^{iiAi 
going to deci»y " in 1B57, nearly twenty years ago,; 
The cause of this is not far to seek. The rise i»j 
the wages of lubour, the facilities alforded for loco^j 
motion and change of place, have made the agri- 
cultUTfkl labourer so refltleaa that he ia constantly oi»J 
the move, and seldom remains in the some piiictf] 
for more than one or two years. Local habits 
associatioDs are thus broken up. The people of a] 
district become stmngers to each other, and no 
longer cultivate the same social relations as hereto- 
fore. Up to last year, when I wrote, a few young 
nien in a quiet rural valley of Roxbur«hahire> 
ten miles from any town, and about the same dia-l 
tancc from a railway station, still continued to 
make the round of the parisn, in their ordinary 
working dresg, aJHng themselves Guisards, singing 
a soDg or two in the kitchen, and then passing oa ; 
to the next house. This year even that praetio*^ 
has ceased. Not a aingle party has appeared, aU 
though the seoaon has been ojieJi and the nighta 
often Une. Among the many useful services ren- 
dered to literature by " N. & Q.," not the least 
valuable is that of storing up incidents of folk-lor& j 
and vestiges of old customs, now rapidly duiappear-. 
ing before the accelerated march of a civilization 
that bids fair to reduce all our ways to the nam* 
dead level. Of tlie old customs connected with 
the season, only that of Hogmanay survives. The 
chOilren go their rounds for cakes and penoe on the 
List day of the year as merrily as ever ; but Hal* 
loween, Christmas, Handsel Monday, and Twelfth 
Night are things of the past. W. E. 

Gem ATRIA (5*^ S. iv. 513.)— This word is, I] 
believe, u&ually taken by educated Je>va to be th« 
Greek ycof/ierpt'd, and so it ia also taken by Bux- 
torf, in his Eahfjinical Lexicon; for the word is 
of course Rabbinical. A good many Greek wordi 
have found their way into Rabbinical Hebrew, but ' 
unfortunately I hare omitted to not^ those which 
I myself have seen. A few words were also, I 
believe, Ijorrowed from the Latin btnguage, and 
one of these I am always accustomed, in my mind|. i 
to couple with ^ematria, though there ia but little 
real comiexion between them. This word ia tto- 



5** a 

teficwmj IIS Buxtorf Latinizes it, though it b, I 
believe, usually pronounced fiootrikoon {the oo'» 
like 00 in hoon) by the Jews, and is apparentlj" 
irregularly formed from tiie Latin verb no (are. It 
Ls used of M'ords of which each individual letter 
nepresents, or is supposed to represent, the initial 
letter of another word, and so to stand for that 
■word. Thus cabal would be a nootrikoon, if ita 
five lettem really stood for Clifford, Arlio^nn, 
Buckinghiini, Ashley, and Lauderdale, iis sit one 
time they were believed to do. It is in fact, or 
luay be used aa, a sort of jnnenwsjpion or mcmoria 
tcchnica. F. Chance. 

Sydenham HUL 

Eenan identifies tliis word with yioifxirpta, and 
for the frei[ueat use of this phiy upon words in 
the Kabbala refers the student to lAUratuMiti 
de* OrienUf 1849, 1850, The best known example 
of gsmatria or ghematria is the number of the 
beast in the Apocnlyp?5e, 6f)t», which Kenan inter- 
prets aii = NKri2N KAI^AP, according to the 
Hebrew arithmetical value of the letteni (Benan, 
X'jlnfMnX p. 417, note). A. L. Mathew. 


Scotch Attorney (5*^ S. iv. 428.)— If not too 
late in the day, the following extract may supply 
the infcrniatioa required by S. T. P. :^ 

'* A parasite of a dangeroua family.,,. ...The whole 

bole, cla5i>cd and a titled in Iti cmbmces^ dies and rots 
■out, and the Matapulo <or Scotch nttoTney,* n§ it is 
rudelv called her*) itandii alone on Hiked roots, and 
boara walls of youngs wi>od, slowly ct>&le8cin<^ into one 
gnm,t tnitik : master of the soil once owned by ih« 
patron on whose Titals he has fed; a treacherous 
tyrant,"— Charlei Kbgeley, At Lasi, vol. i. pp. 163*4. 



John AooLrnus (5*^ S. iii. 9, 96, 215, 370 ; iv. 
233.) -My father, Mr. Adolphus, wati not the 
author of a book published in 1797, axlled liio- 
ffraphiml Anadolis of ike Fotnifiers cf tJie Frmek 
iitjmhlic and other Eminent lliaradfrs who hnve 
Distingniithed fkmitehes in. the Progrtu of the 
Btvolution. Ilia work was entitled Biographical 
Memoirs of ih^ Frmck Revolution, It was pub- 
lished in 171)9, in 2 vols., 6vo, 

Emilt Hen'derson, 

George Butler of Bally r.\goet (5**^ S. v. 
69.)— Edmund, fourth Viscount Mountgarrett, 
married, iirst, Lady Dorothy Tauchet, by whom 
be had, with other children, liichard, ancestor of 
the present family of Mountgarrett. He married, 
BeconiUy, Elizabeth^ daughter of Sir George 
Simeong, of Bright well, co. Oxford, bv hi.^ wife, 
daughter of Lord Vaux of Horrowden. By 
this second marriage lie had a son, Edward Butler, 
to whom be left hb estates of Ballyrrigget, ^c. 

* Cluiia. 

Edward Butler married Elizabeth, dau 
George Mathew, Esq^., of Thouiuafcown, T 
by whom he bad tbree sons — Edmund (di 
less), George^ Pierce (died childless), and a 
married to Dudley Bilge nal, of Dunled 
Cjirlow. George Butler of Eallyiugget 
May 2<i, 17<X>, Catharine, eldeat daughter 
Lord Kingston. He died Sept. 19, 1753 
three sons and two daughters. His eh 
JameSf niarried Misa Dillon, of Dublin, 
ALarch 20, 1749, learing Eobert (died c 
Edward, James (titular Archbishop of 
and George. 

The above pedigree comes out of 

Pcenigc of Inland, publislied at Dubliu i 

Henry E, Bi 

The following is an exact copy of un in 
on a tablet in the south side-aisle of tl 
church of Bath : — 

"In raemory of 

George Butler, of fiallymgiret, 

in the County of Kilkenny, Eiq% 

who died Jan^ 3U'% 1813, 

aged 68 yeara. 

R. I. P." 

It is to be hoped that due Ciire will 

preserve the numerous monumental inacri 

this fine building. Many monuraentu, wl 

to be Bcen some years ago, are not m 

coming ; and it is to be feared that at 

inscription ha-* recently disappeared, 1 

copied the iQs<?ription I refer to within 

eight Dionths, and made a memomndui 

situation of it, I cannot now find tlie tubl 


Bell Horses (5"* S. iv. 40K, 521.)— B 
are race-horse&. The prince was a gold 
bell : hence ** to bear the bell/ There is 
speed in a pack horse. If your «|uerist 
hold of Chtstcr's Triumph in Honour of hi 
reprinted by the Chetham Society, he w 
good deal about the races at Cheslerj, 
given to the winners, &c. 



Lines on the Letter H (5^^ S. v, 

" From helJ, from horaepond, and frooi bata 

And placed you where you ne'er iliontd " 

In Uonour and in honeity." 

Such is my recollection of the open 
the unHwer. W. J. Bernhj.rd 


I think your correspondent is in error i 
fying these lines with Shropshire. Tl 
doubt there, as elsewhere, uneducated p©o 
der their /<'s, it is by no meana the char 
of that county as it is of Worcestershire 
lieve the lines were written about half j 
ago by a talented native of the latter c< 
think the following epitaph, from Flyl 




ij^ri i^hlA I am told is not unique), 
iibil»!y fib<»*v Uwt Worcesierahire folk.s like to 
msrtalitt iiiar nroDuncbtion on Bton<^, as the 
■d line aetsk to t>e read with their ikdditioDal h 

Biktr Mmtorj of TTilli&m Baker, died Oct., 1810. 
H L^, vfc«fc the silent marble weep« 
^1 A Wdbiy friead A»d neighbour ileeps, 
^P A bfVCher and a unelt dear, 
^^ If to the world did appear. 

He lived Let Lore, and so be died, 

BM Sl« dcdrad, bat Ood danled." 

W. M. M. 

FAVn.T (5»* 8. V. 89.)--Iii Sima's Tnder to 
dend Arfm in the Briti*h M»Mum there 
le of Pile of Chadleworth, in co. Berks, 
ihut the fiimilv were froru eo. Bucks ; 
the following referencea to the British 
M3S. :— Harleiun, 1483, fo. 119; im\ 
Ad*l. MS., 1426U, fo. 4(>. Por Pile of 
»h he refers to Add. MS., 4961, fo. fl3. 
k Pile, Fellow of King'iJ Coll., Cambridge, 
lADec 27, 1710^ aged 28, und was buried in the 
luk of St, John Baptist, Windsor. See A*h- 
Wirt B(rk»^ ToL iii. p. %. There ia no mention 
fthe Pile fiitnily in Kerry's Hundrtd of limy. 

. a J. E. 

GKZKSvihh OE Grjcnvillk (5"« S. V. 67.) 
Udy was the daughter and heiress of Sir 
'*iti, of Fitzford, in the county of Devon, 
by hia wife, a Courtcnay of Powderhuui. 
bw successively of Sir Alan Percy, Kt. (a 
eon of Henry, eighth Eurl of Northuniber- 
\trho died i^p. ; of Thomas D'Arcy (son and 
s, third Lord D'Arcy of Cliiche, 
-ter and Earl of Rivers), wlio died 
lifetime *. p. ; svnd of Sir Churles 
U at. ffourth son of Thomas, first Earl of 
K-G,y, by whom she had one daughter, 
ied lastly Sir Richard Grenville (or 
0, Kt. and Bart., the celehruted Cavalier 
By Sir Richartl, Ltkdy Grenville Jmd, nc- 
tUng to Btirke*? Lanthd (icniry (Granville), 
ne soo« who was put to death by the Parliament, 
i one dooghter, Elizabeth, m. to Colonel Lcnard, 
tauoch RoyaliBt." Aroent. 

J>evonthire there are many atones related of 

dy Howard, and, if correct, she was famed 

sh for her crimes a« for her beauty. It ia 

lieved she travcU nightly, between the hours 

light and cockcrow, in a coach of iKines, 

by h bloodliound, from Fitzford House 

lUipton Park, Each night the houud 

back ft single blade of grass in his moalh. 

Toward is to continue thb penance until 

' of grass is picked in the park. Another 

the story turns tlie lady herself into a 

thus mukes her perform a more la- 

^ journey. Emilt Cole. 

John Dawson of Sedhergh (5**» S. v. 87.)— 
In reply to Ma. Picini'ORD'a riuery respecting "Old 
Kngniving of Dawson of Sedbergh,'' I find in 
Evans's Catalogue of ForfraitSj Ko. 14944 :— 

"Dttweon, John, born at Garsdalfi, Yorkshire, ariieled 
to a Burgeon Ht Lancatter, at.d settled at 8edbergh v 
Burgeon and mathematical tejiclier ; died 1^20, aged 86. 
Mezjiotiat. Allea {painter); W. Barney (engraver)." 

Crawford J. Pocock. 

R. Brandon, the Executioner of Charles I, 
(5«* S. v. 4G, 76»)— There is a tradition current in 
Sheffield that this man ended his days there^ and 
was buried in a vault underneath the parish church^ 
Can any of the readers of '* N. & Q" say whether 
this is unfounded, and, if so, how it was that the- 
tradition arose ? Dunelmknsis. 

Elizauetii HAMtLTOjf (4** S, xi. 522 ; xii. 65, 
133, 21G J :>*» S. iv. 178, 256.)— Your correspon- 
dent (iv. 178) mentions that there is a biographic 
notice of this lady in the Christian Fretman, 
August, \Wifi. I» the writer of this sketch in thfr 
Oiri^tinn Frettman not mistaken in regjird to what 
be fiuppoaes to have been her religious opinions i 

In the Mcmoin of Elixabtth Hamilton^ by Miss 
BeDj^er, there is in vol. i. a letter of date Oct., 
1812, in which Miaa Hamilton mentions that she 
had lately become a member of the Church of 
England. See also, toward.i the end of vol. ii. of 
Miss Beoger's memoir, " Some Remarks by Miw 
Hamilton on the Book of Revelations." 

From these " Remarks," and from what Mia^ 
Hamilton has said in the letter I have referred to, 
are we not warranted in supposing that she was a 
believer in the orthodox and scriptural doctrine 
regfiiding the Holy Trinity ? R. Inqlis. 

Arabella Fitz.tamf.s (.V*> S. iv. 48B ; v. 14, 
MV) — Arabella Churchill appears to have had some 
provision from the Duke of York, lodefK-ntlent yf 
the pension on the Irish Establishment which Mr. 
.Solly mentions. My family hold lands near 
Liiiienck which, at the Restoration, belonged to 
Sir Hardross Waller, but were then, with those of 
the other regicides, confisnatcd, and grsinted to the 
Duke of York. When the private estate of King 
James was sold in 1703-4, my ancestor bought 
this portion, and iit was then charged with unnuities 
to ArabeUa anioiinting in the whole to Hnf. a 
year, which Colonel Godfrey received on her beh;tlf. 
I presume other lots were similarly charged. 


Herrick and AusoniU3 (5** S. IT. 226,471.) — 
A great many writers, besides those mentioned 
by your two correfipondents, have used bnguoge 
and thoughts verj' siunlar to those in (iaihtr 
yi Eofithuds. I have made a list of at least a 
dozen before Herrick. The following, which is 
essentially the Siime, was written several hundred 




years befoTO Anson ias, and h the enrlieflt I haTe 
yet met with ; but the imaK^ry has been sa often 
nsed to (inforcc the snn^e sr^ntiiiieiits, thnt it would 
hy no means be mie to Siiy that it also wiifl not ft 
** p1agbri»ni " from wme one earlier still ■— 

" For our titne ii a Til? Bbi&dow thn^t puocth nvay : 
■nd ftfter our entl there i* na returning r for it in fiiit 
flcttlet!} ta that no mtta commetb ftgaine, 

" Come on thtrefora, let rs enioy the good thln^ that 
are pre««nt i (mJ Jet t* epeedilj vie the creaturca like m 
in ^oatli. 

" Let TB fill our tetuet with costly ^vlne, and ointmenU ; 
and let no flower of the SpHnj; pftifo hy ti. 

" liet TS crownii otir i-oluca with /.'ok taciii before they 
be witljered, 

"Let nouo of ti (roe without hiB part of eur rolnp- 
ttioufiieite :* Jcli ub leaue tokens of our iojrulneue m 
euery pUee : for tiiia i» our portion, nnd our lot is thu." 
—Aufhorfzfil IVrfwn, 1^1, Book of Widdouj, c. ii, r. &Q. 

Bo»tan^ LSn^oliuhire, 

HKii.Vi.Tnc (.VI* a. y. 0, 54, IW.}— In Stow's 
Loiithn^ Uk. i. p. (>!>, will be found, "Monuments 
in this Chnrt'li of Sl Peter*a (ud MnL^ulji within) the 
TowiT ■' : in the chancel a " very stately nwmiiuent 
of tUv Dlnunis ; the one of Sir Ridisirfl Hlonnt, the 
fither of Sir Micbtii-l, son of the ^lid Ilirh;ml, liotli 
succertsj vc ly Li ou tenan t s o f tbc To wer. ^? ir 1 i i chp nl 
died 11 Ah., Ih^A." Their arms iire bhimneiL 
Thcdo are the KUTTie family ^a II. Blount and K, 
Lifter :it Saradeu Hou!»e. 0. \V. B. 

SKATisri Literatl-he (fj** 8, il 1"J7, ir>C, 31 S, 
aTJ) ; iv. 177j43T.)— If Mr. Fostkr will cxcuf^e 
the licliiy, here in one niore work to add to hi<^ lis^t : 
*' TAt' tSkakr^s .Vontfor, Instrurtoi; mni EinttUff 
( ^mjiii'i H ion. With En t^v i n ^!* [t wo c t t.'h i n ;f ^ iV nd 
Ki\ wniidl woodt'ut^]. Erlmbiir^h : Jr*bn ifenitit'-i, 
fii, Pi I ore's fslroct, l^ri;' i>]j, TR. TIk^ Kub-cnp- 
tion lisit was headed by Prince Albert. No 
anthor^i! name appeari*, only the s^liain signature of 
"Walter Hove" at end of Preface. But I ain 
vopcli fop the author hstvin^ been Mr, Whitcliiw, 
of 8, James Pkce, Leith Linkrf, Edinburi,'hj uiy 
prc3**nt*'%tinn copy bearin^r his anto*;ft?iph, *' in tc??ti- 
iiiony of the hij^h satisfaction which — — 's ilUi><- 
trtitionrt of the i<kater'i MGmt(n\ &c., have piven 
the mibsrrihersj but eapecially the Author," I 
believe itr. WTiitclaw'a name was Miilthew. 

J. W. K. 

3foIuh, by A^hford, Kent 

RoTAL Hkads ns Bklls (4*^* S, k, TG, S^iii, 
3i>r> : xti. 85 ; f."* R i. 235, 417 ; ii. SIR ; iv. 139.) 
— ^Tljorc i-H another of these interestinj;: bell^i at 
Li^hthorn*^, AVarwick,^hire. The inscription hi piir- 
tieidiirly clear and |>erfect '— 

Initial croM and letters ua at Cliippenbam, Cainbs. 


* Mftt^in tAjs, "or iolitie." 

The Society of Friends (5* S. it. 471; 
V. 1 2.)— To the pubiicAtbns mentioned by Ml 
HjckE8 T bepr t<) add The Ann^tal MoftUsrr; m, 
ObitrnxTy of tJie Memhert of ih^ Society 0/ Friak 
in Great Britain and Irdand^ publi^ed tf 
McsKTs. Kitto & Marah, London, and. of whicli tk 
thirty-fourth volume (new series) has mat &ppcini 
NuBicrouB tracts were iaued by the zark Frieotf 
Tract Association, among thera one (Y, Xoi 9| 
entitled Scntivi^tti 0/ the Soeicty of FriaJim 
IHHiU Woftliip and Gomel Ministry, fcipi Sn 
1(; pp., printed by John L. Linney, York^ luidnti 
by U. Qilpin, Binhop^gate Street^ I^ondon, wfaiii 
will no donbt meet EmRLHERTA's wimt. 

Pr^ni July, 1832, till the end of 1S37 (li 
nuinbers generally of IC pp.) appeared at ixnffk 
inten-3ik a periodic&l publication entitled fl 
l'ori\*/u>f>iiin, a Rdigiotts and Liitrary Jmrti 
hit <T Friend (i, c, Luke Howard, Esq., F.B^S.,^ 
of Ack worth), printed and published at Fontefi^ 
iind eon tain in^r n series of articles mnniof fta 
Xo. le to No. 120, with the heading, " Adin» 
lof^ical Siimtnnry of Events and Ciicutinbitf 
connected with the Origin and Piogtew dfk 
Doctrine and Practloea of the Quakent.^ 



lErnELDEEti should write direct to Ma. BicEfilr 
the iurorniation she now aiki. Uit >4d»i8 wu pi*J 

WiiiiTixM Dogs oitt of Cdukgh (3** & '^ 
mi\ S14 ; V. 37.)— In the life-size portrait rf (J 
Srarlett, the sexton, hung; (so curiously flirt ■ 
jilacc) in the uav& of Peterboroufrh Cathednl,* 
iloy-whip h scen^ throjit through his waist-befc. 


PoKTa TTiR Masters op L^i?rouAGE(4*fi.* 
un I r/h B. iv. 431, 491 ; t. 14, 37, 51, 7iH 
luive juat been loukinK at that, I helif t«,^ 
iiiucb dcrfpij'ed book, Lutdky Murray^ wid 16* 
in vol. i. p. 1G4, in ti note to the partieiplt "^^^ 
wken" r— j^ 

"Walker &b«rves that Milton hixi avmUed liiBurfj 
t11l^ licence of hiA art (an ni-t u apt to corrupt ff*^^ 
iLii to tumq nnd a<ldra luij^itagfl) to use the^tntdl* 
thU Ttrb fur the pjirtioiiile :— 

' Th' immortal mlcd that hath foffook 
Her mansioo.'" 

I think the parenthesis Biimfl up the eonti©T«q'' 

Mn, PicTON unquestionably sp^s the a en^j 
most neadera of " N. & Q.," both in his *PP*J 
of " loved and aung,'* and in his utter rpproWj 
of " there let him lay." I think this terriM* \ 
may Iw; juiralleled by a line in Cain^ Act ilit*' 
*' L«t He who nude thee wwwer that." 

To quote Br, Gattt^s wordB, " I ask otbtf^ 
your reudera what they think of the nv ^^ 
word**iftf. W. WnisTtJF. 

,.fk& 13,71] 



P'^'-^'-: Names (5*^ S. iLp^tssim; 

U>, ~ In aearching the registers of 

I. , . *-.-.. ,rd, lately, I came across n. 

irijmoipie of a bond^U doubLo Chris- 

wm^Uiitm^ dkoghier of Sir Prancia Wiogate 
■^ Aaae liig ^tfe, baptized Bee. 17.*' 

B. C. E, 

ox Church Plate (5^ S. v. 
Bl>— If M», lyD will give us the Assay 
on the older piece of plate, he will 
Bti niMritf^ an acceptable aenrice. Mr. 
list (publkbcd 1863J hag only one speci- 
hf aiphiib«l used 1438 to 1457, nnmely, 
H, P. P- 

Faji3fcis PBtnsosf fS** S. v, 67, 93.j— 

120, 1U5, 23i), ilK StTLiivAK will 

n concerning this* g.Jlant otTi- 

There is in the National Gul- 

paintLnii;^ Iiy Copley, representing 

of Major Peirson in 1781, nnd thin ha^ 

well engraved- There is also a ^niaJl 

oi"u iu voL xvi. of Hnme and Smollett'* 

tidy with continuation by the 

^, B,D., London, 1S35. 

John Pickporp, M.A. 
Bcetory, Wooabnilge. 

of bis Bisters were tjiven pensions of 
each. T. J. Bennktt. 


«ri,r. K,^ Accepled an inritation cmnnot dig- 

1 it, the nuutcr of the fcust ctinnot 

ninent on any pretence whatever, 

i:ne*f^ not even death itaelf, can din- 

jfixtion which he ia under of fjiviug 

: jr which ha has wsnt out invitations, 

e been tiocepted ; for in the extreme cases of 

ah««'n»,or *J«ath. hi«pI»«?o may he filled hv hi* 

OtiKi'i, hy ^V. iitichijier, M.I1., new edition, 
*Vi p. S7, 

T. W, 0. 

I, I think, conid be settled by ilr. 
Tin Tho^i$and a Ycar^ bk, iv. ch. ir. 
353, People'^ Edition). The learned 
1, doubtless, ^pply hb address. 

P. J. F. Gaxtillox. 

" (r/h S, iv. 4m, 523.)— While 
' ^ with the etynioiojn' given by 

t*H iC, I would suggest to him that the 
rords he f?ivei, viz., entoxir^tr and aloxicar^ 
te only in form ; the newer entoiigar and 
>ein<; of frequent occurrence with the 
idiig, namely, *^ to poison." 

A. W, Plbace* 

Coin Imfrkssions on Bells (5** S. iv. sriC, 
473.)— This is a subject wluch has often been 
referred to in " N, & Q*" i but biw it ever been 
questioned where the said coins on bells are real 
coins or impressions only ? In olden times pious 
persona threw gold and silver ornnments into the 
molten metal as votive otTerings, The metiil of the 
great bell of Burmah, after it was broken up, was 
sjiid to be worth 66,565?., and pieces of gold and 
silver were said to be traceable, unmelted, in the 
metal. At the present day coin;* are put beneath 
foundation stones of great buUdin^Fs. Now, is it 
not possible that rc<!tore, churchwardens, and others 
concerned woidd gladly furnish a coin for their 
belJ ? If coins were placed upon the mould, would 
the molten metal not gather them up, as it were, 
nod present them to view for j:jenei"utions ns the 
votive oflerinj^s of those concerned in getting the 
beil cast ? If they nre impressions only, why so f 
There would be no " virtue " in an impression (?). 
I have seen coins on bells presenting the obverse 
nnd reverse of a Charles IL shilling remfirkably 
clear and distinct. Would the mould take, and 
the bell-metal present, a clear and distinct im* 
pression \ EagLK. 

Impressions of coins are found so frequently 
upOQ church hells that an attempted list of in- 
stances wguld be much too long for the cohirans of 
*' N. & (}." In Leicestershire alone I find English 
coins dating from the fifteenth century to the reign 
of George III. At North Kilworth, in that 
county, there are impressions of a coin of John V. 
of Portugal. 

A reference to the printed lists of inscnptiona 
on church bells wiH supply very many instances. 

Thomas North. 
The Bank, Leicester. 

The "GLiiiTs' Graves" at Penrith {o*** S. 
iv. 44, f)5.) — There is an old engraving of this 
monument in which wild boars are represented 
on the slabs, which stand edgewise between the 
columns. I think the artist must have drawn 
largely upon his imtigination ; at least, when I saw 
the intones, more than thirty years ago, there wns no 
device visible beyond a sort of rude crcnelation. 
The upright monoliths are sculptured with orna- 
ments, amongst which the qutitrefoil is most con- 
spicuous. They are about 12 ft, high, and stand 
about 15 ft apart. W. J. BERiraARD Smith. 


*^ Teetotal" (5«» S. iv. 429 ; v. 18.)— S.T.P.'a 
note reminded me of a paragmph I had seen in 
Haydn's Didmiary of Dai^ (Itith edit., 1661), 
!ind when I referred thereunto, sub ** Teetotaller," 
I think I found the name of the hero of the cop- 
per medal : — 

'* An artisan of Preston in Lancashire, named Rkbnrd 
Turner, in addreiaing temperance tneetitigs in that and 



[5'*S. "fi 

other towns, acknowledj^eU tlmt he liad been a hftrd 
drinker most part of bis lifo ; and boing Bin iHitemta 
mRti, and in want of & word to eipreas how much he 
then abst\mi?d from remit nnd apirita, used to exclaim, ' I 
nm now a Teetotaller,' and hence the phrase— about 

St. SwiTHiN. 

Womkn's Rights (5"» S. iv. 209, 493 ; v. 37.)— 
Mra. Ann Baa*, of Aylestone, Leiceatershirc (lutely 
deceaied), wfls an e^ccellent churchwarden of that 
parish for several years. It is evident, frain the 
following entry in tlie Hall Book {in MS.) of the 
CoTiwration of Leicester, under date of 1621 ^ that 
women were Hometimes admitted to the freedom 
of that horou^jh :— 

** It is agreed by a penertiU eonsent thut William 
Ilmrtiliorae, huabandioan, ahiUl he made n fTreeman of 
thla corpofdcon, payinge such flTyrie ag Mr. >faior and 
the Chiunblyna that now bo shrtU assess. But ho is not 
allowed any freedome or priviledKe hj reason that hi» 
mother w»« made a ffreewotnan, Neilhfr i3 it thought 
Hit that any woman be hereafter niaile free of this cor- 

Thomas North, 

The Basic, Leicester. 

Leases for 99 or 099 Years (5»* S. iv. 289, 
472 ; V. 54.)— Oa July 25, 1811, Sir Oswald Moa- 
ley, Bart,, lord of the manor of Manchester, de- 
mised a plot of land tit Aneoats, in that township, 
for nine thousand utno huniilred ami niuety-ninG 
years, which term will expire in the yejir of our 
Lord ll,810j when hh heirs or assigns can eject 
the tcnant5, and take possession of all buildin;?;?* 
atanding thereon. Now I could never conceive 
irhy Sir Oswald did not originally make the p^rant 
for an even ten thousand year^, for it would merely 
have allowed the leaseholders another twelve 
months before such rigorous lueasures coidd he 
enforced. James Hiusok, F.R.H.S. 

Ardwick, Manchester. 

"The BcFfs" {2"'i S. vi. 431 i i:A^ S, v. 49.)— 
The extract from the Hktorical I^iconh of the 
It&giment seems to imply that the Btiffs furuied 
part of the expedition which saileil from St. Helens 
on March 29, 1761, hut does not distinctly 3tate 
80. On the other hand Beatson, Naval and Mili- 
iary Mimoirs^ declares that it did not, but that 
it followed some weeks later. He^ives the liat of 
the fourteen detachments and their commaoders 
(vol. iii. p. 33t>), and fully defjcribea the attack on 
BelleiBle on Apnl 7, which, it is well known, was 
unsuccessful ; and adds that, " when the news 
reached London of the check General Hodgson 
had received, the nation seemed displeased, not 
havinj^^ he«*n accustomed of late to rebuffs of this 
sort. The luinistor immediately ordered a rein- 
forcement of four battalions of infantry," &c. 
(vol. ii. p. 462). And in the list of these four 
the first is the Bufle, under Major J. Biddulph. 

Accord tog to Tooue'a Chrmology of the liHgn 

of George III., 1B34, the news of 
Ho<lgson'8 attjick upon Belleisle wt 
London by Capt. Kllis and Ciipt. 
Eseorte, on April 10 ; cind *' *he tei 
with the regiment of Old Euff^ 
Spithead" on May 14, 17liL Belleis 
on -June 8. Edwj 

Sutton, Sufff J. 



Philological (5"» S. iv. 489 ; v. 
beg to tender my best thanks to your 
spondenta for their prompt and full ana 
query. Dux 1 


Materinh for th& History of Thotnas B 
bishop of Cttnterhunf, (Canonize 
Alexander III., a.d. 1173.) Editcic 
Cratgie Robertson, M. A., Canon of 
Vol. L (Longnums & Co.) 
The present volume of maleriuls for th 
of Becket consists of the life, autf 
miracles of the archbiwhop, told by 
monk of Caoterbury. The life ia shorl 
136 pages, while the miraclea fill the r( 
546 pti'^es. There is nothinji; new in 
We are told how the archbishop was 
seveml of the biahops who snpporte< 
above whose crown Thomaa would hi 
crozier, and would have ruade Enjfhiud 
a foreign government ideated at Ron 
course of tlie narrative there ia occasi* 
cumatance or incident which prorok 
Thia occurs even in the account of ll: 
Thomas. The writer was affrighted at 
Fitx Urse, "Strike! strike!" Thi 
meant general slaughter, and not deem 
fit for glorious martyrdom, he very 
and nipidly retreated : " minus idonei 
celeri tergiversatione, f^dus ascendi, 
manus." The minicles, printed for the 
amount to IGS. Souie of them ioi 
childish ; others show that there we 
men who had considerable doubts as t 
bi^hop'a sanctity, He seems to Imvt 
moved for very inditfereut purpose ; 
what seems, to men of the present time; 
was holiness in the eyes of sincere nn 
ages. We make extract of one, bee 
aometimes been held that one species e 
called " leprosy " in those ages was, ii 
tical with another loathsome dtseaae, 
cording to souie writers, was brought i 
by the Cru sutlers. Be this as it may, tl 
is not without interest to those whc 
science of contagious diseases : — 
** De eo ciiii leprttm incurrit quia meretric 
** Veaerabili Cftntuanentii e«cletiaB p 





tiri&fter ttti 

eoDTentui, fmter Fulco prior beati 

, et Hugo de Praeriti eiiceriJot, 

Tolumus caritata: vestne mlra- 

ia parocliin nostra effuiaisse. 

tium Ifttorem Odon«m nomine, 

Dottrum, meretncem adharsiase, 

pMCBtom pucmum peccati kpram contra- 

Fiie componcto conrolanB ad confesfionis 

acerptoin a nobii con«ilio, lacum in quo 

VBMTijT et pontifex reqtiiescit adiro de- 

ifl perpetuum Be c&mcm non guataturuni,. 

ittiM. sexta bibitumm, nee interulftin in^ 

TOtom compleret. Quid plur&'l Voti 

ci'xnedit, ct confcHtim fracto roto 

cjofl elephantino morbo pcrcussum est 

tta dacttu conitilio noatro votum iteraTit, 

l^nui ; edcquQ infra brere tempua euro ipHius 

lerm iniidiMr rcsliCttta e«t uuit&tt. Hoc autcu aauccifi 
ftttrc*. spod tioi aettun int«r ceetera pretioit mar- 
tinet* aacribi qiuaesaxniu faciatis." 

mimcles seem to have been written for 
II/« reodlng. The one above will suggest 
$abjeci& for remark to those who are fotul of 
ing ioto bygone ways of life ; but, in fact, 
few of toe miracles here recorded that 
tlie satne tendency. We tiiust add that 
is edited with the taate, judgTEent, and 
which tbf Government and the country 
>in the gentlemen employed in such re- 

^■■•>trnt Englifh Podry, ConsiRting 

iitilladft, SoHj^s, and other l^ieces 

..x..i Poets. Together with some few 

pr Day*. I5y ThoMiJia Percy, Ijord Bishop 

r>raore. 2 vols. Edited by J. V. Prickiri 

ill & Stjas.) 

10 hod come for a reprint of the selections 
^fe8 Percy reinarke, ** from an ancient folio 
the editor's pos8cs«ion, which contains 
two hundred poems, fiongs, nnd metrical 
Thi« luanuBcript wiis written about 
middle of the la>»t (the feventeeDth) century, 
fait contains compositions of all times and dates, 
t: ' „'es prior to Chaucer to the conclusion 
1 of Charleys I." This collection will 
Hui, ui LMiifie, excite the enthusia.'^ni which it did 
ainoag many learned readers in earlier days, when 
" tt worlts on the sAme subject were scarcely 
it»ble, but it will Y^m very welcome to manyj 
renhdess. The biehop, who dedicated the ori- 
work to " the EJKht Hon. ElJzfibeth, Coun- 
of Northumberland in her own right, Baroness 
r, Lucy, PoyningB^ Fitz-Payne, Bryan^ and 
ler/' plumes himself, in his Preface (a quaint 
of writinf;^ well worth the reading), on the 
care that bad been taken ** to admit nothin;: 
or indecent." But lime hua changed 
s, 8tyle» and opinions ; and there are thinj^^ 
' T '^*e poems that would warrant the above 
■ ^% and SIX baronesaes rolled into one (were 
Aflf now alive) to blush with the power of aeven. 

Our Place omong I*jinit\et, by R. A. Proctor (Henry 
8. King k Co.), i« (wt quote the liile^fiage) "a leries of 
csaajB, coritrajiting our little ubode in spac* Jind timQ 
with the infinities around u»." Eb8«j« on aitrologr and 
the Jewiab tabbath itre added. The writer ftcknowledgefl 
that hit Tiewi " rep|>ecliiijc: the intereitinj; qiustion of 
life in other worlds bave chaugcd contnderablj " since bo 
wrote on that lubject. 

FnoM MewTB. RiriniHon we Iiave received two more 
matalmentB of Mr. 8torr'i t^xcellent "English School- 
Cla«8ic«," Xoiet to Scolt'» Wavtrtty (H. W. E^c) and 
Macauiajf't Euay o» /{atlam'i drntUlutioyiai Bistory 
(H. F. Bojd)— Booh XL XIL of ifu .Entid of VivtjU, 
edited with Kotea by F. t^torr, B.A., is intended ipecially 
for the uao of higher forms in public pchof)]*— <S'f(*riejt 
frttm Grid tn KUgiae Vtritt with Notca, ic, by 
11. W, Taytor, M.A., is a companion volume to 31 r. 
Taylor's telection from the MiinmoT})koteg (Kugbv, W. 
Billington)- Parts V., VI., and VIL of Mr. Oarfand'i 
Grnf$i$, tritk jVofe* — Ar* PaMoiia, by F. Parrifll, 
M.A., Rector cf Oitcod, is excellent, if only for the 
" Hieitfl on Serniona." We read : '^St, Vincent de Tiiul, 
lamenting one day that his earnest prcachinj; bad hut 
little effect, met a Tinedresser, and asked him how his 
iermons were liked. * Sir,' he rejiliedj * we are all sensible 
that everything you tell us is good, but you preach too 
long. We ignorant menare just like our own wine ruts^ 
the juice must have plenty of room left to work in ; and 
once filled to the hrim, if you attempt to pour in more, 
even if it be the Tery best juice in the worlil, it vill only 
be spilt on the ground and l&at."'~Tke P^iKagorean, 
TriangU : Of, thf. ,icienr€ of Numhtttt by the ReT. G. 
Oliver, If.D., &c. (Hogg & Co.), is posthumous, and 
printed verbatim et h'teralim from the author b hitherto 
unpublished MS. — Here we should mention A Sketch of 
Ike lltMiory oftKt Antunt and Ptimilivf Ritf ff Matmirj/ 
in Ffancf, America, and Gtfiti Britain, vkft CharUrt 
and other DocuMtnU (Jolm Hogg). — Peminuctncfs of 
Three Oxford \VortKit»,hj 3. M. Cliapronn. JVl.A. (Jamos 
Parker), cannot fail to recall plpasing rfcoUcctiona in the 
mindi of tho«e who worked witli John Kebtc : — 
*' Too strict A Churchman for a libeml uge. 
'He found not, sought not, lofty patronage; 

Saw friends and pupils, witii uncnvious eye, 

Rais'd to high itatiun, and himself pass'd by"; 
Joliu Miller, who originally suggested the title of " The 
Chrifftirm Year" ; — 

" Arerse from aimleas theory and strife, 

lie taught the Gospel as a rule of life *' ; 
and C. A. Ogiltio :— 

" No son of Oxford deem'd more worthy there 

To fill with dignity the Pastoral chair." 
To the lines on Mr. Miller is prefixed a memoir by Dr. 
VVilw^in, late Prfgidenl of Trimty.— MeMTs. Parker 'ha^e 
mlso ipgued Aristotdh tlf Arif Poetiea (Vahlen^a Text), 
I with Notes by the Rev. E. Moore, B.D., Principal ofSi. 
E«lmund Hall, Oxford, It appears that pome eighty 
years have elapsed since the appearance of an Engiifh 
edition of the Po<ttci ; Mr. Moore's object, therefore, it 
to place before the Bnglish student the latest resuHs of 
modem research.— OnyAe vfi to Obey the A^of Court 
Created by the Public lVor$kip Regulation Aeit by 
Orby Shipley, M.A. (Pickering), is opportunely reprinted 
from the Contfmporary R^tvietp, with, for motto, an ex- 
tract from Hooker, book viit., Ecc. Pol., " If the cause 

be spiritual boldly and lawfuIW we may refuse to 

answer before any civil judge." Mr. Shipley concludes 
bis paper thus, *'At the Quettion ultimately revolves 
itself into one of obedience to God or man, the writer 
can only, with much diffidence, yet with all earnettneas^ 



[J" 8. V. Feb. 11, Tt 


m&ke anatver lliat, >Ve cn-nnot recoj,'nize tine Tiewjnd;to, 
we oUKlit I'ot t" o^cy the New Court, created by ih% 
ftuthority of the Pnblic Worship Kesulntion Act/'— In a 
IFonHbofikfo Foir'ord Church (P»irfopd, T. Pciwell) will 
be fmind n fuU description of itt memomble window*.— 
Mi*. Jl. W. Hciifrey h»t printed e«parately hi a papers on 
Oliver Cromtr^-fCi iSceplrr And The yatiorud Flags of the 
Cor/iniontreatih ; rtkI Mr. W. Winttra has published, in 
commcmomllon of it« reiteration by t^lr T. F. liuiton, a 
lii»toi7 of the I^dj Qmpel of WaUhiim Abbev.— TAc 
JJooIr of tht OVntration of Jtms Chrut (MacintH:«h) is an 
explniaticn, by the Kev. Q* W. Butler, M.A., of the dif- 
ficoltie* connected with the genealogy of our Lord. 

TBI Librariaiwhip of the Queen's College, Cork, bu 
heva canferred on Dr. Caulfield, Royal Cork loetUalion. 

A SKCOsu edition hua been called for of the Lok 
Maatuit'f and Rrvutr U>r February, in which the article 
on the " Exterritoriality of Public Shipi of War in 
FarcJgB Waters " is from the pen of Sir Trafcra Twies. 

^Qtitti to €atttipmi9t\Hi. 

Ov ftll communicationi should be written the name »nd 
»ddrtn of the sender, not neoeoanly for publication, but 
M » guamntoe of good futlu 

W. n PoissoN-— The answer mny be found in EnplautCs 
Worlhcs in Church and Stale, c xiv., "Note here that 
in the time of Henr;y VI. de fvch a place wa* left off, 
•md the addition of knight or squire was assumed, though 
fiotgtntniU^ in all ptactsS* 

Mju J. Malax.— We will attentirely read whateter 
oar corre«poDdent may ple&Be to tend us on the labject 
of the picture which ii said to repretent the marriaRe of 
8hakspeitre and Anne Hathaway. The MS. ab-eady re* 
ceiTed is not to the purpose. 

Icxoftisi^s hii only to ask his wine-merchant for an 
ftliswer to his first (juery. The Irish word in the swjond 
query denotes the two materials of which the diih ia 

K. E. M.— It ia now known that the interertiBg ac* 
ooniii of Collins, the poet, in the OentUwan'M Magazintt 
l^fftiA v., was by Gilbert White, of Selbome, 

A. J. B. a«k«^ " In which of Thomai Carlyle*a works 
can 1 find hia reuiarka on 3lr. A. C. Swinburne]" 

Her>ie>'truue.— It only applies to new corrcfipon- 

'A.— Tliere should he no mark whatcTer on the final 
TDwcL The use of the sign named is quite erroneoira. 

C. G. H.— Recciied; accept our thanks. 

A\\ W. B. — The volumes hare appeared irreguUrly, 

EiiRATUM--^Pp. 63, U, A. L, G.'s query in " Who Shot 
lifelaoiil" commencing '* Would any contributor," &c., 
should be, '* Would any contributor to * N. k (j-* be able 
to give an idea if there was ever ground etaled, on rcU- 
able etidence, for eonjocturinjf that an act of murder 
ended Villencuve's days, rather than that, as is the 
general belief, lie died by suicide ! " 

Editorial Communications should be addressed to "The 
Editor of * Notes and Ciuerie>"*— AdvertiBemente and 
BusiDMS Letters to "The Publisher "—at the Olhce, '^0, 
WelliDgton Street, Strand, London, W .C. 

We beg left?e to state that we decline to return com- 
mmvioktions which, for any reason, wo do not print ; and 
to this rule we can make no exception. 


JOHN FIUNC19»tfi, 

n ME of Norris iso 

t.«jriTKi hjr JOHN FRA?kCl-'i,», WcUi. 


QUERIES, No«. n, I7S, 19», fctid Index t« \ 
TBIBD MKaiiM liH HhllllBC eurli vlU t>» flvn H J\>m 
PaAJiCIfi,».W«Uii>ttoai8tnM.3tnud. ,; 




niQBtr«ird with S|i«elm»n Pwea Dr post. Hn^ 

Thk day is i>uhU>h»l, {iric* 7«. Stf. 

rUl?«T*:i1 H<«'«K>^ 1r, Ow L-.l.nrr ■>f TnnU/ * .il^ 
hridgf- nTK(»tlfilLI ; 

of Traaitj CoUtf «^. J 

tn 1 T«I, mediooi Sro. villi Pwitnil, vrto*lt4 

^^WE LITERATURE -^ ' V ^'^r^'^ '- 
Fu*Y on th« LaQKUBce r 
Twelfth and Tiro auQcc«di»< «'» 
iTK'iKof AtiHMJt Wel«h Po-'r. 
Bt tbeUta THoMAH bf^ 
unci CoTrPctioiiJ hy the A 
KVA».S,J1,I>. WJth»L*r 

Jutl f^uMtshwI, in Sto, price 5». flolh, 

ON the EXIST' :, ,f MIXED r 

Kithool t>f Mijilern J r.- rrtpeciflllTfti- 

Prite Fway^JiyJA.M f.> ' ic ^..^■^n KLL Oi.lHT<;ii, i rn. vr 
lliKliirle&l S<%ei«^\ Member »t the Enirlub l>l«ioot Sooifltj 
•IlluddcnfleldCulkitt-, late Modern ilfciur at LiTcrpvo! 


With C:a)oaf«d U*p* iui4 Mg tltastrmlioiM, 1 nlo. I 

nir.LK LANDS. Illastrttiv« of £K!ni>tttrc Bj HKNJ 

" It Is iroT'onlblc to aTFr-cftimal^ tbt rnlot nod importtiBa^^ 
Lttuocjp'f worlc tjo iiit^Qsdr relialila »re the nUtemtntat 
•eemi mdffd tn bv ttbwtololj iptpofijblc. in mi v tutulir iBlia'Mi 
TftUdattthcok.fortb* tnorc iU |i«ce« *T : -1 

modi t)i« more oonalntlvc will It appMr h « 

u ii dent* adJng %xxA a tlutnmf h tppTwi* t 

•carpolj b« flxpwted ever to app«ftr.''— 7w ^ - , .,.'.^u 

JOHN :iIDn]£AV, AlbeiniirL* btre«L 

Now read jr. syo. 7*. 6d. 

Lflrtvm dr<UTerrd In ^i Junea's DitLFob, nccadUmr, 
f^illonrlog :>ubjaftU. \Ttlha rrcAca. Bf Re*. J. £. KElllJ'fi 


Tht"\iT. IMTTATirtSE ClllliaTI. 

Muter of \l»rU»orougli. 
The " PENSfiEsi- nf BLAISE PASCAU R, W. 

Dean df Ht. Paul i. 

D R, D«*n of Korwleh 
jj ^ v^ , ., -. . ..J,,, SAIXTS- BEST.- a. C. Trtiwb, HS^i 

' V\XX. 

li'l B*3 ♦• COSrES^IOKB.- W. Aloaadcr, 



Hnnji'hrr. RIJ., Vicar of ^i. Mam it. 

" Wp ninft hfirSily njipfuTt^ the tu^ P.pot.jr of 

J«iinrii\whlcli hM r«tuU*d ju ih*? ■pp" IC i 

b« hoped th»t the aircuUtl>>n of it id-i> iNlt 

KenH (o follow it by aD^^tliir mad «iiii' "i 

Thiw w kMJtbful ivw\ (ur tlf ilrinicti* ' ^ J '.'.i 

tot the tnttter of (hit), and it will be « ..tritiul 

to proyldc tbem wjth tdctity of It "-L* m. 

JOHW UURBAY, Albt 1 t. 




SAfO^A r, rElniLAny tv, lara. 

^ITTBKTB. — N* 113. 

ir«r«i)iiD." lil— The Cid»<^Qmh« %i 

l«»-Sh*k*ptMi*nv 143-"KJd«" 

r J*4r^AiiyiMtiDlEii»— The Religion of J 
w^" — llie SrjutlieTii Cton, 14&— Mec- 
• is 1787— The Coajng&l SUte— flow 
I Ecir»i<lr7— A i^tratlse CoinddeDoe— 

Parocchl-Fe^kQ Fwnily-S!r Peter 

of Um "Son" Newspaper— Str 

" k— ClAdiAViria Herb*— Foan- 

i^fMt Park Id Eo^laod— J. P. 

>Trt«it, Bishop of (ihcnt-An Old 

'Pelrarcli, itc—tLev, R. ijibfon— 
•— -^hrery— Kpluph on * DAaghtar of 

of Ormonde. US— Wberrie*— " J«b- 
Loa««^it7— Umi-Oen. Sir Alei. 

id Her»ldry'£*rl Eowe &nd tbe 

Wlt» of Frasoe aod.Spkin, 14a—'* Coming 

" '^stanas, 151— "The Rook,' by 

S*m, lSS-HornK»rth— Jviylna 

'. uijrthini; new under th« «od ? " 

Mrivury Broadxbeetfl — Ctuioiu Erroni 

17— MisUture of Oaltiftbdnnigb -Tbe 

QnAwinif of n Wnnti— Jknuml fn 

»'^-Tf " ' L4DaughU.r"' 

▲pIMrftl "— Etjrni . ihlen "—The 

lUiDbar^h C. on Aiirll Hi, 

BllU7niCBe^--Thtf i jiarwrinMist; : Iteavort 

or MaiulAnjhter T 1£>7 — Mndcftl 

'■'i-BamtdJC'-Sir Heniy Wottoo, 158. 




^HepondeDt haH geatly, we might say 
fwched us for hnv'mg omitted, in the 
«r of " N, & Q.," all reference to Bishop 
uid the fiestival of lovers. The re-iftun 
'' shortly givpn. All tlmt 
1 niiLQ and the festiyui ha.? 
i; ^liu, '.yn iLQd ovef HgaiQ. This, fit 
fitr as it rehites to England, .Shall we 
OA to recover the good will of our 
we 8*7 a word or two touching the 
is tbought of him in France,— in 
[t, iThe may Imj so called without irre- 
^onsieur VulBntiii I EAmifons, 
to b<rgin with) does Moosieur Valentin 
ip I Well, almost naturally, perhaps the 
carrence of the tenn *' Valentine," fis 
ft lover, is to he found in Rabekis 
V). In the eighth chapter of the third 
\*t^^icJ)f the author support:^ certain 
|Bpertions by saying, " temoing Viviir- 
^^^Valentin." In the glofi«^ftry to the 
iPfDesoer, ie«2<)), ** Valentin" is inter- 
llAntiii"^a gnliant. In the Amstetdutn 
41, the word "Valentin" has a more 
Uosfcration, " It is the custom in sevend 
ttuce, on the erening of the first Sunday 
r itt Httle people of the streets to assign, 

by loud cries, to the young girls of the pkce 
their Vakntim, and to the young fellows their 
J\dentmes; in other words, gallanti to the dams^la, 
and Viutressa to tbe youths. It is clear from this," 
?ay3 the editor, " that FaUntin is a diminutive of 
gahntf and as in old romances no chevalier pre- 
sumes to dockre his love to a lady till he has die- 
tinguished himself by his prowess in combat, it is 
posijible that Vakntin and ffalant are derived 
from miens. Jlorwjver, thL* same wonl VaUntin 
formerly also signified a dealer in jewellery and 
fine thingB known by the name of rfaluntcricsj* 
The writer then quotes from Gille d'Aurigni's 
Ordonnanc^s ttur lig Faits dr^ MaMpits the follow- 
in fj passage, printed at tbe end of the ArriU 
(V AmouT^ by Martial d'Auvergne : — 

" Item, «st defendu a toai march&Bds de dr«pi, d6 
soye, ou do Uine, chapeliera. ptamaciers, hnKiours, 
valentim, yendeurs d« mMqups et jjarfums de rtfuaer 
precter, bailler h> credit lear« denree* aux conipaigmooa 
niMquei *»n« fraude, depuU la veille dt> S.imt Martin 
dYv«r juflqtiei A la sQiuAine saints tnclarivemeot, en 
buillant pur Ie« dieUi masques Icur grivelve, pourveu 
qa Au precedent \\& n'ayent est^ cudellez et BttAchez." 
^ In the sixteenth century, the date on which the 
French swains paid their devoirs t^^ the nymphs 
waa not on our Valentine's Bay, but Innocents' Day, 
or ChOdermaa, the 28th of Deceuiber. The former 
took upon themf5elve.s the right to enter, on the 
morning of the anniversary, the houses of friends 
and neighbours, and, wherever they found a nymph 
fttill in bed, they proceeded to administer a chas- 
tisement for her luziness. Of course this could be 
avoided by timely rising ; yet occ^isionally there 
were daring damsels who remained snugly and 
defiantly in bed, but these claimed exemption from 
the penalty by exhibiting the arras of France 
nairite<i upon them in a way which Voltaire and 
lUbehiia would hiive been delighted to describe, 
and which " N. & (.)" need not attempt. 

In Lorraine and Bar the custom of couples be- 
coming each other's Valentino prevailed at the 
ducal court as well as it did in villages, where it 
is still said to linger. In the accounts of the ducal 
household at Nancy there is the entry of a sum 
expended by the Duke Charles III. for a gift to 
the Counteis of Salm, " who had been hi* Valen- 
tine." This was very common on this aide the 
Channel in the seventeenth nentur>'. 

In that century^ in the year 1669, tlie Paris 
publisher, CI, Barbier, put forth an oct-avo uf a 
himilred and twenty-six page?, called Valtiiiifut^ 
QucMimis (rAmoiir ti anirej I*u€eg Galantfn, Ac- 
cording to the preface, the writing of such pieces 
of love and gallantry was of a remote origin : — 

*' The play of Vdontinea \fna inreTit'd jv lon^ time 
ago; but it ia only recently thnt Valenthieft liaise been 
vcnified- Those upon which I have put luy hand are 
tij be fuund in this hook. Now, the aport or gamo of 
ValentiucB, to be played properly, must be played in 
this way. The written naioes of thirty men nnd thirty 
women mu«t be put into sixty different piecos ot paper ; 


The French onr^per^ La iM^^^^ft 2Lat of 
December^ 18<I9» after itatiiig tftst ■a utDOccnt 
mm gUDe, called "Let Annanoei Rim^" or 
** Bbrtned AdTerttienfeiit*,* ww likehr to be Ter/ 
liopuW thnrngfaoot the vister, remarked :— 

** AttfT ill, thk if M novelty ; ii !• limplj » rcocwuK 
of «• h»i U very dd. In the ' gnod lii^le^ people ployed 
fti tbit rhf mioff gsnio ; bat tC wsa colled the gaoM of 
Toloiitinei, from th« bumble nune of the inTentor (!}, 
1ft eourt Aod city VdcnCinec were for looie time oil the 
r«fe, but Ibey tuddeoJy ceued efler the Duke de Cbe' 
■e bed killtd, io e'duci, » itetitlemoii who hod leot 
O Voteotine, iq thc«e vrordJi: — 

' Moae^icneor le Due de Cherreuae, 
L'eJr faux, I'loil |K>urri, le dent cTeaie/ *' 
Farther inftirmotioD concerning the French Va- 
line our foir correvpondeot will find, for the 
in the books nouied abovc^ and in one 
M oot been n^iiued, the Inter mMiairt., the 
ind4S to the loJit volume of whirh hm beeD to 
OOnelves o useful indicator. Having ^oaA thuf) 
mnch.we return to £nglfind,and boldly aitscrtt hut 
diir old love poetry is Inciter worth reading, and 
keeirijig in n)cn)oryf than all else that bos been 
•mid or ming upon the wibject, put to^^ether. We 

Siirt from the saint nnd the subject, with Ben 
onN/jo'ii view of both, an he has set forth in A 
TaU of a Tuh:— 

*' Blubup YnlonUoe 
Left ut exetnple to do d«eth uf cbftrity, 
To feed the buns;ry, clotL« the naked, vtoit 
The weak end tick, to ent'ertftin the poor, 
And IP re th** ilcnd a ChrittiAti furu'rni. 
Thc»e were the works of pitty be did pnvctiie, 
And btule uj tmitate,— not look for Jovcrit 
Or hwndiome im«g«a to pleeAe our EcnaeB." 
Tlivu* only remains to be eaid, that in Mn Bar- 
in|g-Gould'» Xtctf of the Baintt a fkzea different 

feired to then goi 

"It hee been n 
period the eoal n 
Hsmaton'a lettefi, 
in poihing forwud 
an unexplored pert 
broke ihnntgb the 
ckoUdmp, 1Vol&< 
tbeniiclves in e mi 
aparime^t*, in the 
were completely be^ 
not without tome di 
found that thk hod 
In the mo^ rrptrt n 
end pillart left at ; 
Remains of the too 
the baeket* used, bo 
touched. The anitt 
the Grit instance, fr 
in the couotry rcfei 
the aparry inenutat 
pittart. A difficull 
bftbtlity tb&b, in a c 
be^Ti covered with w 
Aettlers, the inhabit 
laboriom prnce«e ai 
recorded evidence,' 
akaoit certain Iha 
wrouRht at auy peri' 
ElizAbeth, (hat in. In 
fhall launch furth if 
preceding a^ei will 
to discover any njo 
means, ur tber necet 
it, until ho nhall bai 
bounds the turbulen 
eighth century. In 
18 one of those pnK 
either iime or ptraon 
was an i»gc when Iru 
civilization. Yet mi 
this dci*olate and dii 




, Ok 40W Itmmirs which were found in the 
itn ti Urn rtiat Ecd moAt ancient form. Mr, 

fitiMithtloM which he obtained, of a form 
j|^4«lir,»J of which he han given an engrfcTiTig, 

'ya hwH «ad doiiNgniinea baa&lt, ftboul four 
lilfi^ffiQM being hc&Tier and others lighter, 
"ivaidt. eridentlj with difficultj, ri>und it, 
lially in X flftt surface underneath^ agnioBt 
dlfi^^ that wai used to tighten the ^hnft of 
l>» (|ye >r» la hare been placed^ which shaft 
lli%t drifted withe of willow or hazel, or a 
rll^^tDde MiMd round the grooTe/ The ${otu 
HKllvtU a« the axe-headi and flint arrow- 
kilttwr vtapooa of flimilar materiaK preceded, 
tJi llttabt, the introduction of vMUdlic arms and 

»ttcio m\ij the excavations have been 
I Id be coal mines has no doubt arisen 
^ tlut those who have hitherto written 
li^rii viiTf not aware whiit elae they 
les, in thie case the catacombs 
y to coal, which ia not the 
bJf and other countries. There can be 
ible doubt, however, thiit the CimTiierii 
niight, nod no doubt would, where coal 
in connexion with their catAcombs, avail 
I of its advantages. Perhaps reu.Jer3 of 
'mthe county of Antrim wOl examine 
tlona, and make the results Icnown. 
r, as bearing on the point in iasuc, what 
final meaning' of Antrim i But as I 
1 up enough uf thu space of " N, k Q." 
cswion with reference to this subject, I 
my further remarkis thereon to a subee- 



m Like It," Act ii, sc. 7. — 

B that the very verj means do ehb>" 
'prettttions proposed for this verse seem 
itiafftCtoTjt OS they have no reference to 
lor of the eca and it« tides. At length 
tt iuggeats itself to me from the Mer- 
eitk^, iv. 1 : — 

lid the nuua flood bate his mual height." 
; siibatitutc " mains ^ for ** means," and 
I it SB an implied coniipari;;on of a 
tiaen's affluence to the " main Hood " or 

which yet ia reduced to an ebb by tlie 
ice of his wife, " the city woman," We 

the blfiher the flood, the lower is the 
S. T. P. 

>u Like It/* Act ii, sc 4.— 

ite«|j if I can : if ! cannot, I *ll mil against 

■bora of Egypt/* 

the precLse meaning to be attached to 
b of Jaques 1 Johnaon believed that 

"first-born of Egypt" referretl to the 
or great men of the world ; hut surely 
eoimected with the 6rst-bom of 

Egypt were thope of the plaj;rue^ and Jaqiiea'a 
allusion would refer rather to doomed or stricken 
men. Narea says, in his Glouaty^ that he knew 
CO other instance of the phrase. Have any of your 
readers ever met with it ? SpERlEJfD. 

** HAsn.ET,'^ Act i. sc. 3. — Mb, Beale's readinff 
(5"* S. iv. 182), *'Mo8t select and generous chufi 
in that," may be " true, natural, and grammati- 
cal," hut it secma to lack force and probability. 
There Jire many renderings of this passage, and yet 
I venture to think the true meaning is sufficiently 
simple. If we read, — 

" And they in Franca of the beat rank and station 
Are most select and generous, chief in that" 

—we can undereband that the French nobles were 
hivish both of pains and expen.5e, *' chief in that " 
particular of the habit, 

" Costly 04 thy punie can buy, 
But not expreu'd iu fancy ; rich, not gaudy," 

W. WaisTOif. 

Bnonuiis {b^^ S, iv, 223,)— This word seems to 
mean the covering of the lower part of the male 
person in that once well-known poem, The School- 
midttss^ by Shenstone, It oci'ura in the graphic 
desicrtptioD of the whipping inflicted on the idle 
boy by the schoohui stress with her birch-rod for 
neglecting his lesson : — 

" For, brandiflhing the rod, ahe doth begin 
To looM tkt Irogwu, the stripling'i Late delight/' 


Shakspeare Illustrations. — The Seven 

*' Into how many ngea is mans life divided 1 

*♦ Mttus life by the computation of Astrologeri, it 
divided into seaven ages : over every one of which, one 
of tbe seavcn planets is predominant : the lirst age is 
called infancie, which continueth the epace of seaven 
j^earei. And then the Mooae raigneth, as appeareth by 
the moyst const! tntions of childrea, agreeing weli with 
the influence of that planet. 

"The leoond kge named childhood, lasteth seaven 
yeares more, and endeth in the fourteenth tf our life. 
Over this age, Mercurie (which b the second sphere) 
ruloth ; for then cbiUrou are unconstaut, tractable, and 
Boon« enclined to tearne. 

" The third age endtireth eight yeareSr and is termed 
the at rippling age : It begin noth at the fourteenth years, 
and continueth until the end of the two and twentieth. 
During which time, governtth the planet Venus : For 
then wo are prone to tirorlijralit)^ gluttonie, drunkeu- 
De8ffe« lechery, and sundry kintJei of vicea. 

"*The fourth age contayneih twche yeares, till a man 
be foure and thirtie, and then is hi named a young man. 
Uf this age the Sunno is cblefe Lord : Now a man is 
wittie, well advised, magnanimouj, and commiog to 
know him self e. 

** The flft age ifl called mans age, and hnth sixe and 
I wen tie yeares for the continuance thereof, subject to 
Mars ; for now a man is stout, covetous, and worldly. 

'*Tbe Bixt aj^e hath fonrteene yeares, thnt is, from 
three-score, till three-icore and fuurleen. This nge is 
termed Viridls senectus, that is, flourishing olde agOj 



[S* S. V, Fi» 


of which Japit^r is roaBtcr, a plimet significant of equity, 
temperance and religion. 

" The Bcaventh aud liwt (hy order) of theae ag** con- 
tiaaeth the residue of a maiu life. Thii Agt, hy the 
meanea of that yl&tiet i^atarne, i»hich is melanchohck 
and most sloir of all uth«r» cauaeth man to be drooping, 
decrepit, forward ; eold and luehiricbolick."— Vanirban'i 
DireciiOJU for UealiAf Hth cd., 1617 (first published 

*' A humane body in itJ TariKtion and §arcreft«e, may 
be HiQiirucd to the nature <jf the 7. planetts, viz. mllkie 
enfancie to Luna, the pratTing Schoole age to Mercury, 
the juTcnall flowrinjj iMay time to Vena*; the flori*bing 
and re«plendent middle age to S?ol ; the Tirile and dan- 
ing manhood to Mars ; the better tempered and adrized 
governing to Jupiter ; the highcBt loule flyins, and de* 
crepjt body Diovein^, to Satumc"— Done'* Pultfdoron, 
probably putliahed early in the wTenteenth century. 

Falstaff OS Honour. — There is a curious 
paraliclisni in Guzman dPAlfarackt: — 

" Here (Gmman) thou tholt see what a kinde thinR 
Honour is : It ia the sonne of Nothing ; the Child tlirtt 
knowes neither father, nor mother; the Earth's tff- 
aprioic, being raised out of the d«Ht thereof ; it i« a fraile 
Vetsell full of crackea, of flawea and of holes, uncupable 
of containing any thing in it that is of any niomeBt or 
worth* Favour hath endeavoured to mend thi* broken 
Backet, and to j^top the Leakea thereof with clonts and 
with rappee ; and putting thereunto the rope of priTste 
interest, thej n«>w draw up water with it, and it scorned 
to be very beneficiall and prolitable unto them. 

*• Why shouldiit thou keep a stlrre, and trouble thy- 
self for that, which to-morrow is to bo no mt^re, and 
when it is at the moat U of no lone continuance ] What 
doett thou« or any else know, what ia become of the 
Mayor demo to King Don Pelajo, or of the Chtvnibcr- 
laine to Conde Feruan Goncales ! They had honour, 
and they held it, but neither of them, nor that, is any 
memory remaining. So ehalt thou the next day be fur 
gotten, as if thou h&dst never beene at alL" — Aleman's 
Ousman d'AlJaracke, translated by Mabbe, 1623. 

" CttAiRBotrsTE . , * PoTSSON," Alts Welly i. 3,— 
Manyyeara ago your old and valued correspondent 
Mr. JBenj. East cotjtrihtited an interesting illus- 
tmtioQ of this pa.'isage, Vuughan, however, cites 
im other proverb on the subject : — 

'* He that loves yong fleah and old fish, loves contrary 
to reason— 

• Qui Teat jeune chair «t vi«ix poii«oa 
Se troue repugner a raison.' " 

JMrectioMfx^r UtallK 1«J17- 

" Accommodated," 2 Mm%. JF., iii. 2.— 

**CH. Comment entendeivous ce rnota'accoinnioder? 

^* PkU. J'ay voulu dire que chactin s'en sert li sa 
potle. Or scachez que cc mot s'accommodcr est aujour- 
d'huy accr>romodc a toutes choses, 

" Cd. Voila bien de« nouvelles. Mais comment T 

** PkiL On dit..,9'accomraoder des habits de quelcun : 
6*accutnmoder du chevnl de quelcun, a'accoinmoder de la 
femme dc quelcun : a i]uoy il ne faut point d'expoai- 

'* Cd. A ce que je vcy, U y a heaacoup de nouvelles 
foiiiea d'accommodations. 

* Tbft original hu " el hijo de nadie, que se leirantiS 
dal polvo de la tierra eiendo vasija ouebradiKa^ llenn de 
agujeoxw^ rota sin capaxidad que en ella cupiera cosa de 
algun momentOt" &c., ed. Amberes, 17 3G. 

** Phil. Encores y en a-t-il une outre ceste-ci : 
dit, 11 I'a bien accommode, en parlantd'un 
aura bien batu,'' &«.— Eatieune, Devx 
iVoMMav Lanffogi Frangou, Aiivers, 1583. 


"Kijte": "Kte": "Swine."— The*«^ &■ 
have already been much discussed, bu 
appears to me, without arriviaj; at a ri^^*^ *■ 
elusion (see " N. & Q.," 4*'» S, xL M51 M 
ing from further reference to h»s .xmSj^, 
been s.iid about them, it is my aim simply 'txy 
that kinc and sicinc are but modified forni!^ < 
obsolete plural in en of ctyw and 40w. Th*? 
belong to the northern jMirts of Britain : t 
qnLre, therefore, to be analyzed with s| 
enee to the dialectal peculiarities \ 
prevftil. One of theae is that the r 
and others besides, of the south of 1 ^ 
flattened and attenuated into at, i, aod 
Scotchwoman^ being remonstmted witli 
landlady on account of a too obstreperous 
of animal spirits, the result of indulgence " 
of another kind, retorted, ** I pte my ictt 
way), and what ia't to you?" The wo; 
cloth J proof J and ifpoon become haithf clni 
and gpeeu in Scottish. In the Lancashire 
pound is pronounced as jQatml It ia hence 
that coiecn^ by contraction kowUf would be 
narily pronounced as kain or hinc. Again, 
Old English r*/, simihirly investigated, witt 
to be simply an abbreviation of kinc. A peci 
of the Scotch diukct ia the suppreasion 
liquids, If nif n, at the end of words. Th 
have /ta', tca\ fracy and upo'j for the wo 
waU^frovij and npon. As an instunce di 
the point, we find in Eurns's Poe:ins (" To 
Simpson— Postscript ") " stick and Mowtj' ii 
of " stick and stone." Kye or cy, therefore, t 
of being a plural of cu by vowel chanjg^, ia 
a colloquial contraction of kinc 

To come to the word mirine, the regular 
iii mow is soiccii. To account for the form 
a.H easily chnnged into twine as oowen into it 
have the fsict that in numy languages o-soa 
the middle of a word, had a tendency to de 
an intercalary iv before or after them. Im 
Cockney dialect, gwyne representa the word 
This tendency is remarkable in the Fi 
diphthong or, the words hon «wV, for 
bcmg flo sounded its to admit of being tro' 
into "Bob swore." But independently 
traneous instances, we find palpable evidence 
such a difdectal peculiarity in the west of 
land, possibly through a Danish influence, 
hoif is pronounced as hwoy. In the song 
"Oeorge RidWs Oven"' (5^ S. ii, 112), we 
the words go, pM, and coat represented by 
pwoot, and ewoat. Again, the Old English ' 
austcr (sister) occurs in the A.-S. Chron,t ^^^ 




'^m rnatt^ These coosidenitlonB teem 
nh OBiiifliiB eridence that sot^en would 
btpaj-Tffl.Tl ivi swovreiif and that tficinc, 
Hial plural of *ow, slinhtly 
fi that gieitic cannot l»e 
««c; OQ iwjcoant of the latter term 
ttlmi to a fenmle pig, the 
r W^ lo the whole porcine gently is 
^^^ fi*t"t that gcventl woftlH originftlly 
nralimng Lo sex hnvf aince been used 
Wnw. The word child strictly implie'* 
^utf b ftiU a%ed in that w^oso in the 
«* af En^hind ; yet it h now a generic 
flflynag af etther sex. So «^if/ pwpetly 
Ittb^aod was used in that Hera^ not 
W eop <»f AtiMilrii»«><lj^ but even of a 
id cock Entjfish Afcidcncr^ 

172); ypf , ''is now synonymoUR 

««i»id!. The words Idnf^ ^j/e, and x urine. 
V*, fiiwreptible of a rational explanation 
Dca to the tinaea and roj^ions in which 
^«d, and need oot be regiirded as mys- 
to hit ttccounted for by Imving recourse 
la ajBumptiozuL W. B. 

lfW3K8«re, according to Bailey, "/'tfr^<t<r-», 

htmm$ntarirTMSy holding that the gates 

ITD ihut till the resurrection." Thi« 

jiH^nn t4» hnve prevailed amongst ««>iiiti 

ifter the Refonnatiou, hut not 

1 at Wrexham, North Wales, 

le lupnumentftl design of the hist Judg- 

mbiliac. The tomb is represented sis 

iiece«» :ind the beautiful figure of its 

^rs clothed, wonderfully expressod. 

de Valois, Duchess of Alen<:on, after- 

in of Navarre, a woman of eminent 

' *■ " Ivin and of the Reformation, 

1 pon this subject. Marguerite 

u' luo^o who discoursed to her of 

if the happiness of heaven, "All that 

lie, but we rauat continue a long time 

the earth before we come to the enjoy- 

>piDe«sft/^ In her published writings, 

be end of October, 154f>, less than two 

es her death, she explicitly aRKerts the 

^^the fiotiL^ of the good ioimediately 

^pd in confirmation of it quote!? niir 

TO the repentant thief: "To-dnyshalt 

me in paradise "^ — a much more 

more spiritual doctrine timn the 

J. B. P. 

OF John Sttart Mill.— In 
tobiogrjiphy of this great man, I 
^ruek with the following pttssoge 
ft note of it " : — 
n ifhis wife ■ deftth) I b&ve lougUt ntch ftlle- 

* »rtuhr in loate MSB. 

TLBtioo BM rtiy etnte admitted of, hjf tlu mode of life whirh 
meat tnabUd me to fed hfv ftitl near me. I bought « 
cottOLjite III cIoj« M ]fOsMble to the plaoe where site i« 
borledf and there her Juuj^hter (luy felloW'Sufierer ati4 
now my chief comfort) nod I live conitAntly during a 
irreat jvortion of the year. J/v object* i« life are lolely 
ihoH ^rhirh wrrt fitrt ; vif/ jmrsaU and ocrtipniiom tkoxe 
i)», ir/<t>A skf iharcd or ti/itipathUrd, and teh'ch arit * n* 
d\nuUtU\f attocioted with kfr. Hrr memory i« to me a 
rcligion/iknd ktr approhatinn ths jifandard htf vhkk^ iunt^ 
msnf Hft a-f >'^ doc4 ail u>ortkmas, I endenwur to f'^ptlaU 
viy iiftT 

With this pfunage J. S. Mill closed the first 
part of hi* work in 1861, not taking it up agaia 
for nine years : and we may therefore regard it as 
a ji^roration, and the warmest expression of his 
feelings. I have italicized the most striking 
clauses in the quotation, becaiu»e they would be 
Eilmoat aa applicable in the mouth of a Christian 
sjicaking of Christ, us they were in the mouth of 
Mill speaking of Mn, Taylor. And yet this man, 
whose mind is amongst the keenest this century 
has produced, failed to perceive that he had fallen, 
into thiit position which he atfected to despise. 
jUthongh he had deliberately iset a^ide the adora- 
tion of God, yet, being a man, he must obtain 
some objective rule of Hfe ; and this he fouml in 
the approbation of the admirable lady whom he 
m irriea. W« H. 

Uittfield Hatb Durham. 

" Afternoos Tea." — In a Inte number of 
(%nnlter/i Journal (Nov. 20, IS75) it is asserted 
that "afternoon tea is a product of advanced civi^ 
lizjition " : this little meal being generally sup- 
po»«od to have first corae into vogue during the 
hist decadfi or so. Like many other presumed 
novelties, however, it is merely the reviviU of a 
custom of the last century. Dr. Alexander Car- 
lyle, in his Avtohioffrnphy, p. 43-1, describing the 
fashionable mode of living at Harrogate, in 1763, 
writf^s : — 

*' The ladies gave iiftcmoon'i tea and coffee in their 
turns, which, comlnsf but once in four or At© weekj, 
jimoanted to a tri^/' 

H. A, Kennedy. 

Junior United Service Club. 

Thf, SorTHEHsr Crobs. — A note on the late 
Mr, R. S. Hawker'H Qtu^^st of Ike Sangraa!^ p. ^J2, 
informs us that th**ro ia an ancient legend to the 
effect that the star which guided the wise men to 
the infant Saviour wiu* not a singh" «tar, but the 
five stars which make up the Southern Cross. 
Thei*e stars, it is held, were miraculously created 
on that occasion. This is pretty as a legend, but 
I gather from some expressions in the note that 
some persons are inclined to petrifjr the poetry 
thereof into a phy&ical fact. Will aome one, 
learned in the history of astronomy, tell us when 
the Southern Cross h first mentioned? 1 have a 
strong impression that we have records of it far 
earlier thaa the birth of our Loni. Glis. 



[5*^' S. V. Fkil 1», 

Electric Telegraph Invented in 1787» — 
Arthur Young {T'rarrU in France^ &e., pp. 65-VS^, 
editions 1792-94) sUtoa tlmt on Oct. 15, 1787, he 
saw at a mechanician's, M. Lomond, at Paris, ii 
room with a c^lindric electric lauchini* and pith- 
ball electrometer. A wire connected tiiis appa- 
ratus with Si siiiaiLir one in a distant apartment. 
Two or three written words given to inonsieiir ia 
the first room caused him to set hia electrometer 
in motion, which made the other one to correitpoiid 
theret^j. In this second room madrtmc read the 
letters (a, d, c) from the pith-hall motions there. 
Thus A. Young says they ** have invented an alpha- 
bet of motions useful for besieged cities' communi- 
cating outside/' &c. But Volta sttbitd cbunged 
motor, though not the principle. 

S. M. Drach. 

Upper BBm&btiry Street. 

Thk Conjugal State.— The followino: lioeH, 
Baid to be on a tombstone in the churchyard at 
Croydon, are perhaps worthy of a corner in '* N. 
& Q/' :- 

'* They vrtre so ane. it ncTer coald be said 
WLicb of them rul'dj or which of them obey'd ; 
He rul'd because her wish was to obcj, 
And she, Ly obejing* ml'd na well 03 he : 
There never waa between them a dinputOt 
8ave wliich the other^B will should execute*" 

E. H. A. 

How JItths Arise. — A few weeks ago a lady 
told me in all seriousness that the Prince of Wides 
bad bought from ^Ir. Plimpton his patent for 
roller skates, and that threepence out of every 
sixpence paid at the rinka for the use of skates 
went to the Prince. The story was too absurd for 
me to give it a moment's credence, and I could 
only wonder how it hud found its way into people's 
mouths. This morning (Dec. IS), however, 1 found 
a very probable solution of the difficulty in the 
advertisement columns of the iJaily News, for 
there, in an advertisement of a skating-rink com- 
pany in the process of fonnation^ I read the follow- 
ing : — 

" It ii iiiiendcd to uie the * Plimpton * patent skate, 
under an agreement entered into vrith Messrs. Prince, of 
Prince's Club, who are identified with, and hold an intereat 
ia, the patent." 

The name "Prince" had graduaDy and uncon- 
aciously been turned into " the Prince of Wales" ! 

F. Chance. 
Sydenham HLll. 

Satirical Hkralduy.— The folio wingr piece of 
satirical hemldry occurs on the last pge of Murch- 
mont Needham's Short Bistmy of the English 
B&hdlion^ cmnjdekd in Verse, 4to,, 1C61 :— 

" The Coiit of Arros of Sir John Preabytor, He 
bearcth parte per t>ale indented, God's glory and hi» 
own mter««t : over all pleaauro, honour, profit counter- 
changed : eTHBigiitd with en Helmet of Igjiomtjce, upend 
with coufi^deDcCj befitting bis degree^ Mantled with 

Gulei 9i>di Tyranny^ doubled with Hy;K»cra«ie. 
wreath of Pride and CoTetousnea?*!. For ha 
a Biniater hand boldiTig up a Solemn League vai 
nnnt reTerst and torn. In a Scrolo underneath! 
shieM these worda for hia mcitto, Aut ho€ f»«f A 

" Tbia Coat of Armour is durall'd with auotheft- 
piecc», akpiifying thereby hit faur matches. 

'* The nrat is of the Family of Amsterduin. She 
for her amiu, in a field of Toleration, three Jewet] 
prf>per, with as many blew caps on them. 

" The second ia the house of Oeoeva. She be«r* I 
Arma. in a field of Separation^ marginal Notes 
Bible falfe quoted. 

" The third is of the Conntrey of New Engl 
beara for her Arms a Pricktar'd Preach man 
upon a Pulpit proper holding forth a 80! 

*' The fourtb and la«t is of ScotJand. She beaisl 
Escutcbion the field of Bebellion charged with Al 

A Strakok CoiNciDEyCE. — A country 
a notoriously bad character^ had a dispute 1 
money matters with the tax-collector of 
trict, who soon afterwards disappeared, 
strong suspicion arose that the priest had 
dcred the man. About the same time a 
executed for highway robbery, and his bodj] 
gibbeted in chains by the roadside, as 
(1650) the custom. The friends of the hij 
man ciune one night and took his body d 
that they might bury it ; but, being disti 
they threw the body into a pond near the 
residence. Shortly ftfter, some men io _ 
the pond for fish brought up the body in tbdri 
and it %va8 immediately said to be the body 
tiix-collector,and the finger of 8Ui*pieion was 
at the priesit, who was arrestetij tried, 
demned. He most solemnly protested httf 
cence ; but, when the day of oxecutton arri 
admitted that he hiid murdered the missin 
" But, nevertheless," sjiid he, " I am unjust 
denmed, for the tax-coUectofs body, with 
hia dog, still lies buried in my garden, v 
killed them both." Search was made, whenl 
bodiej»of the man and dog were found in the 
described ; and inquiries brought to light the 
of the body found in the pond, GiUes M 
born at Anglers, 1613, was engaged as cou; 
the above curious trial Fuedk. Ru 

The Weather.— Jan. 22 is the Feost of 
Vincent and Anastasius : — 

" Ke member in St. Vincen^t'a day 
If the aun hifi beams display, 
'Tis H token, bright and clear, 
That you will bare a prosperous year/ 

Saturday, Jan. 22, was a fin© winter day : i« 
hope it will fulfil the prediction to all the r( 
of " N, & Q." J. 

Romanesque,— We are indebted to the 
William Gmm, of Caius CoUege, CauJ 





" ■■ * ^he (Origin and Injin- 

UtT the introduction of 
...^ ...,.^aage. See Palmers 
Yarmouth, iii 358. Axon, 


corrMpondenta detinng information 
of otilj priTftte itiierefli, to ivffix their 
to their queriet, in order that the 
^ to them dirocL] 

Pai>br Gio. Battista Perubchi 

CouPAGJ^iA Dt GiEsv was the 

ItaJian work entitled Informatione 

tto iid gran JRl di M(^ori Breacia, 

o„ in 71 pp. 

:^a •'• Ti«-^>nibte uDcertaintT as to tLc time of 

i >f Muhaniinul kdtim Himli'i Shuh, 

1 GenemI Brigga nya that bo wns 

m^rx^.A aboot A.D. 1570. and supposes tlmt he 

|161S; M. Mohl. heweTer, places his blrtb in 

mud thmlu tb«.t he revieed his work at least 

0(823. Sir Henry Elliot itatea these difTerencdf), 

% ele^npd op the doahV—Calalofjii^e *if U\stori- 

<{ Pa-nan, t« tkt L)hrari/ ofth^ Roval 

;:J, hy W. H. Morley. M.R.A.IJ, ; 

r .1- 209. by Sir U. Elliot, edited by 

\iih3X Duirton. StAff College, Sandhurst. 

^ian words, Firiahta and Hindu Sbiih, 
missionary and Hindu king, fonulnK no 
Mahummad KiUim^s proper name, mij^ht 
Kjuired dates be obt,iined by inquiry at 
br information regiirding the life and 
the eiirly Indian historian, Gio. Battist^i 

t XKir Exeter. 

I Family. — Are any of this name now 
^ngljind who can afford mo information 
I the parentage of Henry, Robert, and 
take, brothers, or near relatives, who 
I to New England about 163( i-l I Henry 
(Lyuii, Mass., but afterwards removed to 
L and 8abse<juently to Newtown, Long 
jii^re he died in the latter part of the 
|f, leaving three children, Robert was of 
Irn, near Boston, Mass. He married, in 
Hzjibeth (Fones) Wintbrop, dau^^hter of 
Fonea, of London, and widow of Henry, 
[Governor John Winthrop ; vfA% lieiitonimt 
I Daniel Patrick, and a<!companied him 
\f John Underbill on their removal from 
Id Stamford and Green with, Conn,, in 
pohias also accompanied Capt. Patrick, 
I the latter's death married his widow, and 
to Flushing, LJ. 

jra* a family of the name living at or 
prich, in Norfolk county, in the e4^rly part 
tenteenth century, and another at Stafford, 
tdshire. Where cm I procure pedigrees 
ies ? Was Christopher Feakc, the 

Analxiptist preacher, time of Cromwell, of thla 
ftuuily \ At the time of his arrest and impri'^on- 
ment by Cromweirs orders, 1G53, he had a wife 
and eight chUdren. What were their nsinieal 
Were Sminiel and John Feake, the fonuer a 
director of the East India Comp:iny,and the latter 
for several yeare Governor of Bengal, descendants 
of Christopher ] J. J. Lattinu. 

64, Madiflon Arenne, New York, U.S.A. 

Sm Pkter Lklt.— In a work which has acci- 
dentally fallen under my notice, entitled ii/<j mid 
Writings of Comtaniint lihodoMuahe^ there is a 
portrait of this well-known physictaD» which is 
said to be after an original of Sir Peter Lely. The 
learned doctor is represented in the robes of an 
order of knighthood, and with the insignia of 
royalty. What proof is there ihat Sir Peter ever 
painted such a portrait ? The inteirnal evidence is 
against such being the fact. iJr. Ehodocanak© 
came to England to earn his livelihood aa honestly 
as possible, and is not likely to have subjected 
himself to the imjiutntion of being a charlatan or 
builbon. Had lie ever claimed the title of 
** imperial higbnes.?/' or appeared in such a 
masquerade costume, surely we should have heard 
of these pretensions through the diarists of that 
period. The portrait appears to me to bear every 
evidence of imposture, the intention, no doubt, 
being to transform the poor alcheralit of Lely's 
time into a personage of important, P. K. A, 

CoRoKATioK Copies of the "Sun" News- 
paper,— I have in my possession copies of these, 
printed in gold, first and second editions, dated 
respectively June 28 and July 6, 1838, containing 
reports of the ceremonial observed on the octvision 
of her Majesty's coronation. The price of the 
latter edition was I*., at which also the former, 
is-sued on the evening of the coronation, was sold 
to fiubscrihera only, the immense expense incurred 
in its production having necessitated an increased 
charge to non-subscribers. Can any reader of 
" N. & Q." inform me as to this charge, which 
does not appear upon the [Kiper itself, the pub- 
lishers assuming that " the public, who will be 
desirous to possesa such an extmordinnry specimen 
of the art of printing, will be willing to pay the 
Bum which we shall find it necessary to demand to 
cover our expense " \ W. Chapmak. 

WaTerley House, Kingaton. 

Sir Philip Cocrtenat, born in 14f>4, and 
ancestor of the present Earl of Devon, married 
Elizabeth, daughter of Walter Lord Hungerford, 
by which marriage he acquired MoUand, in Devon- 

His Bocond son, Sir Philip Courtenay, had 
I^Iolland for his portion, and married the daughter 
of Robert Hingeston (see Collinses Peerage^ vol. vi. 
p. 471). He was the continuator of the Molland 



[5*» B. V. Fe». 

blanch of the fjiruily, the male line of whit^h failed 
with John Courtenay, Esq., of Mollaad, who died 
in 1732, leaTing i\ sister aod heir, who married 
William Paaton, Esq. (see Burke's Pteragf, under 


I should be obliged if any coirespondent would 
give me the continuation of the family from the 
aforesaid Sir Philip to the ubove-nunied John 
Courtenay, C. J. E. 

Khedive. — One hears just now so much of the 
Khedive of Egypt that it is, I hope, no unpardon- 
able curiosity to inquire what is the preciije mean- 
ing of the title Khedive, and from whence it is 
derived. T* 

Gladiatoria Herba.— What herb b this ? I 
should be much obliged by references to classical 
writers naTi;in«iT it. I>. F. 


Fountains running W?t«e. — "This is no 
Grecian fable of fountains running wine."— Mjicau- 
lay. Lays of Ancimi Romc^ " Virginia.** Where, 
in Homer or elsewhere, is there reference to such 
fountains ? D. F. 

Which is the Laroej^t Park in Exglaxd ?— 
Until the other dny I had always been told that 
the largest park in Enghmd was that surrounding 
Grita$thori>e Castle, Lmcoloshire, the seat of the 
Baroness Willoughby de Ere^by. But I have now 
been told (on what seetued to be reliable autho- 
rity) that Eustwell Park, Kent, is a little larger 
than Grimsthorpe Park. I am unable to give the 
acreage of either park ; but^ probably, some cor- 
respondent of " N. & Q." cau do no. 


Jonas B. pHiLLiPa.— This gentleman, who was 
an eminent lawyer in New York, was author of 
Camilhia, and other plays, produeed on the Ameri- 
can stage more thikO forty year§ ago. I believe 
Mr. Phillips was Assistant District Attorney of 
New York in 1864. Is he still living ? If not, 
what is the date of his death ? R. I. 

B. UroiiNSEy.— Several of the tales of this 
Norwegian author have been translated into 
English. Is Mr. Bjornseo a Lutheran clergyman, 
and is he resident ia Norway \ K. Inolis. 

Triebt (Antonics), Bishop of Ghent.— Any 
information rehiting to the pabllc and family 
history of this prelate would be very aocejituhle to 

A. M. 

An Old Violin.— I possess a violin with the 
following inscription inside, opposite the left sound 
hole : "Nicolaiis Amatus Crenionien Hieronimy 
fill Antoni, 1709." Can any of your readers 
give me any information about this artist ? 

H. T. Kees. 

CnnisTornER Ussher, Archdeacox oy< 
MAGH. — This divine, who was lik*«^' 
King-of-Arms, wjls unde of the oel 
bishop Ussber, and died, without i?^- _ 
1597. The date of hi a appointment to the; 
deaconn^ of Armagh baa not been given by 
in his Fasti Etcksltr IHUmua, iii, 45, 
the Messrs. Cooper in their A tfumi- C<tn 
ii. 225. Can any reader of " N. & Q/ 
ascertain it 1 

Petrarch, &c.— I have a copy of the 
CoTiimedia, with the commentivry of Loi 
published in five volumes at Padua, in 
"Dalla tipografia delk Minerva." Tl te- 
at the end of their preface, hint at c*' 
form, &c., of Petrarch, Ariosto, and i 
these, or any one of them, ever pubLu^lied I 

W. B 


Rev. R. Gibson. — Can any of your 
form me where the Rev, Richard Gibson, oni 
copulian minister, who was settled i 
on Richmond L^land in 1C37, and 
preached in Saco and Portsmouth, and ' 
to England about the btter date, took 
and if any of his corrcs[K>ndence or 
that church are in existence ? Robert Ti 
Es(i., of Plymouth, was the owner of the 
anci surrounding land, S. P. Ma' 

Heraldic. — What are the arras onci 
an}^ belonging to the following crest 1 It I 
used for three generations by a Smith, 
wreath arg. and gu. a dexter arm vambi 
em bo wed, holding u broken sword, tUl ppr. 
" Honestum quod est decet." Also I 
genealogy of 8ir Thomas Richardson, Lord 
Justtce to Charles 11.^ and his relationship 
the Richardson s of Ferring, Sussex, The 
are similar— Sable on a chief arg. three Uodb' 
erased of the field. 

" ABBERj>."^What is the meaning < 
word I It is applied to some low-lyin 
skirting a Bmall tributary of the river 
The earliest use of the mime that I have 
an inventor}' of the possessions of the Ab 
Stanley, drawn up at the time of its disso' 
It is there spelled AhbartL Can It meai 
bord " (de la rive) ? W. C 

Orrery. — ^Where can a good orrery or 
tarium be seen ? Cti 

Epitaph ox a Daitghter op Thosias, 
Earl of Ormonde. — Some time ago t 
given, in the TrunMiction* of one of the Enj 
arcbreologi cnl societies, the epitaph on the 
of a daughter of Thomsis, seventh Earl of Orm< 
A reference to the volume, or a copy of the 




rilh »iioCe <f( it« locality, is de'^irt-d. The 
the wirl were mamed to BuUeD, 
fV it*spectively. 


"Wberrici fiiU of produce pass 
—Thri/i, by Smile*, p. 26. In 
L'tiitod Kingdom is this word 
a land carriage ? W. 8. J. 

— Tn th© Doiuenae poetnr in 

■\ **Jftbbc*rw*ocky," there 
< German poetry. It was 
M the t! me in one of the tniigiiv'.ines, 
IMi ten ine where to find it 1 Ashasti. 

ftCi«>rxAiir LovGEVTTT.— Mr. C. J. V^h 

f<€fyuiration of OrfM Yarmonih^ vol. ii. 

coitt»ms uw account of a Indy, Jane 

tJ. ** wIki attained the extraordinary age of 

are informed that she %viis bom 

1 May 26, 181G, Have the docu- 

the proof of this extraordiniiTy 

er been carefolly examined \ 


:n Alex. Oobdok. — Can any 
\*." favour me with a copy of tht? 
I I ihe monument, at Waterloo, to 

f% #rtficer I Brxchin'. 

^Kt^r.T IK HKHALnRY,— Does the form 
It descend, or is it personal f For exiimplej 

>f a baronet carry n baronet's 
r son of a baron a baron'a, 

liie helmet of :in esquire ? 

HowK AVD rnE Pexxs. — I want to know 
in which Major-Grenend Hon. Richurd 
Pcnn Curzon Howe (who succeeded lately 
Utle of Karl Howe, on the death of his 
George Ausns^tua, second earl) is related 
lebnit<^d VV'iliiani Penn, of Penn^vlvanin. 

R, N. J. 

vane I'lJi > 

B. K. S. 

(5» S. iiL 407 ; W. 13(> ; r, 69.) 

who nmde the inquiry in **N.& Q." 

g the oonoexion between tlie O'Neills of 
lid Spain, and the parent ttock of Tyrone, 
hank Petru* and Mr. Bonapartk-Wyse 
wortcfi^' in furwurding replies. I repret, 
to say that from neither of the coiiimuni- 
m I clearly trace the lino of descent, 
iply sent by Petrcs does not ^nve anv 
r» by which I couJd with safety attach 
Ma be names to any of the recognized 

br.inch*^^ of the fanjiily, J*nd a letter which I for- 
warded him throu;fh the editor, asking for such, 
was returned by the Post Office, having failed to 
Tench him. 

pKTars 8Ay« that he holds a copy of a Eml D*- 
Epaeho (letter of nobility) given \jo a gentleionn 
nacneii John O'Neill, living at I^Iallorca, in *Spaia. 
which fchow« that he is the male represenlutive of 
the hou«;e of the O'Neills of Tyrone. The genea- 
logy in this document he says is ** traced up to one 
Terence, brother to one John O'NeiU/' who is 
stated to have died in Spain without iaaue, after 
having; been received by the king with ;^eat dis- 
tinction ; and he makes the inquiry, "Who is thi£- 
John O'Neill and his brother Terence ] Can thejr 
be sons of the jfreut Hu;;h 1 " 

BIr. BoKAJ'ARTK-Wy.^E is acquainted with this 
genealo^ry, and snvs it " regards exclusively John 
(Shane) O'Netll, thirtl son of Hugh O'Neill, Karl 
of Tyrone," &c. But to do so it should l>e clearly 
hhown that John had a brother named Terence or 
Turla^'h. I have looked over some authorifJca be- 
sides those given, and have failed to find any such 
name amongst the Bona of the Earl, legitimate or 
illegitimate. The five le^timate sons were named 
Hugh, Henry, John, Bnon, and Con. Only one 
inegitimate son is mentioned, and he was another 
Con. It therefore appenrs vcrj' doubtful that this 
letter of nobility haa any reference to the third 
son of the Earl, 

I think Mr. Bonapartb-Wtsb has been misled 
by a paper in the Journal of the Kilkenny ArchrFO^ 
logical tSodety for April, 18G6, wTitten by the 
respected M. de k Ponce, of Toure, wlilch asaumea 
that Earl Hugh had two natural sona, viz., " Tur- 
lotigh Bnisilagh, (I the comma) O'Neill's son," and 
Con. The authorities given for the assumption 
are Fynea Moryson and the *4 nnak of ilu Four 
Mitxten^ p. 029, recti' C5J>. On referring to them, 
I find that the hitter means only a note by the 
erlitor, and that the former (Moryaon) ia the rerd 
authority. Giving an account of the Earl's army 
in horae and foot, he saya, **Turlofjh Bnusirs sons, 
GO '' (horse). Again, " Turlogh Brasil's sons, 2(10 " 
(foot). These words the note in the Four Mtutertj 
under heading ** Forces of O'Neill in 16(M>/' gives, 
in the first inatance, as "Torlogh Bra^ilagh 
O'KeUr.H son," and, in second, "Torlogb Bnwdagh's 
aons." But, in f:ict, neither authority would war- 
rant the constmction put upon it by M. de la 
Ponce, who evidently wa« led astray by the note 
in the Four Masl^rtt M any one writing in a 
foreign laDguage niipht easily he. I may remafk 
here that Turlagh Bnusilagh was not the boBe son 
of the Earl, but the legitimate son of Felim Caech, 
the eldest mn of Con Baccagh, Lord of Cinel Eog- 
hajn, and firet Earl of Tyrone, 

With respect to Don Felix, I would be glad to 
know if hU pedigree is traced up to Terence, the 
brother of John, and through what link?. At- 



[5*" 8. V. ¥wb; 


taching him to the Fews brancli, m Mr. Bon'A- 
FARTe-\Vy6e suggests, might be done, but only 
on verj' clear proow. There w a descent given in 
O'Donovan's Foxir Miultrs of this bmncb showing 
thut Art, Pecond son of Sir Turlagh of the Feivs^ 
hud a son named Turlagh, who married And died, 
apparently in Ireland, intestate, after whose death 
his Bon and heir Arthur took out letters of ad- 
piinistration, and entered into posjiession of his 
Droperty. Arthur married, and had two sons: (1) 
WeaJ and (2) Owen. Of the latter, no i«sue is 
given, but Neal hud a son who was living in 1768. 
In this descent there is scarce any roonij iis I read 
it, for attaching Don Felix to Art, second son of 
Turlagh of the Fews, 

In the Gc7itlttfMn\ Magazine for 1791 there h 
noted the death, at Madrid, of Don Carlos Felix 
O'Neill, aged 1 H\ He waa held in great estima- 
tion by the Spanish king, was a lieut.-geneml, 
and Governor of the Havannah. He is stated, in 
the obituary notice, to have been a son of Sir 
Neal O'Neill,, who tlied of wounds received at the 
Boync, &c. But, if a son of hia at all, he could 
only have been an illegitimate one, m Sir Neal 
left no male issue, and was succeeded in his title 
by hl:^ brother DanieL Could the Don Felix of 
the Archbishop's memoir, and the above Don 
Carlos Felix, be identical/ 

I regret that neither of the replies alludes to the 
family ennobled under the title of Mart^uis de la 
GMuija, and which still exists in Spain. I am 
very deairous to learn its descent, whether from 
Hugh, the illegitinaate (?) son of John, tbird son 
of the Earl, who was skin at St» Flew in 1641, or 
from Major-Gencral Hugh, of Clonmel and 
Limerick celebrity, or from whom else. 

As to the statement that the O'Neills of Fmnce 
have " very serious grounds to claim their descent 
from Hugb, Earl of Tyrone/' I would beg to re- 
mark that, unleas the grounds relied on are dif- 
ferent from those put forward by M. de la Ponce 
in April, 186fi, they cannot be looked upon us 
satisfactory-, the late Mr, Pinkerton having shown 
their value in the Journal of the Kilkcnjvj Ardi(ro- 
lo^ical Socidif for April, 1867, 

Of the Portuguese family I was not aware till I 
saw the comraunieation of Petrus, and I would 
gl&dly learn the particuhira of its descent, as 
where a copy of the Eml Desjxicho and memoir 
by Archbishop MacMabon could he seen. 

I fully agree with Mit. Bonaparte-Wyse that 
the '* ©aaential point" for all the members of a 
femily to establish h that they are '' scions of the 
true, recognized, and authentic stock/' But to do 
this, not only must their own descent from Patrick, 
Hugh, or John be clearly sho'WTi, but also that of 
Patrick, Hugh, or John themselves from the 
parent stock. Tm Ecw?haix\ 

'"Coming throctgh the rte" (5*** S. 
116*) — Mr, Black's account of the origin 
aong may aeem irreconcilable with mine, 1 
only because his authority, Stenhouse, yn 
the informiition which I have supplei 
Stenhouse knew the original song well i 
but concealed it under the title of *' the ft 
He Siiys : — 

"The words ami inasic of this song, be^nnn' 
a boiJy meet a body,' arc parodied from the I 
which WRS pubHfihed hb » tingle-sheet sotig bcfoi 
copied into the Mvaenm.*' 

He leaves his readers to find out that til 
set " was the English song, ** If a body 
body," that it came from a London pantoi 
December, 1795, and that the " ptirodj 
appeared in vol. v. of Johnson's t^cots I 
Muacum in 1797. Stenhouse then goes on 

*'Mr. John WatleD, musician ftnd onusic-wl 
merly in Edinburgh, note in London, afterwvrdi 
the firet atraui uf thc^ formor tuae a little, mnd p 
it with the new words." 

That is all posterior, and so is Crow*B etra 
called The MilUr's Daughter. Johnson, tl 
Usher of the Museum, was as over-natii 
Stenhouse. He professed to give his subj 
genuine Scotch songs, and yet, within t 
twenty in his first volume, are corapositi 
Purcell, Ame, Hook, Berg, and Battishi! 
carried his collection through in the sam 
This system has been attended with inconv' 
to the Scotch themselves. For instance, w! 
late George Thompson wished for a bett 
than Old Lmifj Stjne for Btims'a new som 
Lang StpiCj he selected the air of " Com] 
the rye," and adapted Burns's words to it. 
are now^ too timdy united to be severed 
cannot be doubted that Thompson woul 
chosen another tune, a genuine Scotch on* 
had known the history, 

A year or two ago I answered an 
about u Scotch song, and in a following i 
another of your correstpondents supplemen 
account with all the fable of Stenhouse ' 
had reject<;d. I did not write a second tim 
it should be understood by all literary Ln 
whose aim is truth that Stenhouse is nc 
trusted. For proof, refer to his name 
" Index of Subjects " in Popular Music 
Olilen Time. Wm. Chap] 

Of the Scottish version I know not any 
form earlier than what appears in James Jo 
Scots Mndml Mnsrnfn^ vol. v. p, 430 (b 
but certainly of 1797), beginning : — 
" Comin thro' the rye, poor body, 
Comin thro' the rye, 
She drnigl't a* her petticoatie, 

Comin thro' the rye. 
Ob. Jenny '■ a* weet, poor body, 

Jenny '» stildom dry, 
She dru'ijjrt a' her petticoatie, 
Comin thro' the rye." 



..11- -- jjthftt rcmuinsi of tlie old song. 

ing are well known, — 
' I m B wiy meet a. body, 
Caum Uiro* the rye/' kc, 

ool koo" ^^ '^"-t worthy evidence fx^^tcn- 

!olM«> . akhouijh the "second 

MnitcuTa may owe some- 

Hii. name occurs fifteen tinits in 

hnndred-songed volume (publUbed 

fl<fl.ili of Burns}, but not to tkia one 

rinted a-mon^ his work«, in modern 

tlufct counr.^ for nothing. The rye 

to the growing crop, not a district. 

Chappell unhesitatingly pronounces 

>y to be an alteration of *' a populjir 

been sung in a Londom panto- 

meefc a body going to the Fair. 
Ij kiu & body need a bcidy care ? " 

The pantomime came out at Chri.'stmaa, 

and the altenilion [for the i^cotn Muaical 

i] aeemo to have been made about nine 

of the pvibliciiti«-tn.'* The entry of the 

g"("If a body") was on June 21J, 

ntomime was J. C. Cvoas HH^irla^uin 

c by J. Sanderson, and Mrs. Henley 

Hong tvi Market Goody, I venture to 

U to have been injiwssible forllobcrt Burns 

'• altered " the song if it were written by 

For Robert Burns died at Dumfries on 

1796, and could not in his condition have 

1 brinted English song, entry of which had 

lie IcAS than a month before* It is wortli 

, and I feel assured we may find trace 

ottish version of the song earlier than 

, 1795-6. Sanderson ia not unlikely to 

acquainted with such a Scottitih original, 

I and he rosy have actually ** altered" 

older veraion ; for certainly the Sr.oU 

MuKCTum copy tills one of the e^irliest 

I jvvjf^ of the volume, and was, by no 

, already on the pewter plate 

I I rnsdied. The question involved 

Uiswered more decidedly after a search is 

Much remains to be done regarding the 

I of oar popular songs. J. W. E, 

^ by Aihtord, Kent, 

jDriginal words of "Comin' thro' the 
loot be satisfactorily traced. There are 
ferent rersiona of the song. The version 
now to l>e found tn the Worhi of Burns 
oe given in Johnwon's Mu»enTrij which 
lirough the hands of Burns ; hut the song 
some form or other, was known long 
ni«. Ae regards the conjecture of Scoto- 
that by "r^e" is meant n rivulet in 
that is OGFtjiinly a novel idea, A refer- 
he song itself will, I think, settle the 
Scotland, at the period when the r}'e 

has attained a good height, a deal of rain ftiUs, and* 
we know that, when the fair sex have to traverse a 
field by o path between standing rye v^hen it is 
wet, the lower {garments would natuniUy become 
very much saturated, or, as the song has it, 
•* She dralglot a* her petticoitie, 
Comitig through the rye." 

One cau imagine also that, going with a fair 
companion through a rye-tield, the temptation 
might, to many youthful mind;*, be strong to take 
a ki*<3 from their sweetheart ; but one can vscarcely 
believe such a thing occuniug to any one in 
wading through a rivulet, G. W, Napier. 

Alderiej EJge. 

Scoto-Americus asks if thl^ is a field of grain 
or a rivulet in Ayrshire called the Rye. As the 
question comes from a far country, it ought to be 
attended to. I never heard before of the idea of 
its being a stream. 1 have seen miiny editions of 
BuroK, and I have never seen rye spelt with a 
capitrii initial : this would seem to settle ihc 
matter. I should certainly vote for its being a 
field. Thomas Stratton. 

Mr. CuArrELL is wrong in supposing the 
quotation he gives has anything to do with the 
ori<}inal version of "Comin' thro' the rye." 
Burns took an old and weH-kuown song and 
slightly modiiied it, retaining the first verae un- 
idtered : — 

** Jeunie '* a* wnt. puir body, 
Jeauie '« teldom dry ; 
Sbe dnuffelt a' her peitificoatie, 
Coroia* ihro' the rye." 
"Rye" most certainly means rye, and not a 
river of that name. lo the north of Perthshire 
long ago they used to sing another old version, 
" Comin' thro' the broom," &c. All the old ver* 
sions had more wit than decency. The beat of 
Burns's songa, such as "Duncan Grey" and 
" Green grow the rashes, O ! " are talten from 
well-known old Scotch songs or ballads. J. H, 

Snowstorms (5"» S. iv. 5 !(».)— The snowstonn 
of 1U14 is mentioned in nwny parish registers, and 
it would be interesting to be furnished with the 
exact copy of the entry in that of Wotton Gilbert, 
mentioned by Mb. James. The following is from 
a small jjamphlet written by me :— 

*' The Durham pariah regiaters record that, 'A poor 
woman wm buryed the vi day of Jiuiuary, found dead 
an GelegHit moor, perished uppon a tempe4teuou<« nipht 
of iDowe H'^ was tba xTiii day of Dec. 1013.' The 
grratnofs and duration of thi« storui may be g;athered 
iroxa the fact that this poor womur* w«a not found till 
nineteen days after ah** periftheJ in tlie storm. 

"Stowc, in his annrdff, refers to the winter of 1613-14 
thus: * Tlie 17th of Jtmunry bepia a jtrent froat, with 
cfctrerae snow, wliich continued until tbe 14th of 
Febrnary, am] allieit the viulence of the froat and ioow 
fonie dttVH abated, yet it continued freezing nnd an owing 
much or little until the 7th of March.' Furthermore, 



t5«S. V, Fe»," 

there arc parish rc;?ister# "m Purhtuu vrhich record [)er- 
sons being lost in the suow b the yemra 1619, 1622, 16-i9. 
" The great storm of \t}H appears to Lave dprBud iU 
thick coTering of crystals over all pwta of Englanil, in 
the country and town, 'to the general tosic offurmers, 
graiierB^ husbandnion, and all aorts of people in the 
c'ountrie, and no lc«ae hurtful to cUiaenfl.* Ilowover, if 
Bnow8torio§ in the cltj inconveaience the people, it is 
quite ft different matter in the country, where the tra- 
veller, farmer, and ihepherd are necessitated to traveree 
the c-xtenaive moors and cross the wild and exposed 
mountains, which proves a difficult matter iudccd when 
all rottdi are blocked up, fences overblown, and the 
blinding snow, carried by cold winds, precludes the ^i^ht 
cf any object which tiiight otlierwise prove a landmark 
to a lost wayfarer. We need not wonder, then, thnt 
several persons perished, and large numbers of cattle and 
sheep were lost, in thistbo greatest of unowstorm?, which 
coutinued »o many vrcclu, and was reported to have 
b«en eighteen feet deep in the country, with moontainoua 
drifts never since or before witnessed. 

** It is thus rt'corded in the parish register of Youl- 
grave in Dcrbythire : "Thia year U314-6, Jan. 16, be>»aTi 
the greatest snow w hich ever fell uppon the earth, within 
man's uiemorjo. It coverM the earth five nuarters deep 
uppon the playno. And for heapas or drifts of snow, 
they were very deep, eo that pauongers, both horse aitd 
foot, pmsed over gates, hedges, wiUlcs. It fell at ten 
leverall tymes. and the lust was the greatest, to the great 
admiration and fear of nil the land^ lor it came from the 
foure parts of the world, so that uU c'ntryea were full, 
yea, the sontli p*te as well at these raoontaynrs. It con- 
tinued by daily encrea^ing until the 12th day of M^rcb 
(without the pipbt of any earth, eythcr upncn bilks or 
Talleys), uppon w'' daye, being the Lordes day, it began 
to decrease.' 

*• In Kaine's Ifote Bool (the 3IS. of which is now lost) 
ire find the following, referring to the neigbbourhooKl of 
Barnard Castle-on-Tees : — '1514. A great snow, the 
deepest ever known, did not yield until 26th Fob. [he 
then names nine persons of Barnard Castle and neigh- 
bourhuud who were lost], it was past travelling, but in 
danger of life both for man and beastj, by report was six 
]wrd« deep in the country/ A deep snow forsooth, and 
well might mention bo made of the loss of cattle bj the 

* North-Country-Man,' in 'a plaine famihnr talke be- 
twotfiic a London shop-kfepcr ' anvl hirri on this storm, 

• impriuted at London in 161fi,' and entitled, '■ The Cold 
Yeare. a dcepc snow, in which men and c.ittell have 

Eerished/ In the parish register of WliiL-kham, Pur- 
am. it is stated that * Michael Newton o'lshcd in the 
■nowe. $ Feb.. V'Ai : Ekanor Wilson alto ; and ' Isabel 
Han, Heater Man, theae two perished in the snowo th« 
Xth i»r Feb , and were not found till uowe, Mth Feb., 

" This great stonUj wbkh cotamenced on the 16th of 
January, oegan to dccre&<6 on the l*2th of March, 'and 
■0 by little find little con<itimed and wa«tcd away, till the 
eight und twentyth day of May, for then all the heapes 
or drifts of snow were coniumed, except one uppon 
Kindar-Scout [Derbyshire], w^" Uj till Wifcson-wcek.' 

" ThiH - 11 was a moat difastrouis one, having 

cost mn Jiv\r livt-a, and destroyed innumerable 

cattle, :^i :.-: tothe pmgnoBticationsof the Xnrth- 

oouQtrymu.ti, the breaking up of tbo snow would ha 
fruxight with dancer Fomewbnt serious results followed, 
but not so pcrioufl as mif*ht Ikrivcbeen expected according 
to tha abovc-nained Derbyshire authority, in which we 
find a rtcord of the 'ilyndrnnces aml'lofses' in that 
'Pcaka entry by the suowe above sayde.' First, * It 
hyndercd tbo eecd tynte. A very cold spring ' ; secimd, 
•It consumed much fodder by cause of the multitude of 

fibeep and continuance of cold wether'; third, 
many wanttd fewell.' 'Otherwyse few were 
in the fall ur drowned in the pasMige. In 
floods of water were not great though many. 

of our Lord be pray«'d ! The spring was ao 

Eato that much cattell was m very great danj^r, audi 
dyed. There fell also ten lesse snowcs in April, 
foote de*"!', some lesse, but continued long. U| 
day in the morning. in«tend of fetching in 
youthes brought in fl;:ikt:s of anow, w'" lay 
deep uppon the moores and moontaynea, 
afore«aydo snowes vanished away oud tb»cd 
or no rayne/ 

*♦ Though snow was never more plentifal ia 
than wt ihij time, the grcut storm was followc# 
hummer, at Ica^t in Perbyshire. The anticipa 
came, and is thus recorded : — ' IGlfK A dry 
There was no rayne fell ttppon the earth from tbtl 
day of March ui>til the 2iid dny of 5lay, and then 
was a phower ; after which there fell none tyll 
day of August. (After which tyme there was 
rayne tippon the earth) so that the greatest part 
bind, especially the south p'ta were burnt upp, bo<lt i 
and hay. An ordinary summer load of ha5' i 
and little or none to be gott for money. Thi 
peukfl was very sore bunit upp, only L&a 
Cheshyro had rayne enough throucb all 
both come and hay sufficient. There wna 
rayne fell the last winter, but snow only.' '* 

I think I hiive heard that it is not lucky 
the dead limly uf ;» m:»n lost in the snow 
room where there i.^ a. fire. 

Vr. M. EoGLi 

I ftiii inilcbted to Mr. Solly for some 
inforiuatioa relative to the great faU of 
1614-15. He saya :— 

" I would draw your attention to a little refere-oflil 
the same fact which is given by Camden in fei* ' H^i 
Regis Jacobi I. Annalium apparatus 1615 Febr. i'np* 
iutensum et Sin copiosissima : prccipud die 12 et HwM 

Solu diaaolutem ante 12." Doubtlens the fall ransd 10 
ifTorcnt parts of the country ; but it must bhre tajj 
very heavy, or Camden would not Imve recorded it 9m 
begins alibis years on the 1st of January (not on MlH 
Day), so I think, no doubt, that he refers to the m^ 
sriow as your old MS, Bakor does not mention tlirf 
winter, thou|.:h he gives an account of the hard wint^ 
tjf 1608, when the Thames was frozen over. Thisfr 
be says, began in December and lasted till the foUc 

As such information is not easily obtained 
wanted, T venture to nguin ofler a suggest 
made aomo time since in " N. & Q." It wurI 
its readers should send a short not^ of the 
the weather or roads at any piirticnlar time pMj 
to 1750. Much light would by that meanfti" 
thrown upon many luntters of history or 
life which are now but imperfectly und< 
Ealph N. 
Afihford, Kent. 

"The Book/' by Mrs. Serres (6**^ S. ii 

409.)— Is not Mr, Thoms on the avi 
endeuvoiiring to connect Mrs. Sent 
Baok"? The foUowing extract froiu im, 
Mcrcynj, April 11, 1812, points rather to 
Caroline Ihtin Mrs. Serres: — 




* katfva u «ir penkr* llmt after an inquiry, iti'** 
•i4 IW *dtti(a*a /,i - ''vrfrf-n/ Mluch took pkce 
«onLe y^iAiifviaCo Lbe t certain ill u«triuu9 

FcBwlib» IMnrw wi ' suKjtctof tliatin- 

^%dxy. atmlntk 3lr. Poruu...., .... :.jen Cliaiicellor to the 
Vr^Ctm «f n^&2e5. aad now i'rimc Minister to ber Roral 
ihc r«put«(l author. Thi«i Book, or ' The 
'mU i»M \jKtn cmpliAticallr calloJ. ttiuui^h origi- 
atJfJr IdIvmImI to clrculute wiij'jly loih iri Kiigtond and 
oa 1^ CSiBt— -:nt - f Europe, u;v^. it (ftcm-, f^r certain 
ntmamtti Bli i iJ ; but u few atraj cupica, some- 

hamQ^^ther. ir irny into PloWian bandfl, and 

Chat «iMiM k.«Te i"*-ii i' •.-■■-'■' :■-■ -^ :■,- : -ice; 

WC M JU« Wbcltl-rk 1 i a*C 

cf fVFaisun*, akether in. : iud 

lyi^i that the hi§t" antioQ for one 

^^ Uix. w,>|i|ai of thia PutilicnU..... ii^^ kkLuh to rmr know* 
Mfl*, «ra tti ire 1i»l the nnrrmtiTe from n, T»*rtj con- 
In the tntmactiou. wo ImTe no doubt but it i« 

the Btrsy Book Iibtui^ intttoAtcd to a 
f Adrait/Mtnition that ft publicutioa 
hunda which he supposed AttniBtert 

*•. he wn« rcr)iie«t*d»«if>(}r «nfnp little 

.... , ., ., ^^jj 

, : . ,.;, ■ :,ito 

iii«Uuti«t, Im M&§ ojj tbe duy uiid ivt ihe liour 

" »liuvrn into the npurtnieiit, where bix vt ciijht 

and Tt ' " TioarmUo PenoniM(ei wire 

b9» MD'l Ulio^U ntgoiiation^' all of 

^f h4Tt iiill«4 to us, but which, afl 

• A.ry, %vc thaM not Tentore torepc»t. 

ukcd TVKii: * Well, 8in htTc you j^ot 

..... >iT/ wus the reply; ' I hsTe left it at 

in mf greiit co»t*— • In your great oat ! ' said 

trtrti, in n itT'P'^' HU^rnn'in accent. ' Wm ever 

;• t book in your irrcat 

ity of the R«est<t at 

11- -31 back to your irmj 

nd brifJK the book hither with- 

11 he produced the book, taking 

»ircT< ^ with a firm grft'Pi iJi<^ to ptnce 

ft >l :a the hands of the negotiittom 

Vthmr ]> jifcvrnt a sitrpnac, hating faliun 

}t9iUgut inrMt thikt cgurtieraare not nlwayihoncbt 

" .ivd a Noble and Learned Lorsl, 

e or artifice will be used to 

, : lication, of which you have in 

<-i huw, become po«»e««cd : but upon 

ere hia Lordthip applied hu hand to 

niiX when honour ia the pledjso) * you 

U t:. tiling in thid chamber but the wost 

this declaration, the book wod given 
li&nd«, and After Imvinf^ undergone a 
|Aii.riii iti'i c'-u'M , accompanied with a number of iigr»i- 
lieaat looks and wLi,*fjer8, one of the mejubrr* iaid ;— 
l^f*Jf !»ir» whjit do you expect for tbia buok (' ' Four 
nitdrtd pounds.' woj the reply. — 'Four hundred 
^Bmli ! ' cried J* Bight Hon. Secret«j-y, in hii fjicctioua 
*»•♦ *You are a Yorkshireman, Mr. IK, are you not T 
*I liir in that county,' nid Mr D.— ' I thought aamuch/ 
^ the iziK)uirer. * Thia is an enomiou* sum to uk for 
book ; jou don't oJwa/a fix ssuch a price upun your 
I prostttne I ' * Not alway*. Sir,* said the 
; 'bat I could, by the pubUcation of this work* 
^t iDore uiouey than 1 aak you for it ; or I could aell 
ktt \ LoTidou publisher for a larger aum.* — ' PerhaiiB 
(•y* iifta tbe vcpJj; * but it it ntccnajj to aik joa ft 

qae«tion or two more before we clcie tlfu bargmln. Hare 
you youneelf made, or have you allowed any other person 
to make, any copy or extracts from this publication V 
'No/ sitid the bookseller, 'I hare not.'—* Have you 
suffered any person to rend It since it came into your 
possession I ' * No/—' Not even your wife V ' No/ — 
' Will you not dispone of it for a lees sum than four 
hundred }>oundj 1 ' ' It Is not my intention, ^entlemen.' 
said he, ' to take a less sum/ — ' Here is the money then.* 
»aid one of the party ; ' you hare made u very good djiy'g 
work, Mr. D., and wo wiih you a good morning/ Mr. 
D> examined the notes, made his best bow, and retired/" 

Charles A, Fedrber. 

Thkophilus Swift (5*^ S. r. 60.)— Mention 
kivitig been lately Jirnde of this gentleman, I send 
uo cxuct tnuiscript of aome MS. notes in ii copy of 
ii privately printed volntiie, entitled The Toucit- 
$ton6 of Truths &c., by Theophiius Swift, Esq., 
third ed,, Dublin, 1811, The oook is ia my poa- 
Mtskm, and the noton tat in the handwriting of, 
aad signed by, the Bev. John Barrett^ D.D., who 
wfts for many yeare a well-known Senior Fellow, 
and likewiHe the Vioe-Provoat, of Trinity College, 
Dublin, They are curiotM and worthy of preser- 
vation, and are as follows : — 

"May 24, 1S15. When Sir. T. S. paid his eddrona 
to Miss I»., his wife (from whom he bad parted) was 
then living in En^rland. Her death ia ailudod to in 
pp. 'iO A: 47 by the word^ * Bubscquent Period ' ; in 
p. 7^{, by ' nu event which took place about ton months 
a;£o ' ; aiid in p 1 11, by ' tbe period had arrired.* Great 
proof Ihi* of the morjility and delicacy of both parties, 
who could contract these' ties during the life-titue of the 
third person. 3ee also p. 37» where he uses the exproa* 
fiion, ' a late eTent.' 

" Theoph. 8wift d^cd Sep', 1S15 («o Q. J/., Oot% 18151, 
and left two aons ■ 1. Dtane Hwift ; '1. VAin. L. Swift, bis 
Ex', & in the Jcivel Office in the Tower, 

" lie fought a dael with the D. of Richraond, in which 
he was severely wounded. The c^use, a pantKraph in a 

Eublic papiT, in defence of the Duke of York. OoL 
«nox conccirinj? himself aggrieved by tho Duke of 
York, foti{;ht a duel with him, and the Dulte had a 
narrow ejcap'o, the ball hivioj; graxed his cheek. Mr. 
Swift publii^hcd a moat bitter and cxasxtemtin^j; pam» 
phlet. A dni.l ensued, in which Hwift was shot thro' 
the body ; but his antagonist admitted that he had 
beliatfd with gallantry. It was gupposed that thro' 
ade«tre of gnttingfiome preferment he had eniborktd in 
this Quirotio aJtcniurc : but all he got was, that the 
Duke of York once acnt his compliments of enquiry and 

"Tbeophilus Swift waa author of Th< Oambttrt: a 
Pofvi,4U>. : Poitical Addnst lo Hi* Mitj€»tif, 4to.; LfUfr 
to (h^ King oik the Co%dMi of V^. L4nox\ 178&; L«ttei- 
b> ir?rt. A. Brown on the Dud of Vork and Z^efMkr. 17S9 ^ 
Vindi'^ation. of Reti^ick WiUmtm, co»tmo»fy ccMtd Thi 
Mo^'fta-, 1700. 

*' Auif. '21, 1817. At a Meeting; in London, on Mr. 
Owen's plan, Mr. Swift stated that ho held nn office 
under Goveruiuent^ which hia father had held for 45 

Dr. Barrett, I inny add, was the editor of St. 
Matthew** Gospel in Greek, from a iijdlrnpsest 
MS., which is commonly known ^^ Code.^ Z. 



[6« R V. Feb. 19,*7fi. 

(DuWin, If^Ol), and died November 14, 182L 
He w;iJ!i, undoubtedly, a strange cburacter. 


Hoa\GARTH (5* S. IV. 207. 378 ; v. 57.)— I Jitu 
much obliged to you for inserting my query on 
this subject ; also to those who have so kindly 
replied to it. They show clearly that our his- 
tonnns, Charlton nnd Young, were wrong in saying 
that the Harngiirth was in Whitby Harbour, It 
could not be there, as the ti<le ebbs and flows 
regularly every day. Nor could it be any staith 
or wharf for shipping purposes. 

We certainly batJ, in the befjinning of this cen- 
tury, four vilkges with township fields within ten 
miles of Whitby, nauielyi Hinderwell, Lytbej and 
Sandaend^ in Mulgrafe estate, and Rawpaature, in 
Fyling I>:iles ; but only Lyth and Sandaend are 
now used aa township pastures, as of old. The 
other two have been enclosed and kid to the 
neighbouring farms. The pjistures might be ciillcd 
Horngi\rth, as the place whore the homed aittlc 
were kept, or beoiuae the cows wore called to the 
milking- place by the sound of a horn, morning and 
evening ; but they are not now known by that 
name, nor do I think the Horngarth of the abbot 
and those gentlemen who asaisted in maintaining 
it was a cottagera* cow pasture, but the Buck 
Park, in Fyling Daks, where the abbot and hia 
homagcra kept deer till the dissolution of the 
monastery. King Henry L and sevem! of his 
successors bunted in it, and rewarded the abbots 
for the privilege, as we see by their several ch;irtera 
in the abbots' chartularj^ That park might be 
called the Horngarth, because buck5 are horneil 
game, so distinguished from hares and winged 

fame, which cannot be kept exclusively in it park 
y fencing. Bucks also cast their horns, which 
the keepers generally claim as their perquisites. 
The huntsman also uses a horn to control the 
hunt ; so that Horngarth may apply to the Buck 
Park as wclJ as to a township piustiire, but cer- 
tainly not t^ Whitby Hurbour, or to any staitli or 
wharf for shipping uses. The Buck Park was in 
Eamsdale, and mostly fenced in by a stone wall, 
much of which is still standing, but dilapidated. 
The beck and boggy places, then, would require 
wooden palings and hecks, which took much wood 
and labour every year to repair them ; hence 
disputes and litigations occurred. It is aUo 
probable that those who helped to maintain the 
park shareil, to<\ in the .sport» which even our 
sovereigns esteemed a great favour. 

Eamsdale Beck runs through the park. It 
enters by ii full of more than thirty feet, which 
forms a Hufficitnt fence there ; but the exit is on 
the level, and in now fenced by a swinging heck, 
for it ia yet the boundary fenoe^ as when it was a 
park. EicHARD Craven. 

Victcjitk. Square, Whitby. 

Sayik*; thk Nkrnr Creed (6"" S. v. S6.) 
The errors both to jwiying and singing the Cn 
arc numerous and misleading. S. T. P. has poim 
out the confusion of ideaii in reference to the Hi 
Ghost, ** The Lord and Life-giver." But I thi 
he introduces confusion by his followina: «» 
gestion. The " l^mpha£^i$ " is intended to th 
distinction between tK, " ouf o/," ** of tli* 
stance," and the mere genitive inflection, 
defect of the English language misleads those w 
do not know, or have forgotten, Greek. T 
capital in " Begotten " marks a eepiiTat'e but 
/^mtcfi proposition. The comma after it i ^ 
universally slurred. The careful word in ^ 
whole statement of the doctrine of the eten 
generation of the Son requires only clear eiio 
ciation of the terms for perfeet apprehension. T 
second Adirnt itith glnnj ia an essential portii 
of the Faith. 

In the third division of the Creed the jot 
worship of the Trinity is propounded ns a ma 
of faith. " TofjctheTt" in saying or singnng, «i 
to bo connected with " worshipped and glonfii 
in the Greek, arvfiTrpfia-Kwovftivov Kol arvvSo\ 
lurav. This also is almost universally disi 

Let me protest here against the omiasioa 
of the notes of the (Church — " Holiness " — in 
version of the universal creed. 

Herbert Rakdox*? 


The unfortunate omission in most Prayef 
of the comma after " The Lord," is probabi 
cause of the mistake so often made by thoug 
readers. In the Latin version it is nearly aI 
ptinted " Dominum, et viviticantem." " G<m 
God" is read by many to show that the "ol 
not a mere genitive, but represents the f#c ftn 
of the Greek and Ltitin, T. F. ', 

Is S. T. P. aware that in this Creed frtinM 
Nice, A.D. :i±i\ it ended with the wonls, '* I be! 
in the Holy Ghost" ? This is stated in the 
Book Tnttrkaredf at p. 167, published, in 
(the fourth edition in 1870), by the present '. 
Dr. Campion, of tjuecn's College, and the 
Rev. W. J. Beaumont, of Trinity College, < 
liridgo. The later chuiN.'s were said to be a< 
at the Council of Constantinople, a.d. 3^1, 
at Toledo, a.d. 589. I think these two 
bear very much on the *' Filioque." S. ', 



(5^ S. v. 2G.)— I shall take it as a fiivow 
Mr, Randolph will kindly point out to n 
what part of the Ethics I may find the di\Tsi 
which he refers. I know Aristotle fairly well, 
hare no recollection of having seen it. In 
as, to the best of my knowledge, there is no 
word as 0vfit}TiKOif I hardly see how the a 




As to «ri^i7i>/riKov, it only occurs 
Car *i I know, throughout the whole 
pd tbea ia the neuter^ in opp-Diiitioo to 
t, 13^ 2^ It i« true Ariatotlc say a, at 5« 
^tSif^pk/TOV a.—u dvfiov Kill t.inOvixt.a<^^ 
Mtiaili «re the result of passion and 
" ; but he does not h\j these 
categories under which man- 
claftsedf but as motive-iJowere 
tly in the production of human 
t!o I anywhere find that " in hia 
tiefly eharactemtic of the male 
, fly exhibited in children.'* He 
a tiiat children, with many others, act 
^rtSvfita than ;r^oat/>€a-t5, which every 

he does not, u Btated, make av^ptla 
e of hvfAOs" but Bays it is the mean of 
iloor, and Bdppo'g = e:rcej<»iv6 dariwj— 
ttI X€/>i <i>6fSnv'; Kal Oappij. Nor doea 
IT jia to uffirui that <r<i}cf>potTviti is *' the 
ri^i'/i««/' but as a mean respecting plea- 
r^&Trj^ €<rrl TTipt ij^oi^as' rf fTio<jjpo<Tvvt}, 
^dah is called temperate from not feeling 
^beace of ple^ure, and abbtaining from 


le protoplastic theory on i/c^os and 
t will not enter. Scripture is our only 
!>n ttll matters connected with the orijrin 
edee, and, from the information to tie 
here^ I find nothing in the shjiii^ of data 
;o found an opinion one way or the other, 
rthy of remark that Phito divided the 
JTt of the soul into Ovfxo^ and cVif^c/u'a, 
'j exactly symbolizes with Aristotle. 
Edmukd Tbw» M.A. 

fclfDOWH might have gone much further 
r, Kot only mankind, but the whole 

Kbde up of opposite? and intermediates. 
Dxd will describe the entire pheno- 
y.^ Who will ever compitss a book 
. title ? Another theme would occupy a 
t«h6D»ive and profound mind, *' Things 
be," though I do not wish to be under- 
J. W. Jevoks. 


3(J9.)— On beluilf of the library of the 
aiversity, I should be glad to avail my- 
. Black's kind oH'er. Thia libriiry has 
in of works relating purely to slavery 
lavery. comprising 8iM» Ixjund volumes 
f 5,(MX> ptunphletB, and including a great 
f broadiibeet!*, posters, and caricatures, 
files of newspapers. It contains all the 
ting of skvery from the private libraries 
Samuel J, May (Syracuse, N.Y.), Gerrit 
Heibono, N.Y.), and Richard D. Webb 
^ noted opponents of slavery, together 

with many books and pamphlets, procured throygli 
the kind interest of William Lloyd Garrison, 
Wendell Phillips, and the late Senator Sumner. 
It hi! 9 also received kirge accessions from the 
Southern States. Willard Fiske. 

Itbaca, U.S. 

CVmous Enr-ons cacsed 
(5*" S, iv, 483.)— I question 
('AMUaor the authors cited Iv 
gooil re]^>?oa to show that mat} 
not derived from mnia hora 
may, indeed, be questionable 
philologists cited are of much 

Junior (jarrkk. 

nr THE Homoxtitt 
whether either M. 
hi til have given any 
ig«r and honh^ur are 
and bona hora. It 
whether any of the 
authority on matters 
Iv. S, Cuarnock. 

Miniature or Gaissbobouoh {5^ S. v. 29.) — 
I do not know where the miniature asked for is ; 
but the subjoined notice may be *)f interest. 
Tliere is a private collection of works by Gains- 
borough which belongs to Rev. W. Green, Rector 
of Steeple Biirton, Ojcon, and is now at the house 
of his son, Rev, W. E. Green, Avington Rectory, 
near Winchester. 


1. Mm. Qainsborough, hifi wife. 

2. MiM Qainaboruugbi his elder dftughter. This li an- 

3. Mra. Piicher^ his only other daughter. 

These are in excellent presentation, and are, I 
think, three quarters in length. 

1 . Large crayon drawiog : girl on a donkey ; framed. 

2. Charity : tbe same aubject M that of the jJiuiiting:, 
exhibited nt the Keti?ifijjtnn x^fu8eum; framed. 

3. 4, 5, Simaller drawings ; framed. 

Mr. Green is a relative of the Gainsboroughs, 
nnd they came into hh family by the wiU of Mias 
GaiaHborough, the elder daughter, and have been 
in possession ever since* her decease. 

Ed, Maesball. 

The Toothache ascribed to the Gnawiko 
OF A Worm (6*** S. v, 24.)— The idea which aaao- 
eiates the toothache with the gnawing of a worm 
used to prevail much further south than the 
Orkney Islands. In my native county of Aber- 
deen, the home of many old aiiperstition.s and 
customs not met with in any other part of the 
island, the toothache waa, thirty years ago, and 
I have no doubt in mnny parts is still, designated 
" the worm." I never heard any one seriously 
allege that the decay of the tooth and the gnawing 
pain by which it is so frequently accompanied 
were produced by a worm, but the exi.'itence of 
the term furni.%he8 pretty strong presumptive 
evidence that such a belief did prevail in bygone 
ages. Alexander Patersok. 


SouKD IN Fogs (5"» S. v. 7.)— That the signal 
guns were not heard by tkose in the boat, though 



[!>'■" S, V. 

they were close to the ship, is cnrioua, hut the 
boat might have been much more distjint from the 
ship when the gtms were firing than when the fo^' 
clearef!. When Giiy-Lnesttc ascendefi 23,000 feet, 
sound was enfeebled from the rareficatioD of the 
atmosphere. All fioiinda mo tninsmitted with 
equal velocity, be thcv high or low, loud or gentle, 
for sounds of music heard at a distance do not 
change their intervals. Density of medium, when 
there i* continuity, appears to aid sound, for if 
you scratch with a pin jit one end of a felled pine- 
tree, though inaudible to you, it will be uudiMe if 
a person place his ear at the ffther end, he the tree 
as long as it may, Franklin, having placed hi« 
head under water» heani diatiactly two stones 
struck toi;ether at the distance of half a mil<». 
Some philosophers have said that fish cannot 
hear. In a medium that conveys sound thus, ts it 
likely I If soun<l depends on vibration, the cessa- 
tion of sound in a fog indicates non- vibration, and 
shows that the air is not in a state denser than 
ordinary, but less dense, continuity beinpr inter- 
rupted both to the eye and to the ear. If vibra- 
tions are too slow, they convey no nound to the 
ear ; if they are too rapid, they equally escape our 
senses " Est modus in rebus " verily is not mis- 
placed OB ** tliis isthmus of a middle state." 

C, A, Ward. 

"Lent>i%-o Booces" (5"» S. iv, 512), so cidled, 
are kept in this parish by voluntary contributions 
made annually, and their manugerucnt and dis- 
posal entrusted to a lady who ha^, for a long time 
past, undertaken the chaiTge. Similar oneH were 
in use in the atljoining parish of Adderbury when 
I resided there some years back, 

Deddington, Oxfordahire. 

"The Unclaimed DAurriiTKR," ko, (5** S. 
iv. B12.) — I hoard, a cotisidemble time ago, that 
the yonn«T lady was subsequently owned and re- 
stored. I regret that I am not able to recollect 
my authority (which was verbal), but I considered 
it reliable at the time. T, W, Webb. 

A book was publi'*hed, about the time Ma. 
Fennell mentions, with the title of the Unckiimal 
Daughter. I had the opportunity of meeting the 
young htdy in question on more than one occasion. 
She went by the name of Anna St-anhope, and not 
Lucy Melville. Her protectress was a Miss Ed- 
kins ; and it was generally supposed by those who 
knew her, and saw Miss Stanhope, that the "af- 
fecting history *' was the result of a very romantic 
imiigination on MIbs Edkins's part. Sliss Stan- 
hop was very little like a heroine of romance. 
Mi89 Edktns died several years ago, and the " un- 
elftimed daughter," after her death, was rpceived 
(as I am informed) into some charitable institii 
tioD. R. D. S. 

" RuSSTAN'LmK Al'PAKEt^' (j"* S. "^ 

In D. C. E.'s communication with reaped 
r^irn orders of the Charterhouse, the above 
f ion oeeni^. Con it be that it is a miaj 
rii^an-like ? If not, what is its origin ? 

C. E. H. 

Etvmoloot op " Golden " (5'** S. t 
Gold, Golden, found in proper names, are 
corrupted from wald. Conf. Goldhangei 
=^wM-ing (G. wold^ng); and the a 
Goldie, Waldie, Goldnin, Waldron. 

R. S. Chab 

Junior Oarrick, 

(5*^ S. v. 28.) — The words which your corres 
quotes, "ad wardam et ad comagium," 
tne two ancient duties of Castle wa^ and \ 
or noitgeld ;(tthe latter is peculiar to ' 
northern couutiea, Northumberland, Cum 
Durham, and Westiuoreland. 

CoiiU ivardj in Northumberland, was a c 
tion towards the maintenance and defeno 
royal castles of Bamburfjh and Newcastle, 
rendered at first by personal service, 1 
afterwards commuted for a sum of money 
ously enough, while the castle ward of N 
(in the reign of Henry III.) amounted to! 
of Bamburgh amounted only to five marks 
This is explained by Hodgson, the hiatc 
jmssibiy arising from the fact that the t 
Bamburgh was in existence before the G 
when money was of much higher value. 

Cornage^ or nontgeld (under which mi 
sometimes met with), seems to have beei 
ally a tribute of homed beasts [conxnagiu 
like castle ward, was early commuted for i 
jmyment : — 

*' In the Pipe Rolls of Cumberiond and Wert 
it is cntleil Gi'fdum iinimattum, and JO the Diir 
Bolt of the ^Hat of Henry ), vre meet vrtth ibflfl 
eonagium anirUnliutn. In NorthutnborlAnd 
comaffiutu «nly occurv^ without nny adjani! 
Hotlprson, Hiiiory of ^^ortkumUriand, part i, 

Bradford lies about four miles to the 
Bamburgb, and the remains of the man 
arc still in existence. The De Bmdeford* 
pay their contributions of cornage and cat 
to the sheriff, who had charge of Bambur{ 
for the Crown. H. F. 

Easter on Aprfl 16 {o^ S. v. 1211 
esRiiy on almanacs in the January numb« 
Ntw Quarterly J I briefly noticed C. H/s d 
The definition in the Pniyer Book, as De 
points out in the Book of Almanac*, ism 
two points. It puts the day of full moon 
fourteenth day, and the moon of the hei 
the calendar moon. This is the tme alt 
" Easter Day is the Sunday following tl 




calendar moon which happeiiR 
.the 2l8t of March," 

tAken the moon of the 

two days wrong. The 

Gregorian calendar will fall on 

therefore, the fourteenth daj of 

April ; and, 0.9 thut is a Sun- 

Btust be the Sunday after. 

Mortimer Colliss. 

kp« find a solution of hh ditfi- 

to ihe note at the en<l of tlie 

rable Feasts, on the subject of the 

Meqaent on the bi.'^aextiJe or leap yeiir, 

' r.rf-s<-ni.. The note in question ahouid 

. and elucidated by, ihe rale, 

_^ .» Easter Day. 

E. C. HiJltSGTON. 
, gutter. 

^kuER OF Balltbaoget (5'*» S. V, 
Hm Vftnx represents thb family, and 
m will be found in Burke's rterage 


Abtbbbouse: Ebavors (5**» S. v. 27, 
B'Mranr tae Bimply the blherei of the 
Rule, the Seuipnngham Rule, the Bcne- 
le^ dJiiixi^ from that of St. Gall, and 
p HuJe> It was '* potuB post Nonaru 
t«ni>ore," Littleton gives, " Bever, or 
rtween me:vb." Bailey says, *' A small 
itween dinner and supiHjr." 
loHnr man will take hii rest long in the 
-~ -.•: ^ ' ' ve hi« breakfut : at noon he 
. then h IB beTcr in the after- 

': p. 416. 

i drnnght of beer with a Bmall oornnions 
d cheese, were regularly isaued at Win- 
beever time " in the cloister time of the 
K)at 4 P.M. 

SIackexzie E. C. Walcott. 

w-as at Westminster, the small loaves of 
1 we ate in the college hall 'jirere always 
p«, "Fetch me a beaver" was equi- 
Petch me a roll of bread." 

G. 0. K 


7, 76, 116, 192, 3S9, 455,)-! conj^nt- 

fc» Upon hiii perception of the real point 

■'^' ' iHsion. Of course if the bur- 

liftted by the entry of the thief, 

h entry^ an incomplete otience, 

falls to the pTotind- But let 

I ion of burglary. Sir Edward 

! opted by Blackstone and tht? 

. ) is " by night brealcinjjand 

to A mansion house, with intent to 

" " (3 Intt.j 63 ; 4 Bl Com,, 224 ; 

4 StqtL Com,, 6th ed., lf)G ; Arckhold, Crim. PI, 
and Ei^d., 16th ed., 45(»). The heimj iti the 
house (even with a felonious intent), or the thercm 
commiUiTiff a fdony^ appears, I submit, by the 
^'e^y definition, to be no part of the burglary. The 
moment the criminal has got any part ot Iiis per- 
son, or even any instrument held in hia hand (if 
he intend such inHtrunient to assist him in perpe- 
tmting a felony), inside the house, that instant 
(supposing the felontotn intent to exist) the crime 
is coraplete, and he may be indicted and punished 
for a burgkiry (1 Halt^ P. C., 555 : FosL, 10« ; 
1 Hawh, P. f'., c. 38, 5§ 11, 12 ; E. v, Bailey, 
i?. di R., 341), After entrance inside there h no 
" breaking and entering," and it is precisely the 
"breaking and entering" which constitutes the 
burglary. What the offender does afterwards may 
indeed be evidence of the intent with which ho 
broke and entered, bnt it does not make the 
breaking and entering criminal ; the entmnce be- 
came criminal because of the intent, not becruise 
of the act. The ** forcible and iitrocioua crime" ii 
conaumraated, and therefore there can be no " pre- 
vention" of it. But I am ashamed to labour 
so obvioua a point. Mr, Boulger's communica- 
tion does not appear to me to call for any special 
reply. I have not, howcvLT (he will ploaac note), 
** conceded " anything;; to him. If I had thought 
that he wa*' only maintaining^ a specuhition as to 
the verdict of a jury in a particukir c:ise, I ahouid 
not have troubled " N. &, Q.'* with a reply : the 
verdicts of juries arc incomprehensible. Bnt I 
inmgined that your correspondent really wanted 
to laiow how the law stood. My opinion on that 
head is unchanged, viz., that the act is (upon prin- 
ciple, and in the absence of authority) not jti^ttifi- 
able Louiicide, that it is certainly not mansltiughter, 
uud that therefore it is moat probably murder. 
By the way, as a parting piece of information, I 
may tell Mh. Botloer that murder \a not the 
*' greatest crime in the law l»uok " (whatever that 
may mean). Middle Temp lab. 

Much has been written on this subject by your 
various correspondents, but there is one form of 
homicide to which no one ht^s adverted, and 
which ^eeuiB to rue (o requirc some explanation. 
In an article on ** Ladies and Freemasonry," in 
S'** S. iv. 103, it is stated that a lady was once con- 
cealed in a closet, from which she could see what 
was p:i5sing in a Masonic lodge. She was, how- 
ever, discovered, and the narrative goes on to say, 
''in the first paroxysm of rage and alarm, it was 
said her deiith was resolved upon," &c. The mat- 
ter, however, was compromised. It h a popular 
Siiying that a person, with a drawn swnrd, alwnya 
stands at the door of a lodge, in order to prev^ent 
any one but a Mo.'ion from entering. I would ask, in 
all seriousness, if the lady had been put to death 
in the first paroxysm of rage and alarm, would 



5^ 8, V. Feb. 19, 

it have been * case of justifiable homicide ? la 
there any law that would justify tbe perpetrator 
in this aumumry punishment ? 

H. E. Wilkinson. 
Anerlejr, S.E. 

Musical Revenge : " Hcdirras " (5^ S. iii. 
325, 393, 456, 519 ; iv. 277» 295 ; t. 32.)-I am 
much struck by a passage in Mr. Stephens's 
communication (p. 296): "Dr. Johnson W{i8 for 
once in error in assuming that the popularity of 
HudHira^ waned after the Restoration." Aft the 
king had "hla own ao[ain " in 1660, and the im- 
primatur for printin;]f Budibras is dated l^ov. 11, 
1C62, I fail to sec how Dr. Johnson, or any one 
else, could have formed &uch an sislonishing 
opinion. W. Whiston. 

Heraldic (d^'* S. v. 48.)— No lady, married or 
not, should use a motto under her lozengo, however 
many the fiimOy may have. P. P. 

Sir Henry Wotton (5^^ S. v. 67.)— I think 
there can he no doubt that the '* useful apothegm. 
* Disputant] i pruritus, Ecclcaiamm scabies,"* was 
known long before Wotton's time. 

Your correspontient G* B, B. doea not mention 
that Sir H. Wotton hrid used it before. 

In the Fidifjidft Wottoniana: (3rd ed., 1672), 
p. 124, "A Panegyrick to King Charles," the 
phrase occurs. I quote from the translation, the 
original beinf^ *' Written in Latin by Sir H. 
Wotton a little before his death " i — 

'* There were hatched abroiid some ye^rs ngone, or 
pcrhftp^ raked up out of Antiquity, cerl&in Controversiea 
about high points of the Crc«d. Your Majeaty with 
tnost laudable temper by Proclamation iuppressed on 
bnth tides &1I maimer of debiitei. Others may thmk 
what pleftseth them ; in my opinion (if I umy have 
pardon for the phraae) Ditputaudi Pruritus fit EccUsi- 
ttium Scaliicf (the itch of disputinif will proTO the ecfthof 

That it wa.i a .sayitifj in Wolton's time is self- 
evident. He aaya, " If I may have purdon for the 
phmse/* or, in the original, " *Si verbo sit venia." 

If through the medium of " N. & Q." the author 
can be traced, I shall feel much gratified. 

G. W. NArtER. 

Alderley Edge. 


St. BaTtholomuo's Hoipiial Rqiorh. Edited by 
James Andrew, M.D., and Thomiia Smith, 
F.R.C.8. VoL XL (Smith, Elder & Co.) 
Ik the present Tolume of these Reports, edited by 
the eminent physician and suri^eon above named, 
there is an essay, by Dr. Norman Moore, which 
■will be of interest to many readers of '* N. & QJ' 
It 13 "Od the History of Medicine in Ireland^ 
founded on an Examination of some MSS. in the 
British Museum." These MSS. are full of very 

curious matter, whether relating, as some do, fel 

the biiitory of medicine generally, or to that m 

medicine in Ireland particularly. Wc 

refer our readers to the essiiy itself for the d< 

of Dr. Moore's researches in foreign as w< 

home libraries, among Latin and Irish monut 

the latter being occiisionally translation! 

the former. Now and then, the learned 1( 

the Green lale makes a slip, or adopts that of 

original MS. For instance, the transliitor of t^ 

Liiium Medicimr^ the author of which ' - ' 

FrenchmaDj Bernardus de Gordon, says, " I 

Gracing Deceis repetit^ plncebunt ^*dhon 'l, i^, 

m ur na friotal fa dbeich,-' which Dr, Moore, 

given u very libeml allowance of Irish text, ti 

" Horace says, *Decies repetita plucebunt,* 

tasty is the tlnn;^ that is told ten times,*' 

noticing the error in the quotation (**placebimt1 

" place bit '*) from Horace, from whoae name tl 

rate seems to have been as readily dropped 

land us if that western Britain were within hi 

of Bow Belb, There is a slip in a <|uotation 

Seneca, which h much gi-aver than the o 

Horace, ** Nunquam nimis dicitur quod at 

dicitur." Dr. ^Moore tmnslates the Irish 

ing of the above, " That is not said too 

that is not said enough " ; but for 1h« 

"dicitur" we must reiwi discitur^ and 

htive, "The matter is never too often 

which 13 never sufficiently learned," Ai 

Irish surgic^d practitioners perhaps the 

trious vfim Diancecht, who, three thousand 

uuiny hundred years after the Creation, 

counted the pagan god of health and healing 

even in legal matte ra, " his judgments were 

A chief, aspiring to be a king, named Nt 

won a victory in which he lost bis bamL 

defect excluded him from the crown, but Dif 

"cured the wound, and fitted on n silver 

Ditincecht's result w^as brillinnt, but his ii 

must have been plow, for the king was sev 

under treatment." We must here remark 

physical defect, which was a bar to the 

office, waa not in reality cured, and th 

Moore is too generous in describing the 

brought about by his illustrious prcdeci 

"brifliant." Passing to other suljects, 

upon a MS. of 1482, on which is inscni 

prayer for Gemld the Earl, Lord Justice of 

land, who bought this book for twenty cows." 

book was highly valued by a lal«r poasesao 

wrote upon a blank leaf, *' Charles Hickey 

true possessor of this book, and, if it be 

pray God return it home again, 1680," ' 

Lilmm, which la divided and subdivided accordii 

to the parts of the flower, there is an acoot 

the incubus, or, as we should say, nightmare, 

this cure for it : — 

" First of all, the person to whom this Is wont to< 
l<;l him have ii beloved companion who will 



hewta h\m ^mkin}^ like crying, &nd whft will 

e« ■odbiiMfHlfl stn^ni^ly, fttid will »prtiikli< his 

Mti wttttt Mid wilj give an emetic and dian- 

fi^tk ^ aiaabn, ftud in such cue it nmy La 

that tkurv i* ftlwajs some PjUde^ who wHl 

ito' kccouiits epilepsy as mrely curable : 
■U 1^ lo tb&t when patients come to you 
tnid £^|pncin^ juurselTOA by empty and un- 
!■• of Cluing epilep«y, because crery epikpty 
' wilh great difficulty , if at alL" 

tie other simples of Bemardus's spirit, 
c tliifikjt tb&t his " observant gUnce wua 
obaenred by the hypothe»<es engrained 
ai." Johnof bad(le3den,aa Engli«hnmn, 
imry with BemarduB, haa some truths, 
» now truisms. Among them are bis 

to be loosd. and if thou wiihest to 
:h, lUi«e from tbyieir the heavy care, and be- 
lt ii Idle for tbct to wax wroth ; And spftt-o 
ad leave the supper ; Hnd it is not idle for 
ite aAer m«at, and to ahun mid day sleep." 

Ifae heavy care," black us ever, still 
eq[U%Um on his ride through life. It i» 
I work that ever killed jiny man, but the 
often attendinfr it, the heavy care which 
not raiBe from off his bretist. 
|s ftB siiigiilar a trait as may be found in 
festLD^ essay is the one which refers to 
Dttinnthsliebhea :— " About the year im> 
tied in the district now called the barocy 
Docrenan, and became the bereditiiry 
m of the O'DonnellSj chiefs of Tyrconnell. 
ten years ago, when in Kilmacrenan, I 
lat some of the Mac Duinnthslit?l»hes were 
-^ »i -./♦ Hereditary chiefs have passed 

ly it be said? of the system of 

ians ! 

jiirks that some of the mediieval 
^ ■ — L J themaclvea with singular queji- 
;ne discussed how it is that a man will live 
tn bad food than on no food at all. ^' It is 
intrary to lo^ac," he thinks ; " but yet is 
. on Kootl authority to have been proved 
lentally." This reminds us of the Greek 
early school-days, — of the groom who tried 
a horme alive without fooil, and who wa*. on 
^ of succeeding juat as the perveis^e aninml 

Hpbical sketch of the late Dr. Peter Mere 
^y Sir Thomas Watson, Bart,, ia written 
symmthetjc spirit. It concludes with these 
— " be had outlived nearly all his contem- 
U Two yet ri^niain . . . Sir John Coleridge 
Solh of Ui, indeed, are now stranded 
rowing sands of time." Only one 
'Bince the above was written Sir 
Coleridge has pussed the harrier which 
Ifae two great mysteries— the Here and the 



'* The frost looked forth one still clear night." 
OnKinally fromi a volume cblled Btauti/ul Pottry^ 
compiled by Mrs. Coxe. Printed anonymoaflly in tno 
jast piibltsbed Philipa's SetectioJk of P'o€trif for Stan- 
dartU /r., v., V/., compiled by S. W., edited by Canon 
Cromwell, p. 48. C. F. 8. Wauicek, M.A. 


la the first line of a poem, entitled TU FroH, by Mita 

Hetty P. 

Is this not an indistinct remembrance of— 
*' The fox went furtb, one mon^nsbiny flight. 

And he prayed to the moon to give him good li^ht "t 
If «o, ofie verainn of the so-called Cornish song may be 
found, as TU Fixx*t Foragintj Tour, in '* N. k Q /' 1" S. 
X. 371. Another and shorter verBion occurs in J. O. 
Halliwell-Pbillipps's .Vurifrj^ fthymtt of Kinjlo nd, cxxxlii. 
p. 84. I have often heard the song in Yorkshire. 

J. W» E. 

Molash, by Ashford, Kent. 

" And wouldVt thou reach, rash scholar mine, 
Love's high unruffled state ? 
Awake I thy ea«y dreams resign, 
First learn th^e how to hate." 

Dr. J. IL Newman, IVri«i, No. xxi. 
'* AnJ what I am beheld aji^nin 

What is, and no man understands ; 
And out of darkness came the hands 
That reach thro' nature, mouldintt men." 

/i* Mtinoriamt sec. cxxiv. ed. 1870, 
William Ttas, 
*' Be good, sweet maid, and let who will be clever," he, 
— Charlc* Kingsley, A FareveUj PoemM, Macmillan, 
1872. p. 210. T. W. C. 

Printed also In Un, Alexsndor* 5«ftfZay Poetry, 
No. ciiL 8ce also Tvo iV<tr« Af/o, p. 353. 

C. F. S. Warreh, M.A, 

*' Angels, ever bright and fair." 
They are from " Tb*<idorm," a very early prodticticm of 
Handel's, if nut ]]l« til St. FkeI'K. RtLE. 

The words are, I think, by Gay. F, 

*• I cannot^ Lord, thy purpose see." 
Ascribed to Sir John Bowring. Two verses (] the whole 
poem) will hft found tn the well known Uttle bu«k, GoM 
of SiicrtU Poeiry (Religious Tract Society), last article. 


" They dreamt not of a perishable home," 
begins th<? third of William Wordsworth's three " Eccle- 
fiift*^ticftl Sonnets *' devoted to description of the inside 
♦if King's Collcise Chapel, Cimbridno. These three are 
niirol»cnsd 33, 3*. ^f», in the third ptrt, pubtishcl in 
l82-i, the advertisement being dated Jimuarv 24. Se« 
vol. Iv. p. aoa, edit. 18I(J, Poetical Wortt of W, Wordjt- 
wttTth. J. W. E. 

Molttsh, by Ashford, Kent. 

'* Forgivr*, ble»t Hhade." 
An epitaph in Bradinf? Churchyard, t^le of Wiichl; iaid 
to be by the Kev. John Gill, curate of Newohurcb. 

C. F. S. WAaaan, M.A. 
The words are set to music by Dr. Calleott. 

FttKDS. KvLl. 
Tt ifl given m Legh Richmond's jiwaait oftht Poor, 
•• The Young Cottager/' p. 242, edit 1828. 

H. Bowxa. 
The linea will be found in A'ew Settclion of Hymn f /or 


■ * 




the Uk o/SckiXili, pttblifhed by William Olipbant, Edin- 
bunek. They were composed in Sept€mber» 1795. 

I hare seen tbii epitaph attributed to Mrs. Anne 
gteele. Hermevtrui^e. 

It n»y bo found in No. *3 of Novello'a Mn^iCcU Timu. 

J. W« ls< 

MoImU, by Aflhford, Kent. 

The Bay of Ou Fungal, of the Duke of Wellington, 
was by the preMOt Dean of Clachester, the Very Rev. 
J. W. Burgon. B.D. C. P. E. 

Mrs. Swifte, the widow of our late correapondent, 
whose loea ia fouch regretted, vrrites ;— " I wish to 
fiorreot an error in the articio which you were kind 
enough to insert in * N. h Q.' rclaling to my dear hus- 
band, the late Edmund Lonthall Swifte. It we« thii :—l 
ttated tbut bis grnndfathor, Deane Swifte, of Castle 
'Bickard, county Mcath, andi of Worcester, was the 
fwpAew of the Dean of Hi- Tatrick's. Xot so : they vne 

following cutting from the Standard of the lUh inst^ is 
worth prcBciving in "N. k Q.";— "The death of M. 
B.enandeau d'Arc, a descendant of the Joan of Arc 
family, i* announced from Rouen. He was run over by 
» cart, and received iojuneBfrom which he expired after 
& few days' suffering. He bad long been in bad health, 
and went to Rouen to follow a special medical treat- 
ment The fatal uccident occurred in the Rue Jeaniie 
d'Arc. The deceased was chief engineer to the town of 
Gien." Bee 1" S. ■?iL 296; and Lu^wer'a Pfftron»/niic<x 
Briiamtiea, under ** Lys.'* H. S' G. 

KiRGiKO THJ; CuKPEW.— The Launcoaton Town Council 
has resolved to diBcontinue this old custom, for which 
two guineas annually used to be paid. 


^atini to Carrr^|»0iilTrttttf. 

Os all communications should be written the namesnd 
uddrese of the sender, not neoes^rily for publication, hut 
•I a goarsnteo of good faith. 

ABTKiUQS. — Mr, Thorns, in his lAingevU^of Man, doea 
not asiaina "any limit of human life," and fumiwhea 
BCTerat cases where it has been extended hojirnnd the 
century, as in the instance of Mr. Liming, who lived 
lOS years, one months &nd nine dajij. .Mr, Thoms's 
" Canon on Centenarianifra ** waa publiahcd in Lhe TiTms 
of April *2, 1875^ and is as followa :— " The age of an 
mdivtilual i« a fact ; nnd, like all other facta, to he 
proved, not inferred j to be established by evidence, not 
accepted on the mere a84erttoii of tlie ludlvldutU or tho 
belief of his fjieuda ; not deduced from his phyaicaJ con- 
dition if living, or from his autopsy if dead ; hut proved 
by the register of his birtli or baptism or aorae other 
authentic record ; and in proportion as the ai^o claimed 
is cxoeptionally extreme, ought tho proof of it to be ex- 
ceptionably strong, clear, and irrefragable," 

D. BouLOKii,— **' Molicro quelquefoifl consultait fia 
servante/ a dit le superbo auteur do La Mtlromaiiu, 
d'apri-a la traditinu,"— See "Supplement h la Vic do 
WoUere," by M. Bret {(Euvra de MoKire, 8 vols., Lon- 
don. 180f«). The old servant's name to whom Piron, the 
author of La Mttromajiit^ refers was Laforest, To her 
the French poet read his eumio scenes, in order to judge 
of the effect they might have on tho cinaa of puhiic to 
which she belonged. Wo are not aware of any similar 
tradition conceminji? Montaigne, whose assays would 
hardly bo underatood by an old servant. 

A. E. D.— Tickell (1686-1710) wrota a poem oi 
sington fiardeos": — 

" Each walk with robes of various djes b«apfil 
8eeme, from afar, a morin^: tulip>Ded, 
Where rich brocadea and glossy damaalca gr< 
And chintz, the rival of the shuwery bow." 

S. CauwiniiR —Sholto and Reuben Percy, Br< 
the Benedictine Monastery of Mount Bengrcr, "% 
a«Rumed names of Thomas Byerley and Josephr' 
Robertson, the compilers of the Percy A^n4cdt4 
• * N. & (J„" 1« S. vii, *iU. 

C. H. P. asks:-" What is the best metboj 
adopted in cataloguing a large library ! " I*rep«i 
will be forwarded. , 

F. R. D. — The 31st of December, 1799, 
last day of the bist year of tho erghtfcntb 
that day of tho December of ISiXi was; the 
therefore, does not esiit. 

GERiiANicrs.— See the A nnah of Tacttna,,] 

Edmcno Tkw.— Next week. 

C. H. P.^With pleasure. 

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' ' ' : ' irr.— 

ij1-'' iJiL- L"uii<! t,t Kirk- 

t ««» Fo«ind«f, 176 -The 

■'iij. iV.'.' Kxecutioncr of 

m— HeniMic 

hell*— UolD 

h9 Ai>ei 



HRnxin made the ac']unmtaDce of Lord 
Pisa in l'^ -21. and in the year of Lord 
itttli (1824) bu published a book, en- 

nHoau of liord Bjron, noted dariniir a Eeii- 
till Lnrd§hi{> at Pim, in the Ycftra 1S21 &nd 
rUoniu Moil win. E«q,, nf the 24 th Light 
ulhor of Ahtuvimt tht WuHderer." 
t hiiviti;]; thrown into my way the fol- 
1 -which I think will be fotmd 
ning Cuptain Medwin's subse- 
vuiurc to send it to *' N, & g.;* 
appear from the Convtnationa 
Modwia WU3 married or not nt 
with Lord Byron ; but if he wiis 
ifiil, he must have married very 
itt tho ehier of hi3 two children, 
ive, i* thought by my informant, an 
mi Siena^ to be more than fifty years 
ife, 'M apiiear* from her menioriul- 
leh I hftve before me, was a Baroness 

....^,.1 „.^..u ftre like oars, only the in- 

■ mi gtnorallT on our tomb- 
ai oai's do,ttnt) if <"irmf'iiTi*cd 
;lar itwtjiiiiK- .31 

. or little 

^.,^. ^.. ...J tbe iujB^- -- _ i i< 

liuit HOC gtnerally the csae. 

Hamilton,* and bom in London ; but how she 
uanie to have the foreign title of Boroneas I am 
unable to make out.f There were two dau;^ht€ra 
born of the marriage, and when they were still 
quite young (bambtne, to use the Italian lady^s 
expresaion), Captain Medwin, hiiving got deeply 
into debt, ran away, and was never seen or heard 
of again. Fortunately, his wife was n great 
favoiirit© at the Court of the then Grand Duke of 
Tuscjiny (the Court, of Lorraine, as it was called), 
and the Grand Duchess took charge of the two 
little girl*, and had them carefully educated in a 
convent at Florence. Some years afterwiirds, the 
wife of a rich Italian nobleman, Count Fieri of 
Siena, being in want of a young lady who could 
l>e a companion to her, as she waa childless and 
becoming; blind, and tuiting a fancy to the youn^'er 
Miss Medwin, induced her to come and live with 
thcra, and she accompanied them to Sienu, and 
remiiined with them probably for some years. 
Before .^he left Florence, however, it i& said that 
the Grand Duchess had pointed out to Count Fieri 
that the young lady would have much less chance 
of finding a suitable husband at Siena than she 
would at the Court at Plorence, and that the 
Count, therefore, promised to find a husband for 
her. However this may be, there in no doubt that 
he ultimately did find a husband for her, a 3Iar- 
chese Nerli, and by him she hns six children, five 
sons and one daughter. The Marquis was himself 
rich, and Count Pieri,t being childless, left him all 
his posfses-^ions, on the condition that he should 
adopt his mime and title, and at the present time 
the Conte Fieri Nerli has two palaces (I mefln, of 
course, Italian pahizzi) and five or six large estates. 
The elder daughter made a good though a 
less brilliant mutch, for her husband's father waa 
Cinmd Chamberlain to the Court of Tuscany, and 
she has two sons. 

It is evident, therefore, that Captain Medwin 
did the beat possilde thiii^ ho could do for his 
family when he ran awuy from them, and it in 
certjiinly remarkable that the descendants of a 
runaway English cavalry officer, who went to Itidy 
merely for the benefit of hm health (op. cit,^ p. 1), 
should become Itidlian umrquiHes and counts. I 
need scarcely say that his two daughters are 

♦ The iDHcription on the card runs as foIJows : "Anna 
Medwin iinta Bar<>nPMa HumiUufi osempio di affetto 
matcmo di abacgtizinne di r^rtc nnimo di religione di 
carrt^ n»cquc in Lon<iFa il xxti Febbraio mdcclxxxvih 
luori in i^iena il xxviii Uiuj^no Mi»rciictxv[ii frale braoci* 
dellc tlkflie Catcrinn Arriubi l^nnchetta Cuntefisn. Pierii 
Nerli dei*'>lati*3inje. " Tbore arc no rtop* in tho origina], 
»nd I have put nune. 

f Pnfsibly slio mny h&ve hefm a Ijiwly Hamilton, and 
the BaronQCjJx wni cgn«idcred a« sumo aort at equiv&lont 
for tho Lifcdy. 

I Ho i* pcnemlly culled *'Cont« Pitri," thottgh be 
hi4«eelftmtur.illy prefers hii uwu ort>;ijiftl title vf Mat- 
che«Q Ncrii, which he, of count, %VvV\\iQVt. 



[s'^s. V. Fo^aa;' 

thoroughly Italian, though they both of them 
know Englitth well, and are luindful of their 
EngLinh origin. F. Chai^ce. 



L In the itereotype edition of John Foster's 
celebrated essay, On a ^fan'^f iLritinff Matwirs of 
Himsdf^ we read as followa :— 

•• On the review of a cfaamoter tbus (irown* in the 
cicluBbn of tlio rehtjicuft infhience* to the nature and 
ncrbapH uUmiatc stnU', the nenliruent of pioui benevo- 
lotiee v?ouJJ be,— I regard you ua an object of ;zr^at com- 
paui&n, iDilesii there can be no felicity in frieacUiiip 
with llii? Aloiiglity, UTilcsi there b« no glury in ht'm^ 
ttf»imihite<l to Im excellence, unl®BB there be no eteniu) 
rewardu for his devote'I M!r»i*nt8f unlets there bo no 
danpcer in meeting him at long^th, after % life etttnmged 
equally frujKi his love and hii fear/* 

Thts word '*7iiiture" should be "mature." The 
beauty of a fine paaaa^e is thus ?adly marred by 
the omifiston of a third part of a letter. 

2. At the end of bin eloquent " Sketch " of the 
eminent politician, William Windhaiu, Lord 
liroitgharapiit together the nineteenthand twentieth 
iind the sixty-aeventh and aixty-eightb linen of 
Ovid'H Elegy on Tibuliiis {Amormn, lib. iii, el. 9), 
with an admirable translation, aa follows : — 
"Scilicet onriTiO sacrum Mors importuna profanat, 

Omnibiift obeciirAfl injicit Hit muim»— 
Oi*i«a qiiiela, precor, tutu re(|uieBc:ite in nrnA, 
Et HiL LumtM cinen Don onorota tao ] " 

'* Iti'lcntUas dentil each jnirer fitrm profanes, 

Koiimd all that '* W%r bia difiiiial anna hv tlirowi— 
Li^^bt lie the earth that sliiroudl^ thy lor^rd remains, 
And ioftly alunibering may they tiiatc rept>se ! " 

The sketch of Wiadham (" WeathtTcocl; Billy " 
my father uaed to csdl bim) was first printed in the 
Edtnhiirgh Jieviav for iJctobcr, 183S (vol. l.icviii,), 
and has npj:>eared, without correction, in idl the 
tuitions of Lord Brougham's Uistoriad Skitdas of 
Stalismen. "When writioj; his translation. Lord 
Broupjham waa probably thinkioi^% not of the pale 
troddesa present to Ovid'a inuigioation, but of the 
'*Kinj^ of Terrors" mentioned by Bildnd the 
Shahite in the Book of Job (chap, xviii. v. 14)^ 
or, more probably still, of the fiublime description 
of Df-aih in Foraduc Lost (which his lordibip h;td 
applied with svieh terrible effect to Geor^^e 1V» as 
the unproduced prosecutor of (Jueen Caroline). It 
IB strsinge, however, that his lordship should have 
RO misquoted Ovid as to make Death ft mininr in 
the first line nitd ifiasculinf in the seroitd^ and that 
this error should not have l>een noticed by the 
editor of the Kdinhurffh IUvuil\ or by any person 
concerned in any of the numerous editions of Lord 
Broughaui'd SUiiejtmen of Uu Time of George III. 
Of course, the "illc" in the second line should be 
**illn/'and the niisprint may have been attribut- 
able, in the first instance, to had penmanship. 

3, I am sorry to add tlut the misprinta in what 

is called the collect«d edition of Lord Brouf 
works are very numerous. The following ext 
gives two of the moat preposterous : — 

"Jobnion n^Tcr would have dared to make 
tfttuiLation a« Dryden'a ef 

* Altoa 
Depeiiste omna epotaque flumlna Medo 
* RiTere, whote depth no sharp beholder i 
Itrinl: up an armj's dinner to the lee«.'" 

Here both the Latin and the English 
nonsense. ^^ DepcrtMic omnc^ " should be ". 
avLUcSy" and *' i>rt«^ i(^> '' should be " 
These blunders could not be accounted 
bad handwriting only, and there must bate 
extrotno negligence to retain them through 

4, The illustrioua Funck himself is 
faliible, and has too much wit and ho 
pretend to be so. In his? loving; notice ofj 
Lemon, on June 4» If^TO, Punch thus mi 
the Mtirquesa Wellcsley a beiiutiful epitmiphl 
Broagbani, which ia now on the st 
Lincoln's Inn Chapel :^ — 

" I, pete ciElegteSj uid nulla e«t cara, recessoii 
Et tibi flit, nuUo mihta lalore, quie»," 
The word ''hthorc'' should have been "i' 
and the altemtton is the reverse of an 
ment. Mark Lemon believed in the 
wurk, and never could have supposed 
happiness of heaven woidd consist in idlei 
vacancy, or having nothing to do. 

Geoegr 6i 

9, The Terrace, Taristock Koad, Weatboumo 

Moat people have heard of the '* fairy pi| 
(tailed in Ireland, which the pptide ocatfi 
turns up in the cottager's garden in most 
England. These curious objects are 
forms of tobacco pipes that had been 
jected, like the fsiihires of poor Be.iu Brot 
or else had served their turn, and been rut! 
thrown aside like an old clipper. It is et 
that nearly all the *' ancient chiys " thus dr 
are broken in stem or bowl ; rarely can yoa 
with an entire bowl and an unshortened st 
the same specimen. The following case, it willi 
seen, is therefore quite exceptionaL Souie ' 
yeara or more ngo I was living in a Shi 
^rish, that stretched along tlie ridge of * 
rock which looka down upon the valley 
Severn. There were in this place fiuarri<^ 
capital grey building stone, sound and 
and, frmn this source^ the stone used for W|| 
Cathedral was generally extnicted. I am 
pared to say that the original stmeture i»j 
Permian stone, but certainlv, in the later 
and restorations, for several centuries, the i 
rials were dmwn from these quarries. As f- 




n,oii« ef the qoarries bid been last 

0L* B< U «f SQcb a cAthedml restoration, 

ar^iOmreago; nm], after the .stone 

id,li»Jftboarera, as UAual, bad filled in 

J lilh the ariiAller etones and rabble 

b tltt BAtoml face of the mck. In 1865 

ij VB8 reopened, in order to get out 

iniUiDg a school 'housef when the work- 

mmii^ the old d^hris^ and elearin^r it 

*» fik» of the ori;i^ioal working, found , 

is the roek, a little niche, and on the 

ill^^i^mall clay tobacco pipe, with, I 

t hiftp of du3t nloD^idc it, which, v;e 

wtt WM once tobacco ; for it would 

Uw poor Shropshire qunrryTnan, now 

eio dost, bndf in his haste, unwittinLrlj 

poothing companion, und now here lay 

pipe," on the very spot where the owoer 

to be a common practice with miners 
thua to hew ouli a handy place in 
Oth to hiy down their pipe and itlno to 
fd the ttnununition, within reach. The 
uer always cots out with liis pick :i 

herein to place his pipe when not in 
lere are proverbinl sayings common in 
ith reference to this cuatom. The 
I, for instance, says "a tooeh-pipe is as 
iBSl," that is, having recourse to what 
Itenhire man calls " a draw " now and 
lort snatches from his work-time- But 

the lost pipe. The chiirchwanlen of 

well-to-do yeoman, who WiW blessed 
•rown*up daujihteifc, on whom he hnd 

expensive schooling of the Manjj^all 

ind, broU|j;ht the pipe to me, und cer- 

b a neat flpeciraen, quite perfect, the 

correspond in j; to the earlier forma itf 

on the ample butt, made for the pur- 

ending it on the table, bowl upwards, 

tera impresieed I.M. The church w:ir<len, 

I, on bringing me the curious article, 

'' Our Mary Ann, sir, tells me that thitt 

be less than a thousand yeara old ! '' 

|>w does your daughter make ihjit out ? " 

,Well, Bir, she says that the I. always 

^oe, and the M. for a thousand yeurH." 

ie meek observation that I wai not 

( tobacco had been in nae no lonj^' in 

Wft» allowed to keep the little pipe j 

B moment it la hanfjint; upon the wall 

f with other curiositie-*. It h a good 

ve clay of about 25n years iigo, and 

he initial letters stamped on the butt 

the maker's name. It nmy be Jamea 

have come from a Broseley pipery ; 

Teoture to say subject to the cor- 
»ny who are knowing in tbia branch of 
Perhaps some correspondent, with a 
the*e old ** fairy pipes,'- will be kind 

enough to say whether I am far out in my conjec- 
ture as to the date and residing. F, S. 




{Coniiniud from p. 123.) 

Lad if, — " Celui qui ii*a point d« hid^f avec lui eqt 
envoy (i dans 1« wA^^on de» homTne» [djiria les cheminH de 
fer dea Etats Uiiis)." — L. SimoniD, he, ciL, V Avril, 
1875, p. 5<33. 

Land'lord,—Bee al mlL 

Littitude-maji. — " Soup^otinSs par lee puritains de oon- 
nWence kvec les prelativtoj, let ^aliY«{2ii-?n«n ne farentpas 
mieux vur dci pirtisunB de la hnnte ^glise triurnpbante 
aroc loe Staart« reataar6s." — A. Rcrille, loe^ cxt., 15 Aoiit, 
1875, p. mj. 

i^adtr, — " II prit rang de httdtr, de chef politiqae/' — 
Th, Bcntion, ioc. at.. 15 Mar«, 1875, p. 330. 

LtiXfhrthip — •* II [M. GIftditone] a rdsigne son Imder- 
thip, BCfl foiictiona dechcf de roppoei^ond«a>ti«chBinbre 
dea communefl, et un tel uacrifice a dQ lui couter/*— /ie- 
vue due Deux Monda, V Juillet, 1875. p. 202. 

Ltading-ariklt.—^' J'iicf\% des rapports do plusieurs 
fcutlka, neta et ronds commo des Uadinft-artid^M, et »», 
Bprci le* aToir las, Mant^uffel y compTeii'l p'mtte, il est 
plui fort qae moL"— Biimarck, quoted bv J. Klaciko, 
DtMr Chanctlitrt; JUv. da Deux Mondis, 15 Jain, 1875^ 
p. 7f.8. 

Lfcturfr. — " Si Ton salt ee raettre k leur nireau, animer, 
C-HAjiiT la conference, comme certain* ffcturfrt sarent si 
blen le faire, les enfans ecoutent nrtc plamr.'* — ^L. 
Simonin, ioc. cit., T Janvier, 1875, p, 8iX 

Loafifr.—" Lea Tovdiex, Its loa^ftrJi, les pick-piteiets, les 
coniiaiB«ent Lien flea drtrctivex], et ceax-hi les cannaisaent 
encore mieur."— id. ihid., p. 72, 

Lohbyinmt, — *' Biea tju'on raccute tout ba« d'allares un 
pea Itbres etqu'elle 8oiit soupfjoancc do luf>bi/umf,...LiiMte 
voit lea pr^tendana afiluer uutour d'^Ile.'*— Tb. Bcntzoo, 
Ioc, at, p. 337. 

Liihbyttte.—** Ces courtiers mules et femcllcs, ces 
lancfurs d'aflairefi^ ce^ intermediaires qu'on uppelle des 
iohf'vistfa (cfmlissiera)."— Id. ihid , p, 333. 

Lotiffi nghtyuAe.—*' Des ce moment, )a 'logo de Faltoa,* 
— c'e»t niofii qu'on aYsit baptisw familii>rem"ntlo iod</iiM- 
houif crtl dans la rue de ce nnm [New-Yurk], — i;taJt 
fondce." — L. Simonm, he. ciL, V Jan¥., 1S75. p. t>6. 

£(>i7'Aoia<',— " Arrivi: k dcstvnatiiin, on carapait sous 
une cahute de troncs d'arbren, tc tofi-k'tntf, eC Ton se 
niettait a ilefricber et a semer." — Id. iljid., V Avril, 
1675, p. 555. 

f^ofj-hut—" hti fiimfe du hg-hut^ ceite ruitique cUa- 
delle du colon, sY'leTaiit, & la place dea feux ^V bWoaac, 
au-desBUS des for£ts de k Floridc» annon^U a peine le 
retour de la pair."— Camte de Paria, toe, cit., V Juillet, 

1874, p. 18, 

L*»^ncht(tneT,— " yion chcr Dickeng, nous aonimes en- 
cliantds de votre retoar. Vcnci, thuHk G&i, Devojishire- 
Place resstt§ctt<5, Veoei lunchwntr demain A une heure, 
et aroenex voire braro ami Forster. "— Comte d'Orsay, 
(jtmted hy lu Bt>ucher, HfVM do Deux Mondct, 1' Mars, 

1875, p. 114. 

LuHfhtr (Littrc gtvet the word in the " Supplement," 
but without exftmple).— "II fsut, au aortir du etude 
rd'fi!pht!«e], remonter dsns I'odieux wagon, apn>» avoir 
Innchi avi'C du pttlt alt obex un juif ank-hiis.' — E. Mel- 
cbi*ir de Voglie, ioc. at.. 15 Janvier, 1S75. p. 331 

Mac-frrtane—'^U entr* par la porto de Saint- Denis, 
caohant sous un uacferlane soa brti en £charpe et aon 



ii»»IL f.V 

ruban do la medwUe militaire."— A. IIoufl«>ye, L'Arti&ur 
dmi4 la Moti; Aux Al^iicicns et aux Lorraina : L'Of- 
Iratxlc: im'* 1* Socicte dc9 Gcgb do Lettres, p. 133. 
Pftria, IS73, 

J/(r*7actn«.— ** H [lo romna]...BeB;lLise cbez le pnurre 
I0U3 In forme d'une mngftzine a un demi-penny.'* — 
OdysFC-Barrot, /oc- «r#V , it. i'll. 

Maiden »p««ck.—" L<p» Bailiooia eux memea nenrent 

f)ati d'autre nom pour lui [der tutl^! Bitmarct] pendant 
ontrteTtips, pendant toute In pcdode parlenientaire du 
jeuiie depute dc la Marclic, depuis son maifititupetck et 
Bft premiere appuritioa ii la trioune/"— J. KlaczJEo, he, 
inf., p. 751. 

Manor.— "CitaiM iur la rive gauche de rFTuJfon que 
ft'etendaientccs vnstes doiniiincf ou nianuyfy don grncicux 
du fjouverncui^'Ttt de la mctropole aux pluntcursvenusde 
ax loin.*'— L. Sinionm. he. ctL, V Avril, 1875, p. 557. 

AfftUtr.—*' Nommczmoi magter Siuitbs^m, c'est edod 
pfleudonyrae pour le quart d'lieure."— A. Rtvillr, Reduc- 
tion do Lit Major Frons, pur ^\me. Bi.i«lio<im Touisaint, 
tL : Rrv. fles Vtux Mojidi,*, 15 Juillef » 1875, p. 284. 

Maitrr of farL—" Cher, les cordrmniers, il y a deux 
locioles co-operatirca de production, dont Tune date de 
1870; inaiB i« dele|,;uc de ce corj>9 d'etat.,. a tnnuvf que, 
daoB un rapport de plufl de 100 piige*, cca inoffers fjj fact 
ne m^^ritaicut ]^m plus dis troi» lii^es."— P. ter.jy- 
BEsulicii, /?rr. des Dtvx Mouden, 1' Jiiillet. IST.'i, p> lllf*. 

MtdijiT} (Littrc Kives the Tvord, witli this limited and 
incomplete dcfiiiititm :— " Mot artglaia qui fe dit d'tine 
K'uiiion popnlairo avant pour objet de discutor sar une 
question politifpie"). — *' Se« utttiquts furent 'liriK'-e' «ti 
mrticulier cotilre le« ■m.eelingt ile uictliodiet***."— Edwnrd 
EgKleston, Le PredicoUnr Atahtttttut, n. ; Ii£v. t/cj Deux 
Monde*, I' Octobre, 1S74. p. tiSS.— *' Les mtefifigt du 
ditnanche sotit plus flori^Rans que jamais.'*— L Suuonin, 
he. HI., Y ATfil. 1875, p 79. 

Jf/nw/r^/,— " Nombre d'autres rtb6iltre*, a Ncw-Yorlt], 
oil Ton joue le driane et !a comtdii-, tpmni des minftreU 
ou m&netriers, traveatis *cu nt^jreti d'Etbiopie/ u'y 
cic£cuti:nt pns Icurs dannei de canictere et n"y ohantent 
pM Icurs trnditionnelleB chanwinnettcs."— L. Siinunin, 
he. at, V Deccmbre, 1^74. p. «70. 

Mutre^ (Littrc baa wiXfij*) — " Mi&tre88 Gamp, dont 
le nom nc pent pUii ae prononcer qu'ii travcra uu eclat 
de rire." — Ij. Boueber. he. ciL, p. 111. 

Moneif-makinff, — *' Un pajfl o6 loa fcnction* politique^ 
lei plu.* <^minente« Bont si la meroi du premier venu, 
poumi qu il ait vm^Bi datis Ic monty-nmininj, la chaase 
aux doUars.*' — Th, Bcntznn. hr. rU.^ p. {543. 

Mound,— **Ct9 movndf iiitmen«c9, ce« tunnilnn fun^- 

laim [d'Am^rtquel, qui tee alaiss^s?'* — L. Simon in, 

loe, ciL, 1' Ami, 1S75, p. 556, 

Ntvttpaper.^** Cch petits vendeara de jDumaui qu*on 
trotiire p»rtout nux Et»t«-UniB, monttrent d-ms le train 
et rib rent noufl rend re lea ntwtpapeti parua a rinstant." 
—h, Siniontn, /of, ctf » p. 578. 

NohUman.—" On ka rencontre tres-sourent en Eu- 
rope, ce8 Americaincft cchcvekea de louest. Ellci 

tratoent derru-re ellfs kurs parens, la ni^re traniform^o 
en line duegne bonaRMe, le pere ea uu n<^Uman d'ap- 
poral." — Id. ihid., p. 566. 

Ohjuctfonafilt.—*^ L'auteur d'un dea esBaSs lea plus oft* 
jectioRahU [dea Kuayt and Revitiux, d'Oxford» 186CI] 

n'^tait autre mic rex-me-principal de Lampeter [How- 

land William*]."'— A. -- - - -- - 

p. 883. 

RtviUe, toe. c$t., 15 Aoiit, 1875, 

Oiii/«tr.~" Dc8 outlaws, qui gait, inainua Yocajse."— 
E. d'Hervilly, Conks pnifr U* fJrauda Pfr.wjin<ii,p.2S0; 
FariiJ. Chnrpenticr, Ii<74.— " Quimd la cbr£'tieat6 entii&re 
deniandait la poix atix IVlusulmans, ces outlaw^ [lea 
ZaptirojiFued]^ abandon Bcs de tons, continnaicnt la (ruerrf /' 
— A.]3^imhekU.<l,IiiV.dts Leujc MondtifV Jmo, lS75,p.&17. 

Pah a/f.-^" Uae bouteille de paU n-' 
Ycddo 1 fr, 25 cent, m*a eio vendue ik [ 
ti*\itn] Hfr 75 cent."— G. Bousquet/ A< 
Moiidts, V Janvier, 1875, p. 214. 

Patroon. — '* Quand il a fallti fixer avec lef,<l 
de ccB paUtfrniii fpremierft concession nairca wr^ 
icauche de riJudftun] left liiiiiteM tlu clmu)]) cnn« 
etc- ..unc Btiurce de d i IBcultea sans noiuhre." — L J 
he. ctL, 1' AvriL 1S75. p. 557. 

Pttynnal. — "Une des cariostt<!,'a de cctt'* fenil*^^ f 
XtMo York Htruld] annt lea ptrtonttlt qui 
premiere coloniie/' — Id. Hid., V Dec, 1 : 

Ptdjioclet—'* Frenm garde aux pick.. 
Hid., p. 680. 

Polictman,—" Fmpatnibles, Poeil kvol 
au tort qui fieut-'t:tr« les attend, leA potiermfi^x 
a¥ec xele cea dangcreux quarticrs." — l^. tftfiC, ' 
1875, p. 72. 

Puliticun. — " IJne inunicipalittj sana foi ^ 
a dans maintea roncotitres iinpudcniment ei 
yeiit des contribuables pour le partoger arW 
ticiens ' qui I'aTaiflnt nommi-e,"— Id. i^w/,, Vt 
p. <V77. 

/^oKfti/.— "Un indiridti ttant l6se par qu«l«[ 
ayntit oudque reclamation a aa charge pouraiti 
thL'tail du ctjiui-ci. et le couduirc dana une praif' 
rcserv^e & cet effet dana le village et appelic 
E. de LaveleyCt /oc. of., 15 Avril, 1S75, p 7i"i»» 

Preochcr. — " Le« meeUnQs ont lieu le aoirdai 
et le« ^^coles. On y ohnnte de.n eivntiquefi, pnia 
I'eatrade quolque reverend, ami dd la maison, on 
prtachtr renonime, aonvent encnro un enfant " 
a'adresBc h sea camarfidea dana une langiic mcU 
Ott ilaH^.^—U. i^inioiiin, h^*. at., V Janvier, 

Prrhtif(e.—'* Toute la littcrature th 
temps [ivi' et xvii' sieclea] ett nb^orb^e pur 
entre les catlioliqucs et Icb prntestans, pui 
prehtittef on partifiana de I'^pisc-'pat tra lirii'une** 
puritainf/' — A. Rerille, /ac c?t, 15 Aout, 1^75+ p. 

PiLfeisiue, — ** Lc pua^i'mie, obei«Bant a ?<»n pi 
eat devcnu ce qui s'appclle du nom trti'^itiaifi 
ritualiBmc."— Id. ibid., 15 Mnr^ 1875, p. *2HJ. 

PuictJitf.—^'Le p«rti pu<'6iBte rit Imn n(»nd»r«< 
adb^rena les plus distingucs passer avec armc.««if 
dana T^Use catholique/'— Jd. idid, 

Littr^ givea piisiymie tmd pii»fystt, li 

"Commo nJplique an pomtinsme irr^Ijgieax i 
nuliste, il y a le puflCTisme et le ritualiame, — J.l 
Rev. del iJtux Monda^ V Sept., 1874, p. 05. 
Hksri GAtlJ 
Ayr Academy. 


Mispronunciation op Ancien'T 
Names. — Many Scripfnnxl names are nowi 
tublished in wrong uceenfuution^^, tbut it w< 
bopf'lesa to attetnpt bringicjij them back 
original sUindiirds, ('. (f. DiiljOnih, Jt*rTcl»0| 
biiRi, Samarijij AlexundHa, Philiidelphla. 
adopted moefc of these popular pervei 
also wrote Dalllah :in«l Hiinipha, Heiicoi 
tion if li(j knew Hebrew. At Ipitst he 
ignorant or regard Ie.^.s of the Masoretic 
only sure guides to the c[mmtitiea af 
Many reudlera olfend grossly ia saying 
of SiiMoth." Archbishop Whately used 



wbo defended this on the 
ittmoke the people retjardGod 
d of tht &MMUli "I It wa«, I thi nk, the 
AD tleL4e 1i^^ rirnu'kiiig that such an 
iaovwd r. le an .adversarv, re- 

lfit««Bc' 1'^ ro throw at them, 

with mud. " A still more inex- 
in ** Aiphu. Hnd Omega," in it 
nd in Chambers*** Eitjmnlogiml 
14. Many years aj^o I Bucceeded 
attention to the practice (then 
Min^Hig ia the Ptialnis " the Moriuns* 
liod of Morifins* ^= Moors\ which cor- 
»j»w generally adopted. Milton, in 
"" ' " Areaces" in place of 

S. T. P. 

be extended to a ^trj trreat fength. 

ih« miffprutiunciation of H ypedoiu 

ifii?e PiilaiL, Re/uIuB, or Africa, ac- 

qo^ntitief. The fullanifi^ word^ are 

iex^ujplc'^ of Tui-i.r,.niiT)ciii.ti'»n in tbcir 

, (nvUi«, (Jpfttor, 

, Creduluji. lUiri- 

ij^at, ^\i riiiiiiiT!;-. jahprali-f, Fomil'l^i- 

Icrldicm, Crimjjuiri, Fjascivus. (.>ri;,'o^. 

idu*, BlM)n, Di«ciplln:i, Irrltftbili*, 

I, kc. The ciiir is sometiincs hurt at 

:Utton of Acumen, with the u shorty 

dug English mye, oa in Btrictneas he 

kiMfnc^ne. Caitbom boa become lavr in some 

Spells. — ^Not long «ince I had oc©i- 
Acribe for the Proper Authority some 
' marrii^'eit. In one of these the oth- 
lister had written the bride's name — a 
m Dfune — in the ae^vpted way, though 
with barely the ability to scrawl her 
ba4 spelled it in another fiuihion. A 
klftpsed, and I then received from the 
bO(ritjudo<.^nment drawing ray particular 
(> three statements : 1. How I could 
iie ditference in the spelling of the 
ie ; 2, To rectify the error ; 3. To be 
t not' to make such a mistake for the 
b« first of these statements wiw not 
rtKA ; for any one who has bad but a 
K^qllttintanoe with the subject will know 
pelling of proper miines, ei-pedally in 
I parwhes, is a problem beyond the 
averai;;e bmins. Within my own ex- 
cotta;^er's wife told the clero^yman of 
that she wished her baby to be chris- 
emmar.'' He gi]f,^jjcsted "Emm:i,'' 
she at once rejected the suggestion, 
it for him, letter by letter, " Hekmar," 
I it had always been spelled so '* in her 
Vhat is a clergyman to do when such 
liiid npon him^ especially if he writes 
" In the parish register, and the Proper 
»mes down upon him for his display 
«, and vdih the request that be will 

reconcile his epelling with the rulea laid down by 
the jiovernment school inspectors ] Thi» subject 
lA terribly sug;fjp,stive of sunie novel "Recreations 
of a Country Parson,*' It has been forced upon 
me, within the past few days, by the difficulty of 
spelling a certain p^irish loner's name. He is garoe- 

keepr to Lord , and his root her, who ha? 

died, at the aire of eighty-two, was the widow of a 
former parish clerk. Hih name is pronounced 
'* Wheelband " ; but, for the last five years, I have 
frequently «een it spelt " Wildband/' and have so 
written the word whenever I had occasion to trans- 
cribe it. When the mother of thia man died the 
other day, her name, in the usual certificate handed 
to the officiating clergyomn, waa written " Whel- 
born." Her huBband's DiUDe wos entered in the 
parish rejjister, in 1868, as "Wilboiirn," and en- 
i^raved on his tombstone as *' Wilband/' It is 
written thus in the parish register for 1817 and 
18<;2, In 18:!4, 1S27, and 1K3(), it appears as 
" Willband "' ; in 1h;}.3 and 1&G8 a^ *' Wilbourn '' ; 
in 1>^:):J and 1859 aa '* Whelbourn" ; and in 1855 
iij^ " Whelburn." In a marriage in this family 
the bride signed her name " Wilbourn " ; and h^r 
brother and sister signed, .is attesting witness^os, 
*' Wilband." The above instance is met with in a 
small rural parish of 173 inhabitantj*. 


SyrrF.-=I heard it lately observed that when 
GoldBmith wrote the well-known lines in Eetalia- 
tio7i^ in 1774,^ 

'' When they tatk'd of their BaphMls^ Corrcgioi, and 

lie Mhiftcd hii trumpet »nd only took tnuff,** 
—he must have had in bis mind Swift's poem, en- 
titled The Grand Qutstioji^ 1729, in which occur 
the lines^ 

" Your Nf^vod^, and Blutmki, and Omars, and stuff, Ufi 
liy U — they don't signify tbii pinch of Bniiff." 

It may fairly be asAuraed that in both these 
cases the writers really meant a i>inch of snuff ; 
but in the early part of the last century the word 
"snuff" was often employed to designate refuse 
or waste. Thus Swift, in the " IHahgiLe^ on Polite 
CnniTrmt ion jhy^imon Wagsttilfe, 1 738," represents 
Mias Notable as drinking a part of a glass of 
wine, whereupon Colonel Keverout says, "Pray 
let me drink your snutT" ; to which Misa Notable 
replies, "No, indeed you shan't drink after me, 
for you 11 koow my thoughts." A little earlier 
than this *' snuff " was commonly u>ed to express 
otfence or resentment. The following lines were 
written in 17n3, when the Queen desired the House 
to agree to a money vote in favour of the Duke of 
Marlborough ; and it was suggested that the Yigo 
prize money should be given to bim : — 
** The Queen a messaee to the Senate sent. 
To beg her Duke a ooone in pKrl'mment ; 
After a warm debate the House tfrew bold, 
And bid her pey her Dttke in Vigo Gold. 



5"" 8, V, Tk 

Tho* thii was tlionght confounded hard! hj tomt. 
To (fiTe to one vthwt t'other Duke brought home, 
Bulk brnke, it did appear upou plain prooff. 
The Gold Galloon had not bmught wealth enough, 
At which her Grace and Majesty— tooX' snulf.** 
The lust line here evidentlj uienna lliat both the 
ladies wore much otPeoded, Johnson defines one of 
the meaniogs of ** snuff" as " resent ruent expressed 
by snrfting,'* of whith he gives illustnitions from 
L'EsI range, "Jupiter took snufl' at the contetnpt/" 
and from Mulnchi i. 13, *' Behold whut a weariness 
it 13, and ye have snuffed at it.'* 

Edward Solly, 

TE^fXYHnx's " Ekocii Arden."— I have beon 
struck l>y tlie siuiOurity of sin observjition in the 
above pocju to a remark of Lnrti Ciirniirvon'ri in 
his Portugal ami Gallu'^M. It will be re mrirjbered 
that Annie, ufter her luarriaije with Philip, was 
much Hiihject to nervous tremors and melanchoij, 
" but/' says the poet — 

* When her child was bbm. 
Then her new cliild wu ms henelf renewed ; 
Then the new mother came about her hcnrt,^ 
Then her Rood PUiJip wa« hor all in-all, 
And ilmt u»y»tericiu9 instinct iiflrholly died " 

The ptusiSji;L;e in Lord Carnarvon is iw follows : — 
" A prior attachment sometimea continues to cxlf t in 
ft woman's mind lonK after inarria«t', but, except in n 
pcrsoi of Tery d<?ep]y rooted affVction^ riiirclr survives 
the birth of a cliild : from that hour the curri^nt of her 
thous^hts bec«iini's clmn^ed; new duties, new feeling*, 
new hopes, ariAe to bani^ih farmer regrets, and — 
She who lately lored the btat 
Forgots *he loTed at nil." 

I quote from the third edition, published in 1M4^^, 
c. ii. p, iiiJ. While speaking of ibis poem, I would, 
for the suke of iippendintj a query, point to another 
coincidence. While Ennch was on that *' be:iuteou« 
hateful isle," *' tlie lontliest it3 a lonely sea," once, 
•'Tho* fnintJy, TOerrily— far and far aimy — 
He heard the pealiug of hh piirish hells." 

Kinglake, in his chaninng Edthm (e. xvii.)? 
note* a like occurrence. He Imd fallen asleep in 
the desert, '* but, after awhile," he writer, 

"I was Kently awakened by a peaJ of church beP»— 
mynatlre Ik\U, the innncetit belU of Miirkn, that never 
hefore sent furl h iheirinuBJc beyond the Rlrkygon hillH. 
......I Wa9 well enough awakened: but atill tho^e aid 

MaHen bells ranj^ on, not rinRtng for joy. bnt properly, 

proMly, itcadilv, merrily, rii^King 'fi r cburt'h.' 5>ince 

my return to England* it has been tn2d mu thnt the like 
sounds fatiTc beL'u heard at si^a, liiid that the «ailnr 
bocalaiifd under a verticrd sun, in the mid-t of tie wide 
ocean, hut listened la trt'mblinjj wcinth-r to the chime of 

hii owu Ttllmiso bells I found that the day waa 3an- 


I should feel obliged for refereticea to any au- 
thentic ftccounU of such mysterious sounds. 


" La rROPRi^T^ c'est lr vol."— This expresMion 
18, I believe, usually attributed to Prudhoii, but in 
the Ch-ganvtation iht Tmvail, by Louis Blanc, 

which was published in 1848, is the 
passage : — 

*'Chirlei Fottricr a cm devoir formulsr 
bj3carrf!s et pe-u intelligibles lea id«?e» qtti es 
fund de son systeme. Vient un bndigeonnmi 
qui a'cmpMre du systeme de Fourier* I'expo 
style clitir, tiegant si Ton rent, et met le tm 
\o\i9 Toycz bien que, h cMv de Fourier qui ti 
faim, le badi^eonoerur •Vnrichera. Entetldlll 
tju'ett ce tjiie la propridtt f Ct*t U voi** 

Ralph N. 

Ashfordj Kent* 

Stmdolical Colours : Colour R 
Blue is the colour associated with faitt 
"true blue"; but I Imve read some' 
heanl it as.*ierted, that green is the real s 
colour of faithfulness \ it is Nature's oi 
and therefore must lit it true one. Perl! 
C'rrespondent of "N. & Q." will put me 
am wrong in this matter. It would be ii 
to know why lovers and other sentiruenti 
have such an antipathy to the colour with 
Nature would be robbed of all her bea 
alKo to know what circumstances gu\'e xii 
sayings as^ 

" CTreen 's forsaken, 

Yellow 'b forsworn ; 

Blue 'a tlie colour 

That shall (ormust) b« worn. 

" Vdlow. yellow, turned up with greei 
The u^liait colour that ever was Men 

Again, amongst certain sections of tl 
who in their green age write tender ant 
epistles tt> each other, a favourite rhytnc 
JiTd letter with is this : — 

"* If you tove me, lore me true, 
tSend me a ribbon, and let it be blue. 
If you bate ine, let it be seen. 
Send me a ribbon, and let it be green 

ve ni 



MoTriER-iy-LAw's BtiEATQ. — So the' 
in thiiJ part of Sussex call a sharp, bitii 
wind, known in Kent by the phrase " 
garmsey." At any rale, the Kentish p 
<|nite fiuniliar to my father, whose ** 
birth" was, that he was not « Kentish n 
" Man of Kent," which he always intei 
Ife parallel to the phrase ** a Hebrew of 
brews," inetining thsit he was no adl^ 
settler in those part.^, but that the tfi 
indigenous, nr spnmg from the soiL 1 
this because the subject has cropped up a 
among the suggestions the one referred 
has not been made. £. Cobkam Bi 

Larant, Chichester. 

" Marmalade."— Richardson gives an 
of this word from Tyndall. The foUowinj 
from EuphufK ami hu Enfjiand (ed. Arb€ 




{l!ui^rfi*«* ♦^«» nio'lern use of it after 
ipha«s would dye »f he 
mce in a day, and iher- 
inru leiive after every me ile 
with love, U5 with mam);t- 


eotrevpondenta deairing: information 
' imlj privftte intereat^ to &tfix their 
to their qaeriei, in order that the 
to them direct.] 

r ivn nniii vT.K, — HllS Utiy 0116 Called 

Mon tn the trefttment, hy 

ii <"l Eiiijraving (2nd ed., 

lira enj^raving of Aristotle 

iQ hi.H back? Mr. Jackson 

Ifbitetle If «id to hare been extremely 
; iiiid [tic'L and to have paiJ licr 
death ' [ta there any r<'ftiion for 
. ..J . . ^? a shadow of truth in thiti?], 
riMrtird. I believe, of her haviog amused 
ding oa her husband'a back." 

stibject WHS of course drawn from the 
<rjK«fof<', which ifi contained in :di 
IB <ot mediruvsil fafififiux, A history 
id is to bo found at page 279 of the 
of the collection edited by Lej^nmd 
i», 1S29, 5 vols. 8vo.), where, however, 
of the works of art founded on this 
ditor Ignores Burgkmair's tn^fravinfr, 
. .'-r.^of plficG to the paintinj^^ done 
.enteenth century, a hundred 

...^. :r. The lutter, in. his picture, 

role of the Dutch school to pny no 
I mi#t* <n ^cinc in legendary or mytha- 
jie, and gives ua aimply a Dutch pair 
tbcniiselvei in a rather sinj^ndar but 
tpro«chiiblo manner. Spmnj^^er, by 
other extreme, and niakiuf/ Orphale 
t nue, farott fort iinj^tdicre de se 
s Lej?rand *ays» does better justice to 
t scandalous subject. 


—I am deairoua to ascertain : 1. When 
[>mpiled hia Rdifimts Houses (hat Wfre 
%t the Time of ihe Ri'form/ition. An 
ope*» Minor Pradifh waa published 
ch has for an appendix an account of 
hoa«e^, but no date is ^iven ns to 
[ compiled. Of course it would be 
lope's PfadickA wua published, 
raa Sir Janiea Balfour Lyon KinNj-of- 
hen did he die / It is noted that he 
\ to Kin^ Charles I. and II. 

J. F. S. G. 

Silt E. PoRTESLMTE, the dcffodfr of Fort Charles, 
Salconibe, Devon, 1645-46, left a luanu'^cnpt giving 
ctrtiiin particulars of the siege. In Hawkins's J/w- 
lory of Kingsbri^ge ajid Sftkomhc is given u portion 
of this, and the descendants of 8ir E. ForteHcue 
posKesB a copy, about fifty years old, of another 
portion, but neither pretend.s to be a complete 
copy. Can any one tell lue where the original 
innnuacript is to be found f It is not in the 
British Museum or the Record Office, 

Paul Q. Karkeek. 

Museum, Torquay. 

Valuk of Land temp. Henry VTII.— It woidd 
be of great sert ice to me if any correspondent whose 
:tLtfntion ba-s l>een specially drawn to tlie subject 
would inform uie what was the value of land gene- 
rally in England, and in Gloucestershire pnrticu- 
Iiirly, to let or to sell, in the reign of Henry VIII. 

Jno. Bellows. 


(1. SiNT^^ENiCK.— I possess a fine water-colour 
dniwing, subject Malraesbury Abbey, &c., Essex, 
signed Cr. Slntxeniek. The period and style are 
those of Turner in h*B best manner^ and the finish 
and effect denote an artist of standing and import- 
ance. I have not been able to i\i\d a notice of 
him in any of the numerous dictionnries and other 
wnrks nn art which I have eansulted, and shall bo 
glad of any information as to his nationality and 
the eatimation in which his works are held. 

Geo. H. Baker, 

Robert Hobrsox, 1577.— Stow, in hi^i Survey 
(if London^ describing the monument.'^ of St. Al- 
plifige, Cripplei^ate, gives the following epitaph : — 

"Hire lyotb biirkd uuder thii atone the body of 
RobiTt HoiljiMiti. E«r|uirc, one of the AudUora <if the 
Q^icpTieV Mftjettief* Court of Eiccber|ucr : who died the 
2rt day of May, in the yeare of our Loni lfi77." 

Where can I obtain any infonnation about him ? 

TiJOMAS Bird. 

Tfik Rev. H. S. Cottos". — Can any one furnish 
me with a few biographical particiilar.s respecting 
this eminent angling- nook collector? I know this 
much about him, thjit he was a descendant of 
Izaak Walton's " most honoured friend," Cli. Cot- 
ton, of which I opine he was not a little proud ; 
that he wtis Ordinary of Newg.ite (a position, by 
the way, which one would think mu^t have been 
singularly uncongenial to a lover of " virtue and 
angling") ; and that his fine collection of angling 
books— one of the best of the day— were sold by 
imction by Mr. 8otheby on Dec. 20, 1838. A 
catjilogue of this sale, with the price?4 and pur- 
chtLsers' name^ tilled in, is lying before nie, and 1 
note that the :io6 lots only realized 174/. Uxs, 
Such a collection, brought to the hammer in the 
present day, would, I have little doubt, bring fuUy 



[5* 8. V. 

three times the amount ; uod, to prove this to be 
no mere random conjec-ture, I vdR select two lots^ 
and stAte what they went for at the time, and 
their auUsequent rise. Lot 199, a prewentation 
copy (**To my most worthy honored friend Mrs. 
Digbie^ to her presented from her roost humble 
serrtint laiiak Walton ") of the WoUoniamr. lUli- 
qum, 1651 — the inscription said to be ft>>oiit the 
finest specimen of the autojjraph of Walton ex- 
tant—bought hy the liite Mr. Pickering for 5/. 7*. 6rf. 
was resold at his sale for 30l Lot 183, also a 
presentation copy, to Jo. (.'halkhill (Hdf "N. & Q.," 
6*»» S. ili. 3G:)}, of the^^, purchased by Tite 
(Sir Wm.) for 5/. 5«., is now on sale at Messrs. 
Ellis & Whitens at 21 f. ; what they paid for it I do 
not know, I think Mr, Cotton had a nephew — 
Lynch Cotton : was he in any way remarkable I 
Cii. ELKiy Mathews. 
Codford St. Mary. 

'' There are elm"? anh elms."— This phrase, 
which occurs in Mr. Mortimer Collins's sensible 
n&fe on "Milton's F*»restry "' (p. 92), leads me to 
make a query. When and where did this sort of 
phrase come into use ( My impression h that it 
was first ventiljited in (he House of Commons not 
many years since ; and I have nn indisstinct re- 
collection of its occurrence in a speech (probably 
of Mr. Brijjht's or Mr. Lowe*^) on the lust Reform 
Bill. T am pretty sure itn colloquial use is con- 
fined to the last thret> or four years. For my part 
I scrupulously avoid it, as bein^ a dry lofiicul for- 
mula, like " some is not some." Its direct function 
is to assert that a chiss contains more than ont* 
individual ; but it is nsed to imply that the indi- 
viduals in it are not all alike. Jabsz. 

Athenseum Club. 

KiKux.^I read in the Histoire dts Dignilcz 
Honormrtf rf« Fran« ... par \e Sienr de 8. La- 
ziire, Historiojj^raphe (Paiis, Cardin Besongne, 
163G), p. 634 : — 

"Pent-on nUr que les Royaumes, Uucbest. Marquiflats, 
Corotei, tcrres et Beijfneuriea qui lont mnintenarit en 
e«fcte Mftiaoa [d*Autriclie]. n j mteni <mtr«e» [acj depui-i 
ravMioeincni et le trop bon mesiiftge do Kutlolphe par 
]« aeqocftfl et les cnnmjest^ do In lanco de chairp comme 
dit Rieux, un certain Vd-to Alemand." 

What is the md name of this Grerman poet, of 
which BieuT' undoubtedly is a corrupted iom\ and 
wliat is the text of the paiisajje alluded to, or where 
could I find it? Henri GAtyssEROif. 

Ajz Academy, 

The History of Pepys'b *' Diary."— In LS58 
the Rev. John Smithy of Baldock Rector?, Herts, 
who deciphered the famous Diarif, stated thnt he 
hivl prewired a hiatory of it, " which,"* said he, 
" may one day .«ec the liorhl jw a sequel to the 
CHTiositi^j< of LUnature and the CalimitUif of 
Attihorx.^' In whose possesBion is this manuscript 
to be found ? In the latter edition* of the Biar^j 

Lord Bmybrooke for some r» 
to Mr. Smith's connexion y 
in the 1848 edition that the hiht 
wa-s so well known, "the pref. 
reprinted." Joh> j 

l^tretford, Hanoheiter. 

"Not aoaikst, but hetond nEAsosr-^- 
won^la, which occur in an article in ih* 
number of the Coniemitorary ^^-rwjr.arf 
a fra^ent of the axiom» "Some things 
that are accordinfr to reason, some thatnr 
reason, and some that are contrary to 
Who wrote, and what is the precise f 
same axiom 1 Henry CAxrKi 

Reform Club. 

W. Parkinson. — Mary, the dan. •! 
Armstrong, the Royalist, married the 1 
Parkinson, of Ardee, co. Louth, and 
other children^ William Parkinson, who 
his apprcDticeship with Alderman Gedltfi 
|>ool, and embarked in oomraerce." Can 
aive me the names of William's wife 
dimts ? P. 

Cotnpton Basset, Calnc, Wilt». 

TiTUS Gates.— The late Mr. W. BUidtJ 

assert that Titua Gates once became a 
Day Baptist " minister or elder, and in 
city officiated aa pastor of the meeting 
Mill Yard, Goodman's Fields. Mr. Black 
fact was recorded in the ** church book 
he bud inspected. He was pallor of 
mcetinj/ bouse. I presume that the 
ncceasible, and can be seen by applicatii 
proper authorities. Docs the above 
figure in any memoir of Dates I 


STErtiEK Kemblk.— The following p 
extracted from White's IJiftorxj, ft<i 
Dirixtonj of Hampshire, 1S59. Is the 
mentioned anywhere else ?^ 

'* When Stephen Ketnhle wws mannircr of ?> 
TheiitTe, he performed Richard /// on a uoh-playj 
for the Bole gratlJi cation of a jolly tar, who 
guineas for hia treat, and Bailed next day for 


Re\'. Robekt Huxter in 1678 was 
n% "^ Minister of Liverpool " ; in the 
was presented to the Tricara^e of Gurstang, 
cashire, which he resigned in 1^79, Any 
information about him will be thankfully 

H. FisnwicK, FJ 

Carr Qtll, Rochdale. 

''Tinkers' News."— la GlonecAtershiM^ 
any piece of information 13 mentioned thft 
been beard or told before, it is cAlled " tilt 
new.^'" What is the origin of the oxpreaaionl 

W. £. AsiAJa. 




' ^ fR CfTT OF LoyDoy, 

.//j» of the Etght&mth 

1-44) is to l>e found 

notice of Elkaimh 

,...., ,.,.<-[, jind ruftccllaneouR 

** obtained the otiice of poet 

nnd with it n pension for 

ic to celebrate the annual 

f Majristrate/ Here follows 

-ore in the office^ dfitinrr 

- hen wa.H the offi«?c insti- 

bed. and where can u complete 

ienta be seen ? F. D. 


, Mfllthew, and Willinin) were 
nibe for umny years. The »ite 

_;«f Ecton, east a rmg of bells 
ledral in 1687. 

Blley, formtrly of Chacombe, settled 
xfordiihire, Jil>out the year 1730. 
Hd Hi'iir)' Bagley, of NorlhaniptoD, 
toyrc, of Kettering, caat bells as 

kn, of Peterborongh, cast bells from 
}m death in 1729. 
tioa about these founders and the 
ridrip^, &c., other than ii iriven by 
other writers on bells, will be verj- 
forming n collection of notes far 
be church bclk of Northtitnpton- 
TnoMAs NtiRTir. 

ii»TWulttm nee de pane unum S. 

lU monlctsb refectory motto come ? 
ire of it ? It is wanted for n «pecjid 
>rocure tueimy infonwition about it. 

C. W. Prick, 
use. Greftt Mdrern. 

I lioLLnifjHT Stones.— What nre 
texing around these renmins ? 

C. fl. P. 

, G. WiTURR : F. Qitarles.— 
best biographies or bio^frnphical 
)ove 1 Fe-«natus. 

-As there appears to be somedivi- 
to the manner in which the follow- 
aht to be oiiipbasized, will any of 
Inin the correct rcnderinj:, nnd the 
vhich he dates his information? — 

♦* Yf t f\.e wished 
en btd made her «ucli Ii man." 

OatHo, Act L fc. 3. 
W. H. Paob. 

The WoKiTfG Gravk PL.\?fT.— On any reader 
f?tve un expliination of this rnrTo«fl]ilant*dr«cribpd 
in the Family To)toip-irfiin-r (Lnmi\ou^J. B. Nichols), 
Tol. i. p. 17/j, as fallows ? — 

" In Woktnsr Ciinrchvjird rtotth r kind nf plant about 
tlio thickne*-* of a bulrui»h, vf'ith a t>p like nflmmien^y 
«hor>tii)(( up nearly to tlio Buifice of tbe curtb, iibove 
which it rtertT appeftrs, and whrn tbpcorp«i»iiuitecon- 
nume>l the pUnt dirs «wa.v. Thii cilt-ervafcldu \\m been 
ni&de in other chorcbjarda when the noil is lii^bt red 


Sbepberd*t Buf h. 

(5»»» S. iv. 388, 436.) 

Thougb not an Irish reftder of *' N. & Q.*' I 
can lEtive some information to D. F. regnrdinf^ the 
Archbifihopi of Tuam who were conne»ted with 
the tninslation of the New Testament iiilo Irish. 
Nehemiah Donelhin, n native nf the county of 
Galway, educated at the ITnirersity of Cambridge, 
and eoneecrated to the see of Tunm May 18, 
1595, is stated, in the writ of privy seal directing 
his appointment to the raetrop«ditical sep of hia 
native province, to be " very fit to conimimicjiite 
with the people in their native tongue, and » very 
meet Lnstrunient to retain and in!^tnict them in 
duty and reli^jion ; and that he ha<l also taken 
fireat pains in translating and puttinn; to the press 
the Communion Book and Nevir Testament in the 
Irish lang^nage, which herMajesty greatly approved 
of" (Rot. Paf.). He voluntarily resijined his see 
in 1609, and, dying !»oon afterwards, at Tuam, wa«j 
buried in his cathedwl. The dedication and pre-' 
fiice to the Irish New Testament, printed in lf)02,| 
are of his composition {Thr. Tribes of Hy-Mnntf, 
printed by the Archaeological Society of Ireland, 
p. 15T), and Cotton's FtuH SecUtia: Hibeniicifff 
iv. 13 ; V. 271), 

William Drtniel, or O'Donnell, D.B., a ntUive of 
Kilkenny, was one of the first scholars of Trinity 
C'olle^e, Dublin, rt<iii)inated in the charter of 
found(ttion March 3^1592,34 Etiziibeth, and after- 
wards elected a fellow of the same in lSf)3, beinc 
then Prelsendary of Ta-Sc<»ffin, in the ciithedral 
church of Kilkenny, his native dioceae of Ossoryj 
and he is described us " Lfticus in An^lia " {Krg, 
Vis\ which probably means that he wag theD, 
inni, study infj at Oxford or Camhriilge, aa was 
common in tho!?e days. He was appointed Trea- 
surer of St. Patrick'R Cathednil, Dublin, by patent 
of Au^. 2, UiOU ; and by the same instrument he 
wa* likewise created Archbit«hop of Tmim, being 
consecmted at St. PatrickV before the end of the 
same month. He held the treasurership in rornr 
fnaidam till hif* death, at Tuam, July 11, U52$, 
He completed the translation, from the Greek, of^ 

landj Sir Arthur Chichester. The New Testiiment ' 
Was aftcTwiirdu roprinled in 1(j81, af the t^xpense 
of the lion. Rub<?rt Boyle. Abi>. O'Donnell, who 
jLppeurs to have been a man of distingutubed 
niniinik't and abo a Hebrew scholar, was conpe- 
illMDtly only ont of the tranHhitjrjrs of the New 
Testament, though, aa the work was not previou5*ly 
ijrinled, it j^cnerally is considered to have been 
Ilia work al*tne. His predecessor, Abp. DancUan, 
mwni ftlxo receive a portion of the credit due for 
the vjd liable boon bestowed on their country men, 
the Dutive Irish, as well &b fche other two eccle- 
^bove mentioned,* with whom Daniel was 
in the work of tran&bition. A- S. A. 

If your correspondent, who dcHires inforumtion 
respecting the Archbishop of Tujuii whose name 
Is ttBsociated with the Irihh New Teatiuncnt, bus 
not in bJM poHRcssion the Rev, Kobert Kinjjfs 
J*Httur of the Ckhich UUtory of Irdaud^ he inay 
possiblv b(j pleuHed with the following; extract 
rom that work, which, ibough not exiictly con- 
taiuitii^ the iKiint to the elucidation of which bia 
Tiiitc WHS nddrcHsed, is alill very u»efid for any one 
rcquirin^j a cftnctHe acconnt of the translution of 
tln' kScriptures of the New Testament into the Irish 
lniij»ua;ie ; — 

"' Of the imlividudla hero mentionpd [»". *. of those who 

Vfcre * iDlcrcstiH^ tbemMlvea for the fpirituiil eriH^bten- 

cut ftiitl ir^struclloii of the Irish people through the 

itir^Jiuni of !h( if own kngiiRHi'J, thfl two ivbo were 

fdnnnoHt in the work were Nichoks Walnh, Chancellur^ 

Julin Iv- iiTDey, Trr-nijurcr, of Ht. Ptttrick'Sj Dublin, 

tw<i ntliiuhud (rionda, who hnd &lm formerly l)i;en fellow 

tmicntii in the Uuirersity of Cambridkre. These two 

luliviJujiU wore th« fint who intruduced, in 157!, Iri-h 

willfanT Daniel or OUf 
ftrchieri«co|>al dee, ani 
after llie acceesion of f 
moo Pnyer was alfto tr 
hook of Psalmi, nnd 
Dftoiel in 1608, the je% 
tion to the see of Tuftm 
PI>. 779-781. 

Ilaithangmn, co, Eildn 

TriE NlCENK Cre 
crimed coratnonly cal 
called so by seve 
"N. & Q./' h&9 be 
bnrdly deaeryes the 
"I belieye in the 
anathemas. These ai 
ill the early txirt wbi< 
niost impartjint in tl: 
oiVtas Tov frdrpos. 
tlnrd piut added at t 
but wua adopted at t 
some creed not frame 

The Filiofjm in tl 
tion Ity the Wcsterr 
wb:itever in the ortgii 
bMs been onutted in 1 
aniissioDSi less esseat 
in the earlier part. 

A3 it in quite cleaa 
Khull never come U 
points Jit isiiiie in ( 
meddled in it no fur 




liiBii«rn and nndissembled manner, 

» tk Lndjetnoniuns, prior to the atfAir 

7*ir BWttjxmdent affirma was the first 

jM^^tofUL-li a course. 

i*^"' ' re brieflj these. In the 

»>f the earthquake, the 

- ML,,, i.ikin;^ {idvanLiiie of ihe 

ion, revolted from their niii*)terK, 

r;i iriN. i.'JrHt them. But, heing 

y tJirew theiu^elves into 

►'. The LacedaQioDmna 

■tit, bein;j unable to dislcKige 

. lit aid from their various aUie«, 

Mikteoi the Atbenhma. But, tindintf 

tit no bett'Cr way than before, tiod 

iprciouM of the Athenincs,— as Thucy- 

(l C 102), 0€tVftl'T€«T<i!ll''Aiy>/iatoj'l' 

«al vtuirtpo—oitav'y — they aummtiHly 
nu, under the pretext that they had 

I of their help, 
grated tbose at home, that, ivs 
Ul iv. p. 71, Hvo. 1862), '' They im- 
I u foriiinl roaoUition to renoiitice 
reen thern-sclves and ihe Lacedjt* 
n-st the Persians. They did more : 
I for land enemies of LiK'^dainou 
aUj themselves." And as Ar«^os 
both ID Hellenic rank and in real 
reover, waa the sworn foe of 
red into a confederacy with that 
Id be in or about the year n.c. 
Mance in which the Atbeniajia 
act on the score of hatred." 
MiBaction come the buttle^) of .Egina 
A both of which the LacediemonianSj^ 
;ook A part. 

Ipthe battle fought near Tan;i^ra, in 
Hlo were the contending; parties, 
Bot the shadow of a doubt. In 
Kot« stiya : — 

^Oiiible for the Tinc<*djwmoniftn <irmy to 
MincRii without fi|^lititi^; fur tli« Atlip- 
if tilt M^rmrid. w»TO in poBsca^iori of tlit 
andt ©f Genhneia, tbe ro*d miirth mlon^r 
bile thfl AtheniBitt il«et, hj mei<tnB of the 
wan prepared to interoopt'them if they 
acroM tlie Kritasean Gulf, by which 
thty bad coMie out, Neiip Tanagru 
ik plitce between the tivo Knntei, 
njotji»iii« were tictorious," &c. 

thia we have the battle of lEno- 
in the offensive operations uf 
^eloponnesian sea-board. **Her 
iides/' Bjiys Grote, " displayed her 
ilinsr rotind Peloponnesus, and even 
>f btirniijq: the Laceda-nioniun porta 
d of Gythiiim." 

them altogether, we have just air 
fhich the Athenians ''* dared npfnhj 
Wmt of hatred " apiinst the Pelopon- 
Bftt all these were jnrexioug to the 

affair of the refugees from Ithome is patent from 
wba.t Grote further tells us : " It was about the time 
of the destruction of the Athenian army in £|rypt, 
and of the circumnavigation of PeloponncHUa by 
Toluiidep, that the internal war, ciirried on by tho 
Lacedaruonians njL,^ainst the Helots at Ithome, 
ended,'* Immediately upon which, and ua a con- 
sequence of it, the occurrence took place of which 
IKnelmknsis says, *'I am willinp; to prove that 
iy»S)/ points to this being the first time they dared 
ojtenhj to do ao." 

He further tells ua that, thoun^h ** the hatred 
had been long smouldering in the breasts of the 
Athenians, the cope^tone wnn not put on until the 
enemies of (ho 8partans had been housed at Nau- 
pactua " ; and that '* thl^ coincides with the con- 
text, and gives great force to it." 

t?o the matter stands. It wdl now be for the 
readers of ** N. & Q." to decide ftir them.selvea 
whether this was really llie "copestone put on," 
or whether there had nut been *' copestone^ " put 
on before ; and ako whether thu doe* " coincide 
with the context, and give ;jreat force to it." 

I. An to the first poBitiou, We have gix in- 
st^tncea in which the AthenitinB did show their 
hatred, and that in the most open and undisguised 
manner, towards the Laceda-moninns, namely :^ 
L By breaking with thoni, and enterinfj into alli- 
ance with their enemtea, the Argeians. 2. In the 
battle of ^Ejri nil* ^. In the battle of Megani, 4. 
In the battle of Tanatjra. 5. In the battle of 
cKnophyt4» ; and 6. In the burning of the two 
[>orts ofMetbone and Gy[hium,and other mruges 
committed by Tolmides on the PeloponDCsiim 

II, On the second position. If it be contended 
that ch. 103* 80 coincides with ch. lt)2, of the first 
Dook of Tbucydidei*, n» to form a continuous narra- 
tive, then I luust respectfully submit that it does 
not ; but that between the two there 19 an interval 
of not less than sir years, in which interval all 
tlinne stirrinjij events tmnppircd which hfue been 
;;iven in detail, and of which any sijujk luw, if I 
am not much mistaken, would he quite sufficient 
to prove my ca>?e, and to prove, in addition, that 
my iRinHlation do^>i eml'iody that which the ren- 
dering of DuNEf.TkfKNSIS fails tO do. 

It may be a« well to mention that the respective 
dates of the dis^m^sJ^al of the Athenian troops from 
Ithome, and of the subsequent receptif^m of the 
I^lessenian refugees, and their location in Nuupac- 
tiis, were b*c, 461 and b.c. 455. 

* The words ctxartii tTit^ in the beginning of the 
103rd cbApter, are cleitrly ludidAtive of Hotim ^uch nn 
iiitenal between wbiit ftillow^ ivnd wlut htid gan« 
b'tfiire, TbiJO'>dideii Wiia only doing what iw ciomniftB 
with autbDrii generally— recording hii event rather by 
wntiuipaiioB thun According to the proper oourae of 



fS'^S. V-F«lLi«,*ilL 

The ** iminediiite past/' in luy opinion, is the 
Bimplo Pqtiivalent of ji/st p<i.%t, ns opposed to what 
has paesed " long ngo." Edmu>'Ij Tew, M.A. 

Thk Order of the Camaldolites (5* S. r, 
68.) — I tmn-wiribe the nrtiele "Cdmaldules" of 
the Enqirhjft/tlicj publislied by Diderot and 
D'Alembert (Paris, 1751) :— 

*• Ordro do relijrieuix fondes (sic) par 8. Romyald en 
loot), on ftelon d'antrefl en V><jD [or rather, I think, m 
1012], duns rhorri11>le desort de Campovttildoli, dunii 
I'etBt de Florenc*?, sur le mont Apenniu, 

•* Leur TiiRle cut celle »le H. Benolt : par lears b tatutt, 
lean maJtons doin'tit titre eloign6ea au molnsdecinq 
lieues del grnndes TiUes. 

"Lea CamalduUt nc porter ent pas ce nom d4s les 
commencomeni : ju8^u*ii la fi» du onzicme eiecle, on tea 
appdlln RomiKxldtHf, du nom de leur fondiitear. On 
n'fcppeliott ttlor* Camatdutrif quo ceux qui liabitoient 
dan» lo destrt nn'rae de Ctxmaldoti ; et le P. Grftiidi 
o^ftcrve que le ni>iui de Ctimaldvlts ne l«ur vieni pas do 
ce que leur preniicrc niai^on a 6l6 £tahlie k Cnmpo-inal- 
doti, mil id do ce cjiie lu regie B'est matntenue dana ccttc 
niaison »ans d^pcn^rer,^ micnx que partttut aillGorg. II 
n'j a qu'une maison do Camalduiet en France, prea He 

" iAi congrifp^iian de» hermitoa de S. Romuald, on du 
mont de la Couronnc, est one tranche de celle de Carnal- 
dnli. uvec In quelle elle sunit en 153!2. Puitl Jtiatinien 
de Venice coniinen9a ion ftHbliBBement en 1520, etfonda 
le principal monaatcro diuia I'Apcanin, en un lieu 
nommc! U mont dt la Couronntf k dix miliea de F^rouse. 
Muroniui, JRaynft^dit Spondt.'* 

I may add that the first monks of St, Eomualdo 
Biiuply followed the usual rules of life adopted by 
the Anrborites. They were submitted to the rule 
of St. Uenoit only after their order had been 
recognized by Pope Alexander 111, {}07'2). In 
1212 a convent of Camaldolitea was founded by 
Father Laurent, under the patronage of St. Mi- 
chaelo, in a little isbind between Venice and Mil- 
rano. The order was reformed by Arabrosio da 
Portico, in the fiftteoth pen tiny. The principal 
oonvent« of Camaldolites, besides those mentioned 
in the EnnjchpMUj were the convents of Torino, 
Notre Biime de Capet (dioeeee of Vienne, France), 
and Notre Batne de lu ConsolatioD (diocege of 
Lyons). These establishmenta disappeared in the 
last century, but the order was kept up at Camal- 
doli, and the monks who went to the kingdom of 
Naplea (1822) eame from this phice. Before the 
French Revolution there were in France twelve 
convents of women connected with the order of 
the (Jamahlolites, but under the superintendence 
and in the obedience of the bishops. 

The works referred to at the end of the article 
of the Eiu'TjcIopidie are Annahs Ecdesituftici, by 
Earonius, continued by Bzovius and bv Raynaldus 
(Luce:t, 173fi-87, 38 vols, fo.) ; Epitomr. Annaiiwrn 
Erdtsia&fictyrnm Vnrdhialu Baronii^ by Henri de 
Spnde (Paris, lfil2» fo.) ; AnnaliMn Barmiii 
Continvafio, attributed to the enme Be Sponde 
/Paris, 1639, 2 vols, fo.). A good edition of the 

complete work* of the hitter has been publuhid 
Paris, 1G39, 6 vols. fo. Hekri GAUSSXiflS. 
Ayr Academy. 

F. C. V. will find an account of the oHtf 
Helyot's UUtory of ilu Monastic Orden, 11 
will also refer to Alban ButlerV Lht* of (hi Sm 
he will find, prefixed to the life of St. Romi 
Feb, 7, the titles of fccveral works giving «oj 
c^ount of this order. C J. 

A book of Camaldolian dissertations 
lished by Guido Grand?, who wn.*? n monk 
order, which will probably give F. C. V, th0J 
mation he requires as to the foundation, 
imd rules of the order. B. 

"OoNCERyiNo SwAiiRa w TcEi*A?n>" (5* 

Sfi,)_In 1747 waa pnbli»*bed at Frankfurt and 
jAgaWmo. volume, havinp on its title-pfipe, "H« 
Juhann Anderson, LV.D. und weiland 
Riirg'eTmeisteT*; der freyen Kayserl. Rei< 
Hambnr<,\ Nachrichten von Island, Gronlimd 
dor Siriisse Davis," &c,, a copy of which i 
before me. At p. 4<> of this work begins 
an account of the different kinds of owls 
those countrie'j, which it is unnecesa.nry fori 
quote. At p. IIG the author, dtidinji with 
animal kingdom fiysteraatically (according tOi 
lipbts), devotes a few lines (§ 71) to itd 
which be says are wantinit; there^ not from 
property of the soil, but (and here he showedl 
markable ftjresijrht), fmra the ffreat distance of F 
land from any continent, as well as from thei 
The general tone of the buri,'Dmaater'& book 
thought to reflect, injuriously on th^e 
possci^sionB of the Danif*h Crown, and accoi 
in 1752 Nieb Horrebow brought out n» a 
TilfoHndelige^ EfUrrdningo- om Island^ &c 
copy of thiB workj aW> in 1 Gmo.^ has only Ml 
graved title-piige, on which the author's 
does not appear, but it is appended to the^ 
cotton to the Kinrj (Frederick V.), and the ' 
indeed, ia well known to be Horrebow's. ] 
preface he says that his oliject is to set the 
right (" At derforc Publicum kunde blive 
sfret ) m to Anderson's luisstatements, andi 
infjly he goes over the same, article by 
('* hvorfore jeg folger samnie AriicHl'rils^, 
§ 41 he bestows nearly half a page, striving 
demolish Anderson's assertions, and concludci 
" For thifi reason there is not a wortl to wril 
Icelandic owls ; since non Eniis nnVft. «uiilt 
tiwes.'' (p, 155). With regard to § 71, he i 
that Anderson was right, but disputes hl.< 
as to the absence of snakes, particukrly 
matter of cold* 

Of Horrebow's book there is an English tiJir| 
lation, Th( Nnturnl Bislory of lcrl\nd^ h 
London, 1758, folio, hut by whom I do not Itflf 
I The text is a good deal condensed ; and heft it ■ 




llmt we h&TC (p. 61) the fiimons and lacooic 
"(.'hzip. xWL Conerrjiing owls. There are no owh 
if any kind ld the wbwle isknd" ; as well as (p. l»l) 
ihi» r,|itHlly diissic "Chap, Ixxii. Concerning 
mill J. No snakes of any kind are to be met with 
ihnmghout the whole iithind/' My story b now 
doWfOnless I add that I have a notion that thesis 
were first made popular in England by 
laction of one or the other of them in an 
RU e<trly number either of the Edinburgh, 
fly Revise, Alfred Kewton. 

CoUege^ Cambridge. 

required chapter — vijt., Ixxii. — of Keil 
tbour'a NaturcLl Hutorjf of Norway (London, 
folb) reJstes to Iceland, and is headed 
lOotooeming Snakes." The whole chapter ia as 

of tmy kind ar« to be met with through- 
Uhewlioleialand,''— P. 91. 

I this [a appended a foot-note — by the translator, 
•iippoae— in these words : — 
' Mr. Anderson iaya it is owing to the ezcefiaiTe cold 
U«t uo ftmkes &re found in Iceland^" 

£ric Pontoppidiin has a similar chapter in bis 
^ »nrk on Iceland (London, 1755, folio), second part, 
diip, it, ; — 

**0f Sn«kei and InsectB. — Tbii &rtTcle will be but Bbort, 

litr twn tvM*mB ; fir«t, becaate tbe cold northern port* 

, •» ItM fruitful of fcliem than the w&rroer countries, 

^ toW« the eitrlb and ftir are better ud&pted for the 

ftr-iliar contexture of the bodies of makes and inicct*/' 

'lescribeg several species of snakes. 

'^ chapter is rifjhtly cjuoted in Bos- 
' Johngoiiy 1811, voL ill- p. 3(^4. 
iitH-ey give* the futnuus chapter to Yon 
■Stfe De Qnincey's IVtjrki (Bhlck), vol. iv. 



LiBEB Vkritatis" (.j"» S. v. 68.)— Perhaps 
rxtrsict from a catalogue I have just received 
Mr. Downing of Birmingham may help to 
rer Y. S. M. :— 

'Cltude's Liber V'eritatii : a Colkction of 30fl Prints 

tifiginal designs by Olaade, with a I>eB€ri|>tLve 

c, the names of tho#e for whom tbey were 

I, and of their preseut posseiBors. 3 vob., folio, 

eriinton morf»cco extra, full gilt baoka, gilt leaven, 

leodld copy. 91 gjr.. published At SI/. lOjr., 1777 1S04. 

hji'1 lb fine feeliniT fur boaaty of form an J conii- 

le tcudemett of {tcrceptiou. Uia Berinl efifects are 

itmiled Hm was are tbe moit beautiful in old art. 

took iO much pains about this, feeling it was on^ 

ttfrta, tbftt I suppove no one can model a smull 

eUer than be.^— /fiw^n/' 

C. F. S. WaRM5, M,A. 

y\m foUowinf,' extract may prove useful to 
S» M. in j4Jioging the value of the copy he 

•* 14758. C1aad« d« Lorrain's Liber VflEritatis; or. a 
Collection of 300 Prints after his orig^al Designs;^ «»»• 
cuted bj S. Earlom in the Manner and Ta^te of ilM 
Drawings, 3 vola, fotlo, ohsinaJ proofs. ffujr«erb imprvt' 
ftioniit nusia super eatra, gilt edges, ^21, Bojdeti, 1777' 

The above la taken from Mr. Bernard Qtiori toby's 
Catalogue of Works on the Fine Aria, date«i 
April, 1873. The price may have gone up since 
that catalogue was issued, Y. S, M. will not fail 
to observe that 51 r. Quaritch's copy is de^cribwl as 
containing one Imndnd prinU more than the set of 
which he is desLroos to aaoertain the present tuoney 
eqnivjilent. Crkscknt. 


I give the following piioM from catalofjues : — 
Willis & Sotheran, 186^—8 rch,, folio, 1777, calf 
gilt, IL 7*. ; Lowndes's BihJw^rapkvrt* ManwUf 
a copy ftold by Sorheby in 182fi — 2 vols., 111. 6$, ; 
Quaritcha Catalogue, 1S76— 3(»<> prints, 3 Tola,, 
folio, oriijind proo'fa, raasia gilt, 1777- 1819, Z2l, 

a J. 

"Occamy" or "OcKAirr" (5«> S. iv. 46S) is, 
according to Nares^ a compound metal meant to 
imitate silver ; a corruption of the wonl '* alchemy." 
" Pilchards, which are but coimterfeta to herring, 
us, copi>or to gold, or ockamie to silver.*' Naras 
gives also the quotation from the Gucsrdianf and 
5nys that the word is not yet quite disused, 


Mn. Wtlie will^ on referring to Baile/s Die- 
tionarij, find "ockamy," and, In the Imperial^ 
'* nchyTuy." Tbe meaninfj ia "a base or mixed 
metal.'* In the lino he quotes he may take it to 
mean a ** pewter spoon," J. B, A, 

See ocmwiv, Hall i well's Ldctionary; **acnimie 
Rpunes," accomie^ alcomyc^ Jauiieson's i^t'ot. Did, ; 
alkamye (alcamyn), Prowptorinm. Parv.; *'a mixed 
metal supposed to be produced by alchrm\u bene© 
the name." Compare Milton, P. Lmi^ ii. 517 : — 

•• Then of their ics^iion endo'l they bid cry 
Witb trumpets' rcgn! sound the yreirt result. 
Toward the four winds four Bpeedy choriibiea 
Put to their mouths tho Roundibg aichan}/ 
By herald's voice explained.'* 

0. W. T. 

Is there any connexion between this word and 
" Occajniats," 'the nariie of a speculative sect that 
revived the tenets of Nominaliam, and was formed 
l>y William Occam (or Ockhiim), a disciple of Uuna 
ScoLus, a member uf tbe Fmnciscan Order in 
the fourteenth century ? H, S. 

(kJi^itnyt ochimtf, or ochyrny^ for it is variously 
spelt, was an alloy of copper, of a golden colour, 
of which Kpoona and other kitchen utensils were 
made. The word is a cornqjtion of alckcmy^ which 
is sometimes used for any mixed metal, inatead <iC 



[5'" 8. V. Feb 26.' 

tho process by which it is produced. So PMneaa 
Fletcher, f^uoted by Todd : — 

" Such w«re bis mrmsi foUe {;o1tl, tmti akhcmy." 
Purple Ittan^f, vii. 39- 

J. H. I. Oakley. 

Skinner says, " Mctnllura qiioddam niistuin, 
colore argenti fumuhim, aed Tili-sjiijinini, cor- 
riiptum u nostra alchymy." Chaeles Vivian. 


ScHlBA (5«» S. iv, 428)=2*3U', fl:iEie, winch 
GcBeniuB derive.^ from an unused root, 32st', Lq. 
Ariib. ghabba, to kindle. K. S. Charxock. 

JuDior Giturick. 

Nkkd FrRE (5»*» S. v. 48,)— 
" The ready page, with huirietl Imnd. 
Aw&k*d tb« u«ed fire'a alumh^ring brard." 

Latf f'f (hi Latt Mimlrd. 

" An ioiproper siud very oblique sense," R:iys Dr. 
Jiimicson. Ho myn "neidfyre"' is undoubtedly the 
eanie with (AleraJ not/tjr, iwtfcnr; "coactus igne 
fricando"; (tlerin.) tfmlrfijr, '' ii^nis sacrile;<ti3"; 
a Hre kindled on the eve tif Si, John by drawing ft 
rope to iind fro round a stake till it ratche;* tire. 
In tt council held 742, it was ordained that every 
bishop should take care that the people of Grod 
should not observe pat^an rites ; '" give illoa sacri- 
h};oH ijLfnea, quos uotfyreA vocant '* (Capitular. 
Kurloniann, c. 5). Lindenbrog says, notlftur^ ne- 
cessary lire ; SpeliMun, A.-S. ficod obst'qiiiiun, 
homage to the deities ; WachLerj not, cahiiuity ; 
but Jamieaon prefers A.-S. wyrf, fore*, W, G. 

The probable derivation of ** need *' is the Gcmiari 
notk; thus they say in German, **noth heuid," "noth 
feur, ' &c. H. A. 0. 

1. Spontaneous ignition. S. (BtUenden). 

2. The phosphoric li«ht of rotten wood. S.A.= 
Scotia AuatmJif*, 8outli of Scotland {Gl Com- 
ptf'ynt). W. E. Buckley. 

N. & Q.;' 3-1 S. ix. 175, 2(J3, 285. 354, 478, 


Cabinkt Councils (S*** S. v. 29.)— Lord Bacon, 
in his EamyH on Coundh, Civil and Morale under 
the head of '* CounseV after descrihiny the cvik 
which ariKp from consultinj^ Councillors, ajiys, "^'For 
ts'Iiich inconveniences, the doctrine of Italy, and 
the pmctice of Fnince, in some kings' times, hath 
introduced Cabinet Conncih ; a remedy worse than 
the disease." Me evidently spoke from pructical 
experience. " Edward Solly. 

I find no earlier instance of the use of this phrase 
ihjin that in Evelyn's Manoir^, vol. ii. p. 295 
<iLiSy) ; but "cabinet" (in the sense of *' closet") was 
used m an adjective, to express secrecy, l*y ThoujE^s 
Watson, in Iiis Goffir Anatomy of Mnu's Hmrt, 
p. 4, 1641) : — 

" The most secret cabinet-designs of raau." 

I have not found " cabinet " afl a substantive 
the scn^c of an Inner Privy Council, in any 
writer than Macaulay. Henrt H. GtSBS. 

J?t. Duo'Un's, Regcnt'a Park. 

See Haydn's Dictionary of Datn. 

Fredk. Ecxz. 

"The PaESENT State of LoNDO!r"(5"'S. t. 
75.)— Of this book, to which Ma. Pattebj 
refei-s, I Imve a copy complete, and certainly it 
very quaint and intereisting. The author of — 

'* The Preaent SUte of London : «r, An^lifl? Mi 
pfills, C'«mpreliernlirji; ft Full ftiid Succinct A 
the Ancient «iid Sludrrn 8tate thereof; ; 
Oovemnietit, Rijjshts, Libertiea, Charters, 1 1 
toraa, Priiriltd;ies, mid other Remarkable*," Ac, 
is Thomas DeLiune, 

" Printed by C. L. Uw John Hiirrtg, at the Harrow, 

in the PfJtilrry, imd Tliomajj , in Geori^e Yard, ia 

Lumbard Street." 

I shall feel *great pleasure in lending the 
ta Mel Patterso?? if he would like to inspect it 

D. F. Kennard. 
W^flt«r Hill, Linton, near Miiidfltont.', 

[See a note on tldi work in ou.r lost volume, p. 100, bf ] 
Dr. RimbalutJ 


7fi, 98, 137.) — Perhaps the foDowing extract fp 
a letter which appeared in the (Dublin) Ihi 
Express of Nov. 10, 1873, may be of interest 
this connexion :— 

" In my parish of Tera|ilBi>ort, diocese of KilmorB, I 
19 a chalice etilL in use with the ditte irvgcribed Ji.D. II 
It has ali^ ai it5 l^^ tlu' ^•"— k ':z-:*A- f^r '-ita. 
Hi^ma,' the contracted method of ^yntiiij; the 
Jeeua ; and it may bo Bupposfd that it was in 
quence of there beinj.? mme similarity, to a curioi 
»ierver^ between the capital Greek ' eta' atid our 
H, tliat the more modern anagram ' L H. 8.' majl 
ivnumitted. It t^ interc'Stiny; to n-'inember that Ihlil 
of our ancient Church of Iri'kirid vfH^ in use f<>ritfl 
purpose one year prcTion* to the IHet of Aag^barg, i 
four ycara preipinug to the Pope's exoonimutit> ntion 
Henry VIIl,— I am, Sir, F. A. SamiKi^ 

** Tenapleport Rectory, Bawnboy, co. Cavau, Ntun 

T. W, C, 

" Trs Ancient Mariner " (5*^ S. v, 89.' 
am happy to be able to furnish your correspn<! 
Mil Alkrkd Je^vbll with the cancelled Ptaaisiw] 
The Anci4-nt Mariner for which ho inquirei. ^r 
appears in the version of that wondrous po^*l 
published in Wordiiworihh Lyrical haUads, afl<*| 
is i\& follows : — 

** //i> hones were black with many a crack, 
AM black and biire I ween ; 
Jet black und bare, fqvo where with rust 
Of mi^aldy diimp<« and ehftrncl cru*t 
Tbey were patcb'd with purple and green. 

To me it aeeuis that the advantage of cant 
80 powerful a st^inza is far less decided than 
secured in the removal of the thirteenth stanM 



US printed as kte as the issue 

mt L<aveA (1817), and which may 

inttTestiDg to yoar correspondent, 

reader of " N. & Q.," as the one 

itertc up behind, 
through hia bones; 
bales of hiB ejet ftod the hole of hii 

and h&lf groans/' 

on to this r<»ply a query ? Why 
of Sibyliiin^ LtavtM\ w book in one 
rkwi at foot ** vol. il" ? Perbupg a 
deridge ouj^ht to know this without 
pity and forgive my irrnorance. 


'before roe the first print-ed copy of Thu 
Marin/T, which appeared in a volume of 
B<itla<h by Wordsworth, printed for .J. A 
, Grncechureh Streel, 1TD8 ; nmi I find 

rjzrt refftred fo, in Part IIL, which 
words '^ H€r lips are red," i& there aa 

I brfies ftre black with many a cr